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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
Source: All Headline News
URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 2303
Comments: 258

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds.

Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon.

The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed.

But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world.

Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo.

Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.

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#152. To: Willie Green (#144)

I am extremely reluctant to get involved in any type of fight or conflict.

we knew that. you expect others to do it for you. btw, for the fourth time, have you encouraged your sons and daughters to go fight for you in iraq? if not, why not?

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-14   0:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Flintlock (#149)

You don't know what it's like to win.

From what Willie has told us, Willie doesn't even know how to enter the fight. Forget about winning.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   0:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Willie Green (#144)

I'm actually a very gentle, peace-loving, mind-my-own business type of guy.

I knew otherwise a long time ago when talking, or trying to talk to you, on WOD threads, you remind me of my grandmother that was so freaked out by the idea of opiates her doctors had to lie to her to ger her to take her medicine.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-14   0:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: avian virus (#153)

Willie doesn't even know how to enter the fight.

The only fight Willie's ever been in, is to see who gets to be on the bottom of the pile at a San Francisco bathhouse.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-14   0:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Jethro Tull (#142)

The history of empire collapse is overexpansion. Today, our jackbooted thugs are in app. 120 nations.

The empire's overexpansion has nothing to do with where our military is stationed, ninny.
The overexpansion is the loss of productive infrastructure due to NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA, WTO, India, China, and yes, OPEC.

And Treason is the vile attitude you have toward the men and women who serve honorably in our military.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-14   0:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Flintlock (#149)

Who are you trying to kid?

obviously, only himself.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-14   0:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: robin (#1)

IT IS NOT CINDY WHO HAS A CREDIBILITY PROBLEM.

Got that right. We ALL know if this same woman was demonstrating up in NY outside of Clintons house, she'd be called an *AMERICAN HERO* and Clinton would be called a heartless coward from the highest moutain tops for not meeting with a grieving mother. The hypocrisy of this and everything else the right raises cain about these days makes me sick.

Of course it hurts, You're getting screwed by an elephant

justlurking  posted on  2005-08-14   0:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: christine (#157)

obviously, only himself.

Obviously bump


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-14   0:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Flintlock (#155)

The only fight Willie's ever been in, is to see who gets to be on the bottom of the pile at a San Francisco bathhouse.

He's forced to fight there because the rest of the boys see him as too much of a pansy sperm thermos to be the bottom queer in the bathouse.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   0:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Willie Green (#156)

And Treason is the vile attitude you have toward the men and women who serve honorably in our military.

How is killing people who are no threat to us serving honorably? You talk tough for a man who has never seen war up close. War is hell, and it is a special hell to people who have been told lies about their supposed enemy. America soldiers took an oath to defend the USA, not invade a third world nation that was a threat to nobody.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-14   0:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: avian virus (#160)

pansy sperm thermos

LOL!

I learned a new phrase tonight, thanks!~


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-14   0:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Willie Green, Jethro Tull (#156)

And Treason is the vile attitude you have toward the men and women who serve honorably in our military.

You equate random violence with traditional American values? What the fuck is wrong with you?

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-14   0:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Dakmar (#163)

What the fuck is wrong with you?

He's a pansy sperm thermos.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-14   0:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Jethro Tull (#151)

OK, right after I memorize the words to Louie Louie by The Kingsmen

Learn to use those oyster forks, troops.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-14   0:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: christine (#152)

we knew that. you expect others to do it for you.

No bimbo, I wouldn't entrust such responsiblities to a floozie like you.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-14   0:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Willie Green (#166)

a floozie like you.

Your mother's here? Cool.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-14   0:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Willie Green (#166)

got your nose

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-14   0:50:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Willie Green (#166)

No bimbo, I wouldn't entrust such responsiblities to a floozie like you.

Mighty tough talk for a scrotom licker who won't even defend his own posts.

Much less fight in a war.

Willie Greent, Howling Commando?

How about Willie Green, Howling Sperm Thermos.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   0:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: aristeides, Willie Green (#24)

So you think anyone who is unwilling to go to war against Communist China and all the other tyrannies in the world is a bimbo?

I have doubts you will get an answer to that question anytime soon... But, for kicks and giggles, let's remind Mr Green of your thought provoking question.

scooter  posted on  2005-08-14   0:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Willie Green (#166)

Willie, ya get the feeling you don't command a lot of respect around here anymore?

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   0:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Willie Green (#166)

Willie.. I'm JUST about done. KNOCK it off.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   0:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: All (#169)

Mighty tough talk for a scrotom licker who won't even defend his own posts.

Willie, excuse me. I intended to call you a "scrotum licker" not a "scrotom licker".

Didn't mean to insult you there.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   1:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Zipporah (#172)

The mark of a basic shit is that he has to be right. And right here we must make a diagnostic distinction between a hard-core virus-occupied shit and a plain ordinary no-good son of a Bitch.

There, don't we all feel better after reading the entire quote?

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-14   1:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Dakmar (#174)

Not sure LOL!

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   1:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: avian virus (#173)

Well I found where Willie is getting his talking points

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1462936/posts

Dear gawd these people are nauseating. Check out the names theyre calling Sheehan.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   1:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Zipporah (#176)

Is it true that the pro-Bush demonstrators in Crawford chanted "We don't care"? Boy, if they did, that's not going to look good.

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-14   1:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: aristeides (#177)

Apparently so. I believe it was the group with some RW radio personality.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   1:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Zipporah (#176)

When you see that sort of loony, over the top stuff you know she is really hitting home. Also, that crap really turns off the average person. Nothing helps Sheehan like a pack of ranting, hate filled wingnuts.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   1:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: avian virus (#179)

Nothing helps Sheehan like a pack of ranting, hate filled wingnuts.

Yep but they are so enraged and trying desparately to discredit her and anyone else who agrees with her that they dont realize this. So they look like asses and total jerks. Which they in fact are.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   1:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Zipporah (#180)

Yep but they are so enraged and trying desparately to discredit her and anyone else who agrees with her that they dont realize this. So they look like asses and total jerks. Which they in fact are.

I think their bubble is bursting. The Washington Post article I posted tonight is really significant. It's going to shift the paradigm on how the war is viewed. Basically they are saying it's an acknowledged failure. Bush can't even spin this on Sunday. I think the walls are starting to cave in and this is why you see the hysteria.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   1:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: christine, tom007, Flintlock (#121)

McNamara's List:

We misjudged then -- and we have since -- the geopolitical intentions of our adversaries . . . and we exaggerated the dangers to the United States of their actions.

We viewed the people and leaders of South Vietnam in terms of our own experience. . . . We totally misjudged the political forces within the country.

We underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to fight and die for their beliefs and values.

Our judgments of friend and foe alike reflected our profound ignorance of the history, culture, and politics of the people in the area, and the personalities and habits of their leaders.

We failed then -- and have since -- to recognize the limitations of modern, high-technology military equipment, forces and doctrine. . . . We failed as well to adapt our military tactics to the task of winning the hearts and minds of people from a totally different culture.

Interesting post, good find christine.

You'd think one of the most important things to study before going to any war would be the habits, culture and collective belief systems of the so called enemy. I didn't realize they failed to do that with Vietnam as well. This current bunch ruling us appear by their actions to think there are 2 types of people in this world; there are a few people like them, then there are all the rest of the people who are stupid and ignorant.

I can't believe those in charge of this war really did think that the Iraqi people would welcome us with open arms when they were invaded. I thought all along that was just a line of bull to feed to the brainwashed FOX-viewing American public.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-14   1:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Diana (#182)

This current bunch ruling us appear by their actions to think there are 2 types of people in this world; there are a few people like them, then there are all the rest of the people who are stupid and ignorant.

No, it's always been that way, just that Dubya is first generation raised on Elvis Beatles Don Ho / Brady Hawaiin adventure.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-14   1:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: All (#181)

I think their bubble is bursting.

Here is what I was talking about from the Sunday New York Times:

http://www.tos4truth.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=10212&Disp=1#C1

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   1:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Zipporah (#184)

Ping to the above, I messed up the post.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   1:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Willie Green, Jethro Tull (#139)

It'll be because the boob in the White House severely mismanaged our domestic economy.

by letting his buddies and partners in crime loot it.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-14   2:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Willie Green (#156)

And Treason is the vile attitude you have toward the men and women who serve honorably in our military

No, it’s contempt, disdain and profound embarrassment. For sure it isn’t respect. Anyone who knowingly volunteers for the military in our constitutional Republic, and then finds themselves a part of an invading army, has a duty to turn their weapons on those who gave the order. That would be courage.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   2:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Diana (#186)

Yep, or by invading nations to plunder their wealth for the benefit of big business. Let the Bush kids fight. Let Dick Cheney send his daughter. Let gutless Willie Green fire a shot at some raghead he feels threatned by.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   2:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: avian virus, Zipporah (#181)

The Washington Post article I posted tonight is really significant. It's going to shift the paradigm on how the war is viewed. Basically they are saying it's an acknowledged failure. Bush can't even spin this on Sunday. I think the walls are starting to cave in and this is why you see the hysteria.

And yet they now want to take on Iran! Makes no sense.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-14   2:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Willie Green (#166)

You classless piece of shit. I know you wouldn't have the courage to say that to her face.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   2:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Diana (#189)

To them, it does make sense. They want Israel surrounded by hand picked puppet governments, and the rights to the worlds largest oil supply. Military lives are expendable, and unfortunately from what I've seen of the military, they are far too eager to aid in this imperialism. I have no sympathy for Hessians.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   2:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: avian virus, Willie Green (#147)

Or do you drink beer and pound the keyboard while sending other people's kids to die?

I guess that's his idea of "pulling out all the stops" and being "involved." Wille, how are you "involved" with this war? Did you put a ribbon on your car? Or maybe a flag? Is that the extent of your "involvement" with this war? Not too much of a risk is it? Not near as much risk as a kid that has been sold a bill of lies about the enemy and was naive and trusting enough to believe it.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-14   3:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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