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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
Source: All Headline News
URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 5538
Comments: 258

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds.

Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon.

The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed.

But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world.

Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo.

Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.

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#1. To: Willie Green, All (#0)

the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo

Cindy admits to having met with the President. That he offered her a kiss on her cheek is hardly incriminating evidence of her credibility. She never said he did not. She said the President would not say Casey's name.

Now that the shock of her son's death has worn off, she has, like many Americans, had time to learn more about this war. About the lies and greed that led to it.

IT IS NOT CINDY WHO HAS A CREDIBILITY PROBLEM. And, Thank God, the polls show that Americans are beginning to understand who does.

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   14:17:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#1)

IT IS NOT CINDY WHO HAS A CREDIBILITY PROBLEM.

The delusional bimbo has forgotten that it was actually the Iraqi insurgents who murdered her son.
Her grief has obviously clouded and misdirected her anger, and she dishonors the sacrifice made by her son.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   14:32:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#4)

The delusional bimbo has forgotten that it was actually the Iraqi insurgents who murdered her son. Her grief has obviously clouded and misdirected her anger, and she dishonors the sacrifice made by her son.

You like to throw that word bimbo around, without respect to any accuracy.

Does this sound like a bimbo to you?

"WE ARE INSULTED when people like Bush say that America has to 'stay the course' in Iraq to 'honor our children's sacrifices.' Not one more drop of blood should be shed for the lies and deceptions."

- Cindy Sheehan, mother of Casey Sheehan, KIA 04/04/04

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   14:41:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#7)

Does this sound like a bimbo to you?

Yes, as a matter of fact, it does.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   14:43:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Willie Green (#8)

How does this sound like a bimbo?

"Not one more drop of blood should be shed for the lies and deceptions."

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   14:44:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#10)

How does this sound like a bimbo?
"Not one more drop of blood should be shed for the lies and deceptions."

Only a bimbo would believe that blood was shed for "lies and deceptions".

Bottom line: Saddam Hussein was an evil thug, tyrant, dictator and murderer who needed to be ousted from power. Period.

Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   14:56:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#15)

Only a bimbo would believe that blood was shed for "lies and deceptions".

Bottom line: Saddam Hussein was an evil thug, tyrant, dictator and murderer who needed to be ousted from power. Period.

Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.

Bimbos do not research what led to this war and reach the conclusion that it was for "lies and deceptions".

Bimbos go along with the popular belief that "the President and his cabinet know what's best for us".

I agree with you that Saddam Hussein was evil. But so are a great many other leaders of other nations. We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.

The sanctions against Iraq were also evil, many Iraqi children died because of them. Saddam was no Islamofacist who made women wear burkas. There are Christians co-existing with Muslims in Iraq. There was even a small Jewish population.

Now Iraq may end up with a civil war leading to an Islamic theocracy. This, assuming they survive our "liberating" them from themselves.

Makes no sense Willie. Unless the reasons our govt has given for invading Iraq are lies and deception.

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   15:05:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#18)

We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.

Why not?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   15:36:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Willie Green (#25)

Why not?

International Law, accepted custom and the American Contstitution.

And why do you think we are entitled to attack anyone we jolly well please?

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   15:45:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: avian virus (#27)

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   17:21:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Willie Green (#47)

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,

This is silly spin. If you read the section you posted you will find it gives the President the position of commander and chief of the armed forces.

I asked you to show me the part that permits the President to wage war for purposes other than the common defense. You didn't do this. You didn't do it because you can't do it .... and you know this. But you thought you'd try to fob another one off on us Freeper style.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   18:41:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: avian virus (#53)

I asked you to show me the part that permits the President to wage war for purposes other than the common defense. You didn't do this. You didn't do it because you can't do it ....

Fine, show me the part that forbids the commander-in-chief from taking military action.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   20:59:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Willie Green, avian virus, christine, Lady X, 1776, zipporah, rowdee, (#77)

You did read this article written by YOUR right Reverand Patrick J. Buchanan, did you Willie??

Go, Pat, Go!! ...isn't that what YOU say Dear Willie?

March 24, 2003 issue Copyright © 2003 The American Conservative

Whose War?

A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest. by Patrick J. Buchanan

http://www.amconmag.com/03_2 4_03/cover.html

Go, Pat, Go!!

This article reads like something Cindy Sheehan would have written (or, at least, agree with 100%).

Right Willie??

BTW and if given the chance, would you like to run over Cindy Sheehan with an IDF Catapiller bulldozer??

wbales  posted on  2005-08-13   21:35:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: wbales (#84)

This article reads like something Cindy Sheehan would have written (or, at least, agree with 100%).
Right Willie??

No. PJB has an accurate assessment of the neocon influence on the Administration's policies.
But the Bimbo goes over-the-top when she blames Dubya for the death of her son.
Her son was killed by the murderous Iraqi thugs called "insurgents".

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   21:51:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Willie Green (#89)

Her son was killed by the murderous Iraqi thugs called "insurgents".

A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest. PJB

No neoconservative clique ensnaring our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest = no Iraqi "insurgents" = Sheehan's son still alive.

Get it??

wbales  posted on  2005-08-13   22:02:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: wbales (#91)

No neoconservative clique ensnaring our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest = no Iraqi "insurgents" = Sheehan's son still alive.
Get it??

Yes, I get it.
I support our troops and their mission despite the neocon clique.
You, on the other hand, are willing to undermine our troops because of the neocon clique.
I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances.
Get it?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   23:28:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Willie Green (#109)

I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances.

Willie....I spend large parts of my day trying to undermine the troops. As you yourself admit, they're fighting an unconstitutional war. So, in effect, it's our patriotic duty to remove this spear tip of this American imperialism.

Guess what?

Our hard work is paying off. Silly cold warriors like yourself are a dying breed. No longer will your ilk have an easy time expanding the empire. The Iraqi bloody nose we are receiving might just be the best foreign policy rejection we're received since 'nam. Gotta love it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-13   23:43:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Jethro Tull (#122)

Our hard work is paying off. Silly cold warriors like yourself are a dying breed. No longer will your ilk have an easy time expanding the empire. The Iraqi bloody nose we are receiving might just be the best foreign policy rejection we're received since 'nam. Gotta love it.

Faulty analysis, Jethro.
You're patheticly attempting to relive a '60s paradigm.
Oh, the Empire will collapse, alright.
But it won't be because you've made an idiot out of yourself chanting "Make love, not war."
It'll be because the boob in the White House severely mismanaged our domestic economy.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-14   0:08:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Willie Green (#139)

Oh, the Empire will collapse, alright. But it won't be because you've made an idiot out of yourself chanting "Make love, not war." It'll be because the boob in the White House severely mismanaged our domestic economy.

Wrong. The history of empire collapse is overexpansion. Today, our jackbooted thugs are in app. 120 nations. All this, while our borders are wide open. This isn't 'mismanagement.' It's treason. Nice try, tho..

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   0:11:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Jethro Tull (#142)

The history of empire collapse is overexpansion. Today, our jackbooted thugs are in app. 120 nations.

The empire's overexpansion has nothing to do with where our military is stationed, ninny.
The overexpansion is the loss of productive infrastructure due to NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA, WTO, India, China, and yes, OPEC.

And Treason is the vile attitude you have toward the men and women who serve honorably in our military.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-14   0:30:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Willie Green (#156)

And Treason is the vile attitude you have toward the men and women who serve honorably in our military

No, it’s contempt, disdain and profound embarrassment. For sure it isn’t respect. Anyone who knowingly volunteers for the military in our constitutional Republic, and then finds themselves a part of an invading army, has a duty to turn their weapons on those who gave the order. That would be courage.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   2:47:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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