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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
Source: All Headline News
URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 2593
Comments: 258

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds.

Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon.

The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed.

But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world.

Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo.

Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.

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#218. To: Willie Green (#212)

We the People have been tricked into every war/foreign entanglement by the global elites. It is We the People (true America/American LOVING Patriots) who want to protect our sons and daughters from sacrificing their lives and limbs at the altar of the NWO.

BRING 'EM HOME!

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-14   10:44:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: Diana (#182)

You'd think one of the most important things to study before going to any war would be the habits, culture and collective belief systems of the so called enemy. I didn't realize they failed to do that with Vietnam as well.

It is mind boggling isn't it, Diana.

It demonstrates the terrific arrogence of the rulers of the once great nation. And look at the costs we all are paying and will pay for this hubris.

tom007  posted on  2005-08-14   10:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#215)

while you continue to vent your posterior on this forum.

Isn't that what cesspits are for?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-14   10:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Willie Green (#220)

Well Willie you've tried everything to get your account terminated and guess what, you've finally succeeded. Your goal obviously has not been to discuss or defend your position, your goal has been to be a disruptor and to insult the owners, the posters and this forum.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   11:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: Willie Green (#212)

Willie....are you still black?

robnoel  posted on  2005-08-14   11:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Zipporah (#221)

ou're goal obviously has not been to discuss or defend your position, your goal has been to be a disruptor and to insult the owners, the posters and this forum

My conclusion as well.

tom007  posted on  2005-08-14   11:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: robnoel (#222)

Willie....are you still black?

Willie reminds me of my black friend, Osborne Green.

Osborne needs a constant reminder that He’s Born Black, and will remain that way.

(does this joke translate in written form?) (g)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   12:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: Zipporah (#221)

Yep, Willie clearly got waxed in debate and chose to attack posters, you and your co-forum owner. His motive was obvious; now he can crawl back to the FR and claim censorship. SO many psychotics; so little time.

From Comfortably Numb - it applies to losers such as he....

"Hello.
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home"?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   12:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: Jethro Tull, All (#225)

The Bushbots are going crazy about Sheehan. They can do nothing but name calling and make bizarre illogical "arguments". Willie is not alone. Check over at LP or watch a little MSM.

While switching channels this morning, I caught the last 10 seconds of Fox News, where they called Cindy a kook. Kristol said the Democrats look bad over the war. Juan Williams said the Republicans do, and after being interrupted by Kristol, said clearly at the end "they still have to explain why we are there". Kristol's face showed he knew Juan scored a hit.

Some FReepy liar (woman) then said, "half of Cindy's family" disagrees with her.

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from The Huffington Post

The right-wing media is working overtime to discredit Iraq mom Cindy Sheehan, who is protesting outside President Bush’s ranch in Crawford, Tex.

On Thursday, Fred Barnes, executive editor of the Weekly Standard, called Sheehan a “crackpot” on Fox News.

John Podhoretz called her protest “political theater” National Review’s blog, The Corner.

This morning, the Drudge Report posted a banner headline, claiming “BUSH PROTESTING MOM CALLS FOR 'ISRAEL OUT OF PALESTINE'; VOWS NOT TO PAY TAXES.”

And conservative columnist and blogger Michelle Malkin put up an “unconfirmed report” that Sheehan’s husband, Patrick, had filed for a divorce.

**********************************

Malkin already called Cinday a "grief pimp". So, I guess that makes Malkin a "war pimp" and a "rumor pimpette", using her own choice of words.

This website claims "We watch FOX so you don't have to." here: has more on the smear machine against Cindy, like this:

Cindy Sheehan says Bill O'Reilly's Show is an "Obscenity to Humanity"

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-14   12:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: robin (#226)

Slugs one and all leaving their trail of slime behind them.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   13:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: Zipporah (#227)

Slugs one and all leaving their trail of slime behind them.

One good thing is that the average person will have an up close and in depth view of how the Republican slime machine works. The issues here arn't complex and the actions by Drudge, O'Reilly, FR and the rest are in plain view. There is no convoluted set of facts to hide in here. I think Bush's propaganda machine has already given itself a black eye and it will only get worse as they get more hysterical.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-14   13:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: avian virus (#228)

One good thing is that the average person will have an up close and in depth view of how the Republican slime machine works.

Yes, it does.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-14   13:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: robin (#226)

I heard Kissinger on the Wolf Blintz offering today. Talk about it's over. He referred to the occupation, and possible pull out, as a catastrophe. Despite their best effort, the neocon nation can't dress this pig up. It's a debacle.

Malkin is disgusting. I thought since she got immigration, she'd see the joke of waging war 6,000 miles away while at the same tile leaving the back door open. But I was wrong. She's been injected and is now a full blown human pod.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   15:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: Jethro Tull (#230)

Malkin is disgusting. I thought since she got immigration, she'd see the joke of waging war 6,000 miles away while at the same tile leaving the back door open. But I was wrong. She's been injected and is now a full blown human pod.

Maulkin is a plant IMO.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   15:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: Jethro Tull, All (#230)

It's starting to appear to me that the neo-pukes who are still supporting the disaster are starting to use the canard that the miltary is all-volunteer, therefore they're getting what they deserve. I think willy used it at least once somewhere in this thread.

If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for.

Esso  posted on  2005-08-14   15:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: avian virus (#228)

I think Bush's propaganda machine has already given itself a black eye and it will only get worse as they get more hysterical.

They've revealed what total trash they are. Doesnt get much lower than this.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   15:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: Zipporah (#231)

Maulkin is a plant IMO.

Evergreen or an annual? ;)

Are we but an organic computer influenced by our environment to desire one set of neuropeptides over another, equating into competition for self worth on a primitive level never realized by the shallow and self empowering.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-08-14   15:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: Zipporah, CAPPMADDNESS, Jethro Tull (#196)

I was quite surprised too to find out that he was like 53 I would've sworn he was like 80.

Sometimes I use odd expressions that I don't know where I picked them up from.

This is no defense of the poster who only had the guts to attack a woman on this forum in such a rude manner. Maybe he's jealous of her looks!

Diana  posted on  2005-08-14   16:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: tom007 (#219)

It demonstrates the terrific arrogence of the rulers of the once great nation. And look at the costs we all are paying and will pay for this hubris.

All of us will indeed suffer as a consequence, all Americans will be blamed for those actions, including those of us who do not go along with the policies of this administration.

I've already seen too many articles blaming ALL Americans for what is happening.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-14   17:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: Zipporah (#221)

Well Willie you've tried everything to get your account terminated and guess what, you've finally succeeded.

Dang. Now I have no reason to start my *Willie Green is an asshat* ping list. :(

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-14   17:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: robin (#226)

The Bushbots are going crazy about Sheehan. They can do nothing but name calling and make bizarre illogical "arguments". Willie is not alone. Check over at LP or watch a little MSM.

While switching channels this morning, I caught the last 10 seconds of Fox News, where they called Cindy a kook.

That poor woman.

Nevermind that she has lost her child and is grieving. She is taking that grief and trying to do something positive so that this does not happen to other parents. I admire her courage and determination, but it's alarming to see the rabid behavior of the bots, I guess concepts like empathy and sympathy are out these days; showing concern and compassion for others is considered a weakness by this bunch.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-14   17:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: Diana (#238)

showing concern and compassion for others is considered a weakness by this bunch

It's just foreign to them.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-14   17:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: Dude Lebowski (#237)

Drat! Sorry .. there'll be another come along.. Maybe just an asshat ping list? :P

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-14   18:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: Esso (#232)

It's starting to appear to me that the neo-pukes who are still supporting the disaster are starting to use the canard that the miltary is all-volunteer, therefore they're getting what they deserve.

Yep, Willie did use that ruse. I'm also hearing that the war went well, but the occupation wasn't planned correctly. This in an attempt to safeguard the Bush Doctrine for future preemptions. So, someone will have to be tossed overboard. Goodbye Rummy. He won't last the Fall...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   18:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: Jethro Tull (#241)

I'm also hearing that the war went well, but the occupation wasn't planned correctly. This in an attempt to safeguard the Bush Doctrine for future preemptions. So, someone will have to be tossed overboard. Goodbye Rummy. He won't last the Fall...

That will play well I think, and be their excuse for pulling out (hopefully soon).

Not sure it will be Rummy who is sacrificed. Actually, screwing up seems to warrant promotions with this gang.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-14   18:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: robin (#242)

Not sure it will be Rummy who is sacrificed. Actually, screwing up seems to warrant promotions with this gang.

True, witnes 911. But along those lines, being tossed overboard doesn't equate into homelessness. Whoever does drink the hemlock will be set for life.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-14   18:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: Zipporah (#204)

Im really curious you claim you're 53? Who but someone whose like 80 uses terms like bimbo and floozy ?? Tells me that she struck a nerve.. LOL

Shut up already you dumb broad!!!

(teasing of course, but ducking anyway!)

Diana  posted on  2005-08-15   2:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: Diana (#244)

(teasing of course, but ducking anyway!)

SPLAT!! Darn I missed!!

tom007  posted on  2005-08-15   2:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: Zipporah, zoroaster, christine, tom007, robin, Jethro Tull (#221)

Well Willie you've tried everything to get your account terminated and guess what, you've finally succeeded. Your goal obviously has not been to discuss or defend your position, your goal has been to be a disruptor and to insult the owners, the posters and this forum.

Read this interesting exchange between Willie and Lazmataz over at LP.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=105035&Disp=63#C57

Starting at post 56 or so through to 75.

It is interesting that the pro-war crowd identifies and/or associates any anti- war American (or anti Bush American) as LEFT wing, commie, racists, white supremacist and so forth). See Lazmataz's boasting of BAITING (Re: ALA Willie Green, here). And notice the federal media/MSM bashing of Sheehan.

What this does, however, is to totally neglect that there are legions of conservative, Constitutionalist (right leaning) Americans who detest Bush and this war. Such is, I surmise, the majority of posters at THIS forum.

I guess it is too much for the federal media/MSM propaganda machine and Bush administration/establishment lackeys to EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE our existance. And these people claim to be conservative and/or constitutionalist types!?! WTF.

In any case, Willie was appropriately banned as a disruptor. His posts were patently offensive to this internet community.

To my knowledge, he NEVER responded to the incongruency of his support for this war and his man's, Buchanan, concerns about global empire building in the name of America.

Over at LP, Willie DID divulge his belief that this war was and is about world strategic oil control.

"...

C'mon, robbie. You know darn well that the strategic interest is the oil. Even the United Nations acknowledged that Saddam's grab for Kuwait jeopardized the global economy. So we're NOT simply talking about oil for the United States ONLY. And IMHO, the only reason the corrupt globo-bureaucrats obstructed the coup de grace was so they could run the oil for food scam. Ol' Saddam sure set off a wild chain of events when he disrupted the status- quo. But there's no doubt that the blame rests squarely on him and him alone. I have no problems with that. Willie Green posted on 2005-08-14 14:44:51 ET Reply Trace

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=105127&Disp=31#C31

Observations about that:

1) Hussein (Iraq) was selling oil during this entire time and would have continued to do so.

2) How does he explain the massive INCREASE in oil/gas prices SUBSEQUENT to the war?? Hell and as far as gas prices go, we would have been much better off staying the hell away from Hussein and Iraq.

3) Would he then be in a position to attack Sheehan if Sheehan said "My son died for the Big World Oil Elite"??? Of course, hell no. But Willie the hypocrit would find a way.

4) Lastly, Willie (among MANY others) ignores the elephant in the living room: the undeniable and massive role of PNAC/JINSA/AEI/ADL/AIPAC/ISREAL in geting America into this war.

Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”

wbales  posted on  2005-08-15   9:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: wbales (#246)

4) Lastly, Willie (among MANY others) ignores the elephant in the living room: the undeniable and massive role of PNAC/JINSA/AEI/ADL/AIPAC/ISREAL in geting America into this war.

Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”

wbales posted on 2005-08-15 09:21:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

There is the kernal of the Iraq war. Now that Kristol and others manipulate the American public and gov. into this strategic disaster, see how they are blaming others for the war.

Really sickening.

Wbales, I assume you have been banned by Goldi-Pox??

tom007  posted on  2005-08-15   12:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: tom007 (#247)

Wbales, I assume you have been banned by Goldi-Pox??

Affirmative.

Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”

wbales  posted on  2005-08-15   13:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: Diana (#244)

Shut up already you dumb broad!!!

(teasing of course, but ducking anyway!)

HEY!! :P

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   13:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: wbales (#246)

Of course Willie is totally lying no surprise there. He didnt get booted because of the personal attacks on Chris or me. He got booted because he was a disruptor. Plain and simple. He came here to be an asshole and he's admitted it in that thread. Willie is a total fuckstick and what's the most comical is that he's proud of it. LOL

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   13:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: Zipporah, christine, zoroaster, Eoghan, tom007 (#250)

Of course, I remain beyond shocked at the treatment Cindy Sheehan is receiving from heartless and vile pro-war, pro-death, pro-Bush Ziomaniacs. The comments at FR and LP as well as the smears in the MSM/federal media are dispicable--atmospherically offensive.

Anyway, I was thinking of the RNC talking point/smear on Ms. Sheehan that she is (GASP!) using (as if that is somehow unacceptable anyway?!) the death of her son for political and or activism purposes.

Well, I would like to ask these brainwashed morons: What do they think of John Walsh? How about Marc Klaas? How about any parent who goes on a crusade following the death of a child and lobbies for a law or action to create circumstances or cause action wherein other children or other people may be helped abd/or saved in the future? How about the Amber Alert? What do these heartless war-mongering bastards think about Amber's parents? Are all of these parents--just like Cindy Sheehan--just self centered, pubicity hounds-- using thier children's death for personal vendettas or rank political purposes??

It seems the Cindy Sheehan logic of the Zionuts is equally applicable to the likes of John Walsh and Marc Klaas. The pro-war Zionuts probably would be a tad hostile should someone point this out to them. It, indeed, would be interesting.

Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”

wbales  posted on  2005-08-15   17:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: wbales, Zipporah, robin (#251)

Well, I would like to ask these brainwashed morons: What do they think of John Walsh? How about Marc Klaas? How about any parent who goes on a crusade following the death of a child and lobbies for a law or action to create circumstances or cause action wherein other children or other people may be helped abd/or saved in the future?

That's exactly how I see it.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-16   2:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: Willie Green, Christine (#201)

Note THIS, bimbo: That mud don't stick. Each and every one of our fine young men and women in the service are VOLUNTEERS! I support them 100% and am opposed to reinstating the military draft. So unless you want your daughter to register with the Selective Service on her 18th birthday, you can stick your whiney accusation where the sun don't shine.

Listen up buddy, because I'm only going to say this once:

Call me all the names you like. Call anyone else who posts here all the names you like. Won't bother me in the slightest. But when you start calling Christine names, you are lighting a very short fuse on me. She has proven to be the best forum moderator I've ever had the privilege to encounter. She actually believes in freedom of speech, and will allow people to get away with saying things here that no other forum I know of would ever tolerate, ever. Goodness knows, if I were moderating this forum, there would be several regular posters here who would be history, but I'm not, and that's actually a good thing. This forum is what it is because of the efforts of Christine, and if there is one forum moderator in the entire Western world who is genuinely worthy of respect, it is her. I strongly suggest you save your invective for other, more deserving targets.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-01-30   22:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: Elliott Jackalope, christine (#253)

She has proven to be the best forum moderator I've ever had the privilege to encounter. She actually believes in freedom of speech, and will allow people to get away with saying things here that no other forum I know of would ever tolerate, ever.

You left out Babe-A-Licious!

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-01-30   22:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: Elliott Jackalope (#253)

Listen up buddy, because I'm only going to say this once:

Call me all the names you like.

I didn't come here to revive a 3½ year old thread.
So as far as I'm concerned, you can call yourself names all you want.

Skinny Boochub  posted on  2009-01-30   22:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: Skinny Boochub, elliott jackalope, christine (#255)

I didn't come here to revive a 3½ year old thread. So as far as I'm concerned, you can call yourself names all you want.

Say what????? Why the laid back ears?

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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-30   22:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: IndieTX (#256)

((gets out the popcorn))

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-30   22:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: X-15 (#257)

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-30   22:25:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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