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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
Source: All Headline News
URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 2260
Comments: 258

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds.

Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon.

The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed.

But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world.

Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo.

Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.

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#39. To: RickyJ (#38)

because the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy

If she only knew this was a lie as well.

Do explain...

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-13   16:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Willie Green (#0)

May I ask what All Headline News is? I've never heard of it before.

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-13   16:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Dude Lebowski (#36)

ooooh, that is one of the best indictments i've ever read! bravo!

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   16:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Dude Lebowski (#39)

I think, like most of us here, Ricky doesn't believe it was Arab-Muslims (and most certainly not Iraqis) who were responsible for the 911 attack.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   16:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dude Lebowski (#39)

There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IMO 9/11 was not a breach in our security, it was planned event. If you care to learn more about the real truth of 9/11 than start with David Griffin's book "The New Pearl Harbor" available here for free.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   16:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Willie Green, robin (#25)

We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil. Why not?

Willie Green posted on 2005-08-13 15:36:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.

tom007  posted on  2005-08-13   16:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Willie Green (#25)

We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.

Why not?

I think we not only have a right to do it, we have a responsibility as God fearing people to do it. But, we must first define what evil is, and whether or not the people of that nation even want our help (i.e., if the people are not willing to help us help them, then they don't deserve or even really need our help). If they don't want our help, or are unwilling to help get rid of the "evil" leader then we have no obligation or reason to mess with them in any way, unless they attack us.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   16:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: RickyJ (#43)

There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IM

Hey Ricky, they found the passports in the debris of the WTC the next day!! Darn good detective work, wouldn't you say? ;)>

tom007  posted on  2005-08-13   16:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: avian virus (#27)

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   17:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: RickyJ, christine (#43)

There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IMO 9/11 was not a breach in our security, it was planned event.

Oh, okay I understand now. thx.

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-13   18:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: tom007, Willie Green (#44)

"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green

"We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil." - tom007

Expect "futility of voting third party" sermon any time now, tom.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-13   18:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Dakmar (#49)

"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green

I said that Dak. Willie asked why not.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   18:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: tom007 (#44)

We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.

Reply of the day winner here.

Thanks for focusing on the problem, not the personalities.

Lod  posted on  2005-08-13   18:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robin, Willie Green (#50)

My bad, sorry.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-13   18:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Willie Green (#47)

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,

This is silly spin. If you read the section you posted you will find it gives the President the position of commander and chief of the armed forces.

I asked you to show me the part that permits the President to wage war for purposes other than the common defense. You didn't do this. You didn't do it because you can't do it .... and you know this. But you thought you'd try to fob another one off on us Freeper style.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   18:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Dakmar, robin, tom007 (#49)

"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green

Maybe Willie needs to read the declaration of Independence? Just the first few paragraphs would suffice.

http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-13   18:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Zipporah (#54)

Zip, as I cleared it up with Dak, I wrote that as part of a post to Willie. His response was "Why not?"

tom0007's answer to start in D.C. is a really good idea.

We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   18:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: robin (#55)

ah okay.

There is something MAJORLY wrong with this country in a very sick state. When people who say support our troops then turn around and yell 'we don't care'?? Is this radio slug a provacteur trying to stir this so it comes to a head? Sure seems so doesnt it?

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-13   19:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: aristeides (#40)

Most interesting question, aristeides.

A peek around their site and you learn that somehow Florida and Texas are involved.

And finding that they are a news filtering organization----mercy, but that sort of reeks of Talon News, Gannon, et al., and the fellas down in Texas who'd sell their mother to a bordello so long as a republocrap would be made king president.

rowdee  posted on  2005-08-13   19:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Zipporah (#56)

They haven't a leg to stand on, it could not be more clear.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   19:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin (#58)

They haven't a leg to stand on, it could not be more clear.

Agreed but I just wonder if there isnt more to this. They'd like nothing better than to incite these people IMO.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-13   19:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Zipporah (#59)

In today's political environment I'm surprised the neocons don't just invite her to a fancy govt shindig then make fun of her afterward for now knowing which fork to use for the smoked salmon.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-13   19:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Dakmar (#60)

In today's political environment I'm surprised the neocons don't just invite her to a fancy govt shindig then make fun of her afterward for now knowing which fork to use for the smoked salmon.

LOL! You know the truth of the matter is that the neocons have taken over the Democrat party too.. they just arent as visible YET.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-13   19:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Zipporah (#59)

I just wonder if there isnt more to this. They'd like nothing better than to incite these people IMO.

I'm not so sure. What I can see them doing is trying to confuse, mixup and dilute her message, by having other activists with varying agenda vying for media time at her protest.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   19:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: robin (#62)

What I can see them doing is trying to confuse, mixup and dilute her message, by having other activists with varying agenda vying for media time at her protest.

Oh I agree that is typical but it wouldnt surprise me in the least if stirring the pot to get a physical confrontation started. Think of the illegal issue and the films, watching those I couldnt help but notice the non Mexican people among the illegals stirring them up. I think there are those who are pushing this stuff to the limits to bring about violence.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-13   19:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Zipporah (#63)

I'm amazed at the discipline and control the MMP have shown. And they have been and continue to be provoked.

The antiwar crowd may get a taste of this tactic, we'll see. If so, I hope they show as much restraint.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   19:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Dude Lebowski (#48)

ok, dude, explain your homepage. ;)

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   19:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: christine, Dude Lebowski (#65)

It's his ATM pin number, so he won't forget it.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   19:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: robin (#66)

and the skull??

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   19:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: christine (#67)

I missed the skull.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   19:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: christine, Dude Lebowski (#68)

Wow! It took a scroll right to see that!

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   19:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: robin (#69)

i know!

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   19:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: christine (#65)

ok, dude, explain your homepage. ;)

It was an image I found on google's image search. I forget what I was searching for now. But, as my main issue is finding the truth of human nature, I thought this was cool. Assuming this image isn't a fake (note the sinus passages and orbital socket) then WTF is a hominid (?) skull doing with fangs? The foremost front teeth look like they're for grinding. The fangs are most definitely for tearing. Animals have teeth designed for their diets. Horses have all flat teeth, cats have all sharp teeth. Humans have a combination as we eat everything, grains, vegetables & meat. So what else would have a combination?

I just thought this was weird and cause for reflection, so it's my homepage.

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-13   20:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Dude Lebowski (#71)

then WTF is a hominid (?) skull doing with fangs? The

I guess it wouldn't be a hominid because of the placement of the teeth, space between the nose and top of the mouth and the small cranial dome. Not sure what this is, but it trips me out.

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-13   20:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: rowdee (#57)

hey, girl, good to see you. i read a little blip earlier that Idaho had voted down the patriot act? have you heard about that?

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   20:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Dude Lebowski (#71)

then WTF is a hominid (?) skull doing with fangs?

hmmmm..i don't know. what's your hypothesis?

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   20:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine (#73)

Nah.......been trying to stay away from politics and idiots like the one that started this thread.

See.......only two posts in ages and 50% of them are thinking very poorly of certain types of posters, i.e., those with their heads up their anal orifices. At this rate, I'll have to take a permanent leave of absence to overcome the negative feelings these brain-dead, hypocritical pathetic slices of humanity bring out.

rowdee  posted on  2005-08-13   20:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: robin, Dakmar (#50)

I said that Dak. Willie asked why not.

Please robin, don't confuse Dak with such minor matters.
He's on a rant, and it doesn't really matter to him who actually said what.

Go Dak Go!!!

LOL!!!

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   20:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: avian virus (#53)

I asked you to show me the part that permits the President to wage war for purposes other than the common defense. You didn't do this. You didn't do it because you can't do it ....

Fine, show me the part that forbids the commander-in-chief from taking military action.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   20:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Willie Green (#76)

My g_wd you're online posting tonight? Why aren't you knitting your fearless leader an Israeli flag or something..

Lady X  posted on  2005-08-13   21:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Lady X, every pissed-off American here, (#78)

Do listen to the words from so long ago.

Sky Pilot

Lod  posted on  2005-08-13   21:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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