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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
Source: All Headline News
URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 2831
Comments: 258

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds.

Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon.

The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed.

But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world.

Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo.

Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.

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#14. To: Willie Green, every pissed-off American here (#5)

Yeah, you all should've listened to me back then, too.

It really wouldn't have made any difference - whoever now goes to DC is so bought and paid for, so compromised, so "black-mailable," that it no longer matters. Add in the magic black box voting machines with zero accountability, and 100% programability - why waste the time or make the effort to vote at all?

Lod  posted on  2005-08-13   14:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#10)

How does this sound like a bimbo?
"Not one more drop of blood should be shed for the lies and deceptions."

Only a bimbo would believe that blood was shed for "lies and deceptions".

Bottom line: Saddam Hussein was an evil thug, tyrant, dictator and murderer who needed to be ousted from power. Period.

Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   14:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#4)

Her grief has obviously clouded and misdirected her anger, and she dishonors the sacrifice made by her son.

Sheehan has enough guts to go stand up for what she believes in.

Unlike you. A cowardly, loud mouthed chickenshit sitting on his fat ass, sucking on a beer and tapping on a keyboard.

Willie, why don't you come back when you grow some balls ..... BIMBO.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   14:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#15)

Bottom line: Saddam Hussein was an evil thug, tyrant, dictator and murderer who needed to be ousted from power. Period

You never bother to explain the "needed" part of this do you. It's because you can't.

Saddam was successfully contained for ten years before the war and Bush had to interrupt the inspections before they proved Saddam was powerless.

Where does this "needed to be removed" crap come up?

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   15:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#15)

Only a bimbo would believe that blood was shed for "lies and deceptions".

Bottom line: Saddam Hussein was an evil thug, tyrant, dictator and murderer who needed to be ousted from power. Period.

Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.

Bimbos do not research what led to this war and reach the conclusion that it was for "lies and deceptions".

Bimbos go along with the popular belief that "the President and his cabinet know what's best for us".

I agree with you that Saddam Hussein was evil. But so are a great many other leaders of other nations. We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.

The sanctions against Iraq were also evil, many Iraqi children died because of them. Saddam was no Islamofacist who made women wear burkas. There are Christians co-existing with Muslims in Iraq. There was even a small Jewish population.

Now Iraq may end up with a civil war leading to an Islamic theocracy. This, assuming they survive our "liberating" them from themselves.

Makes no sense Willie. Unless the reasons our govt has given for invading Iraq are lies and deception.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   15:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Willie Green (#0)

Do you mean her son Casey is still alive?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-08-13   15:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Willie Green (#15)

Has the heroic warrior, who evaded Viet Nam and now ducks service in Iraq, returned for more ass whomp? :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-13   15:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

Has the heroic warrior, who evaded Viet Nam and now ducks service in Iraq...

But it's not too late! He can form up an internationalist brigade like the Russians did in Yogoslavia 1991 and go over to Iraq and kick some rear end. No age restriction on self employed soldiers of fortune.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2005-08-13   15:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#9)

What happened Willie? You were far more accurate then, than now.
My children are still laughing at me for voting for Smirk the first time around.

I don't know why it takes so long for you to finally "get it", robin.
Heck, I'd guess that, five years from now, your kids will probably be laughing at you for having supported this Sheehan bimbo too.

Don't you ever ask them why,
if they told you, you will cry,
So just look at them and sigh
and know they love you.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   15:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Willie Green (#22)

I do "get it" now Willie. This war is a crime. Look for yourself at the growing mounds of evidence.

My children already support Cindy Sheehan. They were ahead of me in 2000, but I finally caught up with them.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   15:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Willie Green (#15)

Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.

So you think anyone who is unwilling to go to war against Communist China and all the other tyrannies in the world is a bimbo?

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-13   15:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#18)

We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.

Why not?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   15:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)

But it's not too late! He can form up an internationalist brigade like the Russians did in Yogoslavia 1991 and go over to Iraq and kick some rear end.

From what I understand, Willie can just go down and join the regular army. He doesn't need to do anything creative. He can just go down and sign up like any 19 year old. He can do it today. The only thing that would keep him out would be an utter lack of skills, i.e., Willie couldn't get in if he went through his entire 53 years without picking up any viable skills at all.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   15:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Willie Green (#25)

Why not?

International Law, accepted custom and the American Contstitution.

And why do you think we are entitled to attack anyone we jolly well please?

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   15:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Willie Green (#4)

The delusional bimbo has forgotten that it was actually the Iraqi insurgents who murdered her son. Her grief has obviously clouded and misdirected her anger, and she dishonors the sacrifice made by her son.

Yes they murdered her son, but it's no different than what you or I would do if a foreign army invaded our nation.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   15:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Willie Green (#0)

Willie, why don't you call the people here American Haters and anti-semites?

Isn't that what cowardly wingnuts do when confronted with the facts?

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   15:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Willie Green (#15)

Only a bimbo would believe that blood was shed for "lies and deceptions".

I believe it, as many Americans do now. I can assure you, I am not a bimbo.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   15:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: RickyJ (#28)

Yes they murdered her son

They killed him. It's not at all clear to me that it was murder.

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-13   15:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Willie Green (#15)

Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.

She is standing up to Bush, at least it appears she is standing up to Bush. I would say Bush is just as or more evil than Saddam. Did you laugh shortly after hearing about the attack on America like Bush did?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   15:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Willie Green (#15)

where and when have YOU "stood up against such evil in the world?" oh, that's right. you haven't. you expect everyone else to do that for you. btw, you've not answered this question. for the third time, have you exhorted your sons and daughters to do it for you?

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   16:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: aristeides (#31)

They killed him. It's not at all clear to me that it was murder.

I didn't realize there was a difference.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   16:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: RickyJ (#34)

Murder is killing that is deliberate (unlike manslaughter) and illegal (unlike such legal forms of killing as self-defense, execution, and killing in war).

There are those who say the Hebrew of "Thou shalt not kill" should in fact be translated "Thou shalt not murder."

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-13   16:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Willie Green (#15)

Bottom line: Saddam Hussein was an evil thug, tyrant, dictator and murderer who needed to be ousted from power. Period.

Listen, you greasy old trouser-sniffing pissant. We have no business traipsing across the world forcing empire on other countries. It's not our business if they have evil dictators or retired Vaudevillians leading their country. THEY POSED NO THREAT TO OUR NATION. Neither did the NVA, neither did North Korea, neither did Belgrade, hell neither did Germany. But shitheels like you with exactly zero minutes of actual trigger time clap like trained seals whenever we invent a pretext to put American kids in the line of fire and sink American wealth into a fucking rabbit hole.

How many different justifications did we have for aggression against Iraq? I count 3. And you bought them all hook-line and sinker, even when the excuse-du-jour changed to something different. That makes you a tool.

Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.

Your mother is a bimbo. Sheehan lost a dear family member. You don't understand this since you're probably an ancient male-spinster who divides his lonely days between staring out the window, yelling at neighborhood kids and shilling for an unjust war of aggression on the internet. I bet your cat doesn't even like you.

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-13   16:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: avian virus, Willie Green (#29)

Media Begins To Take Notice Mother's message eventually sinks in

Yep, Willie Greensheild's 4um Opus.

"Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by George [W.] Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, because the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse."

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-13   16:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eoghan (#37)

because the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy

If she only knew this was a lie as well.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   16:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: RickyJ (#38)

because the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy

If she only knew this was a lie as well.

Do explain...

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-13   16:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Willie Green (#0)

May I ask what All Headline News is? I've never heard of it before.

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-13   16:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Dude Lebowski (#36)

ooooh, that is one of the best indictments i've ever read! bravo!

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   16:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Dude Lebowski (#39)

I think, like most of us here, Ricky doesn't believe it was Arab-Muslims (and most certainly not Iraqis) who were responsible for the 911 attack.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-13   16:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dude Lebowski (#39)

There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IMO 9/11 was not a breach in our security, it was planned event. If you care to learn more about the real truth of 9/11 than start with David Griffin's book "The New Pearl Harbor" available here for free.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   16:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Willie Green, robin (#25)

We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil. Why not?

Willie Green posted on 2005-08-13 15:36:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.

tom007  posted on  2005-08-13   16:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Willie Green (#25)

We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.

Why not?

I think we not only have a right to do it, we have a responsibility as God fearing people to do it. But, we must first define what evil is, and whether or not the people of that nation even want our help (i.e., if the people are not willing to help us help them, then they don't deserve or even really need our help). If they don't want our help, or are unwilling to help get rid of the "evil" leader then we have no obligation or reason to mess with them in any way, unless they attack us.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-13   16:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: RickyJ (#43)

There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IM

Hey Ricky, they found the passports in the debris of the WTC the next day!! Darn good detective work, wouldn't you say? ;)>

tom007  posted on  2005-08-13   16:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: avian virus (#27)

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-13   17:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: RickyJ, christine (#43)

There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IMO 9/11 was not a breach in our security, it was planned event.

Oh, okay I understand now. thx.

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-13   18:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: tom007, Willie Green (#44)

"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green

"We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil." - tom007

Expect "futility of voting third party" sermon any time now, tom.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-13   18:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Dakmar (#49)

"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green

I said that Dak. Willie asked why not.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-13   18:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: tom007 (#44)

We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.

Reply of the day winner here.

Thanks for focusing on the problem, not the personalities.

Lod  posted on  2005-08-13   18:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robin, Willie Green (#50)

My bad, sorry.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-13   18:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Willie Green (#47)

Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?

Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,

This is silly spin. If you read the section you posted you will find it gives the President the position of commander and chief of the armed forces.

I asked you to show me the part that permits the President to wage war for purposes other than the common defense. You didn't do this. You didn't do it because you can't do it .... and you know this. But you thought you'd try to fob another one off on us Freeper style.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-13   18:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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