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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
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All Headline News
URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 2817
Comments: 258
For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use. Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds. Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon. The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed. But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world. Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo. Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.
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#24. To: Willie Green (#15)
So you think anyone who is unwilling to go to war against Communist China and all the other tyrannies in the world is a bimbo?
Why not?
From what I understand, Willie can just go down and join the regular army. He doesn't need to do anything creative. He can just go down and sign up like any 19 year old. He can do it today. The only thing that would keep him out would be an utter lack of skills, i.e., Willie couldn't get in if he went through his entire 53 years without picking up any viable skills at all.
International Law, accepted custom and the American Contstitution. And why do you think we are entitled to attack anyone we jolly well please? Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?
Yes they murdered her son, but it's no different than what you or I would do if a foreign army invaded our nation.
God is always good!
Willie, why don't you call the people here American Haters and anti-semites? Isn't that what cowardly wingnuts do when confronted with the facts?
I believe it, as many Americans do now. I can assure you, I am not a bimbo.
God is always good!
They killed him. It's not at all clear to me that it was murder.
She is standing up to Bush, at least it appears she is standing up to Bush. I would say Bush is just as or more evil than Saddam. Did you laugh shortly after hearing about the attack on America like Bush did?
God is always good!
where and when have YOU "stood up against such evil in the world?" oh, that's right. you haven't. you expect everyone else to do that for you. btw, you've not answered this question. for the third time, have you exhorted your sons and daughters to do it for you?
I didn't realize there was a difference.
God is always good!
Murder is killing that is deliberate (unlike manslaughter) and illegal (unlike such legal forms of killing as self-defense, execution, and killing in war). There are those who say the Hebrew of "Thou shalt not kill" should in fact be translated "Thou shalt not murder."
Bottom line: Saddam Hussein was an evil thug, tyrant, dictator and murderer who needed to be ousted from power. Period. Listen, you greasy old trouser-sniffing pissant. We have no business traipsing across the world forcing empire on other countries. It's not our business if they have evil dictators or retired Vaudevillians leading their country. THEY POSED NO THREAT TO OUR NATION. Neither did the NVA, neither did North Korea, neither did Belgrade, hell neither did Germany. But shitheels like you with exactly zero minutes of actual trigger time clap like trained seals whenever we invent a pretext to put American kids in the line of fire and sink American wealth into a fucking rabbit hole. How many different justifications did we have for aggression against Iraq? I count 3. And you bought them all hook-line and sinker, even when the excuse-du-jour changed to something different. That makes you a tool. Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world. Your mother is a bimbo. Sheehan lost a dear family member. You don't understand this since you're probably an ancient male-spinster who divides his lonely days between staring out the window, yelling at neighborhood kids and shilling for an unjust war of aggression on the internet. I bet your cat doesn't even like you.
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Yep, Willie Greensheild's 4um Opus. "Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by George [W.] Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, because the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse."
If she only knew this was a lie as well.
God is always good!
If she only knew this was a lie as well. Do explain...
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May I ask what All Headline News is? I've never heard of it before.
ooooh, that is one of the best indictments i've ever read! bravo!
I think, like most of us here, Ricky doesn't believe it was Arab-Muslims (and most certainly not Iraqis) who were responsible for the 911 attack.
There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IMO 9/11 was not a breach in our security, it was planned event. If you care to learn more about the real truth of 9/11 than start with David Griffin's book "The New Pearl Harbor" available here for free.
God is always good!
Willie Green posted on 2005-08-13 15:36:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.
Why not? I think we not only have a right to do it, we have a responsibility as God fearing people to do it. But, we must first define what evil is, and whether or not the people of that nation even want our help (i.e., if the people are not willing to help us help them, then they don't deserve or even really need our help). If they don't want our help, or are unwilling to help get rid of the "evil" leader then we have no obligation or reason to mess with them in any way, unless they attack us.
God is always good!
Hey Ricky, they found the passports in the debris of the WTC the next day!! Darn good detective work, wouldn't you say? ;)>
Oh, okay I understand now. thx.
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"We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil." - tom007 Expect "futility of voting third party" sermon any time now, tom.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
I said that Dak. Willie asked why not.
Reply of the day winner here. Thanks for focusing on the problem, not the personalities.
My bad, sorry.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, This is silly spin. If you read the section you posted you will find it gives the President the position of commander and chief of the armed forces. I asked you to show me the part that permits the President to wage war for purposes other than the common defense. You didn't do this. You didn't do it because you can't do it .... and you know this. But you thought you'd try to fob another one off on us Freeper style.
Maybe Willie needs to read the declaration of Independence? Just the first few paragraphs would suffice. Zip, as I cleared it up with Dak, I wrote that as part of a post to Willie. His response was "Why not?" tom0007's answer to start in D.C. is a really good idea. We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.
ah okay. There is something MAJORLY wrong with this country in a very sick state. When people who say support our troops then turn around and yell 'we don't care'?? Is this radio slug a provacteur trying to stir this so it comes to a head? Sure seems so doesnt it?
Most interesting question, aristeides. A peek around their site and you learn that somehow Florida and Texas are involved. And finding that they are a news filtering organization----mercy, but that sort of reeks of Talon News, Gannon, et al., and the fellas down in Texas who'd sell their mother to a bordello so long as a republocrap would be made
They haven't a leg to stand on, it could not be more clear.
Agreed but I just wonder if there isnt more to this. They'd like nothing better than to incite these people IMO.
In today's political environment I'm surprised the neocons don't just invite her to a fancy govt shindig then make fun of her afterward for now knowing which fork to use for the smoked salmon.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
LOL! You know the truth of the matter is that the neocons have taken over the Democrat party too.. they just arent as visible YET.
I'm not so sure. What I can see them doing is trying to confuse, mixup and dilute her message, by having other activists with varying agenda vying for media time at her protest.
Oh I agree that is typical but it wouldnt surprise me in the least if stirring the pot to get a physical confrontation started. Think of the illegal issue and the films, watching those I couldnt help but notice the non Mexican people among the illegals stirring them up. I think there are those who are pushing this stuff to the limits to bring about violence.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestCindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.
#25. To: robin (#18)
We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.
#26. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#21)
But it's not too late! He can form up an internationalist brigade like the Russians did in Yogoslavia 1991 and go over to Iraq and kick some rear end.
#27. To: Willie Green (#25)
Why not?
#28. To: Willie Green (#4)
The delusional bimbo has forgotten that it was actually the Iraqi insurgents who murdered her son. Her grief has obviously clouded and misdirected her anger, and she dishonors the sacrifice made by her son.
#29. To: Willie Green (#0)
#30. To: Willie Green (#15)
Only a bimbo would believe that blood was shed for "lies and deceptions".
#31. To: RickyJ (#28)
Yes they murdered her son
#32. To: Willie Green (#15)
Cindy Sheehan is a bimbo who is unwilling to stand-up against such evil in the world.
#33. To: Willie Green (#15)
#34. To: aristeides (#31)
They killed him. It's not at all clear to me that it was murder.
#35. To: RickyJ (#34)
#36. To: Willie Green (#15)
#37. To: avian virus, Willie Green (#29)
Media Begins To Take Notice Mother's message eventually sinks in
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#38. To: Eoghan (#37)
because the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy
#39. To: RickyJ (#38)
because the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy
#40. To: Willie Green (#0)
#41. To: Dude Lebowski (#36)
#42. To: Dude Lebowski (#39)
#43. To: Dude Lebowski (#39)
#44. To: Willie Green, robin (#25)
We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil. Why not?
#45. To: Willie Green (#25)
We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil.
#46. To: RickyJ (#43)
There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IM
#47. To: avian virus (#27)
Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?
Article II. Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,
#48. To: RickyJ, christine (#43)
There is no proof, other than our government saying so, that any Arab-Muslim attacked us on 9/11. IMO 9/11 was not a breach in our security, it was planned event.
#49. To: tom007, Willie Green (#44)
"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green
#50. To: Dakmar (#49)
"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#51. To: tom007 (#44)
We need to start at home with the entire DC cancer that Ike did his best to warn us about. Now that is evil.
#52. To: robin, Willie Green (#50)
#53. To: Willie Green (#47)
Can you point to the section of the Constitution that gives the President the right to wage an offensive war? One not waged in defense of the nation?
#54. To: Dakmar, robin, tom007 (#49)
"We have no right to oust from power every leader we find evil." - Willie Green
#55. To: Zipporah (#54)
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#56. To: robin (#55)
#57. To: aristeides (#40)
king president.
#58. To: Zipporah (#56)
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#59. To: robin (#58)
They haven't a leg to stand on, it could not be more clear.
#60. To: Zipporah (#59)
#61. To: Dakmar (#60)
In today's political environment I'm surprised the neocons don't just invite her to a fancy govt shindig then make fun of her afterward for now knowing which fork to use for the smoked salmon.
#62. To: Zipporah (#59)
I just wonder if there isnt more to this. They'd like nothing better than to incite these people IMO.
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#63. To: robin (#62)
What I can see them doing is trying to confuse, mixup and dilute her message, by having other activists with varying agenda vying for media time at her protest.
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