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Title: Schwarzenegger: Don't blame state budget deficit on illegal immigrants
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URL Source: http://www.sacbee.com/capitolandcalifornia/story/1923957.html
Published: Jun 17, 2009
Author: Kevin Yamamura
Post Date: 2009-06-17 09:21:10 by Disgusted
Keywords: None
Views: 795
Comments: 34

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday disputed claims that illegal immigrants caused California's $24.3 billion deficit, while he praised their economic contributions and said he is "happy" they have access to services.

The Republican governor, answering wide-ranging questions from The Bee's editorial board and its readers, also vented about roadblocks to his authority posed by political foes and warned that government can't sustain the current level of "unbelievable benefits" for public-sector workers.

In response to dozens of questions from readers who say the state ought to wipe out the deficit by eliminating services for illegal immigrants, the governor said it is a "myth" that those immigrants are to blame.

He said the cost of services to illegal immigrants, which has been estimated at $4 billion to $5 billion annually, is a "small percentage" of the deficit California faces.

"Yes, it is something that ought to be dealt with, but the fact of the matter is, I think it's an easy scapegoat for people to point the finger and say, 'Our budget is out of whack because of illegal immigrants.' "

"It's not," he added. "Our budget is out of whack because we have self-inflicted wounds that the Legislature and this state has never really sat down and had the will to go and make the necessary changes that have to be made."

The governor noted that the federal government requires California to provide emergency health care and education to illegal immigrants. Schwarzenegger in 2006 renounced his 1994 vote for Proposition 187, the initiative to block most services for illegal immigrants, which courts deemed unconstitutional.

"You know something, as far as I'm concerned, I'm happy that they can get the services," he said Friday. "Because I would like to have the services if I'm somewhere in another country … if I have an accident with a motorcycle and I go to an emergency room, I don't want someone to say, is he here legally?"

Schwarzenegger also highlighted the economic contributions of illegal immigrants.

"Everything we eat today is picked and created by undocumented immigrants, to a large extent," he said. "And every time we go to a restaurant and every time we go and move into a building, a lot of those buildings are built by undocumented immigrants' hands."

Schwarzenegger has two budget proposals that affect immigrants. He proposed asking the federal government to deport up to 8,000 illegal immigrants in state prisons to save $182 million. He also wants to save $120 million by eliminating benefits for newly legal low-income immigrants who do not yet qualify for federal assistance.

The governor has said he believes the United States should enforce tougher border controls, and he has advocated for immigration changes such as a guest worker program.

A Federation for American Immigration Reform study released in 2004 said illegal immigrants cost the state $9 billion annually, including $7.7 billion on education. But University of Southern California demographer Dowell Myers has disputed that number and said it is difficult to quantify the full economic impact of illegal immigrants.

Jim Gilchrist, president of the Minuteman Project, accused the governor of "pandering to political correctness." He acknowledged that costs of some goods and services could increase without illegal immigrants, but he said that would be outweighed by tax savings.

"The money for services comes from increased sales taxes, increased property taxes, increased DMV fees," he said.

Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, praised the governor for saying immigrants are not to blame.

"Our economy is very, very dependent on the immigrant work force," he said. "They're a very disciplined, very stable, very productive work force. Our economy would collapse without them."

Facing a $24.3 billion deficit after signing a $92 billion spending plan in February, the Republican governor accepted some blame for what has transpired since he was elected on the promise of fiscal rescue.


Poster Comment:

He said the cost of services to illegal immigrants, which has been estimated at $4 billion to $5 billion annually, is a "small percentage" of the deficit California faces. HEY F**KTARD (that's you Arnold) Do you think we are as dumb as you? The deficit of your pathetic Mexican state is 24.3 billion according to the article. You say the cost of the p.o.s is 4 or 5 billion annually, should be anally. Now jackass, what percentage is 5 billion out of 24? It is 20% of the deficit. THAT IS NOT A SMALL AMOUNT. Im sure 4-5 billion is a lowball estimate. Just think, If you didnt give the aliens BENIFITS THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO, PAYED FOR BY CALIFORNIA CITIZENS FOR THE LAST 5 YRS. you wouldnt have a deficit would you jackass?

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#8. To: Disgusted (#0)

"You know something, as far as I'm concerned, I'm happy that they can get the services," he said Friday. "Because I would like to have the services if I'm somewhere in another country … if I have an accident with a motorcycle and I go to an emergency room, I don't want someone to say, is he here legally?"

Is the governor himself here legally? The bastard ought to be deported and take his wife with him. She's a kennedy and they have always been liberal.No mentionof poor governance, no siree! What a retard arnold is. Four or 5 billion dollars a year to pay for illegal health , educational benefits, and other state benefits is not pocket change. Add up each years billions the illegals cost the taxpayers in californication and is easy to see why they are in financial straights.

You stupid californicators deserve what has happened to you for voting in this foreignpiece of shit as your governor. You got what you deserve LOL!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-06-17   14:29:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: LACUMO (#8)

You stupid californicators deserve what has happened to you for voting in this foreignpiece of shit as your governor. You got what you deserve LOL!

Do you know who the alternative was?

If not, it was a Mexican named Bustamante, a former member of MEChA.

Like in the presidential elections of 2000, 2004, and 2008, the choice was between horrible and hideous.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-06-18   16:20:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#18)

Do you know who the alternative was?

If not, it was a Mexican named Bustamante, a former member of MEChA.

Like in the presidential elections of 2000, 2004, and 2008, the choice was between horrible and hideous.

So the californicators voted for the lesser of two evils just like the dumbed down voters who voted for who they perceived to be the lesser of two evils in our presidential elections the past 3 or 4 election cycles.

Both got what they deserved. Evil is evil period. The worst thing about it is that the dumbed down masses voting either in a state election or a federal one will continue voting for evil candidates. Tis better to vote for a crooked son- of-a-bitch knowing he/she will screw and cheat you vs. someone who runs for office on a pack of lies and ends up screwing you anyway after cheating your mind. The californicators are some pretty dumbed down voters.

Too bad the big one doesn't happen and the whole country breaks off and flows out into the Pacific or south to mestixico where all the illegal wetback bastards came from.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-06-21   14:52:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: LACUMO, IDon'tThinkSo (#26)

The californicators are some pretty dumbed down voters.

You have over simplified what is going on in CA. Californians will vote conservative if given a chance. The party leaders make sure that doesn't happen. They have activily damaged any conservative candidate that makes a play all the while talking about how a conservative can't win.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-21   15:44:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: farmfriend, Jethro Tull, All (#28)

The californicators are some pretty dumbed down voters.

You have over simplified what is going on in CA. Californians will vote conservative if given a chance.

They have the chance! It is because they have been dumbed down that they keep voting for the lesser of two evils and or vote for the candidate they have been duped into believing is best. What do you mean they would vote conservative if given a chance? I don't believe anybody is putting a gun to their heads when they vote.

I'm spot on in my assessment. Californicators are so dumbed down they deserve what they are getting. Arnold is as stupid as the Californicator voters are.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-06-21   18:15:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: LACUMO (#30)

The party leaders destroy the campaigns of conservative candidates. They have done it several times. The last time a good conservative was on the ballot with a good chance of winning, they put Arnold in there "because he can win". In a two man race, the conservative was ahead. With Arnold in there as a three man race he wins. Of course the fact that he was ahead in the polls in a three man race was used against having just a conservative in a two man race.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-21   18:24:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend (#31) (Edited)

The party leaders destroy the campaigns of conservative candidates. They have done it several times.

For the last time! The voters have been dumbed down in Californicate. If they had an ounce of brain matter they wouldn't fall for the party leaders shenanigans. Can you say dumbed down?

I'm from a rural county in Pennsylvania. The farmers have been dumbed down or else born that way because they will vote for anybody that is a pubbie simply because he/she is a pubbie. They have saddled us with some pretty piss poor representatives. The most recent ones have been tommy ridge and pedophile English. They both are as neo-con as you can get! English finally lost his last congressional re-election attempt. The farmers here still voted overwhelmingly for this sorry POS in my county. FTF!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-06-21   18:55:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: LACUMO (#32)

For the last time! The voters have been dumbed down in Californicate. If they had an ounce of brain matter they wouldn't fall for the party leaders shenanigans. Can you say dumbed down?

Not really. They are leaving both the state and the party. AIP in Sacramento County alone grew by over 3,500 voters just in the last few months.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-21   18:58:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: farmfriend (#33)

Not really. They are leaving both the state and the party. AIP in Sacramento County alone grew by over 3,500 voters just in the last few months.

But the horse is already out of the barn. Closing the doors now when it is too late won't solve Californicates problems.

Arnold and all those illegal wetbacks will make Californicate the new Shangrilai with a little help from obanger and the freaks in washington DC.

You appear to be as stubborn as oldfriend. Could the reason be the friend part of your handle? Be back later. Gotta go walk my dog Max. He is alot smarter than a lot of the posters on here.

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