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Title: Israel is losing the PR war so badly that even evangelical support is eroding
Source: THE JERUSALEM POST
URL Source: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell ... me=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
Published: Jun 18, 2009
Author: BRIAN SCHRAUGER
Post Date: 2009-06-18 08:09:29 by robnoel
Keywords: None
Views: 612
Comments: 35

The war that Israel keeps losing is the war of world opinion, the war for individual hearts and minds. Consider recent stumbles.

Israel's military campaign in Gaza should have been named "8,000 is enough!" This would have communicated a determination to stop the barrage of missiles from Hamas, using surgical precision to destroy its arsenal, but destroying all of it, not just a part. Enough was enough: 8,000 missiles launched on the nation's civilian population would no longer be tolerated.

Unfortunately the operation was dubbed, "Cast Lead." The resulting image in the English-speaking world was not helpful. Lead is a soft metal associated with poison. The implication, then, was an unprofessional plan with ambivalent determination, biased motives and toxic methods.

Which is exactly how governments and media judge "the Gaza war." Israel and her defenders respond by arguing, "Israel has the right to defend herself." This is true, but flawed. Why? Limiting Israel's self-defense to a right makes it an option. Little wonder, then, that Israel's enemies portray her as a ruthless bully. In the matter of Gaza, for example, she could have chosen to refrain.

In fact, Israel has more than a right to defend her citizens and existence. Along with every sovereign state, she has a mandate to defend against invaders, murderers, thieves, poverty and disease. And from enemies who declare war and wage it.

The Hamas unamended charter of 1988 is a declaration of war. It explicitly calls for destruction of the Jewish state of Israel through jihad - against Jews and Christians (Article 13). Any member who abandons this struggle is guilty of "high treason and cursed" (Article 32). Accordingly, any "initiatives... so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to [these] principles" (Article 13).

Even so, the United States is on the verge of engaging Hamas as entity that is on par with Israel. No, not on par: morally superior. Consider the recent image splashed across America by political cartoonist, Pat Oliphant, portraying Israel as a headless, heartless, jack-booted Nazi devouring helpless, little Gaza.

Where did that idea come from? Look at Article 20 of Hamas's 1988 charter and see who is winning the PR war.

Of course it is more than public opinion that is being lost; it is the death of common sense; it is defeat in the war for truth.

EVEN EVANGELICAL SUPPORT is eroding. A vocal minority remain effusive on Israel's behalf. But the broader community is not monolithic. Many of its members are hungry for change, not unlike the political appetite that won Barack Hussein Obama the presidency. Among evangelicals the religious equivalent is a movement led by people like Brian McLaren, author of A New Kind of Christian; Stephen Sizer, a pastor who has gained popularity by condemning "Christian Zionism"; and, of course, Jimmy Carter, who accuses Israel of committing a "holocaust." How widespread is the erosion of evangelical support for Israel? Google this: "Letter to President Bush from Evangelical Leaders." Look at those who signed it - and the organizations they represent. Their claim to "represent large numbers of evangelicals" is true.

And behind it all? A resurgence of replacement theology, an ideology that, for almost 1700 years, has been used to ignite atrocities against Jewish communities.

So what can Israel do to win its global PR war, a war for truth?

One of Judaism's greatest traits is that, while the rest of world talks, it acts. The government of Israel has beefed up media relations and lobbying efforts to Western countries. It makes a special effort to reach Christians through its Tourism Ministry and the Knesset's Christian Allies Caucus.

Religious Israeli organizations do a first-rate job in taking their case to gentiles. And a host of secular entities, most of them nonprofits, are second to none in telling the truth about Israel and exposing its enemies' lies.

But it is not enough. What else can be done? How can Israel be a more effective light that draws the nations to her?

First, recruit the world of commerce. Independent, for-profit media companies must present the broad canvas of Israeli news. Expanded investments in Israeli technologies will yield medical breakthroughs, unleash alternative energy sources and provide water and food for the world's population.

Second, aim directly to inform the potential "grassroot" supporters of the Jewish state. Bring Israel to them and they will come to Israel, both as tourists and supporters of the state.

Yes, methods include the Internet and its social networking tools. Still, there is nothing more effective than firsthand encounters.

So. Sponsor events. Send invitations to others instead of seeking invitations from others.

Deploy first-class conventions and shows and fairs, events hosted on civic platforms around the world. Get endorsements from influential people to market these events. Use them to showcase Israel, not defame it.

Begin these tours where demographic support is strong. Respect religious sensibilities. But use secular venues so that people from different backgrounds will feel comfortable and welcome. Participants with a variety of interests - business, social, political and religious - will enhance grassroot support for Israel and her people.

Most importantly, seek wisdom from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Listen for the whisper of His counsel. He alone is God of all the nations. Under the banner of His leadership, Israel will win.

The writer is director of radio broadcasting for Israel World TV.

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#1. To: robnoel (#0)

I've got a different definition of "replacement theology" than the writer.

The Khazars (aka Ashkenazim) replaced the actual "chosen tribe" when they migrated to the "SLC" over the last 100 or so years.

The actual tribe (the Sephardim) are treated like "S" by the "SLC." They are the Israeli version of blacks. There are even a few actual black Ethiopian Jews there who are no doubt treated even worse.

I guess this wouldn't be theology so much as "replacement ethnicity." It still confirms the bogus nature of the SLC, though.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-06-18   8:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robnoel (#0)

Most importantly, seek wisdom from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Listen for the whisper of His counsel. He alone is God of all the nations. Under the banner of His leadership, Israel will win.

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Doesn't the Bible prophecy that the wrath of the entire world would come down on Israel before the Battle of Armageddon?

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-06-18   8:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)

Doesn't the Bible prophecy that the wrath of the entire world would come down on Israel before the Battle of Armageddon?

Rob tore out all the pages in his Bible that said Jew or Israel. So he is clueless. Willingly ignorant. Without exescuse.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-18   8:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Old Friend (#3)

Try finding the term "Jew" in the bible moron

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-18   9:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Sam Houston (#1)

The article was posted in the JP which should answer your question

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-18   9:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robnoel, Old Friend (#4)

John, Chapter 5

 7"Sir," the invalid replied, "I have no one to help me into the pool when the water is stirred. While I am trying to get in, someone else goes down ahead of me."

 8Then Jesus said to him, "Get up! Pick up your mat and walk." 9At once the man was cured; he picked up his mat and walked.
      The day on which this took place was a Sabbath, 10and so the Jews said to the man who had been healed, "It is the Sabbath; the law forbids you to carry your mat."

 11But he replied, "The man who made me well said to me, 'Pick up your mat and walk.' "

 12So they asked him, "Who is this fellow who told you to pick it up and walk?"

 13The man who was healed had no idea who it was, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd that was there.

 14Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him, "See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." 15The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.

Life Through the Son
 16So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews persecuted him. 17Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working." 18For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

 19Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, to your amazement he will show him even greater things than these. 21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

 24"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. 25I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. 27And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

 28"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. 30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-06-18   9:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robnoel, Old Friend (#5)

(jew)
occurs 32 times in 32 verses in the KJV

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-06-18   9:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robnoel, Old Friend (#4)

(jews)
occurs 257 times in 244 verses in the KJV

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-06-18   9:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#7) (Edited)

I stand corrected however there was no such thing as a Jew at the time Christ was on the earth.

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-18   9:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robnoel, all (#0)

Consider recent stumbles.

Only a fucking "jew" would call that war crime a "stumble".

Oopsie, I tripped and skinned my widdle knee!.

Under the banner of His leadership, Israel will win.

Gott mit uns. Right.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-06-18   9:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robnoel, Old Friend (#9)

Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Mat 27:11 And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.

Mat 27:29 And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put [it] upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!

Luk 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-06-18   9:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robnoel, Old Friend (#9)

Jews, The:

Hebrews

Gen 14:13; 40:15; 2Cr 11:22

Israelites

Exd 9:7; Jos 3:17

Seed of Abraham

Psa 105:6; Isa 41:8

Seed of Jacob

Jer 33:26

Seed of Israel

1Ch 16:13

Children of Jacob

1Ch 16:13

Children of Israel

Gen 50:25; Isa 27:12

Jeshurun

Deu 32:15

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-06-18   9:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robnoel (#0)

First, recruit the world of commerce. Independent, for-profit media companies must present the broad canvas of Israeli news. Expanded investments in Israeli technologies will yield medical breakthroughs, unleash alternative energy sources and provide water and food for the world's population.

Reminds me of ADM and DOW chemical commercials.

The holy shall kill thy therapist, for it IS a sin.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-06-18   10:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA (#10)

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-06-18   11:29:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robnoel (#0) (Edited)

One of Judaism's greatest traits is that, while the rest of world talks, it acts.

Judaism's acts according to the Talmud:

Henry Kissenger said American military members are equivalent to dumb animals. Of course Henry Kissenger is a Jew that follows the Talmud. Good traits only for those that are depraved and have no sense of reason or goodness.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-06-18   12:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robnoel (#4)

Try finding the term "Jew" in the bible moron

Actually, the word Jew didn't appear until the King James version.

Rube Goldberg  posted on  2009-06-18   13:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rube Goldberg (#16)

Then my original statement was true because Old Friend only quotes from the Old Testament

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-18   13:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robnoel (#17)

Then my original statement was true because Old Friend only quotes from the Old Testament

Jesus was a 'Judean', not a Jew.

During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.

In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.

Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers".

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Who was the First Jew? John Standring

We know that Saul was the first king of Israel and that John was the first man called Baptist, but who was the first Jew? Neither Adam, Seth or Noah are called Jew. Nor were Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Moses was not called a Jew and neither were Saul, David or Solomon called Jew. In fact you will not find the word Jew in the first eleven books of the Bible. The first time Jews are mentioned in the Bible, is in II Kings 16:6 (and then only in translations revised in the eighteenth century) where we find Israel was at war with the Jews and drave the Jews from Elath. Isn't it interesting that we can read over five hundred pages of the Bible before we find a Jew anywhere, yet those who call themselves Jew today claim the first five books of the bible and call it their Torah. Do you not find it rather strange that those who claim to have written the first five books of the Bible and call themselves Jew, can't find the word Jew written anywhere in the book they call their own bible, and claim to have written? Jesus Christ tells John in Revelation 2:9 "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN". We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham in Genesis 17:5, and that He changed the name of Jacob to Israel in Genesis 32:28, but nowhere in the Bible do we find where God changed the name of Israel to Jew! There is therefore no authority by which those who say they are Jews can claim to be Israel!

By the time of Jesus the word Edom or Edomite had been translated by Greek and Latin into Ioudaios and Iudaeus meaning a Judean or person living in Judea. The original King James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into Iewes. It wasn't until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite! We must conclude therefore that the first "Jews" were Canaanite-Edomite-Hittite. It is certain, according to the Bible, that Jews are not Israel. jesusjew.htm

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Rube Goldberg  posted on  2009-06-18   14:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rube Goldberg (#18)

In reference to "Jews" in the NT: I have checked the 22 instances that I could find, and in all cases the word used is Ioudaios or some declension thereof in the Greek.

For example:

Colossians 3:11 Where there is neither (Hopou ouk eini Hellein kai Ioudaios), circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all.

Interesting here that in antithesis Paul seems to be using "Greek" and "Jew" to personify the pagan and the Yahwist in general. I wonder how a Greek or Judean of the time would have read it. And it make me wonder who was being referred to in the Epistle to the Hebrews. As it turns out, scholars say that this epistle was written to "Jewish-Christians" in Italy who were establishing the new worship there. Also interesting is the use of the term "Hebrew" to refer to these people because as we know the tribes known as Hebrews had long since been dispersed or assimilated.

What then, I wonder, is a catch all term for all those at the turm of the millenium that followed and believed in the Torah and its cheif deity Yahweh?

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randge  posted on  2009-06-18   16:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rube Goldberg (#18)

Thanks...

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-18   16:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rube Goldberg (#18)

Jesus was a 'Judean', not a Jew.

Exactly right. There were no "Jews" in those days, since the word did not exist.

And the sign above his cross did NOT read "King of the Jews." It read "King of the Judeans."

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Turtle  posted on  2009-06-18   18:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robnoel (#4)

Try finding the term "Jew" in the bible moron

Hehe. You are calling me a moron. You have sunk to new depths of stupidity now.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-18   21:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Old Friend (#22)

Whose "Old Friend" are you supposed to be?

Rube Goldberg  posted on  2009-06-19   17:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Old Friend (#22)

It was a moment of weakness...I was being kind!

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-19   17:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robnoel (#9)

I stand corrected

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Rotara  posted on  2009-06-19   17:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Sam Houston (#1)

The Khazars (aka Ashkenazim) replaced the actual "chosen tribe" when they migrated to the "SLC" over the last 100 or so years.

The actual tribe (the Sephardim) are treated like "S" by the "SLC." They are the Israeli version of blacks. There are even a few actual black Ethiopian Jews there who are no doubt treated even worse.

I guess this wouldn't be theology so much as "replacement ethnicity." It still confirms the bogus nature of the SLC, though.

I read a post on LP the other day that claimed that the Palestinean people are genetically closer to the ancient Jews than the European Jew/zionist who run Israel today are. I had never heard that before so I googled it and sure enough, it's true. The Palestineans are the true Jews.

So when the unbiblical rapture nuts start spouting their phony theology about the whole world turning against Israel right before Armageddon, they are about 60 years too late. The world turned against Israel when the UN booted out the real Jews and replaced them with European Jews.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-06-19   17:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rotara (#25)

Go FY

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-19   17:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Hayek Fan, noone222 (#26)

I read a post on LP the other day that claimed that the Palestinean people are genetically closer to the ancient Jews than the European Jew/zionist who run Israel today are.

noone has done extensive research on this and has posted much information on 4um. maybe he can give us a quick synopsis.

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christine  posted on  2009-06-19   17:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#28)

Palestinean people are genetically closer to the ancient Jews

All of the Semetic brothers came out of Asia together, what we call Jews are by culture not by race.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-06-19   17:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#29)

what we call Jews are by culture not by race.

i agree.

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christine  posted on  2009-06-19   19:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Hayek Fan (#26)

had never heard that before so I googled it and sure enough, it's true. The Palestineans are the true Jews.

When the Arabs conquered the region about 670 AD most of the inhabitants eventually converted to Islam as that was the Royal Religion, and it was a politically and economic expedient thing to do.

Historically a very common occurrence. A subject population migrates to the religion of the powerful.

I believe that, in general, the modern Palestine ethnic group are as close to the people mentioned of Jews of the Bible as there are extent on the earth today.

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tom007  posted on  2009-06-19   20:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tom007 (#31)

Muhammad, many historians say, really tried to turn all the Jews his way. For the first few years the qibla or direction of prayer was toward Mount Zion or Al Quds.

They wouldn't bite in numbers, and I can dig that, having read a lot of the Koran. It doesn't have the punch of the O.T. So he gave it up and had his people pray toward Mecca.

It took the caliphs after his death conquer and convert most of Jerusalem.

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randge  posted on  2009-06-19   20:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Rube Goldberg (#23)

Whose "Old Friend" are you supposed to be?

Not yours you commie bitch.

I am the friend of traditional Americans and constitutionalists.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-19   22:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#28)

I read a post on LP the other day that claimed that the Palestinean people are genetically closer to the ancient Jews than the European Jew/zionist who run Israel today are.

noone has done extensive research on this and has posted much information on 4um. maybe he can give us a quick synopsis.

lol. no one googled I hate Jews and cut and pasted. That doesn't count as research.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-19   23:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: tom007 (#31)

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-was-the- jewish-people-invented/

He says the same thing

Rube Goldberg  posted on  2009-06-21   22:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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