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Title: JFK - Shocking New Footage! Stabilized, filtered and in high definition: 05/12/2009
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Published: Jun 24, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-06-24 18:28:52 by Clitora
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#2. To: Clitora (#0)
Actually, I think the "gun" you see is the reflection of the sun off of Agent Kellerman's hair. When the moment comes when the "gun" supposedly goes off, there's no muzzle flash and no recoil. Furthermore, the sheer force displayed when JFK's head literally explodes says to me that it was a rifle bullet that hit him, not a pistol bullet, unless said pistol was a .45, and if that was the case there would be a very prominent muzzle flash and one hell of a recoil. I've looked at this footage countless times, and have never agreed with the premise that Agent Greer fired a shot at JFK. Now, do I think Oswald acted alone? Hell no. I think JFK was caught in a crossfire, and the fatal shot came from in front of the limo, to the right. Why do I think that? Because his head snaps BACK and to the LEFT. That's why. It's basic physics. As compared to the utterly laughable "Magic Bullet" theory proposed by Senator Arlen Spector, which asks us all to believe that the laws of physics were suspended for a few momentous seconds in Dallas. I am of the opinion that the "Greer shot JFK" theory is a classic example of a "honeypot" set out by those who seek to discredit those who question the official lie.
No, what you see is the blow out, exit not entrance. As for the head going back, oddly enough that is consistent with a shot from behind.
No, what you see is the blow out, exit not entrance. As for the head going back, oddly enough that is consistent with a shot from behind. I've never thought that the pattern of blood, bone and tissue that you see as the parietal portion of the skull comes away is consistent with a shot from behind. That's how the Dan Rather reenactments want us to view it. (And that's another reason in itself to doubt the head shot from behind.) In addition, it's not only his skull that goes forward, but his upper torso. The fatal shot came from the front.
I disagree. I've seen the science on this. His head and torso move backwards. This is consistent with the blowout visible on the film.
ff, my friend, Go out in your back yard, setup some bottles of water, shoot (and hit them), and see which way that they fall. Post videos, if you can. Thanks.
I've already seen such experiments done with melons. I wish I had it to post. Shoot a melon and it will jump towards the shot, not back. Try it yourself. Watch the footage again. It is the blow out in the front that kicks his head back.
Firing at a melon is not a particularly useful experiment in this case. But I will say this about the film which is the subject of this thread: IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL FRAMES OF THE ZAPRUDER FILM, WHAT PASSES FOR THE "GUN" IN THIS PRESENTATION LOOKS MUCH DIFFERENT. I think that there is a good deal of suggestion in this presentation that may be misleading, even to people trying to be objective. CHECK THIS OUT: www.assassinationresearch.com /zfilm/ Here you can look at and blow up individual Zapruder film frames. View frames 305-320. You will get a different perspective on the "gun," the agent's "hand" and head.
honestly, i can't see a damn thing except that the driver is turned around looking at kennedy. i can't tell where his hands are. what do you see?
honestly, i can't see a damn thing except that the driver is turned around looking at kennedy. i can't tell where his hands are. what do you see? As HOUNDDAWG noted, the agent's left hand, the one that the posted video suggests is wielding a gun, is on the arm rest. The gun is some object that I can't identify that seems to be associated with the head of the agent in the passenger seat and seems to be in motion with the head as it moves from frame to frame. As far as the shot from the front or the rear goes, having shot blown a number things to bits with rifles and handguns, I draw this conclusion from looking at this frame. The angle formed by the tissue, nearly 180 degrees, suggests a shot from the front. If this had been a shot from the rear, there would have been a much narrower cone of matter issuing from the exit wound. A large portion of the parietal area of the the skull is blasted back exposing that area of the brain, which is evident is subsequent frames. Also noteworthy is the fact that with a frontal impact, there is no exit wound. A rear shot from, say the Book Depository Building, would have to cover about 90 yards. A medium caliber rifle, which was used here according to bullets recovered, would have lost a lot of momentum by the time it found its target. To create this kind of damage with in this range of calibers, I think that a near point-blank range would be required.
thanks, randge. my conclusion is tht kennedy indeed was shot from the front, but i don't think it was by the driver. i also must conclude that he was, however, InOnIt.
I have to go to work, but somewhere I have a chart that shows the calculated speed of the Lincoln, frame by frame. You can see that he slows down for the head shot. Will post.
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#6. To: Elliott Jackalope (#2)
I think JFK was caught in a crossfire, and the fatal shot came from in front of the limo, to the right. Why do I think that? Because his head snaps BACK and to the LEFT. That's why. It's basic physics.
#8. To: farmfriend (#6)
#10. To: randge, lodwick (#8)
In addition, it's not only his skull that goes forward, but his upper torso. The fatal shot came from the front.
#11. To: farmfriend (#10)
#15. To: lodwick (#11)
#18. To: farmfriend, All (#15)
#34. To: randge (#18)
You will get a different perspective on the "gun," the agent's "hand" and head.
#60. To: christine, All (#34)
You will get a different perspective on the "gun," the agent's "hand" and head.
#66. To: randge (#60)
#67. To: christine (#66)
i also must conclude that he was, however, InOnIt.
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