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Title: JFK - Shocking New Footage! Stabilized, filtered and in high definition: 05/12/2009
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Published: Jun 24, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-06-24 18:28:52 by Clitora
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#2. To: Clitora (#0)
Actually, I think the "gun" you see is the reflection of the sun off of Agent Kellerman's hair. When the moment comes when the "gun" supposedly goes off, there's no muzzle flash and no recoil. Furthermore, the sheer force displayed when JFK's head literally explodes says to me that it was a rifle bullet that hit him, not a pistol bullet, unless said pistol was a .45, and if that was the case there would be a very prominent muzzle flash and one hell of a recoil. I've looked at this footage countless times, and have never agreed with the premise that Agent Greer fired a shot at JFK. Now, do I think Oswald acted alone? Hell no. I think JFK was caught in a crossfire, and the fatal shot came from in front of the limo, to the right. Why do I think that? Because his head snaps BACK and to the LEFT. That's why. It's basic physics. As compared to the utterly laughable "Magic Bullet" theory proposed by Senator Arlen Spector, which asks us all to believe that the laws of physics were suspended for a few momentous seconds in Dallas. I am of the opinion that the "Greer shot JFK" theory is a classic example of a "honeypot" set out by those who seek to discredit those who question the official lie.
No, what you see is the blow out, exit not entrance. As for the head going back, oddly enough that is consistent with a shot from behind.
No, what you see is the blow out, exit not entrance. As for the head going back, oddly enough that is consistent with a shot from behind. I've never thought that the pattern of blood, bone and tissue that you see as the parietal portion of the skull comes away is consistent with a shot from behind. That's how the Dan Rather reenactments want us to view it. (And that's another reason in itself to doubt the head shot from behind.) In addition, it's not only his skull that goes forward, but his upper torso. The fatal shot came from the front.
I disagree. I've seen the science on this. His head and torso move backwards. This is consistent with the blowout visible on the film.
ff, my friend, Go out in your back yard, setup some bottles of water, shoot (and hit them), and see which way that they fall. Post videos, if you can. Thanks.
I've already seen such experiments done with melons. I wish I had it to post. Shoot a melon and it will jump towards the shot, not back. Try it yourself. Watch the footage again. It is the blow out in the front that kicks his head back.
Firing at a melon is not a particularly useful experiment in this case. But I will say this about the film which is the subject of this thread: IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL FRAMES OF THE ZAPRUDER FILM, WHAT PASSES FOR THE "GUN" IN THIS PRESENTATION LOOKS MUCH DIFFERENT. I think that there is a good deal of suggestion in this presentation that may be misleading, even to people trying to be objective. CHECK THIS OUT: www.assassinationresearch.com /zfilm/ Here you can look at and blow up individual Zapruder film frames. View frames 305-320. You will get a different perspective on the "gun," the agent's "hand" and head.
honestly, i can't see a damn thing except that the driver is turned around looking at kennedy. i can't tell where his hands are. what do you see?
honestly, i can't see a damn thing except that the driver is turned around looking at kennedy. i can't tell where his hands are. what do you see? As HOUNDDAWG noted, the agent's left hand, the one that the posted video suggests is wielding a gun, is on the arm rest. The gun is some object that I can't identify that seems to be associated with the head of the agent in the passenger seat and seems to be in motion with the head as it moves from frame to frame. As far as the shot from the front or the rear goes, having shot blown a number things to bits with rifles and handguns, I draw this conclusion from looking at this frame. The angle formed by the tissue, nearly 180 degrees, suggests a shot from the front. If this had been a shot from the rear, there would have been a much narrower cone of matter issuing from the exit wound. A large portion of the parietal area of the the skull is blasted back exposing that area of the brain, which is evident is subsequent frames. Also noteworthy is the fact that with a frontal impact, there is no exit wound. A rear shot from, say the Book Depository Building, would have to cover about 90 yards. A medium caliber rifle, which was used here according to bullets recovered, would have lost a lot of momentum by the time it found its target. To create this kind of damage with in this range of calibers, I think that a near point-blank range would be required.
thanks, randge. my conclusion is tht kennedy indeed was shot from the front, but i don't think it was by the driver. i also must conclude that he was, however, InOnIt.
He stopped the vehicle which was certainly not what he was trained to do. And, a supervisor pulled the agents away from the limo shortly before the shooting thereby exposing the president and minimizing the risk of agents being shot. I can only wonder how the presidential protective detail of the US Secret Service were enlisted to assist in this coup and just what is was they believed JFK had done to deserve such a fate. I have to wonder because the Warren Commission never asked these or any other relevant questions.
Among other unsettling details that have been well attested to, they were out late drinking the night before the assassination. They were in on it, but certainly not on the level of conspiracy. There actions were directed by other forces. Mordechai Vanunu endorses Michael Collins Piper's argument that the momentum for the assassination had its origin in Israel. The Howard Hunt team from what I gather was a decoy team that could have taken the heat if things went south with an investigation. It's not unlikely that Hunt thought warning shots would be fired that day to send JFK a message.
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#6. To: Elliott Jackalope (#2)
I think JFK was caught in a crossfire, and the fatal shot came from in front of the limo, to the right. Why do I think that? Because his head snaps BACK and to the LEFT. That's why. It's basic physics.
#8. To: farmfriend (#6)
#10. To: randge, lodwick (#8)
In addition, it's not only his skull that goes forward, but his upper torso. The fatal shot came from the front.
#11. To: farmfriend (#10)
#15. To: lodwick (#11)
#18. To: farmfriend, All (#15)
#34. To: randge (#18)
You will get a different perspective on the "gun," the agent's "hand" and head.
#60. To: christine, All (#34)
You will get a different perspective on the "gun," the agent's "hand" and head.
#66. To: randge (#60)
#75. To: christine (#66)
thanks, randge. my conclusion is tht kennedy indeed was shot from the front, but i don't think it was by the driver. i also must conclude that he was, however, InOnIt.
#77. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine, all (#75)
but i don't think it was by the driver. i also must conclude that he was, however, InOnIt.
Final Judgment’s case in this regard is principally built on the key significance of Meyer Lansky as the real power player in American organized crime in the 1950s and 1960s, the superior of Giancana, Roselli, Marcello, Mickey Cohen, Mickey Weiner, Moe Dalitz, Frank Costello, and others previously mentioned as participants in the Kennedy conspiracy. In turn, Lansky’s role as a committed Zionist and fund-raiser for the State of Israel involved direct, palpable links between his criminal empire, his Miami-based banks, and the Banque de Credit International (BCI) in Geneva, Switzerland. This latter entity served as the European-based money laundering center for Mr. Lansky’s global activities. BCI in turn, was headed up by an Israeli banker, Tibor Rosenbaum, former Director for Finances and Supply for the Israeli Mossad. Piper then demonstrates that BCI was a chief share holder in a Rome-based corporation called CMC/Permindex, whose chairman of the board was none other than Louis M. Bloomfield of Montreal, Canada, a major fund-raiser for Israel and known asset for Israeli intelligence. CMC/Permindex, in turn, proves to be a major point of intersection which brings the shadowy Bloomfield into direct or indirect contact with Clay Shaw (the chief target of the Jim Garrison JFK investigation in New Orleans), Guy Banister, James Jesus Angleton, FBI Division 5 chief William Sullivan (who spearheaded the FBI investigation for the Warren Commission and served as FBI liaison and friend of Angleton), ex-Cuban President Carlos Prio Socarras (provable gun-running business partner of Oswald assassin Jack Ruby), Ernest Israel Japhet (chairman and president of Israeli Bank Leumi), Shaul Eisenberg (a key figure in Israel’s nuclear bomb development and participant with Rosenbaum in the Swiss-Israel Trade Bank), elements of the French nationalist Secret Army Organization (OAS), CIA agent Theodore Shackley (the CIA’s chief of station in Miami during the CIA-Lansky assassination plots against Fidel Castro), and Abe Feinberg, New York Jewish businessman used by Ben Gurion as the liaison for secret meetings with President Kennedy to resolve the dispute of the latter two over Dimona. It is thus the BCI and CMC/Permindex players and links which Piper employs to show that the players, alliances, and assets were firmly in place to bring those with motive, means, and opportunity together in a plot which culminated in Dallas.
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