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Title: Earth Oxygen levels are dropping. Plankton to save Humanity.
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URL Source: http://www.nowpublic.com/environmen ... ropping-plankton-save-humanity
Published: Jan 26, 2009
Author: Paschen
Post Date: 2009-06-26 23:16:16 by Clitora
Keywords: None
Views: 558
Comments: 76

Earth Oxygen levels are dropping. Plankton to save Humanity. Share: by Paschen | January 26, 2009 at 02:12 pm 1762 views | 57 Recommendations | 32 comments Photos Life, Volcano, Water, Sea, Earth Japan. Paschen. 879.-Photo-01 see larger image By, Uwe Paschen.

The Problem with partial news in Science is that We do often see article claming this find or that result and every one that is not working with in science and research, jumps up or down screaming murder or glory. One day endorsing some thing and the next dismissing it all again with out checking nor knowing the facts or the detail and their implication nor their context.

CJ are great for that, they either, endorse some thing or dismiss it all together regardless of its merit or credential. Just based on their mood or inclinations. The truth and the facts stay on the roadside forgotten and ignored. Why so many Scientist are rather disillusioned with society and its arrogance to be all informed and knowledgeable when in fact most are rather misinformed and ignorant.

Climate change is a great topic totally mishandled by the media at large and the CJ in specific. Not understanding the diverse cycles and data, yet claming to be all knowledgeable and objective, when in fact the key to science is the continuous questioning of the knowledge and trying to prove it be on any doubt to the scientific community in order for it to be able to stand. Yet, revising the finds and observation as well as the proof. And this with every new find and additional knowledge that is added each day.

Why a good scientist will always questioned its own work and that of others even once proven to be true and reproducible in models and reality. Since it may work in all the areas tried and yet would it always be so? Even under unique conditions. We spend 70 years questioning Einstein his famous equation of relativity and tried to see if it would always be true or just in some or most cases, we put that equation upside down at times believing we may have fund a flaw and the press went nuts “he was wrong!” No, that is not what any one said, what was said is that “we may have fund a Flaw.” Then we proved that the equation does work in the calculation of space anomalies and the Press shouted “he was right be on any doubt.” No, again that is not what has been said, “we proved it to be true in some more applications.” Is what was said.

Same does go for articles or excerpts of news related to climate change. the other day I read an article about plankton, which was mixing thing up and misinforming. As I read the article at first I though it was about an older research to use plankton to rebalance the Ocean PH and it stated that this would be done in large scale to save the Ocean and reduce green house gases. So I said this cannot work, since the plankton falls to the bottom and becomes sediment, there for not releasing any calcium Carbonate.

Upon further digging up on information, it was about a project to help us produce more Oxygen since we are being depleting the Oxygen available by burning fossil fuels, creating water vapours, that will be causing more green house gases then CO2 could. The Current Oxygen levels are around 20.9%, this is well explained in Atmospheric Oxygen, Giant Paleozoic Insects and the Evolution of Aerial Locomotor Performance by R. Dudley, JExB, show a high of about 35% just before the beginning of the Permian, with a rapid decline to a low of about 13-14% near the beginning of the Triassic, then a small spike at about 17% in mid Triassic, another drop to about 14-15% early in the Jurassic, a sudden climb to about 21% by mid-Jurassic, then a gentle climb to about 26% early in the Tertiary, and a rather constant, steady decline to the present “20.9%.”Even now, we are not necessarily assured of a more-than-20-per cent oxygen level in the air at all times.

We have been losing oxygen levels due to the burning of Fossil fuels, especially coal and Oil. This is a serious issue since we used to have 21.4% oxygen only a century ago. Should the oxygen level fall down below 19% then we would suffocate, and this could very well happen since Oxygen levels are still decreasing today, and still due to fusil fuel burning.

Should you wonder what all this has to do with plankton, I am getting there. http://www.trufax.org/general/oxygen.html.

Source of Half Earth’s Oxygen Gets Little Credit, being Plankton and more specifically Phytoplankton that are the base of what scientists refer to as oceanic biological productivity, meaning what allows life to exist such as us mammals and fish and so on. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0607_040607_phytoplankton.html

Now the Oxygen depletion is a very serious issue. Why there are two projects under way trying to save us from suffocating so to speak. One is using Phytoplankton to absorb Carbon, lock it up and releasee the Oxygen. The Plankton would be increased or stimulated by putting large amounts or Iron Sulphate into the Ocean. This would actually not have any negative side effect on the oceans since we used to have a lot more plankton in the oceans two centuries ago then we do today. Again, this in large part due to pollution and Pollution induced climate changes. Why the plan to Farm produce massive amounts of Plankton, release them, in order to increase the Oxygen levels back to what they where one century ago. Alternatively, at least stopping the Oxygen levels from dropping any further as they all ready are.

The second project under way is Turning Carbon Dioxide into Fuel, this is done through solar power, since the more CO2 we produce, the more of the free oxygen in the atmosphere we deplete. Even though the CO2 may not be a driving factor for global warming it is the may factor for another and possibly much worse problem: death by insufficient oxygen, plainly put suffocation.

The plankton will help save us and it is not some scientist gone mad, yes the problems are that serious and no, most are not aware because they do not want to be nor are willing to listen or learn. Just worrying about the next vacation to the Bahamas is blist and meanwhile complaining about mad scientist trying to ruin the day by attempting to save Humanity from itself. Maybe we should just pull the plug and let most go under wile trying to save only a few.

See also:

Man-made Global Warming - The Debate is not over!

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Astrophysicist Links Temperature Change with Sun’s Energy Output

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#1. To: Farmfriend (#0)

We have been losing oxygen levels due to the burning of Fossil fuels, especially coal and Oil. This is a serious issue since we used to have 21.4% oxygen only a century ago. Should the oxygen level fall down below 19% then we would suffocate, and this could very well happen since Oxygen levels are still decreasing today, and still due to fusil fuel burning

Go put your mouth where you constant bullshit is and sail out to the middle of the pacific and tell me how the plankton are.

Cause I know of people who went out to the Atlantic Ocean, and they found out that plankton levels are dropping in all the oceans.

The oceans and all of the sea life in them are dying. You can deny it (and probably will) till you are choking sitting next to your computer while you type insessantly about "science".

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-26   23:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Clitora (#1)

Let's assume for the moment that what you say is correct. It isn't but let's go with it anyway. What does that have to do with CO2?


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   0:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Clitora (#0)

Much of the oxygen is used up in cities where there's a concentration of motor vehicles and people and where there's a certain amount of mismanagement as far as O2 is concerned. Trees are best at extracting carbon and producing oxygen when young and growing but cities mostly have mature stands and no programs for storing the carbon by conversion of trees to lumber. Trees are a better producer of O2 than grass because their deeper roots have better access to water than grass in times of drought.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2009-06-27   8:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#2)

Let's assume for the moment that what you say is correct. It isn't but let's go with it anyway. What does that have to do with CO2?

First provide evidence that the oxygen levels are going up do to increased burning of Carbon based fuels and phytoplankton dieoff, as well as a decrease in trees on the planet.

I assume you have some sort of evidence to back up your paranoid hysteria that someone, somewhere is taking away your freedoms because you don't give a damn about this planet.

I bet you will blame it on the sun next. Humans in your small, myopic viewpoint have done nothing to affect the planet?

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   11:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tatarewicz, Farmfriend (#3)

Much of the oxygen is used up in cities where there's a concentration of motor vehicles and people and where there's a certain amount of mismanagement as far as O2 is concerned. Trees are best at extracting carbon and producing oxygen when young and growing but cities mostly have mature stands and no programs for storing the carbon by conversion of trees to lumber. Trees are a better producer of O2 than grass because their deeper roots have better access to water than grass in times of drought.

But according to farmfriend, burning fossil fuels and cutting down trees creates oxygen.

Doesn't it?LOL!

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   11:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#2)

Wheeze, wheeze, I can't breathe.

Good thing I have a lifetime supply of Martian rocks, like Paul Mantee did in "Robinson Crusoe on Mars," where he lit them with a match and they produced oxygen.

Turtle will be A-OK, as long as he gets "serviced" every day.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-06-27   11:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#6)

Turtle will be A-OK, as long as he gets "serviced" every day.

I bet you will be serviced for the rest of your banal and trite existence, by one of your many lovely pugs.LOL!

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   11:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Clitora, farmfriend. (#7)

I bet you will be serviced for the rest of your banal and trite existence, by one of your many lovely pugs.LOL!

Farmfriend is always offering to service me cuz I'm so funny and cute.

You on the other, I'm sure, aren't funny, aren't cute, and never get serviced.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-06-27   11:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#8)

Farmfriend is always offering to service me cuz I'm so funny and cute.

You on the other, I'm sure, aren't funny, aren't cute, and never get serviced.

Farmfriend weighs 400 pounds. She is all yours!

And if I do get serviced by a lovely female, I am not about to talk about it with someone like you.

How many good looking women are in the ozarks, anyway?

3?

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   11:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Clitora, farmfriend (#9)

Farmfriend weighs 400 pounds. She is all yours

I'll bet Farmfriend can beat you up without breaking a sweat.

Wimmmpppp.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-06-27   11:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Clitora (#5)

But according to farmfriend, burning fossil fuels and cutting down trees creates oxygen.

Doesn't it?LOL!

That's not what I said. What I said was CO2 is at historic lows for the planet. It is. We are currently sitting at just above 380 ppmv. Greenhouses are kept at 1000ppmv because plants evolved at higher concentrations and prefer CO2 at that level. Our own submarines are kept over 500ppmv because like plants humans evolved during a time of high concentrations and do better at that level.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   11:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Turtle (#6)

Turtle will be A-OK, as long as he gets "serviced" every day.

It would be my pleasure.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   11:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Clitora, Turtle (#9)

Farmfriend weighs 400 pounds. She is all yours!

LOL you wish. I'm over weight but not nearly that much and half of it is tits anyway.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   11:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#10)

I'll bet Farmfriend can beat you up without breaking a sweat.

with one tit tied behind my back.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   11:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Turtle (#10)

I'll bet Farmfriend can beat you up without breaking a sweat.

Your momma!

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   18:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#11)

That's not what I said. What I said was CO2 is at historic lows for the planet. It is.

That doesn't even make sense.

The only way to determine what mankind is doing to the planet, is to check carbon levels since the industrial revolution.

The planet is not a green house. And I don't believe in evolution so you can throw all that out.

Please stick to the subject. What makes oxygen? What is dying off? What is being cut down?

Why are oxygen levels dropping? Why are massive species decline happening now?

Quit posting trivial numbers that have no relation to the topic at hand.

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   18:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: farmfriend (#13)

LOL you wish. I'm over weight but not nearly that much and half of it is tits anyway.

TMI

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   18:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Clitora (#17)

Then the real problem is population growth and subsidizing that population growth.

Every Immigrant to the US can put in for Government programs that will buy them a car and fuel it.

That is how it works. Welcome to reality. Celebrate Diversity, shut up, and subsidize your own extinction.

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-06-27   19:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mirage (#18)

That is how it works. Welcome to reality. Celebrate Diversity, shut up, and subsidize your own extinction.

Last time I checked, due to the economy, wetbacks are going south. And I have nothing wrong with people of different colors. We, as americans, need to unite against our common enemy. Our common enemry are the rich eastern establishment families and their mirrors in europe and other places of power. We stand together or die like idiots. Period.

“Some say that the age of chivalry is past, that the spirit of romance is dead. The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there is a wrong left unredressed on earth.” Charles Kingsley

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   19:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Clitora (#19)

Then you support subsidizing cars for people in direct opposition to your stated position.

Good luck with that.

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-06-27   20:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mirage (#20)

Then you support subsidizing cars for people in direct opposition to your stated position.

Oh, you mean the ones who have stayed here?

The 12 million or so?

Most of them work in jobs that americans can do.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   20:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Clitora (#16)

Quit posting trivial numbers that have no relation to the topic at hand.

Sorry, I don't take orders from you.

LOL you wish. I'm over weight but not nearly that much and half of it is tits anyway.

TMI

You use a handle like clitora and what I said was too much information? LOL


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   20:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: farmfriend (#22)

Sorry, I don't take orders from you.

You use a handle like clitora and what I said was too much information? LOL

That wasn't an order, it was a suggestion given to you because you seem to have a huge ego problem while thinking you are smarter than you really are, which causes a problem because you have no context and it is impossible to follow you because you are all over the place.

Get a grip, woman.

Anyway, you can get what you think from the screen name "clitora", it is a rorschach test and your reactions behoove you.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   21:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Clitora (#23)

That wasn't an order, it was a suggestion given to you because you seem to have a huge ego problem while thinking you are smarter than you really are, which causes a problem because you have no context and it is impossible to follow you because you are all over the place.

LOL too funny.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   21:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#24)

Thank you for proving my point.

You cannot answer a simple question. Nor two or three. Nor have a legit context for your point.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   21:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Clitora (#25)

You cannot answer a simple question. Nor two or three. Nor have a legit context for your point.

Sure I can but there is that whole pearls before swine thing...


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   21:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#24)

You have to publicly admit that the poster, Clitora has a below level established norm for an IQ. And it still argues; similar to the rabble rousers all around the world that demand their credibility based upon nothing more but they were born upon the Earth.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   21:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#27)

You have to publicly admit that the poster, Clitora has a below level established norm for an IQ.

I've seen the handle on the board but this is the first time I've run across him myself. At least under this handle. As for below level IQ, well anyone who resorts to personal attacks rather than argue the point is not worth the time or the trouble.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   21:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: farmfriend (#28)

#2. To: Clitora (#1) Let's assume for the moment that what you say is correct. It isn't but let's go with it anyway. What does that have to do with CO2?

Hey, your first post to me was a personal attack.

So not only are you unable to formulate anything other than copy and posts off of the internets, you don't know about the carbon cycle and oxygen levels since we started burning carbon?

Wild. You sure have more time to ridicule others than to argue a point, which just makes your intellignce low enough to not be able to argue a point. ha ha.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   21:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: farmfriend (#28)

Then your turtle came on and shit all over the thread.

And now you are with some godless idiot agreeing on something.

Nothing but low level intelligence agents on this here freedum4um.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   21:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Clitora (#29) (Edited)

Hey, your first post to me was a personal attack.

My first post to you

No worse than the Quiznos commercials. "Put it in me Scott."

Where exactly is the personal attack in that post?

My second second post to you was an answer to your personal attack. You personal attack was made from a post I didn't even make to you but made to Horse.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   21:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Clitora (#30)

And now you are with some godless idiot agreeing on something.

If it is who I think it is then he is not Godless. As for Turtle, well he is fun to play with.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   21:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Clitora (#21)

I'm not talking about illegals. I'm talking about population growth in general.

The more people you have, the greater the energy use. It is axiomatic.

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-06-27   21:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Clitora (#30)

Then your turtle came on and shit all over the thread.

Ha! You envy Turtle and try to put him down because you are threatened by his surperiority to you.

Turtle sees through you.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-06-27   21:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: farmfriend (#28)

I know you have what it takes to play. Don't you want to have some fun with these posters?

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   21:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: farmfriend (#31)

My first post to you on this thread, einstein.

Once again, you are trapped inside your own mind and cannot come out very far, because you are a numbskull.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   21:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mirage (#33)

I'm not talking about illegals. I'm talking about population growth in general.

The more people you have, the greater the energy use. It is axiomatic.

Hey, the elite have it figured out they want to kill off 95% of the population and microchip the ones living so hey, I think they have things set out straight.

We could however create clean, better methods of energy developement and education therefore limiting growth of population, but everyone seems to think that because they have a dick they should use it at all of our expense.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   21:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Clitora (#36)

My first post to you on this thread, einstein.

Ok that wasn't what you said but I can go with it.

Your first post to me, post #1:

Go put your mouth where you constant bullshit is and sail out to the middle of the pacific and tell me how the plankton are.

Looks like a personal attack to me. My response to you in post #2:

Let's assume for the moment that what you say is correct. It isn't but let's go with it anyway. What does that have to do with CO2?

Where exactly is the personal attack in there? Certainly doesn't rise to the level of your fist post. I don't do the personal attack thing. Not my style. People here know that.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   22:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#35)

I know you have what it takes to play. Don't you want to have some fun with these posters?

Oh you know me, I try to be nice to everyone. I'm only a bitch when my hormones are acting up.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   22:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: farmfriend (#38)

I don't do the personal attack thing. Not my style. People here know that.

Who cares who you know here? You personally attacked me on this thread. Did you forget that?

Does knowing people here make up for the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about?

Is that what happens in any group situation?

You agree with each other so much, that when someone challenges you, you lie, mock, forget proper debating skills, and basically show your ass like all women do when they have no sense of propiety?

And that goes for your little turtle, too.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   22:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: farmfriend (#39)

Lets keep you in a play mood. This is where your best discussion shines in any post.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   22:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: farmfriend (#39)

Oh you know me,

Wow.

So I guess you don't get out of the house much. I guess I should pity you instead of laughing at you.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   22:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: farmfriend (#39)

Did you notice the cretin attempting to rile you up again? Oh my!

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   22:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Clitora (#40)

Who cares who you know here? You personally attacked me on this thread. Did you forget that?

Prove it!


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#43)

Did you notice the cretin attempting to rile you up again? Oh my!

yeah. Ain't gonna work though. He's just making a lot of noise about nothing.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#41)

Lets keep you in a play mood. This is where your best discussion shines in any post.

Thank you.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: farmfriend (#45)

You really have personal bearing of the best kind. You seem to tolerate this stuff when the likelihood of your forbearance is of a kind gesture, worst case.

I pray you know how to take a compliment and perhaps create a curtsy in kind.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   23:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#47)

I pray you know how to take a compliment and perhaps create a curtsy in kind.

I have a hard time with compliments though I do try. Years of depression leaves wounds that are hard to heal. But thank you kind sir. You pay me honor I don't always deserve.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Clitora (#37)

We could however create clean, better methods of energy developement and education therefore limiting growth of population, but everyone seems to think that because they have a dick they should use it at all of our expense.

Still others think we need to bring them all to the United States because we need "diversity". I'm still waiting for someone to illustrate a tangible benefit to "diversity".

Even with the recession, we import and subsidize tons of people - illegals, immigrants, refugees - you name it.

All of them qualify for energy assistance.

So given the welfare/warfare state, how can you pay for both better methods of energy development and ensuring that 90% of the population of the country pays little to nothing for their keep? Oh, and while we're at it, let's keep importing people and paying for them too. Let's also encourage more domestic reproduction by giving cash benefits for large families too.

You can't have it all. Something has to give. Since more than 50% of the Governmental budgets of the country go to social services, that looks like a pretty ripe target for reduction and redirection.

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-06-27   23:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: farmfriend (#48)

Someone such as yourself should be far removed from any depressive mood. You seem vibrant and intelligent besides candid and far from languishing in life and personal energy.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   23:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#50)

Someone such as yourself should be far removed from any depressive mood. You seem vibrant and intelligent besides candid and far from languishing in life and personal energy.

Aww you are sweet to say so. Sadly I suffered from clinical depression all my life up until the time I quit nursing my second son. Somehow the hormonal shift changed my brain chemistry enough. It was like a physical weight being lifted from my shoulders. I should have been on medication really. I managed to hide it and function quite well including running my business. It does strike occasionally even today right before...well those female times.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: farmfriend (#51)

Although I don't comment much, I have viewed a few of your articles of interest that you post. You really care about the world around yourself and the rest of us. If we had just a few more folks such as yourself, we would be dancing in the street because of common sense. It is always a pleasure to meet fine people on line. I count you as one of the better and more able-bodied posters attempting to achieve a serious mind-shift concerning where we are at and where where we are going.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   23:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: grace_is_by_our_lord, farmfriend (#52)

Can you take your internet sex to Private Message?

Thanks.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   23:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Clitora, bucky, farmfriend (#53)

I'd just like to see this mind-shift dealie diagrammed.

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-06-27   23:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#52)

Although I don't comment much, I have viewed a few of your articles of interest that you post. You really care about the world around yourself and the rest of us. If we had just a few more folks such as yourself, we would be dancing in the street because of common sense. It is always a pleasure to meet fine people on line. I count you as one of the better and more able-bodied posters attempting to achieve a serious mind-shift concerning where we are at and where where we are going.

wow. I'm humbled.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:44:32 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Clitora (#53)


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:45:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Dakmar (#54)

bucky

Hilarious!

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   23:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Dakmar, grace_is_by_our_lord (#54)


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:50:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Dakmar, grace_is_by_our_lord (#58)

I know what this thread needs, some humor!


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-27   23:54:25 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Clitora (#53)

Farmfriend withstood your blatant and arrogant assaults, slicing your throat to the gurgling motion of mud thrown off a precipice into an abyss. You are a fiendish and despicable coward labeling my compliments as Internet sex.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-27   23:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#60)

You are a fiendish and despicable coward labeling my compliments as Internet sex.

It's the closest you will ever get.

Revel in it.

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-06-27   23:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: farmfriend (#59)

I know what this thread needs, some humor!

mmm-hmmm...:)

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-06-28   0:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Clitora (#61)

I have no intention of such a thing. I might add, I doubt that Farmfriend has any as well. But, look towards yourself. look deep within that hollow interior that has no meaning in life.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-28   0:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#60)

You are a fiendish and despicable coward labeling my compliments as Internet sex.

He's just jealous.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-28   0:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Clitora, grace_is_by_our_lord, dakmar (#61)

It's the closest you will ever get.

Revel in it.

I hate it when others are attacked on my behalf. Since I have my smilie collection up and ready:

Cliora -


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-28   0:15:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: farmfriend (#64)

He's just jealous.

How can a mere slug be jealous? Is the reason based upon on the fact that it has no hands and feet and just slimes along in life?

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-28   0:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: farmfriend (#65)

LOL!

I spent about an hour this morning singing "I've Got The Power!" as calls to be dominated by some stupid-add voodoo crap I've been screaming, backed with counter-chant/responses of of "Fight The Power!". My neighbors are doing a wonderful job of ignoring me, I must add.

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-06-28   0:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Dakmar (#67)

Farmfriend and I are taking L-Arginine, according to some on this thread. Are you riding the bandwagon with us?

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-28   0:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: grace_is_by_our_lord, Dakmar (#68)

Dak and him have been at it on another thread. Dak's a good guy and a good friend.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-28   0:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: farmfriend (#69)

Of course Dakmar is a fine poster. I was just interested in whom snipped his umbilical cord; curiously he didn't do himself did he?.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-06-28   0:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#70)

curiously he didn't do himself did he?

LOL I doubt it. He has too much respect for women.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-06-28   1:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Clitora (#0)

Ignorance by any standard is still ignorance. While pollution and cutting forest might reduce the plants and plankton that create O2, burning fossil fuel has no effect on the oxygen level.

Work it out. in 1765 CO2 was 280 ppm. Now is is 360 ppm an increase of 80 ppm. Even if all that increase in CO2 was due to burning fossil fuel (it doesn't because increases in CO2 levels are mostly due to warming of the oceans; that is, more sun spots, etc.), it decreases 02 by only 80 ppm (say 100 ppm) or 0.0001; that is only 0.01 percent.

DWornock  posted on  2009-07-04   6:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: DWornock, Farmfriend (#72)

While pollution and cutting forest might

Sorry, but your entire post is not only condescending, but kinda silly.

If you have something to say, try not to put down the person you disagree with.

Ad hominem means you are already wrong. Just like Farmfriend has her mental pills (blaming it on hormones).

"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."

Clitora  posted on  2009-07-04   13:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Clitora, DWornock (#73)

Sorry, but your entire post is not only condescending, but kinda silly.

If you have something to say, try not to put down the person you disagree with.

Pot meet kettle.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-04   14:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: farmfriend (#74)

Pot meet kettle.

Very good!

DWornock  posted on  2009-07-05   1:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: DWornock (#75)

Very good!

Thank you.


"The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
--George Washington, General Orders, August 23, 1776

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-05   2:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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