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Title: Our Crawford Visit
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Published: Aug 14, 2005
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2005-08-14 22:47:27 by christine
Keywords: Crawford, Visit
Views: 583
Comments: 61

Our Crawford Visit

Bill and I drove to Crawford to meet Cindy Sheehan this afternoon and to lend support to the crowd. When we arrived at the Crawford Peace House, there was a buffet luncheon of sumptuous Arab food which had been prepared for all by members of a group named 'Iraqis for Peace' (Iraqis who are American citizens) to honor Cindy and the veterans and their families who were there. I would guess there were 300 or so people in attendence. Cindy had been at Camp Casey, near the bush ranch, and arrived at the Peace House about 10 minutes after we arrived. She spoke for about 20 minutes. She said that she had been getting notes and calls of support from people from all over the world—much more support than criticism for what she’s doing. Although, she did lament that every word that she’s said and written is being scutinized and denounced by the MSM yet the man who lied us into this war is not and has not.

Cindy is a very warm and sincere woman whose only purpose in doing this, contrary to her detractors’ criticisms, is to get answers from this president. We spoke with her briefly as she was eating. I gave her some of my ‘Bring ‘em Home’ ribbons, two cases of Karl Schwarz’s book, ‘One Way Ticket to Crawford’ to give to her donators, and a generous gift of cash from Lodwick and from Bill and me.

I’m amazed at the sacrifices and hardship she is enduring. Her days are spent in the gawd-awful Texas heat and humidity just waiting, waiting. Her nights are spent in a little pup tent on the ground. She has access to a shower at the Peace House, but that’s it -- no other creature comforts. I sure couldn’t do what she’s doing. Camping out is not my thing even in the best of conditions.

There were two speakers—an Iraqi man and an Iraqi woman. Both were well-spoken and passionate, however, the woman was more firery. The man, who has lived in America since 1966 and said that he loves this country, spoke of the abhorrent conditions that the Iraqi people are forced to endure. He has many relatives in Iraq and communicates with them directly. He said that millions of people suffer with no or insufficient utility services, such as electricity and water. Some may have electricity for maybe 4 hours a day, but even that is not enough to allow for proper refrigeration of food or a cooling system to combat the 120-130 degree heat.

He said that waiting in gas lines can last for hours and that his cousin usually goes to get gas at midnight, always taking an AK 47 with him because conditions are so dangerous. The people are not allowed to carry gas in containers because they could potentially be used to blow something up or set fires. As such, they are forced to put gas in their cars and then, once at home, syphon the gas with their mouths out of the car’s tank to fill portable containers so that the gas can be used to generate electricity or for cooking. He spoke of the unsafe conditions that the children are forced to walk to school in and then when they arrive at school there is likely to be no electricity.

The woman who spoke was very passionate and brought some in the crowd to tears. She talked about the U.N./U.S. sanctions imposed upon Iraq that lasted 13 years and caused the death of 1.5 million children. She spoke of the current war that is killing and maiming innocent people, many of whom are women and children. She asked, “For what? The Iraqi people have never done anything to harm the American people!" She then answered her own question by saying, “So that the war profiteers can make $billions…..and all based on lies….Where are the WMDs?”

I understand that the MSM was reporting that there had been a large counter demonstration, but we did not see a single person today who was not in support of Cindy and her plight.

Alex Jones arrived just before Bill and I left. I’m sure he met and spoke with Cindy and will probably interview her on his show tomorrow.


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#21. To: scooter, Zipporah, Jethro Tull (#17)

So I am asking myself if it really matters in the big picure if she is associated with Michael Moore or CodePink. Alex Jones once said he didn't care if had to stand with a bunch of communists, anarchists, and socialists in order to question/protest what is going on because he would worry about educating them on freedom and liberty later.

Thoughtful post. I hadn't heard that Alex said this, but I'm inclined to agree with him. If Cindy's message is hurt by associating with CodePink and Michael Moore, it is only because it gives the opposition something to grab onto and spend time discussing. Well, let them; we cannot reach those who call Cindy names like bimbo, antisemite, "grief pimp", etc. anyway.

The problem has been getting any positive MSM coverage at all. Anyway that is done, is good. Cindy's message is very simple, this war is a crime; and it is now being heard. Partly due to the presence of a few supporters we don't agree with on other subjects. So what.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-15   9:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#0)

I'm glad you went. I was hoping some of the people in Texas would go. Do you have an address where a contribution could be sent?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-15   9:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: scooter (#17)

So I am asking myself if it really matters in the big picure if she is associated with Michael Moore or CodePink

Hi Scooter, and thanks for the thoughtful question. For many years I unwittingly was trapped in the false Left/Right paradigm. It wasn’t until a dear friend, Ed Balajeski, snapped me out of that mold. He first did so be exposing the John Birch Society as nothing more than an meet, eat and retreat group. The fact is they are still in a cold war mentality; commies everywhere. In actuality, today we’re fighting a new enemy - the elites, who use as their foot soldiers the neocons (indeed led by former Trotskyites). Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity are far more dangerous to America’s safety than Putin and his Chinese counterpart. In the end, it’s about right and wrong. This war is wrong, and I’ll stand with whoever opposes it. If some of them are still trapped in the L/R nonsense, look at it s a great opportunity to educate them. Thanks for allowing me my ramble :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-15   10:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

Apparently it consists of Dr Raoul and a few dogs with American flags taped to them.

Where can I rent a pig?

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-15   10:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#10)

Good job, guys.

Lod  posted on  2005-08-15   10:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dakmar (#24)

Where can I rent a pig?

Rove doesn't do renting. Leasing perhaps.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-15   10:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: scooter (#17)

I'm so tired of the tired old and false left/right paradigm perpetuated by the leaders of the two parties. It's whole purpose is to divide us. When will Americans realize that our real enemies are the global elites, the corporate profiteers who care nothing for the people of this country or any other? Their motives and agenda is unamerican, collectivist, and anti individual liberty and sovereignty.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-15   10:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine, robin, 1776 (#27)

Christine, is this true? Cindy Sheehan's Crowd

It turns out that the Crawford Peace House Web site includes a photo depicting the entire state of Israel as "Palestine," and it carries a link to a report that when Prime Minister Sharon visited Crawford, the "peace house" greeted him with an "800-foot-long banner containing all of the United Nations resolutions that Israel is in violation of." The Crawford Peace House site also features a photo of Eugene Bird, who has suggested that Israeli intelligence was responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

If so, Cindy will need more than donations...more like full-time 'Truth Bodyguards.'

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-15   12:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Eoghan (#28)

This has to be driving the Democrat party nuts. They want to embrace Sheehan because she's in oppostion to Bush but this issue is always off limits.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   12:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Zipporah (#29)

The Trotskyites like Willie Green are taking up the Leftist's slack...attack, attack, attack...

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-15   12:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Eoghan (#30)

The Trotskyites like Willie Green are taking up the Leftist's slack...attack, attack, attack...

Willie probably has no clue he's a tool.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   13:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Eoghan (#28)

Cindy Sheehan's Crowd

It turns out that the Crawford Peace House Web site includes a photo depicting the entire state of Israel as "Palestine," and it carries a link to a report that when Prime Minister Sharon visited Crawford, the "peace house" greeted him with an "800-foot-long banner containing all of the United Nations resolutions that Israel is in violation of." The Crawford Peace House site also features a photo of Eugene Bird, who has suggested that Israeli intelligence was responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

If so, Cindy will need more than donations...more like full-time 'Truth Bodyguards.'

This helps explain the vehemence of the smear campaign by some in MSM.

For example, the name calling like, "grief pimp". That's Michelle Malkin's description of Cindy Sheehan. Michelle, the daughter of asian immigrants, shall henceforth be known as the "war pimp", in honor of her own choice of words.
Michelle's words are a contribution of sorts, from her family to our nation.
Not quite the sacrifice that Cindy Sheehan's family has made.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-15   13:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Dakmar (#24)

Where can I rent a pig?

Hell, just buy a little porker. Try FReeperville first, then move over to LP if nothing strikes your fancy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-15   14:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Eoghan (#28)

I've just searched the website and I didn't see the Israel pic they're claiming is there. Do you see it? I know nothing about the banner when Sharon visited either.

The Crawford Peace House

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-15   14:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Zipporah (#31)

Willie probably has no clue he's a tool.

He doesn't seem bright enough to be a shill, so I would say you are correct.

Are we but an organic computer influenced by our environment to desire one set of neuropeptides over another, equating into competition for self worth on a primitive level never realized by the shallow and self empowering.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-08-15   14:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#34)

I've seen the sign pic...the timeline 'growth of Israel'...but the usual Trotsky's are confirming...and conforming...here's FreeRepublic:

To: nickcarraway Sheehan has been "outed" by conservative bloggers who now firmly connect her with the communist front and anti-war radical groups and anti-Semitic organizations like Peace House who focus on bashing Israel. These connections are now openly discussed by the likes of Fox and Byron York of NRO. The story is spreading. Her moment in the sun with her far left, America-hating, Democrat friends is drawing to a close. Move over Cindy, here comes the 9/11 cover-up story like it or not.

26 posted on 08/12/2005 8:13:23 AM PDT by Cautor [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-15   15:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull, Zipporah, Pissed Off Janitor, scooter, ALL (#33)

Alex just gave a report on his Crawford visit yesterday. Apparently, the bush/war supporters were out at Camp Casey and not at the Peace House where we were. Alex said there were about 8 of them. Try to catch the rebroadcast tonight. The conversations he had with them are very illuminating as are the descriptions of their dress, attitude, and manner (hint: bush cultists) particularly in contrast to those who were there in support of Cindy who are all supposed "freaky liberals."

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-15   15:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eoghan (#36)

uh huh. the usual smear tactics being employed. don't dare mention that "I" word. hey, if this is the case, then Rep Ron Paul is a commie and anti-semite too. they just can't handle the truthtellers.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-15   15:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#37)

Yep, I just heard it. Thanks. Cultist is the operative word. Alex seems to agree that many on the left fall within the "able to be educated" class. I cautiously agree. It's certainly worth a shot, since today's conservatives are nothing less than demonic.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-15   15:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#39)

Anyone who clings to a dogma in the face of irrefutable facts is a cultist, and that definitely describes both Democrats and Republicans.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-15   15:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)

Alex seems to agree that many on the left fall within the "able to be educated" class.

Even though I see myself as more of a conservative and used to associate myself with the Right. I tend to agree the Left is more likely to "come around" to the truth. The Right does seem to be demonic in their stance.

Are we but an organic computer influenced by our environment to desire one set of neuropeptides over another, equating into competition for self worth on a primitive level never realized by the shallow and self empowering.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-08-15   15:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Dakmar (#40)

No question about it. FReepers, et al, are cultists. They have their own unique culture, language and rigid rules. To defy RimJob, or their Leader, is to be stripped of dignity and status. Their vile treatment extends well into the offender's immediate family. Think Charlie Manson with an army, rather than a family.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-15   15:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#0)

It's clearly possible to be so far "right" that one becomes left. Congratulations on joining the Marxists.

DeepPockets  posted on  2005-08-15   15:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: timetobuildaboat (#41)

Exactly. We have a great opportunity to snap the L/R paradigm. The R's fear any unity opposing their agenda. For that reason alone, any chance at unity (on this issue) should be grabbed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-15   15:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: DeepPockets (#43)

Congratulations on joining the Marxists.

LOL. It's the neocons who blindly follow Trotskyites while calling for perpetual war.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-15   15:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: DeepPockets (#43)

It's clearly possible to be so far "right" that one becomes left. Congratulations on joining the Marxists.

You have locked yourself into a mindset that only allow two possibilities - the welfare state or the warfare state (Democreeps vs Republikuds) while people like Christine are calling your game a fraud.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-15   15:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: DeepPockets (#43)

t's clearly possible to be so far "right" that one becomes left. Congratulations on joining the Marxists.

Oh and congrats to you on the such a fine description of the Republican Party.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   15:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Zipporah (#47)

Some people are so caught in in right vs left they can't understand right vs wrong.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-15   15:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Dakmar (#48)

Some people are so caught in in right vs left they can't understand right vs wrong.

Oh, that's also very good.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-15   15:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: robin (#49)

Should have read "caught up in", but thanks.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-15   15:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Dakmar (#48)

Some people are so caught in in right vs left they can't understand right vs wrong.

good point. Hmm there is a scripture that gives a warning to those who do just that...

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;" Isa 5:20

And for those who like some who've posted here in recent days who portray themselves as one thing and turn around and lie ...

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come . . .

Evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse,

deceiving [speaking lies easily and convincingly] and being deceived."

2 Tim 3:1, 13

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   15:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Zipporah (#29)

This has to be driving the Democrat party nuts. They want to embrace Sheehan because she's in oppostion to Bush but this issue is always off limits.

Freeking no back bone Dems ain't going near her.

Of course it hurts, You're getting screwed by an elephant

justlurking  posted on  2005-08-15   18:29:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: justlurking (#52)

LOL!! Great pic~

There is no opposition party. The constituency just hasn't figured that out yet.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   18:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: DeepPockets, christine (#43)

Congratulations on joining the Marxists.

Christine has killed how many people in attepts to force her preferrered form of government on them? Sounds more like a Bush thing.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-15   19:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Zipporah (#51)

Scripture didn't phase the FReekers. The following post didn't get a reply, if anyone over there still had a Bible I'm sure Baylor Grad would be history.

CRAWFORD RALLY UPDATE: UPDATED INFO ON LOCATION OF THE RALLY: (link to new thread)

Posted by Baylor Grad to basil On News/Activism ^ 08/12/2005 4:26:21 PM EDT · 213 of 214 ^

Before you go, just be clear about which side your cheering for. Perhaps you might want to review:
Galatians 6:9-10
Romans 12:18
Matthew 5:9
John 18:36
Exodus 20:13
Romans 12:17,19
Acts 5:29
Matthew 5:38,44

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Hmmmmm  posted on  2005-08-15   19:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Hmmmmm (#55)

doncha just LOVE this one LOL

"You have a rendezvous with destiny. God Bless and God Bless Our Troops. "

Those people need major psychological help.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   20:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Hmmmmm (#55)

The following post didn't get a reply, if anyone over there still had a Bible I'm sure Baylor Grad would be history.

LOL

jeez, and to think i used to freep with these bush cultists. willfully stupefied. just like the clintonoids. do they question the wide open borders while we're fighting this 'war on terror' over there so we don't have to be fighting them here?

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-15   21:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: christine (#57)

do they question the wide open borders while we're fighting this 'war on terror' over there so we don't have to be fighting them here?

If we work out a deal with the airlines we could be fighting them here in a matter of months.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-15   21:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Zipporah (#56)

"You have a rendezvous with destiny. God Bless and God Bless Our Troops. "

I prefer "If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind."

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-15   21:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Eoghan (#59)

I prefer "If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind."

Works for me :P

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-15   21:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: robin (#21)

Alex has said that a few times. Was it New York he visited a year (maybe two) ago? I remember he was telling about how he was using his bullhorn to get his message out and he realized the crowd listening to him were mostly socialists, anarchists, communists and the lot. He noted that most of these folks recognize the government-military-industrial complex for what it is and they recognize government corruption for what it is but their answers were for more government control or the (total) absence thereof. He said he was happy to have people stand with him in protest and would worry about educating them on liberty, Bill of Rights, etc as a work in progress.

I caught Glen Beck for a few seconds this morning. He unleashed the phrase "tragedy slut" to describe Cindy Sheehan. It wasn't much longer after that I found a good CD to play. Probably should have done that to begin with or stuck with the local sports talk station.

scooter  posted on  2005-08-15   23:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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