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Title: The suppressed fact: Deaths by U.S. torture
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenw ... 6/30/accountability/index.html
Published: Jul 2, 2009
Author: Glenn Greenwald
Post Date: 2009-07-02 06:35:06 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 245
Comments: 25

(updated below)

After numerous delays sought by the Obama administration, it is expected that a 2004 CIA Inspector General's Report -- aggressively questioning both the efficacy and legality of Bush's interrogation tactics -- will be released tomorrow. A heavily redacted version of that document was already released by the Bush administration in response to an ACLU lawsuit and it remains to be seen how much new information will be included in tomorrow's version.

In anticipation of the release of that report, there is an important effort underway -- as part of the ACLU Accountability Project -- to correct a critically important deficiency in the public debate over torture and accountability. So often, the premise of media discussions of torture is that "torture" is something that was confined to a single tactic (waterboarding) and used only on three "high-value" detainees accused of being high-level Al Qaeda operatives. The reality is completely different.

The interrogation and detention regime implemented by the U.S. resulted in the deaths of over 100 detainees in U.S. custody -- at least. While some of those deaths were the result of "rogue" interrogators and agents, many were caused by the methods authorized at the highest levels of the Bush White House, including extreme stress positions, hypothermia, sleep deprivation and others. Aside from the fact that they cause immense pain, that's one reason we've always considered those tactics to be "torture" when used by others -- because they inflict serious harm, and can even kill people. Those arguing against investigations and prosecutions -- that we Look to the Future, not the Past -- are thus literally advocating that numerous people get away with murder.

The record could not be clearer regarding the fact that we caused numerous detainee deaths, many of which have gone completely uninvestigated and thus unpunished. Instead, the media and political class have misleadingly caused the debate to consist of the myth that these tactics were limited and confined. As Gen. Barry McCaffrey recently put it:

We should never, as a policy, maltreat people under our control, detainees. We tortured people unmercifully. We probably murdered dozens of them during the course of that, both the armed forces and the C.I.A.

Journalist and Human Rights Watch researcher John Sifton similarly documented that "approximately 100 detainees, including CIA-held detainees, have died during U.S. interrogations, and some are known to have been tortured to death."

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The ACLU has posted online numerous autopsy reports of detainee deaths in U.S. custody. These are documents prepared by the U.S. military, and they are as chilling as they are reflective of extreme criminality. Here are just a few illustrative examples (click on images to enlarge):

Autopsy ME-4309 -- 27 y/o male civilian - Mosul:

Autopsy A 03-51 -- 52 y/o male civilian -- Nasiriyah:

Autopsy ME 03-367 -- unknown age, Iraq:

A Daily Kos diarist today has more on these autopsy reports. Sifton describes numerous other cases of detainees tortured to death in U.S. custody:

* Jamal Naseer, a soldier in the Afghan Army, died after he and seven other soldiers were mistakenly arrested. Those arrested with Naseer later said that during interrogations U.S. personnel punched and kicked them, hung them upside down, and hit them with sticks or cables. Some said they were doused with cold water and forced to lie in the snow. Nasser collapsed about two weeks after the arrest, complaining of stomach pain, probably an internal hemorrhage. *

* In December 2003, a 44-year-old Iraqi man named Abu Malik Kenami died in a U.S. detention facility in Mosul, Iraq. As reported by Human Rights First, U.S. military personnel who examined Kenami when he first arrived at the facility determined that he had no preexisting medical conditions. Once in custody, as a disciplinary measure for talking, Kenami was forced to perform extreme amounts of exercise—a technique used across Afghanistan and Iraq. Then his hands were bound behind his back with plastic handcuffs, he was hooded, and forced to lie in an overcrowded cell. Kenami was found dead the morning after his arrest, still bound and hooded. *

* There may be other CIA homicides yet uncovered. One case of concern involves a detainee in the CIA’s detention program named Hassan Ghul, a Pakistani who was arrested in northern Iraq in January 2004. . . . I am starting to suspect that Ghul might be dead. After all, his name was redacted from the OLC memo, unlike that of other CIA detainees now at Guantánamo. Why would the CIA be afraid of mentioning Ghul? CIA doctors appear to have determined that Ghul was in poor health when he was captured, in fact, too unhealthy to be waterboarded. Unlike other former CIA detainees, human-rights groups have not confirmed that he was rendered to Pakistan or to a third country. Did the CIA perhaps torture Ghul to death? We do not know. He has now completely disappeared.

And from Human Rights First:

The cases also include that of Abed Hamed Mowhoush, a former Iraqi general beaten over days by U.S. Army, CIA and other non-military forces, stuffed into a sleeping bag, wrapped with electrical cord, and suffocated to death. In the recently concluded trial of a low-level military officer charged in Mowhoush’s death, the officer received a written reprimand, a fine, and 60 days with his movements limited to his work, home, and church.

As many documented cases of detainee deaths as there are, these deaths have almost certainly been under-counted, as the military and CIA have simply failed to investigate many obvious homicides or even falsely characterized them as natural deaths. As The Medscape Journal of Medicine explained after reviewing all of the available autopsy reports of detainee deaths:

In a well-publicized death of an Iraqi general that resulted from trauma and asphyxiation, the on-site surgeon ruled the death "natural."[11] On review at autopsy, this death was eventually classified as homicide by the Office of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner.[8] According to the Church Investigation Report, in at least 3 deaths, "medical personnel may have attempted to misrepresent the circumstances of abuse, possibly in an effort to disguise detainee abuse."[21]

In the case of Kenami, detailed above by Sifton, this is what happened in the aftermath of his death:

No autopsy was conducted; no official cause of death was determined. After the Abu Ghraib scandal, a review of Kenami’s death was launched, and Army reviewers criticized the initial criminal investigation for failing to conduct an autopsy; interview interrogators, medics, or detainees present at the scene of the death; and collect physical evidence. To date, however, the Army has taken no known action in the case.

Needless to say, there has been very little accountability even for the deaths which the U.S. military itself acknowledges are homicides, as Human Rights First documented:

Since August 2002, nearly 100 detainees have died while in the hands of U.S. officials in the global “war on terror.” According to the U.S. military’s own classifications, 34 of these cases are suspected or confirmed homicides; Human Rights First has identified another 11 in which the facts suggest death as a result of physical abuse or harsh conditions of detention. . . .

Despite these numbers, four years since the first known death in U.S. custody, only 12 detainee deaths have resulted in punishment of any kind for any U.S. official. Of the 34 homicide cases so far identified by the military, investigators recommended criminal charges in fewer than two thirds, and charges were actually brought (based on decisions made by command) in less than half. While the CIA has been implicated in several deaths, not one CIA agent has faced a criminal charge. Crucially, among the worst cases in this list – those of detainees tortured to death – only half have resulted in punishment; the steepest sentence for anyone involved in a torture-related death: five months in jail.

* * * * *

It's not uncommon, of course, for our political debates to be distorted. But discussions over torture and accountability have descended to a new level. The picture that is most commonly conveyed -- that torture was confined to a small handful of cases, was highly regulated, and resulted in no long-lasting harm -- is pure propaganda, completely false. The reality -- that our "interrogation tactics" killed numerous detainees, who, by definition, are people confined helplessly in our custody, virtually none of whom has been convicted of anything, and at least some of whom are completely innocent -- is virtually never heard as part of these debates. It's vital that this changes. Tomorrow's likely release of a new version of the incriminating CIA IG Report provides an excellent opportunity for that finally to happen.

[Thank you to everyone who particpated in the fund-raiser I held here last week. The response was very enthusiastic and it was quite successful. I tried to send personal emails thanking everyone who contributed, but it's possible that Paypal irregularties, email errors or personal oversight may have caused some to fall through the cracks, so I'll take this opportunity to express my sincere appreciation. I hope and expect that it will enable me to take steps that will improve the impact and efficiency of what I do here in several ways.]

UPDATE: British journalist Andy Worthington has a superb and richly detailed examination of numerous other detainee deaths, with an emphasis on the clear link between those deaths and the tactics approved by Bush officials.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

UPDATE: British journalist Andy Worthington has a superb and richly detailed examination of numerous other detainee deaths, with an emphasis on the clear link between those deaths and the tactics approved by Bush officials.

Done not just by bush officials but approved by bush himself. That's right! bush the draft dodging, dope smoking,booze hound chickenhawk. I wonder how many realize this shit is still going on under obanger and will be visited upon us when they deem it necessary. It is coming to America and Americans.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-07-02   7:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

In the recently concluded trial of a low-level military officer charged in Mowhoush’s death, the officer received a written reprimand, a fine, and 60 days with his movements limited to his work, home, and church.

Mustn't interfere with him worshiping his "god". He must be a calvinist.

Lord, how much longer are we going to have to put up with their shit?

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-02   8:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#2)

Mustn't interfere with him worshiping his "god". He must be a calvinist.

It is the Armenian scum (including Roman Catholics who are hyper-Armenians, i.e. semi-Pelagians) that are deservedly renowned for their fondness for torture.

Your ad hominem and off-topic libel on Calvinists is grossly misinformed.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-02   8:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#3)

Your ad hominem and off-topic libel on Calvinists is grossly misinformed.

No it isn't.

What's the harm in a little torture when calvinists believe people are predestined to be tortured for eternity? It's gods' (that's not a typo) justice, right?

http://www.answers.com/topic/john-calvin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Gruet (Good job Calvin. You made a great witness. You were years ahead if your time. You would have made a dandy CIA interrogator)

Calvin was scum. So it should come as no surprise that some of these "christians" support torture. And it should not come as any surprise that these military thugs would go to church after a hard day of beating the fuck out of people or just murdering them by torturing them to death.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-02   9:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA (#4)

Calvin was not responsible for the actions of the Geneva council, a political group that ruled Genevan civil matters. The Geneva council ignored Calvin several times on matters like the execution of Servetus, when Calvin plead for a far less gruesome death than the one which council inflicted. At any rate, Servetus was going to be executed since both Protestants and Catholics across Europe were united in condemning him as a gross heretic which is exactly what he was. Servetus simply got caught in Geneva.

I don't think you grasp that the early portion of the Reformation still had seen no division whatsoever between religious law and civil law. To be guilty of heresy was to be executed by the civil arm for flouting the religious laws forbidding it.

You seem to be judging the era (and Calvin) by modern standards, not the standards of the time. The idea of separation of church and state was entirely alien to Europe at the time, much as it is an alien concept in modern Islamic states.

Interesting you single out Calvin and only Calvin for such contempt when the other Protestant churches and, most certainly, the Catholic church of the era were far more guilty of torture, murder, intrigue, etc. Naturally, Calvinists are well-acquainted with this strange double-standard and we are accustomed to the libels repeated by uninformed persons.

What's the harm in a little torture when calvinists believe people are predestined to be tortured for eternity? It's gods' (that's not a typo) justice, right?

You seem grossly uninformed or poorly read.

Actually, you seem to be muddling the doctrine of single-predestination with double-predestination. It is the double version that you would likely find most offensive.

Of course, Calvinists are not united in their view of the matter either, not that that will make any difference to a cut-and-paste attacker like yourself.

As for eternal damnation, it is Christian doctrine, whether you are Armenian or Calvinist. The difference is in the soteriology and the overrated idea that human will is supreme.

Let me point out that merely because man has free will does not mean that God does not have free will.

All of man's choices are foreknown and folded into God's own plan which will be fulfilled on His own timetable. This would be a simplistic explanation but it will do.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-02   13:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative, PSUSA (#5)

You seem grossly uninformed or poorly read.

Is that a prescribed form of social interaction in "How to Win Friends and Influence People".

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-02   13:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#5)

You seem to be judging the era (and Calvin) by modern standards, not the standards of the time. The idea of separation of church and state was entirely alien to Europe at the time, much as it is an alien concept in modern Islamic states.

Thats not the first time I heard that argument. I'm sure it wont be the last.

Where did Christ ever condone murder? Please provide book chapter and verse.

And the kicker is: Christ was on Earth 1500+ years BEFORE Calvin and other like-minded satanists. Calvin was a modern man next to Christ and the church fathers. They had 1500 years to progress. You'd think that Christs teachings would be able to be understood after 1500 years, right? Wrong.

So dont' even start in with the "You seem to be judging the era" nonsense.

Interesting you single out Calvin and only Calvin for such contempt when the other Protestant churches and, most certainly, the Catholic church of the era were far more guilty of torture, murder, intrigue, etc. Naturally, Calvinists are well-acquainted with this strange double-standard and we are accustomed to the libels repeated by uninformed persons.

I think I have shown sufficient contempt for both protestant and catholic teachings, in other postings. The whole thing is rotten to the core.

So, because the catholics and other protestants murdered and tortured, that excuses the calvinists. Right. They just weren't as bad, right?

But it is not just the worldly torture that the calvinists were guilty of, it's the idea of the Creator God torturing the vast majority of His people for all eternity, and then having the unmitigated and undiluted gall to call that "Gods' Justice". And not just that, but that God knew ahead of time who would end up being tortured in real fire for all time.

A calvinist has more in common with satanism than Christianity.


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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-02   14:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA (#7)

And the kicker is: Christ was on Earth 1500+ years BEFORE Calvin and other like-minded satanists. Calvin was a modern man next to Christ and the church fathers.

Suggesting that Calvin was somehow a part of the Genevan civil authority is like suggesting that Jesus and his disciples were part of the Sanhedrin.

You don't seem to understand the social and political history of either era very well.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-03   18:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative, PSUSA (#8)

You don't seem to understand the social and political history of either era very well.

Lay your expertise with eugenics on PS, really snow him under.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-03   18:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#8) (Edited)

Suggesting that Calvin was somehow a part of the Genevan civil authority is like suggesting that Jesus and his disciples were part of the Sanhedrin.

I suggested nothing. I flat out stated that Calvin was scum that thought nothing of torturing and murdering people for no other reason than they believed differently than he did. I was quite explicit. I rarely "suggest" anything.

The "social and political history of either era" does not excuse anything.

Show me book, chapter and verse that says "social and political history of either era" is a valid excuse for torture and murder.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-03   18:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#9)

Lay your expertise with eugenics on PS, really snow him under.

I've been this route with calvinists before. One thing is for certain. Even more certain than the sun rising in the east tomorrow morning, and that is that they never snow me under. Not one single time.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-03   18:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA (#11)

Agreed.

Too loves eugenics.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-03   18:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

Too loves eugenics.

That doesn't surprise me.

If that is so, I could ask him/her for scriptural references supporting that, but he/she would only ignore it. And, it couldn't be answered anyway and he / she knows it.

It's amazing to see how many "christians" love death.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-03   19:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA (#10)

I flat out stated that Calvin was scum that thought nothing of torturing and murdering people for no other reason than they believed differently than he did.

And yet, no one else seems to know of this Hitler-like Calvin you write about.

Your opinions are pretty isolated. I assume that is why you're so bitter and so reckless with the facts.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-04   4:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#12)

Too loves eugenics.

That's not true.

I don't believe you can improve humanity through genetics.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-04   4:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#15)

That's not true.

Dont be bashful. Stand by your statements you post here.

If you like I will re post your stated views about the gene pool etc etc.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-04   6:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#16)

Post away, dillweed.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-04   8:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#17)

dillweed.

Noun 1. dill weed - aromatic threadlike foliage of the dill plant used as seasoning dill herb - aromatic potherb used in cookery for its savory qualities Anethum graveolens, dill - aromatic Old World herb having aromatic threadlike foliage and seeds used as seasoning.

Good heavens, are you trying to be..NICE...

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-04   8:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative, all (#14)

And yet, no one else seems to know of this Hitler-like Calvin you write about.

Your opinions are pretty isolated. I assume that is why you're so bitter and so reckless with the facts.

Dont assume. It only makes an ass out of you.

I find your comments to be typical. Instead of addressing the points made, you say I'm just bitter and reckless with the facts.

#1, it's not bitterness, it's disgust. Complete and total disgust.

#2, if I was reckless with the facts, then someone as smart as you surely would have proven them to be wrong, right out in the open, therefore putting me in my place so I would then just try and sneak away. You didn't do that, because you cant.

If people dont know about Calvin, it's because they haven't looked up info on that rabid wolf, they aren't interested. Or, they agree with him. Which makes them just as bad as he was.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-04   8:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA (#19)

#2, if I was reckless with the facts, then someone as smart as you surely would have proven them to be wrong, right out in the open, therefore putting me in my place so I would then just try and sneak away. You didn't do that, because you cant.

Ah, I think I have identified the problem.

You assume, mistakenly, that I care that much about your libels and uninformed opinions. Maybe you should stick to your posts that are actually valuable. Have you reported on this recent police brutality outrage, for instance?

4um is not a forum for theologicial debate. I can't imagine why you even included your off-topic screed against Calvinism on this thread (as though the average 4um poster would even have the faintest clue of Calvinist theology or its history to begin with. Hell, 4um is so obscure that mounting a serious argument here on most topics is futile. 4um is far more suited to its core ideology, primarily that which in other forums would be labeled racist or antisemitic.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-04   11:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative (#20)

You assume, mistakenly, that I care that much about your libels and uninformed opinions. Maybe you should stick to your posts that are actually valuable. Have you reported on this recent police brutality outrage, for instance?

Again, you assume that I assume. You sure do like to assume things.

If you don't care, then dont respond. Simple, huh? There's plenty of posts I dont read or respond to. It's not a reflection on the poster, but the topic.

4um is not a forum for theologicial debate.

I didn't know you owned 4um.

It's a first amendment forum. Free speech, things like that. Heretics seem to be welcome here. We are a motley bunch.

I don't care about theological debate. Theology is the study of techniques on how to twist and misrepresent scriptures to the point that it is totally unrecognizable. It takes years to learn how to do that.

I can't imagine why you even included your off-topic screed against Calvinism on this thread

Because the military thug was allowed access to church. Murder and torture fit calvinism like a glove. I cant imagine any church welcoming a punk like that. Unless it is calvinist, in which case they have much in common.

Hell, 4um is so obscure that mounting a serious argument here on most topics is futile.

I have yet to see you mount any serious arguments. But I dont read everything.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-04   12:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PSUSA (#21)

Theology is the study of techniques on how to twist and misrepresent scriptures to the point that it is totally unrecognizable.

Your ignorance about systematic theology and why there has been an evident need for it for over fifteen hundred years is simply appalling.

Fortunately, no sound church ever listens to loons like you.

Because the military thug was allowed access to church. Murder and torture fit calvinism like a glove. I cant imagine any church welcoming a punk like that. Unless it is calvinist, in which case they have much in common.

Other than your own hysterical libels, I know of no one, even the most strident Armenians, who seriously suggest anything against Calvin that resembles your bizarre accusations. And it's not my fault that you've gone so far out on a limb and sawed it off behind you.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-04   13:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TooConservative (#22)

Your ignorance about systematic theology and why there has been an evident need for it for over fifteen hundred years is simply appalling.

Uh huh. Things have improved markedly thanks to "systematic theology". LOL! They sure set things straight, didn't they?

Fortunately, no sound church ever listens to loons like you.

Not only would they not listen to me, they would put me out of the synagogue, forthwith and with great haste, with pitchforks and torches chasing me down the street. I rejoice in that. I love it. I would not have it any other way. Thank you Jesus!

After 1500 or more properly almost 2000 years, nothing was learned. It's amazing how dense people are. Or rather just how blinded they are.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-04   13:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PSUSA (#23) (Edited)

Ah, so that then summarizes how Jean Chauvin, despite being dead for centuries and largely unknown to American Christians, was nevertheless the torturer-in-chief during the Bush era.

Thanks for clarifying all that.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-07-04   19:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ada (#0)

Those arguing against investigations and prosecutions -- that we Look to the Future, not the Past -- are thus literally advocating that numerous people get away with murder.

Why not? Bush walked when we all know that he should have stood before a War Crimes Tribunal and then marched out to a convenient wall to be interviewed by 6 good marksmen.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-04   19:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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