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Title: Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About 'Global Governance'
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URL Source: http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/ ... -Bring-About-Global-Governance
Published: Jul 11, 2009
Author: Marc Morano
Post Date: 2009-07-11 09:29:02 by christine
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Views: 1181
Comments: 135

Former Vice President Al Gore declared that the Congressional climate bill will help bring about “global governance.”

“I bring you good news from the U.S., “Gore said on July 7, 2009 in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment, sponsored by UK Times.

“Just two weeks ago, the House of Representatives passed the Waxman-Markey climate bill,” Gore said, noting it was “very much a step in the right direction.” President Obama has pushed for the passage of the bill in the Senate and attended a G8 summit this week where he agreed to attempt to keep the Earth's temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees C.

Gore touted the Congressional climate bill, claiming it “will dramatically increase the prospects for success” in combating what he sees as the “crisis” of man-made global warming.

“But it is the awareness itself that will drive the change and one of the ways it will drive the change is through global governance and global agreements.” (Editor's Note: Gore makes the “global governance” comment at the 1min. 10 sec. mark in this UK Times video.)

Gore's call for “global governance” echoes former French President Jacques Chirac's call in 2000.

On November 20, 2000, then French President Chirac said during a speech at The Hague that the UN's Kyoto Protocol represented "the first component of an authentic global governance."

“For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance,” Chirac explained. “From the very earliest age, we should make environmental awareness a major theme of education and a major theme of political debate, until respect for the environment comes to be as fundamental as safeguarding our rights and freedoms. By acting together, by building this unprecedented instrument, the first component of an authentic global governance, we are working for dialogue and peace,” Chirac added.

Former EU Environment Minister Margot Wallstrom said, "Kyoto is about the economy, about leveling the playing field for big businesses worldwide." Canadian Prime Minster Stephen Harper once dismissed UN's Kyoto Protocol as a “socialist scheme.”

'Global Carbon Tax' Urged at UN Meeting

In addition, calls for a global carbon tax have been urged at recent UN global warming conferences. In December 2007, the UN climate conference in Bali, urged the adoption of a global carbon tax that would represent “a global burden sharing system, fair, with solidarity, and legally binding to all nations.”

“Finally someone will pay for these [climate related] costs,” Othmar Schwank, a global tax advocate, said at the 2007 UN conference after a panel titled “A Global CO2 Tax.”

Schwank noted that wealthy nations like the U.S. would bear the biggest burden based on the “polluters pay principle.” The U.S. and other wealthy nations need to “contribute significantly more to this global fund,” Schwank explained. He also added, “It is very essential to tax coal.”

The 2007 UN conference was presented with a report from the Swiss Federal Office for the Environment titled “Global Solidarity in Financing Adaptation.” The report stated there was an “urgent need” for a global tax in order for “damages [from climate change] to be kept from growing to truly catastrophic levels, especially in vulnerable countries of the developing world.”

The tens of billions of dollars per year generated by a global tax would “flow into a global Multilateral Adaptation Fund” to help nations cope with global warming, according to the report.

Schwank said a global carbon dioxide tax is an idea long overdue that is urgently needed to establish “a funding scheme which generates the resources required to address the dimension of challenge with regard to climate change costs.”

'Redistribution of wealth'

The environmental group Friends of the Earth advocated the transfer of money from rich to poor nations during the 2007 UN climate conference.

"A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources,” said Emma Brindal, a climate justice campaigner coordinator for Friends of the Earth.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

IT was this AGW mess that made me realize people were right about the shadow government and NWO.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-11   12:05:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

So Al Gore is the single mantra, drum beater dancing in the streets that made you realize that something was wrong in America?

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-11   12:14:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#2)

So Al Gore is the single mantra, drum beater dancing in the streets that made you realize that something was wrong in America?

Smart ass. No, it was the over all global push, and who was pushing, with no supporting science.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-11   12:19:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#4)

No, it was the over all global push, and who was pushing, with no supporting science.

Actually, there is a lot of data to support global warming trends. I don't necessarily believe the major contributor based upon carbon emissions from human technology though. It there is a large number of inputs to the phenomena and human technology is easily modified to change our contributions without government intervention, much less some fantastic boon-dongle bureaucratic mess that is far removed from local geographical areas.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-11   12:30:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#8)

Actually, there is a lot of data to support global warming trends. I don't necessarily believe the major contributor based upon carbon emissions from human technology though. It there is a large number of inputs to the phenomena and human technology is easily modified to change our contributions without government intervention, much less some fantastic boon-dongle bureaucratic mess that is far removed from local geographical areas.

Except that the science doesn't support that either. First, man's contributions are a drop in the bucket and thus irrelevant. That said, the assumption that an increase in carbon emission, anthropogenic or natural, is bad is also a false notion created by the global elite who wish to garner more control and establish the NWO. CO2 is at historic lows for the planet. An increase in CO2 is actually desired, not only for man's benefit but for plants which are a main driving factor in the food chain. There is some anecdotal evidence that the increase in world food production is due to the increase in atmospheric CO2. History has proven that warm periods are beneficial to human culture and growth. The scientific evidence also shows that CO2 increases follow warming.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-11   14:15:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend (#15)

CO2 is at historic lows for the planet.

Cough, spit and BS. Ever see the amazing benefits about American industry (uses about 25% of all non renewable energy from around the world) hoovering over major population centers? Smog was rampant through the 40s - 70s in America.

Today, smog is decreasing but it is still prevalent in the atmosphere. It is composed largely of CO2 which is a major by-product of energy use, particularly with carbon based fuels such as oil and gasoline. Smog pollution has been identified by most as particulate matter suspended in the release of CO2 emissions; but smog is really CO2.

Ever since the belching plumbs, as by the Iron Horses, of smoke during the early days of the industrial revolution since the mid 1800s, CO2 has been steadily increasing.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-11   14:50:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#19)

Cough, spit and BS. Ever see the amazing benefits about American industry (uses about 25% of all non renewable energy from around the world) hoovering over major population centers? Smog was rampant through the 40s - 70s in America.

Today, smog is decreasing but it is still prevalent in the atmosphere. It is composed largely of CO2 which is a major by-product of energy use, particularly with carbon based fuels such as oil and gasoline. Smog pollution has been identified by most as particulate matter suspended in the release of CO2 emissions; but smog is really CO2.

Ever since the belching plumbs, as by the Iron Horses, of smoke during the early days of the industrial revolution since the mid 1800s, CO2 has been steadily increasing.

Ah my dear, you need to stop drinking that Kool-Aide and learn the real facts and history of CO2. BTW, there is one country that has bypassed the US in CO2 production and the US had less growth in emissions than all the countries who signed and implemented Kyoto.

I'll get you hooked up with the science if you wish. My knowledge and access has grown since our days of posting at LP.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-11   16:07:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: farmfriend (#25)

Ah my dear

I am flattered by your personal compliment hugging me.

The rates of human consumption stripping the environment for energy and food and other resources is unsustainable. Governments can't sustain the lack of resources around the world by legislation. And believing in an infinite playground unfettered by 6.7Bn people on the planet isn't either.

For America to get back on track about the nation is to diminish personal energy consumption and forget this crazy idea of unsustainable growth rates which has destroyed America's quality of life.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-11   16:45:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: grace_is_by_our_lord, farmfriend (#29)

The rates of human consumption stripping the environment for energy and food and other resources is unsustainable. Governments can't sustain the lack of resources around the world by legislation. And believing in an infinite playground unfettered by 6.7Bn people on the planet isn't either.

For America to get back on track about the nation is to diminish personal energy consumption and forget this crazy idea of unsustainable growth rates which has destroyed America's quality of life.

This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-11   19:55:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: wudidiz (#62)

This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more.

Under whose rule shall ensure the unsustainable characteristics you side with? Al Gore begging for Global governance policies with blue hemeted troops by the UN policing your ass at the local 7-11?

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   1:45:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#82)

This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more.

Under whose rule shall ensure the unsustainable characteristics you side with? Al Gore begging for Global governance policies with blue hemeted troops by the UN policing your ass at the local 7-11?

I'm just being realistic and honest. You have sided with the evil ones advocating depopulation and eugenics. There's no honor in jumping on the Global Warming bandwagon just because you think can back up your silly argument with thousands of bought and paid for 'Scientific' reports and studies. Get real.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   2:13:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: wudidiz (#85)

This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more. -- wudidiz

ROTFL.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   2:53:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#88)

This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more. -- wudidiz

Thank you, pass it on.

For America to get back on track about the nation is to diminish personal energy consumption and forget this crazy idea of unsustainable growth rates which has destroyed America's quality of life.~ grace_is_by_our_lord

The psychotic control freaks love your sort of thinking.

Good to know who's side you're on.

Oh yeah, don't exhale. That's deadly carbon dioxide coming out of your mouth.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   3:14:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: wudidiz (#95)

Just realize, I want no government interference in my life. And in order to do that, we need to control ourselves, own culture, families and friends by exercising moderate methods of responsible behavior about our birthrights with respect and an educated perspective based upon fact not just hearsay.

Otherwise you are begging for BIG_GOVERNMENT to be in your hip pocket.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   3:21:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#97)

and an educated perspective based upon fact not just hearsay.

Hmmm, there go the climate models.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-12   3:31:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: farmfriend (#99)

Nothing wrong with computer simulation models based upon relevant data, is there? The goal is to project methods of accurate forecasts; that is to say, to learn about the world around us synthesizing (wherein possible) ways to enhance our own quality of life.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   3:44:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#101)

Nothing wrong with computer simulation models based upon relevant data, is there?

the problem with using them for climate predictions is they really have no clue what is relevant data and mostly they just guess at it. I've seen I don't know how many discussions with Gavin Schmidt over this very thing. The climate models are not accurate and we should not be basing government policy or even lifestyle changes on them. I would rather go with Piers Corbyn's weather predictions. They are based on real data and much more accurate.

Relevant data I can live with. I get that from Timo.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-07-12   4:00:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: farmfriend (#105)

The climate models are not accurate and we should not be basing government policy or even lifestyle changes on them.

I agree. And if you are keen (and you are) I have not argued about government policy being based upon anything other than hands off of the economy and energy and food.

Sincerely, if more people ate out of their own backyards growing their own crops and fish, beef and chicken we probably wouldn't see a need for further government control about our lives as Al Gore "professes" with his global governance jargon.

But, then again that doesn't mean much as most people don't have a pot to piss in much less run out of government provided food stamps so as to ensure their meaningless lives as they can't fend for themselves.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   4:11:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#108)

Productivity matters more than other statistical measures because it demonstrates we’re doing more with less. That’s why, for example, starvation is a political disaster, not a natural one. There’s literally too much food in the world. There’s also plenty of land left. You could move the entire world population inside medium-sized homes and they’d all fit inside Texas, yielding a population density similar to that of Paris. Johah Goldberg ~ Circa 2008

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   4:16:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: wudidiz (#110)

Where is all this food? Is it buried somewhere in the California central valley? Or is it perhaps located around the world in sparse amounts wherein Obama just met with the G8 in providing billions of dollars for additional food relief and methods of farming for poor and impoverished nations?

There is no reason why the US government needs to steal from it's own citizens unless there is a clear and recognizable issue that you are blind to.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   4:27:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#114)

Where is all this food? I

It's a distribution problem. The government has alot to do with that.

The same government that you say you are against but yet agree with the ideas they feed you like overpopulation, global warming, eugenics, Oil shortage, water shortage, etc...

If everyone, like you say had a garden, or land was allocated to grow food for people the starvation thing would be solved. If water was properly distributed, people would have enough. There's no shortage of land. Oil is not made by dinosaurs.

Killing people or slowing population growth is the right of no man or woman.

Because it seems like a good idea because that's what you were taught doesn't make it a good idea. Think for yourself.

I love your tagline.

Keep up the posting.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   4:40:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: wudidiz (#119)

It's a distribution problem. The government has alot to do with that.

Huh?

It is a natural resource issue, not just some Marxist exploitation of methods of distribution. And why should MY government be involved at all? I didn't elect so-called leaders to steal from me and re-distribute my wealth to those that could care less.

You can't legislate resources. I mean, you can try all you want or believe all you want but that's just about as fanciful as believing in the tooth faerie. Natural resources can be channeled and taxed by legislation but never created.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   4:49:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#122)

Your government is involved. I never said anything about re-distribution of your 'wealth'.

It's involved in policies that are aimed at killing us. Policies that you apparently agree with.

You didn't elect anyone.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   4:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: wudidiz (#124)

Policies that you apparently agree with.

I find your sense of perspective strange, at best. Throughout this whole thread there are breadcrumbs wherein I have dotted the i's and crossed the t's irrelevant of government control and methodology.

You seem to think that an infinite amount of natural resources are at our disposal. So administers your infinite amount of resources besides God? Al Gore? Some self-appointed Frankenstein monster unable to declare "individual rights and freedoms" while shouting to high-heaven that global governance is required to rule us all?

Gore's opinion is about lack of respect for the environment. He wants nothing to do with it other than playing some form of planetary God, with an infinite income stream.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   5:05:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#126)

I find your sense of perspective strange, at best.

Yours is cute but flawed.

You seem to think that an infinite amount of natural resources are at our disposal.

If I remember right, ample was the word I used. That and more than enough or something like that. Check your tagline.

Gore's opinion is about lack of respect for the environment.

It's about global governance.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   5:14:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: wudidiz (#128)

If I remember right, ample was the word I used

I think the world of this by-line. It's just too kewl.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-07-12   5:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#130) (Edited)

I think the world of this by-line. It's just too kewl.

Thank you Ma'am.

I'm honored.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   5:23:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: All (#132)

warofillusions.wordpress....gory/overpopulation-myth/

Billionaires Rockefeller, Gates, Buffett, Soros, Winfrey in hush-hush discussion on how to curb world population growth May 25, 2009 — Stefan Fobes

Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation America’s richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a ‘disastrous’ environmental, social and industrial threat

5.24.09 / John Harlow / UK Sunday Times Online

SOME of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education.

The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change.

Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.

These members, along with Gates, have given away more than £45 billion since 1996 to causes ranging from health programmes in developing countries to ghetto schools nearer to home.

They gathered at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, a British Nobel prize biochemist and president of the private Rockefeller University, in Manhattan on May 5. The informal afternoon session was so discreet that some of the billionaires’ aides were told they were at “security briefings”.

Stacy Palmer, editor of the Chronicle of Philanthropy, said the summit was unprecedented. “We only learnt about it afterwards, by accident. Normally these people are happy to talk good causes, but this is different – maybe because they don’t want to be seen as a global cabal,” he said.

Some details were emerging this weekend, however. The billionaires were each given 15 minutes to present their favourite cause. Over dinner they discussed how they might settle on an “umbrella cause” that could harness their interests.

The issues debated included reforming the supervision of overseas aid spending to setting up rural schools and water systems in developing countries. Taking their cue from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority.

This could result in a challenge to some Third World politicians who believe contraception and female education weaken traditional values.

Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.

At a conference in Long Beach, California, last February, he had made similar points. “Official projections say the world’s population will peak at 9.3 billion [up from 6.6 billion today] but with charitable initiatives, such as better reproductive healthcare, we think we can cap that at 8.3 billion,” Gates said then.

Patricia Stonesifer, former chief executive of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which gives more than £2 billion a year to good causes, attended the Rockefeller summit. She said the billionaires met to “discuss how to increase giving” and they intended to “continue the dialogue” over the next few months.

Another guest said there was “nothing as crude as a vote” but a consensus emerged that they would back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.

“This is something so nightmarish that everyone in this group agreed it needs big-brain answers,” said the guest. “They need to be independent of government agencies, which are unable to head off the disaster we all see looming.”

Why all the secrecy? “They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government,” he said.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   5:33:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: grace_is_by_our_lord, All (#133)

Abiotic Oil Theory: The Bane of Enviro-Marxists

What would happen if it were proven that “fossil fuels” weren’t the result of decaying plant and animal matter, were actually created within the Earth due to simple chemistry and you could not be scared into believing that we were “running out” of oil and natural gas? Why, you would have a lot of people who are banking on that strategy to convince you to accept government control and mandates over how energy is used going back to square one and looking for another way to institute a populist, socialist agenda.

Scientists who have confirmed that abiotic hydrocarbons are being released from the Lost City hydrothermal field in the Mid-Atlantic range at the bottom of the ocean say they are returning to that location this summer to try to confirm the presence of more complex hydrocarbon chains, a result that would further undermine the assumption that oils are the result of decomposed and compressed organisms.”We looked for C1-C4 hydrocarbons – alkanes, alkenes and alkynes – and detected them all,” Giora Proskurowski, the marine geochemist who headed the Woods Hole team that already has done work at the Lost City site, told WND in an e-mail.

“Last year we did not look for more advanced hydrocarbon chains, but this year we will use the sampling methods required to identify more complex hydrocarbons,” he said.

As WND reported, Proskurowski, of the School of Oceanography at the University of Washington in Seattle, wrote in Science Magazine that Lost City vents at the bottom of the Atlantic were exuding abiotic hydrocarbons formed in the mantle of the earth.

Proskurowski attributed the formation of the observed hydrocarbons to processes identified by the Fischer-Tropsch type (FTT) equations first discovered by Nazi German scientists trying to generate synthetic oil from coal prior to the start of World War II.

Think this is all wishful thinking? You would be right to be skeptical. It’s healthy to be so.  But let’s give you a little bit of supporting evidence for the abiotic theory that you might not know about:

The organic theory of the origin of oil suffered a major blow when NASA announced a probe sent to the surface of Titan, the giant moon of Saturn, had discovered Titan was full of Carbon-13 methane.Carbon-13 is the isotope of carbon associated with abiotic generation, compared to carbon-12 which is generally associated with organic origins.

So unless you can come up with evidence that at one time there was life on Titan, those hydrocarbons had to come from somewhere. You an put 2 and 2 together and get the right answer. But if you choose to believe that its 5 (i.e. that “fossil fuels” are only created from “dead things”) that is your own ignorant choice.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-07-12   6:06:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#135. To: wudidiz (#134)

My child's chemistry professor is teaching this theory pretty much as fact now. Of course, it IS a private school. The final score in pre-AP Chemistry was 106.

IndieTX  posted on  2009-07-12 06:30:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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