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Title: Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About 'Global Governance'
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URL Source: http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/ ... -Bring-About-Global-Governance
Published: Jul 11, 2009
Author: Marc Morano
Post Date: 2009-07-11 09:29:02 by christine
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Views: 1231
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Former Vice President Al Gore declared that the Congressional climate bill will help bring about “global governance.” “I bring you good news from the U.S., “Gore said on July 7, 2009 in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment, sponsored by UK Times. “Just two weeks ago, the House of Representatives passed the Waxman-Markey climate bill,” Gore said, noting it was “very much a step in the right direction.” President Obama has pushed for the passage of the bill in the Senate and attended a G8 summit this week where he agreed to attempt to keep the Earth's temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees C. Gore touted the Congressional climate bill, claiming it “will dramatically increase the prospects for success” in combating what he sees as the “crisis” of man-made global warming. “But it is the awareness itself that will drive the change and one of the ways it will drive the change is through global governance and global agreements.” (Editor's Note: Gore makes the “global governance” comment at the 1min. 10 sec. mark in this UK Times video.) Gore's call for “global governance” echoes former French President Jacques Chirac's call in 2000. On November 20, 2000, then French President Chirac said during a speech at The Hague that the UN's Kyoto Protocol represented "the first component of an authentic global governance." “For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance,” Chirac explained. “From the very earliest age, we should make environmental awareness a major theme of education and a major theme of political debate, until respect for the environment comes to be as fundamental as safeguarding our rights and freedoms. By acting together, by building this unprecedented instrument, the first component of an authentic global governance, we are working for dialogue and peace,” Chirac added. Former EU Environment Minister Margot Wallstrom said, "Kyoto is about the economy, about leveling the playing field for big businesses worldwide." Canadian Prime Minster Stephen Harper once dismissed UN's Kyoto Protocol as a “socialist scheme.” 'Global Carbon Tax' Urged at UN Meeting In addition, calls for a global carbon tax have been urged at recent UN global warming conferences. In December 2007, the UN climate conference in Bali, urged the adoption of a global carbon tax that would represent “a global burden sharing system, fair, with solidarity, and legally binding to all nations.” “Finally someone will pay for these [climate related] costs,” Othmar Schwank, a global tax advocate, said at the 2007 UN conference after a panel titled “A Global CO2 Tax.” Schwank noted that wealthy nations like the U.S. would bear the biggest burden based on the “polluters pay principle.” The U.S. and other wealthy nations need to “contribute significantly more to this global fund,” Schwank explained. He also added, “It is very essential to tax coal.” The 2007 UN conference was presented with a report from the Swiss Federal Office for the Environment titled “Global Solidarity in Financing Adaptation.” The report stated there was an “urgent need” for a global tax in order for “damages [from climate change] to be kept from growing to truly catastrophic levels, especially in vulnerable countries of the developing world.” The tens of billions of dollars per year generated by a global tax would “flow into a global Multilateral Adaptation Fund” to help nations cope with global warming, according to the report. Schwank said a global carbon dioxide tax is an idea long overdue that is urgently needed to establish “a funding scheme which generates the resources required to address the dimension of challenge with regard to climate change costs.” 'Redistribution of wealth' The environmental group Friends of the Earth advocated the transfer of money from rich to poor nations during the 2007 UN climate conference. "A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources,” said Emma Brindal, a climate justice campaigner coordinator for Friends of the Earth.
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#44. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#40)
Your turn. Give me a chance to research. I'll get back to ya.
I suppose you want me to say WHOOPY DOO-DAH that you are passing along my comments. But I have something to say about you, on a personal basis. You are one of the finest posters I have watched on the free and open chat channels discussing complex scientific/political issues without bias or scorn or wanting to ride some political subterfuge spin monster. As they say .... if we had only ten more of you on the planet because of your beauty and charm and grace .... we could actually see a great new world.
Meanwhile here is a great graphic: Uh, no that really wasn't my intent. I guess what I should have said was that I will be showing your evidence to those with the PhDs and knowledge to counter it. I'm just not qualified on the scientific front. As they say .... if we had only ten more of you on the planet because of your beauty and charm and grace .... we could actually see a great new world. Aww thank you.
It sez here in my manual that I'm supposed to fling you into the water with my trebuchet. If you float, it means you're made of wood and are a witch and should be burned. If you sink, it means you're made of really heavy wood and are a witch and should be burned. Lucky for you, the fling pole on my trebuchet is broken. But you'll not evade me for long Miss Smarty-Pants!
LOL Well I have very heavy...attributes and I doubt you could lift me into your bucket.
No co2 emissions, no oxygen.
And no cow flatulence in the growing world of agricultural dominance by not just small farmers but HUGE world wide collective manipulating the control America. f**k 'em all. Here is how to change it: stop making babies and creating more drain on an already fragile system, not just for energy but the entire world around us.
All plants consume carbon dioxide, and incorporate the carbon from atmospheric carbon dioxide into their plant bodies. Plants don't get their carbon from soil, they get it primarily from atmospheric air. www.elmhurst.edu/~c hm/vchembook/306carbon.html Carbon Cycle - Photosynthesis: Photosynthesis is a complex series of reactions carried out by algae, phytoplankton, and the leaves in plants, which utilize the energy from the sun. The simplified version of this chemical reaction is to utilize carbon dioxide molecules from the air and water molecules and the energy from the sun to produce a simple sugar such as glucose and oxygen molecules as a by product. The simple sugars are then converted into other molecules such as starch, fats, proteins, enzymes, and DNA/RNA i.e. all of the other molecules in living plants. All of the "matter/stuff" of a plant ultimately is produced as a result of this photosynthesis reaction. An important summary statement is that during photosynthesis plants use carbon dioxide and produce oxygen. If you breathe air, you are breathing oxygen created by plants, which require atmospheric carbon dioxide to grow and exist. If you are a vegetarian, you consume carbon-based products made from atmospheric carbon dioxide.
Take the global warming test.....
never, and I mean NEVER, stand down wind from Elsie when she breaks wind.
Have you ever pulled an utter?
utter? Obviously, you have never been anywhere near milking anything.
You're posting garbage.
Call farmfriend in here. She and grace can offtopic the thread into oblivion!
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
Oh sure, the cow is out to pasture chewing her cud after being stroked. Cow flatulence doesn't exist with small or large farms of any sort while mankind attempts to feed the world through a massive population explosion. Nope. It is all environmentally sound and safe to have unsustainable population growth because you personally believe government controlling the world around you.
Really? You don't know shit. Never on your threads have you offered scientific fact other than your own opine taken from obtuse and far-off websites to support your oblivious views.
Obviously, you have never been anywhere near milking anything. LOL! You know daz rat, cows don't give hooch when you milk 'em. ahaha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. For America to get back on track about the nation is to diminish personal energy consumption and forget this crazy idea of unsustainable growth rates which has destroyed America's quality of life. This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more.
Yes, really. I know you're posting garbage.
Yeah, we know. Especially on the weekends when you get your tank topped off, eh buck?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Go to the populated areas of china, go to saudi arabia, and tell me that water is ample, we have an endless supply of oil, and that we live on a big planet. You are totally incorrect. We are stripping our resources at an amazing rate. Reproducing at an alarming rate. You bring fear.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
I know how you love to rag on me. It actually reminds of a guy on another forum who was jealous that I would flirt with everyone but him. Anyway, if you will take the time to notice, grace and I were the only ones actually having a scientific discussion on CO2 which is very much in keeping with the topic at hand. The discussion is not done so you are welcome to take part if you wish.
Go to the populated areas of china, go to saudi arabia, and tell me that water is ample, we have an endless supply of oil, and that we live on a big planet. I don't have to leave my seat to tell you there's an endless supply of oil. Yes, China is densely populated. Are they starving? Yes, Saudi Arabia is dry. Are they dying of thirst? You are totally incorrect. We are stripping our resources at an amazing rate. Which resources are we stripping? Reproducing at an alarming rate. I'm alarmed You bring fear. You're projecting.
Where does this endless supply of oil come from? Is there dinosaurs stomping at the center of the earth? What a load of bs. Do you know what the carbon cycle is? The plastic in the oceans and the stuff floating in the air takes time to fall and go back underneath the soil, to reconstitute oil. So, you are incorrect, since it there actually is not enough oil at current consumption on the planet for everyone. And yes, millions of people in china are starving. If you cannot keep feeding your people (with minearl poor soils) why are you reproducing? To show your love for hubris? Cut thyne own head off!LOL! Saudi arabia used to be a jungle... Now they dump sea water into some of the tapped out wells to raise the oil. That you say is going to fill up because of some magical organization of space and matter. yeah. right.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
I never said Chinese people weren't starving. If they're starving, they should be fed. Food. Can be grown in the ground or otherwise. Why aren't they being fed? What's the rate of population increase in China? Dinosaurs don't make oil. Overpopulation is a hoax like Global Warming and Oil being scarce. To show your love for hubris? Cut thyne own head off!LOL! Charming Ya spelt thine wrong.
Dinosaurs don't make oil. Overpopulation is a hoax like Global Warming and Oil being scarce. Yeah, there isn't enough resources to continue to feed more growing populations, and you say "why aren't they being fed"? Are you kidding me? How do you come to your conclusions ? Did you come to your own conclusions, or just agree with them by fiat?
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
I'll ask you again. Why aren't they being fed? See if you can answer it this time.
Anyway, if you will take the time to notice, grace and I were the only ones actually having a scientific discussion on CO2 which is very much in keeping with the topic at hand. The discussion is not done so you are welcome to take part if you wish. I am not in the least bit jealous of you. If I want to flirt with someone, however, I do it in real time/real life. I like womens. I like women flesh. Ain't no shame in my game. I know how you like to attack people. You are a women. It is not hard to figure you out. That doesn't distract from the fact that you don't know "scientific" (if it flew up and s**t on you) besides consensus agreement, which is just as flawed as your opposition. You are controlled. Both sides of the equation. It shows.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
Poverty. Poverty by people reproducing with no control. 1 tenth of the population (and I bet it is higher since the recession and tibet and other parts fell...) 30 million people are starving in China Epoch Times 11/13/2003 Related Articles • BEIJING - Thirty million people in China are starving because they do not get sufficient food each day. Wang Yuzhao, President of the China Foundation for Poverty Alleviation, revealed this fact at the opening of the Third Annual China Village Head Forum in Kunming on November 10th. According to Wang, many families who have secured sufficient food supplies are in danger of slipping back into malnutrition due to illness or natural disasters. Judging by the World Bank standard income of US$1 a day, there are 100 million Chinese people living in poverty. "This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
I'll bet it's a distribution problem. Perhaps there's not enough food. You know, supply and demand and all that. Maybe something to do with the government. Believe what you want. It's your life
Correction. There is not enough "nutrition" containing foods. Most of the topsoils in the country were killed off or have washed out since the 70s. The reason is using abiotic dinogoo as a source of energy and fertilizer. Simple. That is why the growing population of the earth is starving. And you cannot grow if you are starving. That is just cancer growing. Believe what you have heard from others without question and regurgitate it. Your life doesn't affect everyone else on this interrelated and getting smaller by the day planet.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
I don't attack anyone. Even your claims of attacking you were false. LOL that is too funny.
-Yawn- It ain't what you know that is the problem, it is what you think you know that is the problem.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
Now you are just projecting.
You wish I was a projector. Such is life.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
And that is a good thing? Gore must think so. What does Gore get out of this?
God is always good!
Gore is a demonrat just like obongo.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
Under whose rule shall ensure the unsustainable characteristics you side with? Al Gore begging for Global governance policies with blue hemeted troops by the UN policing your ass at the local 7-11?
That's why I love your posts. You are about objective discussion and bearing and considerate thinking even though we may have diametrical points of view. And we may never agree. Farmfriend, you know how to carry debate. Wudidiz can't carry a tune for discussion; he is too busy chewing gum and tying his own tennis shoe laces from time to time as he attempts to run around the playground with his pants falling down. As for Clitora (this thread only) very good perspectives. How long have you been researching your personal opinions on unsustainable capabilities?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestSo I can go on and on and on. It is an established fact increased ambient or environmental CO2 has little to do with actual increased nutrients based upon actual agricultural production. The plants are actually destroyed by the poor environments. To change things requires HUGE amounts of added plant nutrients such as potassium in the soil.
… in the past CO2 (or water) was pumped, at some cost, into depleting oil and gas fields to get out more. This will continue, but the taxpayer will contribute to these costs as the oil companies will be paid for taking the unwanted stuff off governments emission balance sheets! No wonder the oil companies are keen on CCS…
#45. To: farmfriend (#43)
will be passing your abstracts on to those with the PhDs to counter it. Stay tuned!
#46. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#41)
… in the past CO2 (or water) was pumped, at some cost, into depleting oil and gas fields to get out more. This will continue, but the taxpayer will contribute to these costs as the oil companies will be paid for taking the unwanted stuff off governments emission balance sheets! No wonder the oil companies are keen on CCS…
#47. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#45)
I suppose you want me to say WHOOPY DOO-DAH that you are passing along my comments.
But I have something to say about you, on a personal basis. You are one of the finest posters I have watched on the free and open chat channels discussing complex scientific/political issues without bias or scorn or wanting to ride some political subterfuge spin monster.
… in the past CO2 (or water) was pumped, at some cost, into depleting oil and gas fields to get out more. This will continue, but the taxpayer will contribute to these costs as the oil companies will be paid for taking the unwanted stuff off governments emission balance sheets! No wonder the oil companies are keen on CCS…
#48. To: farmfriend (#42)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#49. To: Esso (#48)
But you'll not evade me for long Miss Smarty-Pants!
… in the past CO2 (or water) was pumped, at some cost, into depleting oil and gas fields to get out more. This will continue, but the taxpayer will contribute to these costs as the oil companies will be paid for taking the unwanted stuff off governments emission balance sheets! No wonder the oil companies are keen on CCS…
#50. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#41)
I take great exception to her challenge, however and am prepared to continue posts taking exception to the popular idea that CO2 emissions are beneficial to mankind or the world around us.
#51. To: lodwick (#50)
#52. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#32)
I thought OXYGEN was a benefit to mankind. What makes you think CARBON_DIOXIDE is? When you breathe the in the aire around you take in OXYGEN. When you exhale, you remove CARBON_DIOXIDE.
#53. To: All (#52)
#54. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#51)
#55. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
#56. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#55)
#57. To: grace_is_by_our_lord, all (#39)
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#58. To: wudidiz, farmfriend (#57)
You're posting garbage.
#59. To: lodwick (#56)
#60. To: wudidiz (#57)
#61. To: lodwick, buckeroo (#56)
utter?
Lord Acton
#62. To: grace_is_by_our_lord, farmfriend (#29)
The rates of human consumption stripping the environment for energy and food and other resources is unsustainable. Governments can't sustain the lack of resources around the world by legislation. And believing in an infinite playground unfettered by 6.7Bn people on the planet isn't either.
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#63. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#60)
Really?
You don't know shit.
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#64. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#40)
So I can go on and on and on.
Lord Acton
#65. To: wudidiz (#62)
This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more.
#66. To: Clitora, wudidiz, grace_is_by_our_lord (#58)
Call farmfriend in here. She and grace can offtopic the thread into oblivion!
… in the past CO2 (or water) was pumped, at some cost, into depleting oil and gas fields to get out more. This will continue, but the taxpayer will contribute to these costs as the oil companies will be paid for taking the unwanted stuff off governments emission balance sheets! No wonder the oil companies are keen on CCS…
#67. To: Clitora (#65)
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#68. To: wudidiz (#67)
I don't have to leave my seat to tell you there's an endless supply of oil. Yes, China is densely populated. Are they starving? Yes, Saudi Arabia is dry. Are they dying of thirst?
#69. To: Clitora (#68)
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#70. To: wudidiz (#69)
I never said Chinese people weren't starving. If they're starving, they should be fed. Food. Can be grown in the ground or otherwise. Why aren't they being fed? What's the rate of population increase in China?
#71. To: Clitora (#70)
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#72. To: farmfriend (#66)
I know how you love to rag on me. It actually reminds of a guy on another forum who was jealous that I would flirt with everyone but him.
#73. To: wudidiz (#71)
Why aren't they being fed?
#74. To: Clitora (#73)
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#75. To: wudidiz (#74)
Perhaps there's not enough food.
#76. To: Clitora (#72)
I know how you like to attack people.
You are controlled. Both sides of the equation. It shows.
… in the past CO2 (or water) was pumped, at some cost, into depleting oil and gas fields to get out more. This will continue, but the taxpayer will contribute to these costs as the oil companies will be paid for taking the unwanted stuff off governments emission balance sheets! No wonder the oil companies are keen on CCS…
#77. To: farmfriend (#76)
I don't attack anyone. Even your claims of attacking you were false.
#78. To: Clitora (#77)
It ain't what you know that is the problem, it is what you think you know that is the problem.
… in the past CO2 (or water) was pumped, at some cost, into depleting oil and gas fields to get out more. This will continue, but the taxpayer will contribute to these costs as the oil companies will be paid for taking the unwanted stuff off governments emission balance sheets! No wonder the oil companies are keen on CCS…
#79. To: farmfriend (#78)
Now you are just projecting.
#80. To: christine (#0)
Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About 'Global Governance'
#81. To: RickyJ (#80)
What does Gore get out of this?
#82. To: wudidiz (#62)
This planet can easily sustain far more than 6.7 Billion people. It's a big planet. There's an endless supply of oil. More water than we need and ample room to grow all the food required plus more.
#83. To: farmfriend, Clitora, wudidiz (#66)
Anyway, if you will take the time to notice, grace and I were the only ones actually having a scientific discussion on CO2 which is very much in keeping with the topic at hand. The discussion is not done so you are welcome to take part if you wish.
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