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Title: US considers expanding army: Pentagon
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URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_con ... ing_army_Pentago_07152009.html
Published: Jul 16, 2009
Author: AFP
Post Date: 2009-07-16 16:23:51 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 460
Comments: 22

Defense Secretary Robert Gates is weighing a possible temporary expansion of the US army to ease the strain from wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, his press secretary said on Wednesday.

Gates was discussing the idea, backed by Senator Joseph Lieberman with senior officers to add 30,000 troops to the active-duty army, press secretary Geoff Morrell told reporters.

The possible expansion from the current strength of 547,400 would be designed "to get them through what is still a stressful period as we draw down in Iraq and continue to plus-up in Afghanistan," Morrell said.

"So he is engaged in discussions with a number of people about that possibility," he added.

Any expansion would be temporary but would carry a significant price tag, possibly more than a billion dollars, army officials said.

General Peter Chiarelli, the army's vice chief of staff, has told lawmakers that at any given time about 30,000 Army troops in the current force are not available to deploy to combat missions.

About 10,000 army personnel are wounded and receiving medical care, another 10,000 are in training programs and the remainder have been ordered to serve the Defense Department or other agencies and cannot be pulled from their duties.


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"Any expansion would be temporary" yeah. right.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

The only bright areas in the US economy are those people who produce food or extract natural resources for export.

Do you feel a ...DRAFT...in here?????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   16:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine, all (#0)

Any expansion would be temporary but would carry a significant price tag, possibly more than a billion dollars, army officials said.

They'd need about that much in enlistment bonuses.

And "plus-up"??? Who makes up these phrases?

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-16   16:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

Gates being kept on at DOD

i also hear crickets. do you?

christine  posted on  2009-07-16   16:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#2)

The 30,000 is very misleading.

To expand by 30,000 and...MAINTAIN...that level requires many more than 30K.

That I assume is expansion for grunts, not Pentagon paper shufflers, thus to expand we will need at least 40,000 to support and maintain.

Obumski has already said long ago he wants 87,000 Army grunts and 13,000 Marine grunts. That is not possible, even in this time of high unemployment.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   16:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom. all (#1)

Absent an 'event' even more horrific than 9.11, there won't be a draft. But I wouldn't bet a penny that it won't happen.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-07-16   16:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine, Sam Houston (#3)

i also hear crickets. do you?

This is just the opening gambit to accustom the masses as to the NEED of more people.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   16:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick (#5)

there won't be a draft

1948, no event, brand new draft and it forced me to volunteer. There was NO WAR. It was peacetime.

Americans said not a word, as I and two million other patriotic volunteers charged off to protect the Motherland from someone, I forget now who.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   16:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lodwick, Christine, All (#5)

Sixty one years ago, July 20, 1948.

"July 20, 1948

Truman issues peacetime draft

President Harry S. Truman institutes a military draft with a proclamation calling for nearly 10 million men to register for military service within the next two months.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   16:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7)

And 61 years later, we're still over there.

What a racket.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-07-16   16:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lodwick, All (#9)

Agreed, but notice, it was PEACETIME.

To add insult to injury, many of my friends that were a year or two older had to hustle to volunteer to avoid the Army, when their time was up four years later, the government tacked on another nine months, involuntary.

So they ended up with 5 years of their life shot to hell for nothing. Of course I fail to mention those that didnt come back, or were killed or wounded, that was just a side affair of a ...PEACETIME DRAFT...

Oh yes I made $72 bucks a month.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   16:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#0)

US considers expanding army: Pentagon

This should improve Obama's dismal unemployment numbers and remove many testosterone raging, gun owning, idle handed young males from general populations.........wouldn't want any sort of revolution or civil unrest to foment.

abraxas  posted on  2009-07-16   17:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine, any O (#0)

Can any O please tell me one Bush regime program that the Messiah has eliminated or cut? In his short tenure, he has outspent, out warred and removed more personal wealth from this nation than 8 years of Bush. Someone show me where I'm wrong; the new POS is far worse than the old POS and I thought that would be impossible.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-16   17:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: abraxas (#11)

remove many testosterone raging, gun owning, idle handed young males from general populations...

You left out...BITTER SMALL TOWN...

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   17:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

someone show me where I'm wrong;

Well, you are just another bitter small town loser that life has passed by. Just looking for something to tack onto our President.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   17:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14) (Edited)

He's why I'm a collector of fine guns and ammo.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-16   17:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#13)

You left out...BITTER SMALL TOWN...

Forgive me Cyni, those bitter small town Bible thumpers can't be allowed to start any militias either. Round 'em up, move 'em out!!

Afghanistan and Pakistan and Iraq need secure borders......and you need more soldiers on call as Israel escalates the hype on Iran and prepares to take ballistic preventative measures against yet another perceived threat to their nuclear dominance in the ME.

abraxas  posted on  2009-07-16   17:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#3)

i also hear crickets. do you?

By the end of this year, not ONE of the people in this crowd (except the Halfrican) will confess to having been there:

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-07-16   17:34:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom, christine, abraxas (#13)

I have read that one of seven army recruits is 30 years-old or more and was unemploted before enlisting. But I also have read of many Green Card recruits from Latin America. If they do recruit a lot of people, I think they will be either Latinos or black immigrants. The NWO wants people willing to shoot rioters. Though I doubt the sanity of hiring Latinos to shoot rioters as most of the food rioters in 2010 will be either black or Latino.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-07-16   17:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Horse (#18)

The draft is helpful in one way, in that it floods the military with men that despise the military, despise the government and cannot be programmed.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   17:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

The draft is helpful in one way, in that it floods the military with men that despise the military, despise the government and cannot be programmed.

It is helpful in another way as well, it combats apathy in this nation that is currently rampant. We'll see more demonstrations, sit-ins, protests and activism like we did when they pulled the draft out for Vietnam.

abraxas  posted on  2009-07-16   19:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: abraxas (#20)

We'll see more demonstrations, sit-ins, protests and activism like we did when they pulled the draft out for Vietnam.

Perhaps, but I tend to feel that as long as the MSM and the system WANT the draft, and that communism is not at stake, any dissent will be very limited.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-16   20:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#19)

The draft is helpful in one way, in that it floods the military with men that despise the military, despise the government and cannot be programmed.

A true statement, but not reason enough to ever let them take my children for foreign wars of lies and Empire.

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-07-16   20:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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