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Title: Senate Passes Hate Bill! Yet Democrats Compromise
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URL Source: http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=3196
Published: Jul 17, 2009
Author: Rev Ted Pike
Post Date: 2009-07-17 10:15:38 by christine
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Comments: 27
Sen. Patrick Leahy’s hate crimes bill, amending the National Defense Authorization Act, effectively passed the Senate tonight at about eleven o’clock p.m. EDT. A call for cloture, or termination of debate after thirty hours, was passed 63 to 28. Clearly, the Senate majority had spoken. Once cloture is invoked there is usually little more that can be done to resist. There was no floor debate. A complete end run had been done around adequate Senate hearings, a Mark-up session and Rules Committee debate. Total Senate debate of the hate bill amounted to little more than a brief “kangaroo” hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee several weeks ago. Witnesses, which included Attorney General Eric Holder were stacked 4 to 2 against conservatives. Passage occurred despite massive protest from the Christian/conservative right (even more than yesterday) with only the very smallest percentage of calls today in favor of the hate bill. Yet Protest Made a Difference Earlier Thursday evening the Senate finally assembled a quorum and voted down, 62 to 29, Sen. Hatch’s amendment. It would require the federal government to conduct a study to determine if the states are not enforcing the law against violent hate crimes. Citing Attorney General Eric Holder’s recent testimony in Judiciary, Hatch confirmed that states are already “doing a good job.” Then Senator Sam Brownback submitted an amendment which would include in the hate bill the most specific statement (part of the “Religious Freedom Act,” passed in 1993 by Congress 97-3) that only speech that threatens imminent incitement of violence will be punishable under the hate bill. Speech that falls short of such actual incitement will be protected. Sen. Leahy earlier said he had no problem with inclusion of Brownback’s amendment. Although he voted against it, the amendment passed overwhelmingly 78-13. Approval of Brownback’s amendment is a great victory, testimony to the pressure put on liberals even in the past two days. Most Senate Democrats were clearly eager to mollify, to some degree, the overwhelming anger at the hate bill from their constituents this week. Their House counterparts, under far less pressure eleven weeks ago, would never have made such a concession. Inclusion of Brownback’s amendment should help safeguard free speech from the pulpit or airwaves, except in the cases of the most blatant, immediate incitement to violence. It helps neutralize the extremely threatening language of the 1968 hate crimes law, Title 18, sec. 2A, which says if anyone “induces,” through speech, commission of a violent hate crime the speaker will be tried “as a principal” alongside the active offender in federal court. S. 909 remains a massive invasion of state’s rights in law enforcement in violation of the 10th Amendment. It violates the 14th Amendment by exalting certain groups, including homosexual pedophiles, above the majority. But, thanks to massive pressure on liberal Senators, especially during the last two days, and the initiative of Sen. Brownback, at least the 1st Amendment may not be as imminently threatened as before.
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#1. To: christine, Jethro tull (#0)
Americans, majority white, voted for every one of those people. They make lifetime careers of staying in Washington. On to the next Civil War or Revolution, let the blood run.
The Respectable Conservatives get their five-year phase-in.
“The blacks are very vain but in the Negroes’ way, and so talkative that they must be driven apart with thrashings.” -- Immanuel Kant “I’m apt to suspect the negroes to be naturally inferior to the whites.” -- David Hume Once again it took five Republicans to pass this just like Cap and Trade....no wonder they are fading fast as a party
I'm shocked this ADL inspired law passed. As some were distracted discussing which forensic auditing firm would be best to audit the Federal Reserve, they shoved this one up our tails. Well done all ye Rs and Ds who vote for your favorite traitor. But remember this; we still have the 2nd just in case they remove the rest.
Not true. The republican party is as strong as ever Its is ONE damned party rob, one party, one system, the ruling elite. Americans refuse to accept that the system is stacked this way all for the edification of the sheep that think their vote makes a difference.
Really??? No you are'nt. Remember who put Obumski there????? You need to be a shade more cynical.
I'm going to convert to Judaism, buy some Instant Tan cream and begin wearing one glove like Michael Jackson. That will protect me.
Well then I guess we should start talking about America as one party political system....and drop all the pretence of a two party system. Wikipedia Sometimes the term de facto single-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system where laws or practices prevent the opposition from legally getting power. Some single party states only outlaw opposition parties, while allowing subordinate allied parties to exist as part of a permanent coalition such as a popular front. Within their own countries, dominant parties ruling over single-party states are often referred to simply as the Party. For example, in reference to the Soviet Union, the Party meant the Communist Party of the Soviet Union; in reference to the former People's Republic of Poland it referred to the Polish United Workers' Party. A one-party system should not be confused with a non-partisan democracy which prohibits all political parties. Also, some one-party states may allow non-party members to run for legislative seats, as was the case with Taiwan's Tangwai movement in the 1970s and 1980s. In most cases, single-party states have arisen from Leninist, fascist or nationalist ideologies, particularly in the wake of independence from colonial rule. One-party systems often arise from decolonization because one party has had an overwhelmingly dominant role in liberation or in independence struggles. Where the ruling party subscribes to a form of Marxism-Leninism, the one-party state system is usually called a communist state, though such states do not use that term to describe themselves, adopting instead the title of people's republic, socialist republic or democratic republic.
No one heeds the motherly advice given to children anymore, "If you can't say anything nice about _____, just don't say anything at all." That would solve quite a few of humanity's problems right there, if it were ever heeded. Or, as the Spanish proverb says, En boca cerrada, no entran moscas (a closed mouth catches no flies). That said, I'm not in favor of this because it's both unenforceable and of dubious Constitutionality (not that the latter has mattered in 150 years).
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Yes, but isn't this attached to the military funding bill? Obama has promised to put a VETO stamp on it over the F-22 issues.........we'll see if he has the nads to keep his promise.
Your internet posting history has been noted and filed in Janet 'Napolean' Napolitano's Stasi files, you have no options at this point but to accept your eventual fate: _________________________________________________________________________ Indeed we should. The proof was there for all to see years ago, Americans ignored it at their own peril. Two parties??? In 1952 ...both voting...parties offered Eisenhower the candidates position, no strings attached. Harry Truman, a democrat, was pushed out by his own party, a sitting president mind you. After Bernard Baruch, a democrat, decided Ike should run as a republican, an unknown patsy was forced to run on the democrat ticket to ensure a win by Ike. After that charade, anyone that still held the idea of a two party system was not only ignorant, but rather stupid. To add insult to injury, the same patsy was forced to run against Ike four years later.
Most here have already done just that.
Lod Do you recall the Ike charade of 1952????
Just like William Kristol 'picked' Sarah Palin (unknown) to run along side Juan 'Amnesty' McCain, who had been polling consistently in last place in the GOP for 2007 and part of 2008???
_________________________________________________________________________ It is very much enforceable. It's only unenforceable in the same sense gun laws are. That is, darkies will ignore it.
“The blacks are very vain but in the Negroes’ way, and so talkative that they must be driven apart with thrashings.” -- Immanuel Kant “I’m apt to suspect the negroes to be naturally inferior to the whites.” -- David Hume I was six at the time, but I remember driving back from the farm and listening to the returns on WBAP 820AM as Adlai took one for the team. That might have been one time when Ike, as an independent, could have been elected.
I have wondered who picked her and why. Do you recall any reference that it was Communist Kristol????
It's pretty much confirmed that it was Bill Kristol: "It's no wonder why William the Bloody is defending Palin's decision to bail out. He's the one who pushed McCain big time to make her his VP. Jane Mayer explains it all took place on a cruise in her piece: How John McCain came to pick Sarah Palin. Palin received two memos from Paulette Simpson, the Alaska Federation of Republican Women leader, noting that two prominent conservative magazines—The Weekly Standard, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, and National Review, founded by William F. Buckley, Jr.—were planning luxury cruises to Alaska in the summer of 2007, which would make stops in Juneau. Writers and editors from these publications had been enlisted to deliver lectures to politically minded vacationers. “The Governor was more than happy to meet these guys,” Joe Balash, a special staff assistant to Palin, recalled. On June 18, 2007, the first group disembarked in Juneau from the Holland America Line’s M.S. Oosterdam, and went to the governor’s mansion, a white wooden Colonial house with six two-story columns, for lunch. The contingent featured three of The Weekly Standard ’s top writers: William Kristol, the magazine’s Washington-based editor, who is also an Op-Ed columnist for the Times and a regular commentator on “Fox News Sunday”; Fred Barnes, the magazine’s executive editor and the co-host of “The Beltway Boys,” a political talk show on Fox News; and Michael Gerson, the former chief speechwriter for President Bush and a Washington Post columnist." Source: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/bill-kristol-defends-sarah- palin-stepping "As Scott Horton of Harper’s and The Daily Hell Demon has discovered, it was at the insistence of New York Times “lightning rod conservative” monkey Bill Kristol, a liar and a fraud, that the McCain campaign went with Sarah Palin, and now the campaign is pissed at Kristol for making them pick this unconscionable retard." Source: http://wonkette.com/403588/mccain-campaign-hates-bill-kristol-for- making-them-put-dumb-lady-on-ticket/
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Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. There. Fixed it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. "CORNWALLIS TO GEORGE WASHINGTON: A HOLY WAR will now begin on America....." [sweetliberty.org] [Psalm 2] ANCIENT RITUALS: Rabbi Mordenchai Eskovitz (far left) presides over the daily morning service at Touro Synagogue in Newport, R.I. Built in 1763, Touro is the oldest synagogue in the US today. September 15, 2004 JOHN NORDELL - STAFF George Washington's lasting gift to generations of Jews By Christa Case | Contributor to The Christian Science Monitor NEWPORT, R.I. – In most of Colonial-era New England, it would have been about as hard to find a Jewish family as a grove of palm trees. But when George Washington visited Newport, R.I., in August 1790, the president found not just one Jewish family, but a Hebrew congregation with its own synagogue. They offered him a warm welcome to their community through a letter written by the leader of their congregation, Moses Sexias. Four days later, Washington penned a cordial response, assuring them they could enjoy full citizenship in the new United States of America - welcome news to a community whose ancestors had been expelled from the Iberian Peninsula during the Spanish Inquisition. Today, Jews still worship at the Touro Synagogue in Newport, and every August they - along with other supporters of religious freedom - file into the 18th-century Georgian building to read Washington's letter and to reflect on his words once again. "It is now no more that toleration is spoken of," Washington wrote, "as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights." He also declared that the government gave "to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance." After centuries of persecution in Europe, Jews welcomed Washington's message of equality, which set the stage for the US to become home to the largest, most prosperous Jewish community in the world. Washington's outreach to Jews was revolutionary, notes David Logan, dean of Roger Williams University's law school. America's Founding Fathers were unique in the world when they wrote freedom of religion into the laws of the new country, he says. "It's that pluralism and heterogeneity that make [America] a remarkable place." In the spirit of that pluralism, this year's letter-reading event was officiated and attended by people of a variety of faiths. The Rev. John Holt, a Methodist and executive minister for the interfaith Rhode Island Council of Churches, noted that the Touro Synagogue, dedicated in 1763 and the oldest surviving synagogue in the country, is "not a relic; it's a symbol of continuing religious tolerance." It was America's religious freedom that allowed Jews eventually to be appointed to the highest bench in the country, said US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the keynote speaker. But she also referred to "the persecution Jews have endured throughout history." She contrasted her experience on the bench with that of Louis Brandeis, the first Jew to become a member of the Supreme Court. He graduated from Harvard Law School in 1876 at the age of 20 with the highest scholastic average in the history of the school. Despite his qualifications, he faced open anti-Semitism among his colleagues, one of whom refused to stand next to him for a Supreme Court photo. In contrast, Justice Ginsburg said, she and her coreligionist, Justice Stephen Breyer, faced no such opposition. Eliot Barron of West Hartford, Conn., seated in the synagogue's balcony, nodded emphatically at Ginsburg's remarks about Jews' persecution, almost sending his yarmulke flying into the crowd below. To Dr. Barron and his wife, Vida, both of whose parents immigrated to the US from Eastern Europe, the occasion was a meaningful reminder of the refuge America provided their relatives and fellow Jews. Logan, too, can bear witness to that. His father was a Sorbonne-educated lawyer from the Czech Republic who escaped the Nazis by working as a clown's assistant. He later fled to the US, where he worked as a busboy. Logan credits the social mobility of Jewish immigrants such as his father to the religious freedom guaranteed by the American government. "There were definitely individuals, even powerful individuals, who behaved in an intolerant way," he said. "There remain intolerant individuals. [In the US,] someone has the right to be intolerant, but they can't have the government help them." http:// http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0915/p12s01-lire.html PATRICK HENRY: "I SMELL A RAT" http://ismellarat.com link to George Washington and Free Masonry Behold, I say, how they reward us, to come to cast us out of thy possession, which thou hast given us to inherit. bible.cc/2_chronicles/20-11.htm Obama will stamp it with a "signing statement". Showdown coming.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
The ADL, and the Israel Lobby in general - meaning Israel, has wanted this law for a while. There is too much dissent to Zionist hegemony and too many questions being raised about the Hollowco$t. An accurate and balanced accounting of history would show that the Bolsheviks in Russia, dominated by Zionists, were responsible for five to ten times more innocent deaths than were perpetrated by Nazi Germany, and that the cost exacted upon German lives was in the vicinity of 8 million dead in the years immediately following Germany's surrender. Patton was repelled by it and was likely going to go public back in the states and that is why he was whacked. This is not to excuse the actions of the Turd Reich but to put it in perspective and context. Both the actions of the Bolshevik Jews and Nazi crud were inexcusable in any sane calculus. The bottom line is that the Israel Uber Alles crowd cannot withstand honest scrutiny and so are trying to silence debate.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Exactly - Dees nailed it - again.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Amen.
Some say the big secret is that the Jews really consider AMERICA as their Zion, and plan to destroy the Old Jerusalem in their Armageddon plot. IMO, this is what they most want to stifle debate about: Galatians 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. bible.cc/galatians/4-30.htm .....because they refust to accept Christ, and as always, seek to take the kingdom with violence, and because the church has fallen down in its commandment to preach the gospel, TO THE JEW FIRST.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#2. To: christine (#0)
#3. To: christine (#0)
#4. To: Cynicom (#1)
#5. To: robnoel (#3)
.no wonder they are fading fast as a party
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
I'm shocked this ADL inspired law passed.
#7. To: Cynicom (#6)
#8. To: Cynicom (#5)
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#9. To: christine (#0)
#10. To: christine (#0)
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#12. To: robnoel (#8)
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Well then I guess we should start talking about America as one party political system....and drop all the pretence of a two party system.
#13. To: robnoel. all (#8)
Well then I guess we should start talking about America as one party political system....and drop all the pretense of a two party system.
#14. To: lodwick (#13)
#15. To: Cynicom (#12)
After Bernard Baruch, a democrat, decided Ike should run as a republican, an unknown patsy was forced to run on the democrat ticket to ensure a win by Ike.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#16. To: Sam Houston (#9)
it's both unenforceable
#17. To: Cynicom (#14)
#18. To: X-15 (#15)
Just like William Kristol 'picked' Sarah Palin (unknown) t
#19. To: christine, Rotara, Litus, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#0)
#20. To: Cynicom (#18)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
I'm going to convert to Judaism, buy some Instant Tan cream and begin wearing one glove like Michael Jackson. That will protect me.
Lord Acton
#22. To: X-15 (#20)
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#23. To: christine (#0)
might be an appropriate time to remember:
#24. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, christine, all (#4)
#25. To: TwentyTwelve (#19)
#26. To: Original_Intent (#24)
The bottom line is that the Israel Uber Alles crowd cannot withstand honest scrutiny and so are trying to silence debate.
#27. To: Cynicom, Original_Intent (#26)
The bottom line is that the Israel Uber Alles crowd cannot withstand honest scrutiny and so are trying to silence debate.
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