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Title: Sarah Palin Isn’t Our Savior
Source: TOQ Online
URL Source: http://www.toqonline.com/2009/07/sarah-palin-isnt-our-savior/
Published: Jul 21, 2009
Author: Richard Hoste
Post Date: 2009-07-22 00:58:39 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 425
Comments: 53

Like most conservatives, I wanted to like Sarah Palin when she came on to the national scene. Here was an attractive, conservative white woman with five kids. And the deranged hatred that liberals have of her has its roots in the same things that draw conservatives to her. She certainly wasn’t one of the degenerate elite. So I say the following with a heavy heart: Sarah Palin belongs nowhere near national politics.

I can understand a woman with five kids not having read up on foreign policy. But that doesn’t excuse the fact that when Palin was asked what newspapers she read, she replied “all of them.” Even if she had never picked one up in her life, a person with an average IQ would’ve known to reply “The Wall Street Journal” or “The New York Times” and been done with it.

I understand that all politicians say stupid things and the media decides which gaffes we hear about. Can you imagine if George Bush said that he’d been to 57 states? (www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws)

But Palin’s deficiencies go beyond the occasional gap in knowledge or slip of the tongue. She lacks the ability to sufficiently answer the most basic throw away questions. Take as an example her interview with Andrea Mitchell.

Why did she resign? A smart person, even if the resignation really was a ploy to run for president, would’ve come up with something credible sounding. Palin keeps repeating that she isn’t going to run for reelection. Since when does that have anything to do with somebody completing her term? Could Bush have resigned in say, June 2008 because he wasn’t running again? And then would it have made sense for Dick Cheney to resign because he wasn’t going to try for another term? According to Palin, completing her term would’ve been “playing the political game.” Her wanting to step aside to avoid spending millions defending herself against frivolous ethics complaints makes a little more sense, but she relies much more heavily on the obviously absurd “lame duck” argument.

She then gets upset when Mitchell asks her a follow up question at around three minutes into the video and blurts out “You’re not listenin’ to me!” Could you imagine a Mitt Romney, or any politician not named “Sarah Palin,” responding to a question like that? It shows the irrational anger of those insecure about their intelligence. Practically all her media appearances have been similarly awkward.

Sarah Palin is not only unqualified to be on a national ticket, but she actually harms the conservative cause. Her existence as a national candidate seems to verify liberals’ claim that conservatives are dumb. What message does the educated public receive from seeing the politician most beloved by the right being the one least capable of coherently expressing herself?

Understanding this point about being weary of supporting faux conservatives just because liberals hate them and they speak with Middle America accents is especially important after the George Bush era. We truly had gotten the worst of all worlds. He motivated liberals and inspired loyalty among mainstream conservatives while being to the left of Ted Kennedy on immigration and of Woodrow Wilson on foreign policy. Perhaps it would be worth firing up our enemies in order to get a true conservative in office. Unfortunately, Palin, like Bush, has never given any indication that she would do anything but walk the neo-con line. If you need any more convincing of that, know that The Weekly Standard still loves her:

weeklystandard.com/Conten...000/016/708gpxia.asp?pg=1

And there’s a political price to pay for having idiots seen as the representatives of right wing white interests. Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul can make an anti-establishment conservative proud; Sarah Palin, like say Sean Hannity, should make him cringe.

As I said before, I once thought Sarah Palin was somebody we should support. But being fecund and detested by the liberal elite does not a presidential candidate make. Sarah Palin’s contribution to the country’s future is producing four healthy white children of good genetic stock. Anybody expecting more is deluded.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

The odd thing about Palin's inability to name a newspaper when challenged on her claim that she kept up with the news is that, in college, she majored in journalism! I mean, if someone asked me what papers I read, even if I watch cartoons all day, I'd have known enough to fib and name the New York Times or some other big newspaper. She didn't even know the name of a single big newspaper. She hadn't been out of the country -- not even to Canada -- until she was nominated for VP.

She was Dan Quayle in drag.

Shoonra  posted on  2009-07-22   7:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Shoonra (#1)

She'd be no worse than the current occupant in the WH. Keep in mind I haven't voted for a president since Buchanan in '00. This isn't to imply she's a MENSA candidate, but neither is Obama who claimed he campaigned in "all 57 states."

Phone Banking for the Big O

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-22   7:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra (#1)

She was Dan Quayle in drag.

On this we can certainly find agreement (Dan Quayle was better informed).

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   8:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15, Jethro tull, All (#0) (Edited)

Like most conservatives, I wanted to like Sarah Palin when she came on to the national scene. Here was an attractive, conservative white woman with five kids. And the deranged hatred that liberals have of her has its roots in the same things that draw conservatives to her. She certainly wasn’t one of the degenerate elite. So I say the following with a heavy heart: Sarah Palin belongs nowhere near national politics.

What BS, you enjoy climbing on the bandwagon

Case in point, what did you say about Biden having Roosevelt on national TV during the depression???????????

Not a word, you idiot. "And that SOB ...IS... the VP of the United States.

And we have people on this forum that are as equally programmed.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   8:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

I know people on this forum who have voted for Clinton & Bush (some twice) yet the more patience among us have allowed them to grow and develop into the solid political folks that currently are. Palin's past, as it stands now, would exclude her from any leadership consideration, but I have no clue what she will become over the next year, or two. I suggest we be patient and see if a change is coming from her. To those who claim to know, please lend my your crystal ball. I have a pony I like in the 6th at Belmont.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-22   8:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Shoonra (#1)

I'd have known enough to fib and name the New York Times or some other big newspaper. She didn't even know the name of a single big newspaper. She hadn't been out of the country -- not even to Canada -- until she was nominated for VP.

Here is what I can conclude from your comments.

You are a liar and would lie to look good. Palin didn't lie.

To say she never heard of the New York Times is the talk of a crazy person. She just didn't lie about it like you have said you would. A fib is a lie. You are an admitted liar.

I also conclude that you are kind of a snob. Who cares if she didn't go out of the country.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   8:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

We have either programmed sheep or dishonest posters at 4um.

Some I suspect are both with a tad of ignorance thrown in.

Example, every portion of the political spectrum loved Obama, libs/cons, pubs/dems, even the families of two republican former presidents came out in total support with maximum money and publicity for Obama.

Not one MSM raised their heads above the skyline in a negative fashion. Not one.

McKooK and Palin lost, the election is over, McKooK is rarely mentioned, but Palin is another story. MSM and all colors of the political spectrum are once again in full agreement, not a word of negativism of Obama but pages of obscene vitriol about Palin.

The hatred of a non person, unqualified for anything, is palatable. And here on 4um we have obedient programmed sheep in lockstep with MSM and the government.

Not one has ever offered a sound reason as to why Palin is feared.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   8:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Not one has ever offered a sound reason as to why Palin is feared.

Because she connects with average Americans. She isn't a baby killer like 99.7 percent of elected D's are. They see her as the pretty neighbor that they were always jealous of.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   8:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7)

Not one has ever offered a sound reason as to why Palin is feared.

IMO, she potentially has the capability to break the National Party mold of the Two-POD political Monty game we are treated to every four years. Even after a MSM pounding like nothing seen recently, she stands at a 42% favorable rating. That isn't Dan Quaye_ish. Palin is capable of breaking away from the Rs and perhaps putting together a new movement. This sends shivers down the backs of the shills who are quite happy with the current WH occupant, Speaker, and leftist agenda.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-22   9:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: X-15, Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#0)

Unfortunately, Palin, like Bush, has never given any indication that she would do anything but walk the neo-con line. If you need any more convincing of that, know that The Weekly Standard still loves her:

there's the crux for me.

christine  posted on  2009-07-22   10:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

That isn't Dan Quaye_ish. Palin is capable of breaking away from the Rs and perhaps putting together a new movement. This sends shivers down the backs of the shills who are quite happy with the current WH occupant, Speaker, and leftist agenda.

Hatred of a person because they are female, is difficult to understand.

However hatred brought forth by fear is ...QUITE UNDERSTANDABLE...

Palin being one of the unwashed masses sends shivers of fear down the spines of the elite. The sheep, lackeys and idiots as programmed chime right in with their indignation that such a person.....MIGHT....run for president.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   10:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#4)

Mercy, we sure seem to have difficulty finding positive attributes on either (purported) side of the political equation ... both (purported) sides satisfied to MF the other guy.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   10:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#11)

Palin, like Bush, has never given any indication that she would do anything but walk the neo-con line. (Taken from an earlier post ... but true.)

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   10:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine, Jethro tull, all (#10)

there's the crux for me.

Well, lets examine what you said.

Palin ran for VP.

Joe Biden is married to a Jew, his children are Jews, he has all of his life boasted that he is...A PROUD ZIONIST...

He was elected easily as VP of the United States,...NOWHERE WAS THERE ANY MASS DENUNCIATION OF HIS SELF PROFESSED ZIONIST LOVE...

Not by pubs, not by dems, by NO ONE. Certainly not by MSM.

Palin was defeated, is NOT running officially for anything, yet this inordinate fear. Why do people fear someone that is not to bright, they exhibit no fear of Biden?

Contrast of contradictions here.

It is FEAR of anyone from the masses taking center stage that animates the elite. Whether Palin is dumb, good, bad, religious zealot or atheist...IS NOT THE PROBLEM...THE PROBLEM IS SHE IS ONE OF THE MASSES

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   10:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#10)

there's the crux for me.

That's where she's been, but where is she going? She just left political office, does anyone know why? Do we know for sure? As I mentioned, Clinton and Bush voters on this forum have seen the light and have been welcomed back to political reality, is Palin incapable of catching a clue like they have? If she doesn't, throw her overboard, but if she does alter her political positions, perhaps she'd be better that the standard R or D and that is what terrifies the National Party.

At any rate, can any Palin hater please tell me how she'd be any worse a president than Obama currently is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-22   10:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#14)

SHE IS ONE OF THE MASSES

One "M" too many !

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   10:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#14)

The ongoing disproportionate personal attack on her by all the right enemies should be a clue that she poses some sort of threat to the establishment. That small sliver of hope alone should make the most skeptic among us scratch their heads.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-22   10:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

Palin supported all neo-con agenda issues ... f**k her.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   10:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#18) (Edited)

Well said.

To the people here that voted for Bush/Clinton....f**k them.

Change isn't possible.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-22   10:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, all (#15)

At any rate, can any Palin hater please tell me how she'd be any worse a president than Obama currently is.

As published here yesterday there were a few million white voters that did not vote, and the total number of votes declined re the population.

First and foremost, MSM and the elite would say they were all racists, white trash etc etc.

Really???

Is there the distinct possibility that there were those that would have voted for Palin but could not stomach McKooK???? The numbers indicate there were several million that voted with their feet.

I suspicion that with total disregard for Palin, but rather pick any American from among the masses and we would have the very same reaction.

Therein lis the programming.

Boost Mr. Tull for president and we would have the same scenario, just the names change to protect the guilty.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   10:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222 (#18)

On the American scene, is there anyone you can accept as qualified running for president?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   10:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

On the American scene, is there anyone you can accept as qualified running for president?

Not likely.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   10:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#22)

Not likely.

Well then, what is the alternative????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   10:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#20)

At any rate, can any Palin hater please tell me how she'd be any worse a president than Obama currently is.

Are we searching for the absolute bottom of the barrel ?

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   10:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#24)

Are we searching for the absolute bottom of the barrel ?

?????????????????????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   10:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#23)

Well then, what is the alternative????

A lobotomy for anyone considering either Party.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   10:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#25)

OK, that may not have been your commentary ... but you did respond.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   11:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: noone222 (#26)

A lobotomy for anyone considering either Party.

That was a foregone conclusion by thinking people long ago.

We still need to consider an alternative to the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   11:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#14)

.NOWHERE WAS THERE ANY MASS DENUNCIATION OF HIS SELF PROFESSED ZIONIST LOVE...

Cynicom. Everyone doesn't hate Jews. You may think that in the echo chamber but it is not way in the real world.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   11:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: noone222 (#26)

A lobotomy for anyone considering either Party.

There are many factions throughout the political world. Your faction is about 7 people. No one needs or wants your vote. Your views are popular with less then half a percent of real Americans.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   11:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)

Cynicom. Everyone doesn't hate Jews.

Please post where I used that term????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   11:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#31)

Cynicom everyone knows that zionist is codeword for jews. Please don't deny it. The word is used interchangeably regularly. It is your right to not like certain philisophies races or whatever. Just don't be surprised when your faction has no results at the polls.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   11:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#14)

I thought that the article was rather mild in it's criticism of Palin.

The problem with Palin is manifested in an unspoken, raging bigotry by the MSM due to her Christianity and opposition to abortion, along with her hunting and fishing background. Her involvement in the Alaskan independence movement was troubling to some.

What gets me is that the MSM still hates her even after she acknowledged that her political philosophy includes support for ZOG/Israel along with what seems to be a parroting of Juan 'Amnesty' McCain on the immigration issues.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

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X-15  posted on  2009-07-22   11:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#32)

"zionist is codeword for jews"

What utter dribble....again admit you are a zionist just like your good buddy Joe Biden

Zionism is an ideology based on the claim that "God" gave land in the Middle East to the Jewish people several thousand years ago. The concept is clearly ridiculous given that the vast majority of Jewish people today have no relationship to the Jews of antiquity other than a religious belief that many adopted relatively recently. This fact alone makes a mockery of the idea that a portion of land in the Middle East belongs to the Jews of today. It also makes a mockery of the idea that to criticize Zionism is anti-semitic - hatred of Jewish people.

The Zionist movement is and always has been owned by a small group of individuals who used the manipulative power of religion to further their own selfish agenda.

The January 16th 2007 edition of Boston Globe ran an editorial by the editorial page director, H.D.S. Greenway. It was a typical apparently left-of-center piece on a possible attack on Iran, with Greenway urging everyone to "step back and take a deep breath". Towards the end of the piece however, Greenway makes a comment in which he momentarily strikes at the heart of the matter only to then gloss it over with a line taken directly from the Zionist book of truisms.

"Every Israeli prime minister has had to fear in one remote corner of the brain that the effect of Zionism might be to gather all the Jews in one place for destruction. This fear has been brought front and center by Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's criminally irresponsible call for the destruction of the Jewish state."

The only truth in this statement is found in the words "the effect of Zionism [has been] to gather all the Jews in one place for destruction." The idea, as implied by Greenway, that this was a mistake on the part of the Zionists who created and continue to control the Zionist state is laughable, mainly because it was patently obvious from the very outset that to create a state for Jews in 1948 by stealing land belonging to another people and to proceed to oppress, and periodically murder, the indigenous population over the following 58 years was the best way to ensure a perpetual threat to the Jews of Israel.

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-22   11:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#15)

As I mentioned, Clinton and Bush voters on this forum have seen the light and have been welcomed back to political reality, is Palin incapable of catching a clue like they have? If she doesn't, throw her overboard,

good points. we'll have to see. a lot can happen over the next 3 yrs. with a likely collapse of the economy, the political landscape will certainly change . at this point, it's anyone's guess if they'll even be another election!

christine  posted on  2009-07-22   11:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

Palin supported all neo-con agenda issues ... f**k her. Noone222

To the people here that voted for Bush/Clinton....f**k them. Jethro Tull

To the people here who voted for obama... fuck them.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-07-22   11:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: robnoel (#34)

The concept is clearly ridiculous given that the vast majority of Jewish people today have no relationship to the Jews of antiquity other than a religious belief that many adopted relatively recently.

The only truth in this statement is found in the words "the effect of Zionism [has been] to gather all the Jews in one place for destruction."

Can you reconcile those two points?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   12:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: robnoel (#34)

What utter dribble....again admit you are a zionist just like your good buddy Joe Biden

Hear, hear.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   12:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Cynicom everyone knows that zionist is codeword for jews. Please don't deny it.

Deny???

Thru necessity the terms are totally interchangeable.

Modern term...JEW...is best defined as a culture, nothing else. The original semites were a colored race. (Present day Arabs reflect that)

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   12:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)

Not that it would make any difference to you I can only conclude that you do not have a higher enough IQ to grasp reallity

Browse through Dr. Henry Makow’s new book, Illuminati: The Cult That Hijacked the World (Winnipeg, Silas Green, 2008). By the way, Dr. Henry is a Jew. All his grandparents were killed by the Nazis. His parents survived only by pretending not to be Jewish. Dr. Henry has lived in Israel and used to be a Zionist. Is he credible yet?

He writes that in 1925 Germany’s 500,000 Jews were either overwhelmingly indifferent or actively hostile to Zionism. They wanted to assimilate and opposed anti-Semitism. But the predatory Zionists welcomed Nazi anti-Semitism. Both Zionists and Nazis agreed Jews should not be in Germany. They collaborated. Zionists did not protest Nazi persecution; for instance, when the Nazis fired two thousand Jews from the universities they uttered not a peep.

Dr. Makow writes (p. 145): “. . . Adolph Eichmann set up agricultural training camps in Austria to prepare young Jews for Kibbutz life. He visited Palestine and conferred with Zionist leaders who confessed their true expansionist goals. There was even talk of a strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and Jewish Palestine. His report is in Himmler’s Archives.”

That’s right! Adolph Eichmann was a Zionist. Didn’t you know? He was persecuted as a child because he looked Jewish. He associated with Jews. As a Gestapo officer, he learned Hebrew, visited Palestine and worked closely with Zionists preparing Jews for emigration. These are just a few examples of such connections.

Now, why did the Holocaust happen? Again, it happened, and could only have happened, because the predatory Red “Labor” Zionists collaborated with the Nazis to inflict it. Hannah Arendt was a Jewish philosopher. Our Communist media and academia have bedecked her with enormous credibility.

In Eichmann in Jerusalem (New York: Penguin Books, 1977), she writes: “In Amsterdam as in Warsaw, in Berlin as in Budapest, Jewish officials could be trusted to . . . supply police forces to help seize Jews and get them on trains, until, as a last gesture, they handed over the assets of the Jewish community in good order for final confiscation. . . .” (P. 117) Without that intervention, she says (p. 125), far fewer victims would have died. Why did they do it?

World Zionist Organization official Nathan Schwalb explained in 1942 why the Zionists refused to pay Berlin a mere $2 million to save all the Jews in Europe: “. . . [A]ll the Allied nations are spilling much of their blood, and if we do not sacrifice any blood, by what right shall we merit coming before the bargaining table when they divide nations and lands at the war’s end? . . . for only with blood shall we get the land.” (Makow, p. 148) Top Zionist celebrities do not deny this. In 1958, former Israeli Prime Minister Moshe Sharett said at a memorial: “Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save the many.” This worked out to mean kill many Jews to save a few. www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan187.htm

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-22   12:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Cynicom (#39)

When I work in a certain area I sometimes stop at this guys shop to buy me a strawberry crush or some Green Tea. I thought the guy was an arab. His skin is a little dark. Turns out the guy is a Jew.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   12:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#41)

Most likely Ashkenazi, Jew by culture only.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   12:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: robnoel (#40)

I have no problem with Jews wanting a homeland.

I don't know if your story is true or not. I suspect elements of truth and exagerations.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   12:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom (#42)

Most likely Ashkenazi, Jew by culture only.

He is friendly enough. So I don't care what he is.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   12:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robnoel (#40)

Browse through Dr. Henry Makow’s new book, Illuminati: The Cult That Hijacked the World (Winnipeg, Silas Green, 2008). By the way, Dr. Henry is a Jew. All his grandparents were killed by the Nazis. His parents survived only by pretending not to be Jewish. Dr. Henry has lived in Israel and used to be a Zionist. Is he credible yet?

A+

For your post.

I have long time friends from NYC, Jews, that are anti Jew and anti Zionists. They prefer to be Americans, nothing else.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   12:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#44)

He is friendly enough. So I don't care what he is.

right.

Odds say he cares as to what you are.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   12:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#45)

Let me guess what his response will be.....Makow is just another self hating Jew!

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-22   12:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robnoel (#47)

Let me guess what his response will be.....Makow is just another self hating Jew!

That is the term used when all other terms do not fit.

One size fits all.

My friend in NYC is named Goldstein, and he use to make me cringe at times when he would get on peoples case. He always told them up front about their "culture", very vocal.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-22   12:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#30) (Edited)

Your views are popular with less then half a percent of real Americans.

Good, that's why I expatriated.

Look around fucktard ... proud of what ya see ? What you call "real Americans" are fat, dumb, mall waddling, consumers. Join em, they deserve you.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   13:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: LACUMO (#36)

Palin supported all neo-con agenda issues ... f**k her. Noone222

To the people here that voted for Bush/Clinton....f**k them. Jethro Tull

To the people here who voted for obama... fuck them.

Perfect @!!!

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   13:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: noone222 (#49)

Good, that's why I expatriated.

Look around fucktard ... proud of what ya see ? What you call "real Americans" are fat, dumb, mall waddling, consumers. Join em, they deserve you.

Problem is nothing would make you happy. You said so yourself in answer to who would be a good candidate or if there are any. You sound like a very bitter and angry person. Sure things in our country aren't going right. But for you to despise people because they "go to the mall" is not the thoughts of a rational person. A lot of these people you call dumb are just like you. They don't know how to get out of this web that has been weaved for us. Maybe if you get off your high horse and quit looking down on everyone who doesn't share every one of your views, you would see that there are still good decent people in this nation. Some of them are even fat and go to the mall. Or I hate to say this. Walmart.

On expatriation. Do you still live in America or is it just symbolic?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-22   15:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#51)

Problem is nothing would make you happy.

You sound like a very bitter and angry person.

But for you to despise people because they "go to the mall" is not the thoughts of a rational person.

Maybe if you get off your high horse and quit looking down on everyone who doesn't share every one of your views, you would see that there are still good decent people in this nation.

I'd be happy to be left alone. I'd be happy to leave my children in a free state rather than a police state.

I'm content for the most part. I am bitter to see the country sliding into a fascist police state, guided by both political parties that most people believe to be in opposition to each other contrary to the plethora of evidence readily available.

My loathing of the dumb, fat assed mopes waddling through a mall has nothing to do with the location.

Being perfectly frank, I see taxpayers as enemies of freedom, either too afraid or too comfortable to stand their ground instead of financing their own demise and that of their children.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-22   17:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#28)

We still need to consider an alternative to the system.

I'm for anarchy !

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-23   19:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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