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Title: Pastor Hagee in Washington Today..Says World will end in 20 Years
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Published: Jul 23, 2009
Author: By Stephen K. Ryan
Post Date: 2009-07-23 19:31:12 by Brian S
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John Hagee brings his show to Washington D.C. this week. Over 4,000 Christians are gathering in Washington this week to advocate for Israel and simultaneously the end of times on Capitol Hill. The fourth annual summit of Christians United for Israel (CUFI) has brought together Christian leaders and supporters of Israel from around the country, starting Monday and continuing through Wednesday. Pastor Hagee is on the record saying he hopes to deliver his followers to heaven in a biblical moment of Rapture. What is so confounding to many are Pastor Hagee's pronouncements and prophesies, which are clearly at Israel's expense, yet Rev. Hagee is cheered on, unbelievably, by prominent Jewish leaders like ex-VP candidate and US Senator Joe Lieberman and TV commentator William Kristol. Senator Lieberman went so far as to call Mr. Hagee some kind of modern day "Moses" Here is what Mr. Hagee had to say on CNN in an interview with Glen Beck. HAGEE: Well, there are ten Bible signs that we`re living in the end of days CNN Glen BECK: End of the world as we know it in five years, 10 years, 20years? John HAGEE: I don`t think we`ll get past 20 years. for complete transcript click http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0710/12/gb.01.html
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#16. To: robnoel (#12)
Yes my little zionist once again quoting from the Scoefield Reference Bible Rob you cut and paste a lot. Rob Matthew chapter 24 is in all Bibles not just this scofield one you are so obsessed about. Was the education really that bad in your home South Africa?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Rob your ancestors murdered africans and stole the land. You are a squatter. Also your claim that I destroyed your country is pathetic and the talk of someone without the ability to speak the truth. Rob you should try being honest when you debate.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
You are devout follower of Scoefield it's not a secret it's a fact you are a phoney Christian maybe you got that from your government education system
By the way did you write those words or plagarize them?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Thats rich coming from a American oh I forgot you are a product of government education...got a few Indians here in Arizona that would like to return the favour and scalp your sorry ass
Rob I use the King James Bible. It is accurate Rob. Rob you aren't the judge of who is a christian. God determines who is a christian not Rob. Rob our government schools don't teach religion or talk about God anymore. Are you ok Rob, your not making a whole lot of sense?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I feel the same way about my country too. People like Old Friend (AKA Stone) are destroyers that abuse other people's good nature. To hell with them all.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Rob you always put an "an" before a word that starts with a vowel. Not an "a". So it is not "a american" it is "an american". Anyway what you said doesn't change the fact that your ancestors murdered africans and stole their land. Now why don't you get out of my country and go back and squat on someone elses land. Ok Rob.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
noone you really live up to your name. Lets see you call me a destroyer. But it is you talking about genocide (your nuke the jews comment). And now slitting the throat of your political enemies. Sounds like you are the abuser and destroyer.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
McCain’s Pastor Hagee Loves Him Some End Times Sarah Posner, May 2008 By now you could mention the name John Hagee and immediately most people would quickly associate it with the term “great whore.” The reference, of course, is to Hagee’s now-notorious exposition on the Book of Revelation in which he describes the institution of the Catholic Church as a lascivious woman astride a horse in the biblical story on the end of the world. Like all Hagee sermons, this one hardly serves as a model for scholarly exegesis. As he bumbled around, straining to fit the Biblical text into an elaborately illustrated historical timeline, Hagee let his animus towards what he calls “the apostate church” show. But the emphasis on Hagee’s clumsy diatribe misses a larger point: that Hagee was describing the Book of Revelation in terms that demonstrate how he thinks it is a real description of church history, a real forecast of the end of the world, and, as a result, a template for U.S. foreign policy. Most frighteningly of all, despite all of this, he and his Christians United for Israel (CUFI) are treated as a legitimate foreign policy voice in Washington by the Bush Administration, John McCain, and many other members and former members of Congress, including Joe Lieberman, who likened him to Moses, and even the Catholic Rick Santorum. Santorum told me last year that although he doesn’t share Hagee’s beliefs on the end-times, he appreciates his – er, foreign policy views. Trouble is, though, those two things can’t really be extricated from each other. In his book, Jerusalem Countdown, and in many other books and sermons over the years, Hagee describes how biblical prophecy should dictate U.S. policy, and how such policy will lead to the Second Coming of Christ. Hagee is popular in some Jewish circles because his view that God’s will prohibits any land concessions by the Israelis to the Palestinians is supposedly “supportive” of Israel. His views can only be deemed to be supportive of Israel, of course, if you think it should be embroiled in years of bloody war which culminate in the conversion or death of all the Jews. Hagee protests that he wants peace in Israel, but that peace will only happen when Christ comes again – after God decimates a Muslim army and a giant earthquake swallows the Dome of the Rock. For everyone whose feet are firmly planted in reality, however, his thirst for this bloody ending to the world as we know it defies his claim that he’s a peace-seeker. As Jeremy Ben-Ami, executive director of J Street, which brings a sane new voice to the Middle East policy debate in Washington, recently, Hagee “look[s] at the trade-offs that Israel must make to achieve peace -- and hope[s] to thwart them.” Like his friend Rod Parsley, who also endorsed McCain, Hagee believes Islam is satanic. Here’s how he described that view at the late Jerry Falwell’s church last fall: Satan wants Jerusalem for his messiah, the Antichrist. God has promised it to King David that his seed, Jesus Christ, shall rule over it forever and forever. People ask why can’t the Arabs and the Jews get together over this city? Listen to me: it is not about the two-state solution. It is not about money. It is not about land. It is about theology. . . . Muhammed taught a theology of triumphalism . . . .for Islam to rule the earth. The problem is that sitting in the throat of Islamic nations in the Middle East is Israel, who has an unconditional blood covenant with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that the land shall be theirs forever and forever. God did not loan the land to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He gave it to them by blood covenant, and the Book of Genesis and that covenant still stands. It is there regardless of what the United Nations wants. It is there regardless of what the U.S. State Department thinks. It is there in spite of what the Arab nations want. It belongs to Israel. . . . I am telling you there will be no lasting peace in the Middle East until the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ, returns to that sacred city and sets up his eternal kingdom. I’ve been writing about Hagee’s mad view that a war with Iran is presaged in the Bible for a couple of years now, and have written a new book, God’s Profits: Faith, Fraud, and the Republican Crusade for Values Voters, exposing Hagee’s (and other televangelists’) controversial prosperity gospel doctrine, bizarre views on Israel and the end-times, and cozy relationship with the Republican Party. His obsession with money, Armageddon, and the spiritual warfare that animates daily life are the core of his preaching week after week, not screeds against the Catholic Church. The fact that his anti-Catholicism became the centerpiece of media coverage of McCain’s “pastor problem” caused the press and the public to take their eyes off this ball. (Thanks, Bill Donohue!) The focus on Hagee’s disdain for the Catholic Church has eclipsed the fact that Hagee thinks that the roadmap for peace in the Middle East is against God’s will (and will bring God’s wrath on America in the form of hurricanes, floods, and even terrorist nuclear attacks) and that the Bible provides the real roadmap for U.S. policy. Hagee’s colossally illogical extension of this view is that diplomacy equals appeasement and war is the only answer. Sound familiar? If you’re wondering whether Hagee has had any impact on Bush, I’ve laid out how Bush’s appeasement speech comes straight out of the Hagee playbook. No accident: Hagee’s relationship with Bush dates back to his days as Governor of Texas; Hagee later endorsed Bush’s presidential candidacy in a book, God’s Candidate for America, and in 2003 proclaimed that God “raised up” Bush to “crush Saddam Hussein.” Let’s not let the Catholic League’s Donohue – who himself has issued anti- Semitic, anti-gay, and other derogatory slurs – dictate the terms of a vital conversation we all need to have about Hagee’s role in McCain’s campaign. Of course it makes for eye-popping video that Hagee used the term “great whore” and elsewhere suggested Adolf Hitler learned his anti-Semitism at Catholic school. Certainly if Hagee does think the Catholic Church should be blamed for the Holocaust, he should have to explain himself – something he tried to do last week, an effort that was clearly aimed at helping repair McCain’s image with Catholic voters. But Hagee’s fixation with Armageddon, and his ability to virally market that fixation to the shock troops through his daily television program and multi- million dollar ministry, has had a catastrophic impact on our Middle East policy. With a possible McCain presidency promising to be a third Bush term, none of us can afford to overlook that. +++++++ Bush is a luciferian. Hagee's endorsement of him as God's candidate for America is sick and evil. That Hagee has the following he does is proof that we're a nation of pathetic fawning sheep. baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again...this time for good ....please move back to Israel your home country
sell your cloak, buy a sword.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
I don't know about everything else you pasted. But if you read the Bible and the description of "the great whore" is very possibly the catholic church. I'm not sure but it is a possibility.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Yes Christ said that. But not to go and murder someone. It was for self defense.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Rob christine may not agree with me on Israel but she is pretty much for free speech and open debate. When you say you hate zionists then you call me a zionist. Well that is you trying to start some shit. Oh yes Rob one more thing. Unlike you I am American born. Your just an immigrant here to benefit from the work of me and my ancestors. You are not a very grateful immigrant.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
either way. the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present. as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present. as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time. Gengis I think you don't really mean it when you say to slit his throat. It isn't right and you know it. Unlike some other people who I think really think that way.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
To most here, Hagee, and his ilk, are certifiable.
Rob that isn't exactly true. I was never gone Rob. You should really get your facts straight before you talk Rob.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Lod that may be the majority opinion. It may be correct. But do you think the majority opinion is to "slit his throat". I don't think you are for that Lodwick. Your a much more sensible man.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time. i love the way you cut to the chase ;)
"God's Candidate"? Gag! Power vomit! "I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time. i love the way you cut to the chase ;) That isn't really true. Read the declaration of independence and God is all over it. Read the constitution and it calls for a blessing. Not exactly accurate.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Oh, No! The world is coming to an end! Hagee doesn't know anything. Freedom's breath in the world came to an end a long time ago. Without that, might as well bring on the giant meteor, Hagee. I'll stand on the roof and watch it come in. The "prosperity" everyone so dearly coveted was stolen from them by the "chosen people" and now, sadly, many have lost everything. Only the protected class government leeches exist securely now on the legalized theft (taxes) from others.
Is Henry Makow one of those zionists intent on bringing down this country? That guy seems to have a very destructive agenda and is exceedingly clever about it.
Boss Hogg was correct.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
I hadn't considered Makow in that light at all.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Is that you again lod? If not tell us your other screen names.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
All in all, throat-slitting is not the way I want to go, or see others go. If you're speaking of defending yourself, your family, or your property, then deliver a few .45ACP rounds to the attackers, and be done with it. Throat slitting is just so passe.
For a American you sure don't even know your own Declaration of Independence it refers to a “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.
Yup he is, just did a quick search. He's responsible for the anti-female agenda which has taken off like crazy, women are cunts and sluts and whores and don't know their place, lots of men are being brainwashed by his crap and the crap of others like him. It's bad enough that they engage in race-baiting, but to attempt to separate the men and women goes against nature. I suppose it's being done so when they take us to the camps, the men will not protect their women (these evil bastards hope anyway).
lol it wasn't a typo. You said it twice now. a american.....lol
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I have always thought him to be against feminists ... not women that "know their place" ... (that was supposed to be a joke ... Makow hates feminism.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
He's responsible for the anti-female agenda which has taken off like crazy, women are cunts and sluts and whores and don't know their place, lots of men are being brainwashed by his crap and the crap of others like him. I think that is made up. I think you are made up too. I think someone here brings you out to post when they want to make a point. I even have a theory of who you really are. But I wont say.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Since you failed to refute the argument, as usual, that statement earned you Zero debate points. You lose. Try again another time.
Nuke the jews, slit throats. What a classy lady.....not Stone people are just fed up with witnessing our country being systematically destroyed, especially those of us who remember when it was still normal, when there were still intact families with real mothers and fathers who raised children together, when people still helped each other out, when schools still taught people how to think and taught the dangers of totalitarian governments, it's just very disheartening to see all of this happening, watching the death of our country when it didn't have to happen.
Agree 100% with the entire statement. That leaves 3 choices. Fight, remain passive (and wait for some rapture mumbo jumbo to open the gulag gates), or leave.
Including the part about nuking the Jews and slitting throats ...
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
I was referring to Diana's words, not Stone's post.
O my god, stoney, you've finally gone over the edge. Told you you were headed that way, but did you listen? Hells no...
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. May I misquote you on that, Mayor?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestMatthew chapter 24 is a good read.
#17. To: robnoel (#15)
My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you
#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)
#19. To: robnoel (#12)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#21. To: robnoel (#18)
You are devout follower of Scoefield it's not a secret it's a fact you are a phoney Christian maybe you got that from your government education system
#22. To: robnoel (#15)
My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you
#23. To: robnoel (#20)
Thats rich coming from a American oh I forgot you are a product of government education...got a few Indians here in Arizona that would like to return the favour and scalp your sorry ass
#24. To: noone222 (#22)
I feel the same way about my country too. People like Old Friend (AKA Stone) are destroyers that abuse other people's good nature. To hell with them all.
#25. To: Original_Intent, Brian S, Lod, gengis gandhi (#1)
http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/22/mccains-pastor-hagee-loves-him-some-end-times/
#26. To: A K A Stone (#23)
#27. To: A K A Stone (#13)
#28. To: christine (#25)
By now you could mention the name John Hagee and immediately most people would quickly associate it with the term “great whore.” The reference, of course, is to Hagee’s now-notorious exposition on the Book of Revelation in which he describes the institution of the Catholic Church as a lascivious woman astride a horse in the biblical story on the end of the world.
#29. To: gengis gandhi (#27)
sell your cloak, buy a sword.
#30. To: robnoel (#26)
Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again...this time for good ....please move back to Israel your home country
#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)
#32. To: gengis gandhi (#31)
either way.
#33. To: christine, all (#25)
#34. To: robnoel (#26)
Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again
#35. To: Lod (#33)
To most here, Hagee, and his ilk, are certifiable.
#36. To: gengis gandhi (#31)
the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.
#37. To: christine (#25)
Hagee’s relationship with Bush dates back to his days as Governor of Texas; Hagee later endorsed Bush’s presidential candidacy in a book, God’s Candidate for America, and in 2003 proclaimed that God “raised up” Bush to “crush Saddam Hussein.”
Boss Hogg Pastor Hagee is a real piece of work.
#38. To: christine, gengis gandhi (#36)
the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.
#39. To: Original_Intent (#1)
I doubt we'll get past 20 years....
#40. To: noone222 (#8)
#41. To: Original_Intent (#37)
#42. To: Diana (#40)
Is Henry Makow one of those zionists intent on bringing down this country?
#43. To: KinkoTheKlown (#39)
#44. To: A K A Stone (#35)
#45. To: A K A Stone (#38)
#46. To: noone222 (#8)
#47. To: robnoel (#45)
For a American
#48. To: Diana (#46)
#49. To: Diana (#46)
Yup he is, just did a quick search.
#50. To: A K A Stone, all, lod (#43)
Is that you again lod? If not tell us your other screen names.
#51. To: A K A Stone (#13)
You are a murderer at heart like your father the devil.
#52. To: Diana (#51)
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people are just fed up with witnessing our country being systematically destroyed, especially those of us who remember when it was still normal, when there were still intact families with real mothers and fathers who raised children together, when people still helped each other out, when schools still taught people how to think and taught the dangers of totalitarian governments, it's just very disheartening to see all of this happening, watching the death of our country when it didn't have to happen.
#53. To: Diana, KinkoTheKlown (#52)
Agree 100% with the entire statement
#54. To: noone222 (#53)
#55. To: A K A Stone, Diana (#49)
I think that is made up. I think you are made up too. I think someone here brings you out to post when they want to make a point. I even have a theory of who you really are. But I wont say.
#56. To: KinkoTheKlown (#54)
I was referring to Diana's words, not Stone's post.
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