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Title: Pastor Hagee in Washington Today..Says World will end in 20 Years
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Published: Jul 23, 2009
Author: By Stephen K. Ryan
Post Date: 2009-07-23 19:31:12 by Brian S
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John Hagee brings his show to Washington D.C. this week. Over 4,000 Christians are gathering in Washington this week to advocate for Israel and simultaneously the end of times on Capitol Hill. The fourth annual summit of Christians United for Israel (CUFI) has brought together Christian leaders and supporters of Israel from around the country, starting Monday and continuing through Wednesday. Pastor Hagee is on the record saying he hopes to deliver his followers to heaven in a biblical moment of Rapture. What is so confounding to many are Pastor Hagee's pronouncements and prophesies, which are clearly at Israel's expense, yet Rev. Hagee is cheered on, unbelievably, by prominent Jewish leaders like ex-VP candidate and US Senator Joe Lieberman and TV commentator William Kristol. Senator Lieberman went so far as to call Mr. Hagee some kind of modern day "Moses" Here is what Mr. Hagee had to say on CNN in an interview with Glen Beck. HAGEE: Well, there are ten Bible signs that we`re living in the end of days CNN Glen BECK: End of the world as we know it in five years, 10 years, 20years? John HAGEE: I don`t think we`ll get past 20 years. for complete transcript click http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0710/12/gb.01.html
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Oh, No! The world is coming to an end! Pastor Hagee, who approves of mass murder for Israel, has spoken. To no less an authority than that renowned (trained in Israel) former drug addict, Shock Jock, and mental patient Glenn Dreck.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Hagee is so full of shit. Not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father knows the 'time.'
someone should slit the throat of that fat gluttonous queer and toss his jowled head over the fence of the whitehouse.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
Praise Hey-Sus! "America without her freedoms, is like a body without a soul" - Adam Kokesh
Your title is a lie. He was asked a question about how many years. He said " I don`t think we`ll get past 20 years." That is not the same as what the title of your article says. Your title makes it sound like he proclaimed it would be gone in 20 years instead of he just thinks so.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
That is true lodwick. But he didn't say it would be 20 years. He was guessing about 20 years after a direct question was put to him. Even though you are exactly 100 percent right that we don't know the exact time. We do know when it is near by the signs. The bible even talks about you will know it is near when x x and x happen. That it is the season. Matthew chapter 24 is a good read. Disclaimer. I don't mean to stick up for Hagee but people should be accurate. There is plenty of accurate ways to describe Hagee.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Defend your man Hagee a zionist just like you only difference...he admits it!
I heard Michael Medved singing the praises of this gluttonous pig a couple of days ago. Medved stated that he had been the featured speaker at a meeting of zio-nazis headed up by Hagee, called CUFI, Christians United For Israel. Jews like Medved are very dangerous. They're able to pass as semi-conservatives when in fact they're communists. They're communists infiltrators that are chipping away at the nations soul. Jews like Medved, Prager and Savage, patronize Christians and Christianity only because Israel needs the Christian kids to bleed and die for their bullshit. Jews like the aforementioned three took down Russia in 1917 and they're here to do the same thing. And to me it appears they're enjoying an immense amount of success because most Americans are dumb fucks afraid to call a spade a spade or a Jew a Jew.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
My man huh. lol. That is funny. Now tell me again why a South African is so interested in my countries issues. Answer that squatter.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Amen, my brother ... his head and that of his ilk. That was a 5 Star Presidential Post !!!!! *****
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Look up the definition of communist. It doesn't fit. Jesus was a Jew. A spade a spade huh. Those who hate wont enter into heaven. You know that right?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Yes my little zionist once again quoting from the Scoefield Reference Bible This might come as a shock to many serious, Bible-believing Christians, but the doctrine of dispensationalism was totally unknown to the Puritans, Pilgrims, Congregationalists, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians and others who were the early religious settlers of our nation. It was unknown to our founding fathers who were Christians. In fact, it was an unknown doctrine until the middle of the 19th century, yet almost all fundamental Christian denominations are espousing this product of John Nelson Darby and Dr. C. I. Scofield. Basically, the idea that national Israel has a key role in all end times events, that Israel must exist as a nation to bring about the end of this present age and the second advent of Christ comes straight out of the dispensational handbook as written by Dr. Scofield and promulgated by Dallas Theological Seminary. No such ideas ever prevailed in the early Church, the Reformation, or the Christian faith as practiced in the first hundred years of this nation's existence. Darby's theory of a "secret rapture" of the Church and of the separation of Israel and the Church were treated as oddities in Biblical teaching by his own Plymouth Brethren in England. Prior to that time, established doctrine treated national Israel's mission as bringing forth the Messiah and once that was accomplished, there was nothing more for national Israel to do in the service of the Kingdom of God. The Resurrection of Christ, as explained in the New Testament in detail by the Apostle Paul, had brought forth "one new man" from among Jews and Gentiles, and henceforth the earth consisted of two groups of people, those who were in God's Kingdom (the saved) and those who were not (the lost). Even St. Paul, in Romans, laments the fate of his Jewish brethren for rejecting their Messiah. What Darby produced was a doctrine of two "second comings" of Christ, one secret for the purpose of "rapturing" the church to heaven prior to the end times, and the second advent at the finale of end times prophecies for the judgment of the world. No hint of any such double advent is given by Jesus in His description of the end times given in Matthew chapter 24 or Luke chapter 21. From Darby's work, Dr. C. I. Scofield set about to advance his theories and produced an annotated "Scofield Bible of 1909" in which his dispensationalist doctrines, first devised by J. N. Darby, are set forth in the form of notes "explaining" the meaning of various passages of the Bible. For the past seventy years or so, the dispensationalist explanation of the book of Revelation and the 70th week of Daniel have dominated nearly all fundamental Christian denominations. They are, as a rule, rejected wholly by the liturgical churches that retain the Christian faith in its post-Reformation state of believing in the Church as God's people, whether in heaven or on earth (sometimes called the Church Universal), including both Jew and Gentile, and rejecting any role of a national Israel in Bible eschatology (end-time events). Having begun in late 1968 to find out about Christianity, my schooling has included just about every form of belief and doctrine being taught, but today the dominance of dispensationalism is influencing not only forms of belief in the Church, but in the way that Christian people look at Israel and the duties of the United States of America with regard to the nation of Israel. Do I anticipate a one-world government? Yes. That is entirely possible whether Israel exists as a nation or not. Would I be surprised at the rise of an antichrist at the helm of the one world government? No. Various forms of antichrists have existed since the birth of the Christian church, so to have one final world ruler, a position to which many have aspired throughout the ages, is not dispensationalist. Do I believe in a "zap rapture" of the church before all the troubles begin? No. I find that most people who are preoccupied with such a rapture are people with deep and serious problems on earth and who find that path of escape the most desirable idea presented in the churches that adhere to dispensationalism. It would be a magnificent exit to simply be swooped up by the Lord with all His people on earth and carried away from all our problems, pains and other sufferings here in this short lifetime. I simply do not believe that such a secret "second advent before the real second advent" is in the Bible. It has been put there by Dr. Scofield and taught with absolute authority by some of the most prominent Bible teachers and theologians in America, particularly those from Dallas Theological Seminary. Authors Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye have advanced the cause of dispensationalism with their books, some of which have gained the status of a latter-day gospel among their fans. While that's a normal flow of religion and delusion, it is not "the faith once delivered" or rightly dividing the word of truth. As a matter of fact, it is a form of "Christianity" that would have been labeled total apostasy during and after the Reformation and until the early 20th century when it took hold in America. All of this information regarding Scofield, Darby, dispensationalism and Christian thought is for a single purpose. It is to demonstrate that if American Christian churches had stuck to the faith of our fathers and the early Christian settlers in the colonies, even the faith preached from the pulpits through most of the nineteenth century, the United States would not be under the pressure it is today from the Christian churches whose adherents are ardent dispensationalists and believe in a restoration of Israel, the building of a third temple, and dozens of other tenets of dispensationalism. Without dispensationalism, we would have a nation still largely believing in the theology of the Reformation and hence Israel as a nation and political entity would have no influence on the Church, "the Israel of God" and the "one new man" of God's Kingdom, bought with His own blood. Dispensationalism places the Church under the delusion that Christians must support the nation of Israel at all costs in order to put things in place for Christ's secret return and eventually, at Armageddon (one of the most misunderstood words/ideas in the Bible) the final conflict between good and evil, Satan's minions and God's people. Almost every major error in the Church has either originated with a misunderstanding of the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to St. John on the Isle of Patmos. Other errors do occur, such as the snake handlers who "prove" their faith by handling vipers, but essentially the Book of the Revelation has been the source of most of the major doctrinal errors in the Christian faith, at least those arising after the Reformation. The theology of the Reformation as held by the LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, of which I became a member some years back) is basically the same doctrine as held by the founders of our nation, who were largely Calvinists. Luther and Calvin were contemporaries and had their differences, so the Lutheran church has some doctrinal differences with the Calvinist theology. But both reject the dispensationalist view as a latter day delusion brought about first by the popularity of a "rapture" that would allow Christians to escape all the world's evils, and then developing into a complete reliance of the Church's mission on the existence of a national Israel. This persuasion is so strong among fundamental Baptists and Pentecostals, Nazarenes and unaffiliated Bible and charismatic churches as to be the primary Christian doctrine in America today. The tragedy of all this lies in the influence of Darby and Scofield not only on the basic theological construct of the Christian faith as taught in fundamental Christian churches today, but in the influence those churches have on the national policies of our nation, without which the United States may very well not have the commitment it does to the Middle East and its myriad problems. Of course the commercial interests regarding oil would still influence both our foreign policy and our foreign strategy, but undergirding the US policies abroad are the dispensationalist Christian beliefs, just as fundamental Islamic beliefs underlie and provide underpinnings to their Jihads. Unfortunately, most Christians who go to church haven't a clue as to what the above essay says because they haven't the foggiest notion of theological constructs, never heard of Darby, might have heard of Scofield, and are just seeking the Kingdom of God and following their leaders. Come to think of it, that seems to be the reason we still have Republicans and Democrats who have changed their political constructs and no one notices or thinks it matters. Religion and politics really shouldn't mix with one another, but they do because of human nature. It is just well to remember that both are inflammatory and can produce, in fact will produce, a new holocaust on earth. Just give them a little more tim
Amen, my brother ... his head and that of his ilk. That was a 5 Star Presidential Post !!!!! ***** You are a murderer at heart like your father the devil. Nuke the jews, slit throats. What a classy lady.....not
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Has anybody introduced Hagee to Jim Robinson?? They should get along famously...
_________________________________________________________________________ My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you
Yes my little zionist once again quoting from the Scoefield Reference Bible Rob you cut and paste a lot. Rob Matthew chapter 24 is in all Bibles not just this scofield one you are so obsessed about. Was the education really that bad in your home South Africa?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Rob your ancestors murdered africans and stole the land. You are a squatter. Also your claim that I destroyed your country is pathetic and the talk of someone without the ability to speak the truth. Rob you should try being honest when you debate.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
You are devout follower of Scoefield it's not a secret it's a fact you are a phoney Christian maybe you got that from your government education system
By the way did you write those words or plagarize them?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Thats rich coming from a American oh I forgot you are a product of government education...got a few Indians here in Arizona that would like to return the favour and scalp your sorry ass
Rob I use the King James Bible. It is accurate Rob. Rob you aren't the judge of who is a christian. God determines who is a christian not Rob. Rob our government schools don't teach religion or talk about God anymore. Are you ok Rob, your not making a whole lot of sense?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I feel the same way about my country too. People like Old Friend (AKA Stone) are destroyers that abuse other people's good nature. To hell with them all.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Rob you always put an "an" before a word that starts with a vowel. Not an "a". So it is not "a american" it is "an american". Anyway what you said doesn't change the fact that your ancestors murdered africans and stole their land. Now why don't you get out of my country and go back and squat on someone elses land. Ok Rob.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
noone you really live up to your name. Lets see you call me a destroyer. But it is you talking about genocide (your nuke the jews comment). And now slitting the throat of your political enemies. Sounds like you are the abuser and destroyer.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
McCain’s Pastor Hagee Loves Him Some End Times Sarah Posner, May 2008 By now you could mention the name John Hagee and immediately most people would quickly associate it with the term “great whore.” The reference, of course, is to Hagee’s now-notorious exposition on the Book of Revelation in which he describes the institution of the Catholic Church as a lascivious woman astride a horse in the biblical story on the end of the world. Like all Hagee sermons, this one hardly serves as a model for scholarly exegesis. As he bumbled around, straining to fit the Biblical text into an elaborately illustrated historical timeline, Hagee let his animus towards what he calls “the apostate church” show. But the emphasis on Hagee’s clumsy diatribe misses a larger point: that Hagee was describing the Book of Revelation in terms that demonstrate how he thinks it is a real description of church history, a real forecast of the end of the world, and, as a result, a template for U.S. foreign policy. Most frighteningly of all, despite all of this, he and his Christians United for Israel (CUFI) are treated as a legitimate foreign policy voice in Washington by the Bush Administration, John McCain, and many other members and former members of Congress, including Joe Lieberman, who likened him to Moses, and even the Catholic Rick Santorum. Santorum told me last year that although he doesn’t share Hagee’s beliefs on the end-times, he appreciates his – er, foreign policy views. Trouble is, though, those two things can’t really be extricated from each other. In his book, Jerusalem Countdown, and in many other books and sermons over the years, Hagee describes how biblical prophecy should dictate U.S. policy, and how such policy will lead to the Second Coming of Christ. Hagee is popular in some Jewish circles because his view that God’s will prohibits any land concessions by the Israelis to the Palestinians is supposedly “supportive” of Israel. His views can only be deemed to be supportive of Israel, of course, if you think it should be embroiled in years of bloody war which culminate in the conversion or death of all the Jews. Hagee protests that he wants peace in Israel, but that peace will only happen when Christ comes again – after God decimates a Muslim army and a giant earthquake swallows the Dome of the Rock. For everyone whose feet are firmly planted in reality, however, his thirst for this bloody ending to the world as we know it defies his claim that he’s a peace-seeker. As Jeremy Ben-Ami, executive director of J Street, which brings a sane new voice to the Middle East policy debate in Washington, recently, Hagee “look[s] at the trade-offs that Israel must make to achieve peace -- and hope[s] to thwart them.” Like his friend Rod Parsley, who also endorsed McCain, Hagee believes Islam is satanic. Here’s how he described that view at the late Jerry Falwell’s church last fall: Satan wants Jerusalem for his messiah, the Antichrist. God has promised it to King David that his seed, Jesus Christ, shall rule over it forever and forever. People ask why can’t the Arabs and the Jews get together over this city? Listen to me: it is not about the two-state solution. It is not about money. It is not about land. It is about theology. . . . Muhammed taught a theology of triumphalism . . . .for Islam to rule the earth. The problem is that sitting in the throat of Islamic nations in the Middle East is Israel, who has an unconditional blood covenant with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that the land shall be theirs forever and forever. God did not loan the land to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He gave it to them by blood covenant, and the Book of Genesis and that covenant still stands. It is there regardless of what the United Nations wants. It is there regardless of what the U.S. State Department thinks. It is there in spite of what the Arab nations want. It belongs to Israel. . . . I am telling you there will be no lasting peace in the Middle East until the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ, returns to that sacred city and sets up his eternal kingdom. I’ve been writing about Hagee’s mad view that a war with Iran is presaged in the Bible for a couple of years now, and have written a new book, God’s Profits: Faith, Fraud, and the Republican Crusade for Values Voters, exposing Hagee’s (and other televangelists’) controversial prosperity gospel doctrine, bizarre views on Israel and the end-times, and cozy relationship with the Republican Party. His obsession with money, Armageddon, and the spiritual warfare that animates daily life are the core of his preaching week after week, not screeds against the Catholic Church. The fact that his anti-Catholicism became the centerpiece of media coverage of McCain’s “pastor problem” caused the press and the public to take their eyes off this ball. (Thanks, Bill Donohue!) The focus on Hagee’s disdain for the Catholic Church has eclipsed the fact that Hagee thinks that the roadmap for peace in the Middle East is against God’s will (and will bring God’s wrath on America in the form of hurricanes, floods, and even terrorist nuclear attacks) and that the Bible provides the real roadmap for U.S. policy. Hagee’s colossally illogical extension of this view is that diplomacy equals appeasement and war is the only answer. Sound familiar? If you’re wondering whether Hagee has had any impact on Bush, I’ve laid out how Bush’s appeasement speech comes straight out of the Hagee playbook. No accident: Hagee’s relationship with Bush dates back to his days as Governor of Texas; Hagee later endorsed Bush’s presidential candidacy in a book, God’s Candidate for America, and in 2003 proclaimed that God “raised up” Bush to “crush Saddam Hussein.” Let’s not let the Catholic League’s Donohue – who himself has issued anti- Semitic, anti-gay, and other derogatory slurs – dictate the terms of a vital conversation we all need to have about Hagee’s role in McCain’s campaign. Of course it makes for eye-popping video that Hagee used the term “great whore” and elsewhere suggested Adolf Hitler learned his anti-Semitism at Catholic school. Certainly if Hagee does think the Catholic Church should be blamed for the Holocaust, he should have to explain himself – something he tried to do last week, an effort that was clearly aimed at helping repair McCain’s image with Catholic voters. But Hagee’s fixation with Armageddon, and his ability to virally market that fixation to the shock troops through his daily television program and multi- million dollar ministry, has had a catastrophic impact on our Middle East policy. With a possible McCain presidency promising to be a third Bush term, none of us can afford to overlook that. +++++++ Bush is a luciferian. Hagee's endorsement of him as God's candidate for America is sick and evil. That Hagee has the following he does is proof that we're a nation of pathetic fawning sheep. baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again...this time for good ....please move back to Israel your home country
sell your cloak, buy a sword.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
I don't know about everything else you pasted. But if you read the Bible and the description of "the great whore" is very possibly the catholic church. I'm not sure but it is a possibility.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Yes Christ said that. But not to go and murder someone. It was for self defense.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Rob christine may not agree with me on Israel but she is pretty much for free speech and open debate. When you say you hate zionists then you call me a zionist. Well that is you trying to start some shit. Oh yes Rob one more thing. Unlike you I am American born. Your just an immigrant here to benefit from the work of me and my ancestors. You are not a very grateful immigrant.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
either way. the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present. as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present. as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time. Gengis I think you don't really mean it when you say to slit his throat. It isn't right and you know it. Unlike some other people who I think really think that way.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
To most here, Hagee, and his ilk, are certifiable.
Rob that isn't exactly true. I was never gone Rob. You should really get your facts straight before you talk Rob.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Lod that may be the majority opinion. It may be correct. But do you think the majority opinion is to "slit his throat". I don't think you are for that Lodwick. Your a much more sensible man.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time. i love the way you cut to the chase ;)
"God's Candidate"? Gag! Power vomit! "I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out' 7.62 beats kumbaya every time. i love the way you cut to the chase ;) That isn't really true. Read the declaration of independence and God is all over it. Read the constitution and it calls for a blessing. Not exactly accurate.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Oh, No! The world is coming to an end! Hagee doesn't know anything. Freedom's breath in the world came to an end a long time ago. Without that, might as well bring on the giant meteor, Hagee. I'll stand on the roof and watch it come in. The "prosperity" everyone so dearly coveted was stolen from them by the "chosen people" and now, sadly, many have lost everything. Only the protected class government leeches exist securely now on the legalized theft (taxes) from others.
Is Henry Makow one of those zionists intent on bringing down this country? That guy seems to have a very destructive agenda and is exceedingly clever about it.
Boss Hogg was correct.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
I hadn't considered Makow in that light at all.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Is that you again lod? If not tell us your other screen names.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
All in all, throat-slitting is not the way I want to go, or see others go. If you're speaking of defending yourself, your family, or your property, then deliver a few .45ACP rounds to the attackers, and be done with it. Throat slitting is just so passe.
For a American you sure don't even know your own Declaration of Independence it refers to a “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.
Yup he is, just did a quick search. He's responsible for the anti-female agenda which has taken off like crazy, women are cunts and sluts and whores and don't know their place, lots of men are being brainwashed by his crap and the crap of others like him. It's bad enough that they engage in race-baiting, but to attempt to separate the men and women goes against nature. I suppose it's being done so when they take us to the camps, the men will not protect their women (these evil bastards hope anyway).
lol it wasn't a typo. You said it twice now. a american.....lol
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I have always thought him to be against feminists ... not women that "know their place" ... (that was supposed to be a joke ... Makow hates feminism.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
He's responsible for the anti-female agenda which has taken off like crazy, women are cunts and sluts and whores and don't know their place, lots of men are being brainwashed by his crap and the crap of others like him. I think that is made up. I think you are made up too. I think someone here brings you out to post when they want to make a point. I even have a theory of who you really are. But I wont say.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Since you failed to refute the argument, as usual, that statement earned you Zero debate points. You lose. Try again another time.
Nuke the jews, slit throats. What a classy lady.....not Stone people are just fed up with witnessing our country being systematically destroyed, especially those of us who remember when it was still normal, when there were still intact families with real mothers and fathers who raised children together, when people still helped each other out, when schools still taught people how to think and taught the dangers of totalitarian governments, it's just very disheartening to see all of this happening, watching the death of our country when it didn't have to happen.
Agree 100% with the entire statement. That leaves 3 choices. Fight, remain passive (and wait for some rapture mumbo jumbo to open the gulag gates), or leave.
Including the part about nuking the Jews and slitting throats ...
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
I was referring to Diana's words, not Stone's post.
O my god, stoney, you've finally gone over the edge. Told you you were headed that way, but did you listen? Hells no...
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. May I misquote you on that, Mayor?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. That's because he's one of the most insidious. He's the ultimate con artist, he's one of those guys who would have been there in 1917 Russia. He's one of the most skilled propaganda artists because he knows just how to zone in on people's weaknesses and exploits them, thereby poisoning their souls and causing more division.
Have you read his web page ... www.savethemales.ca
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
To Stone: Why would someone quite capable of making a point themselves, "bring out" someone else to make a point for them? Step away from the bong. Are you really that blind to the destruction of this country and who helped it along?
If you're speaking of defending yourself, your family, or your property, then deliver a few .45ACP rounds to the attackers, and be done with it. Throat slitting is just so passe. I just want to stay in my self-imposed exile until I die. I am so disgusted over what is happening to this country and it's people. I'm so disappointed at how easily brainwashed people are and how they have proved to be so easily led to evil.
How did you know I was the Mayor? Ok, who do you work for you...you...infiltrator!!
Hey clown. There are lots of reasons we are swirling down the toilet. To complicated to blame on one entity or person.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I don't think Makow is evil talmudic creep, he certainly makes clear his objections to Zionist collective. As far as the SaveTheMales stuff, I think radical feminism kinda spooky too, eh?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. As far as the SaveTheMales stuff, I think radical feminism kinda spooky too, eh? I had the same opinion as you, Dakmar.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
That's why London invented Wahabism.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Stone, if there is anything I have learned this past year it's that people often project their own flaws/weaknesses onto others. To me that is a crazy assertion, I'm one of those people who is too honest for her own good. However you are free to believe whatever you want. As far as Makow, I've read too much by men who are fervent followers of this guy, and they say really vile things about women. I'm not sure why he rails against "feminism", the only thing I know about feminism is that it was a movement in the 60s, the end result of it all was women were forced into the workplace, their children abandoned to daycare. Now it's even worse, with girls getting pregnant, father (whoever he may be) moves on to impregnate the next. Everyone loses, especailly society as a whole as societies are built on a strong family unit.
until when? :)
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. WTF are you talking about? Talk to Kinko if you want to cozy with him/her.
Hey clown. There are lots of reasons we are swirling down the toilet. To complicated to blame on one entity or person. You are mistaking symptoms for causes. The causal forces are simple - Bankers and Psychiatrists. The banksters are busy trying to control the world and the mad psychotics called Psychiatrists are busy trying to kill and dominate everyone. It is quite that simple.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Did I mention only one entity or person in my post...clown? There are several, including the one you so dearly defend.
That's why he rails against it. Feminism was a 'gift' to us from the same folks who bought us "big government conservatism" - operation mockingbird.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Leave to where though? Most all countries hate Americans now, it's like we are stuck. I'm not a fighter by nature, though I do get pissed. I'm not a rapture nutter either, so that's not an option. So for me at this point I'm going to stay in the US, but continue to live as far away from civilization as possible while still remaining in this brutal country. I live in rural Alaska off the road system, our friend Stone does not believe me though, which is a Stone thing.
You bad...
You are blessed. I'd be there, too, if resources allowed. You're in one of the last places in the US (or on Earth) that will ever be touched by what is to come.
My take on Makow's disgust with feminism was that he sees it as undermining the family and the country. I've read a considerable amount of his stuff without coming to the same conclusion you did. He's anti-zionist and anti-Rothschild Bankers.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Totally correct, D. Good reply, thank you.
I think it's funny. I was even thinking of making up some sort of alter-ego of myself for him to make him feel better.
I guess not. But around these parts of the net there seems to be a very consistent theme of who is to blame for everything. At least you aren't blaming everything on that one entity. Who do I so dearly defend? Hagee?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I was right about nigger jim being a retread......lod I was right about grace is your lord or whatever he called himself being buckeroo. I am right about you too.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Talk to Kinko if you want to cozy with him/her. Just guessing. Sorry to offend you nigger jim.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Dr. Henry Makow’s latest book, Illuminati: The Cult That Hijacked the World (Winnipeg, Silas Green, 2008). By the way, Dr. Henry is a Jew. All his grandparents were killed by the Nazis. His parents survived only by pretending not to be Jewish. Dr. Henry has lived in Israel and used to be a Zionist. Is he credible yet? He writes that in 1925 Germany’s 500,000 Jews were either overwhelmingly indifferent or actively hostile to Zionism. They wanted to assimilate and opposed anti-Semitism. But the predatory Zionists welcomed Nazi anti-Semitism. Both Zionists and Nazis agreed Jews should not be in Germany. They collaborated. Zionists did not protest Nazi persecution; for instance, when the Nazis fired two thousand Jews from the universities they uttered not a peep. Dr. Makow writes (p. 145): “. . . Adolph Eichmann set up agricultural training camps in Austria to prepare young Jews for Kibbutz life. He visited Palestine and conferred with Zionist leaders who confessed their true expansionist goals. There was even talk of a strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and Jewish Palestine. His report is in Himmler’s Archives.” That’s right! Adolph Eichmann was a Zionist. Didn’t you know? He was persecuted as a child because he looked Jewish. He associated with Jews. As a Gestapo officer, he learned Hebrew, visited Palestine and worked closely with Zionists preparing Jews for emigration. These are just a few examples of such connections. Now, why did the Holocaust happen? Again, it happened, and could only have happened, because the predatory Red “Labor” Zionists collaborated with the Nazis to inflict it. Hannah Arendt was a Jewish philosopher. Our Communist media and academia have bedecked her with enormous credibility. In Eichmann in Jerusalem (New York: Penguin Books, 1977), she writes: “In Amsterdam as in Warsaw, in Berlin as in Budapest, Jewish officials could be trusted to . . . supply police forces to help seize Jews and get them on trains, until, as a last gesture, they handed over the assets of the Jewish community in good order for final confiscation. . . .” (P. 117) Without that intervention, she says (p. 125), far fewer victims would have died. Why did they do it? World Zionist Organization official Nathan Schwalb explained in 1942 why the Zionists refused to pay Berlin a mere $2 million to save all the Jews in Europe: “. . . [A]ll the Allied nations are spilling much of their blood, and if we do not sacrifice any blood, by what right shall we merit coming before the bargaining table when they divide nations and lands at the war’s end? . . . for only with blood shall we get the land.” (Makow, p. 148) Top Zionist celebrities do not deny this. In 1958, former Israeli Prime Minister Moshe Sharett said at a memorial: “Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save the many.” This worked out to mean kill many Jews to save a few.
WTF are you talking about? Talk to Kinko if you want to cozy with him/her. Whatever he's on I'd like some of it. On second thought, perhaps not.
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In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. He is always accusing others of being deceitful; he's always refused to believe I live in Alaska. I guess he thinks no one lives in Alaska. Maybe Stone pretends to be something HE is not, maybe he is not even a Christian at all.
quit being a dork. Diana is not a sock puppet.
I think it's hilarious, I can almost imagine you phase-shifting right before Stone's very eyes..
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. All the so-called 'pastors' of 501(c)(3) businesses masquerading as churches will instruct their 'congregation' to turn the other cheek and render unto Caesar at that point. Throw in a little "You'll burn in Hell for questioning authorities!!" and the 'pastors' will have done their job.
_________________________________________________________________________ I certainly believe radical feminism is spooky, but where are all these radical feminists?? Granted I've been somewhat sheltered for some years now, I do know there are lesbian college professors in the NE who espouse radical feminism, but they are weirdos, few and far between, and historically most of those feminists have actually been radical lesbians, so they have no need for men in their lives. They certainly don't represent normal women. Most women want boyfriends or husbands and would dearly love to be able to raise their own children.
I always get worried when I see posts to me from you. It is my honest opinion that she is. But who knows I could be wrong. But I wasn't wrong about NJ and grace. By the way when did you know grace was buck or when did you suspect it? That is if you are allowed to give out that sensitive information.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Correct, she's the orange Space Invaders character!
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Ellen the degenerate. Rachel Maddow, Rosie the Donut, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer. They are stinky feminists. Sarah Palin on the other hand is a real woman.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I have a problem with the 501 c's also. But do you think they are all bad?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
lodwick said from the getgo he was going to create the NJ account in honor of Mark Twain. as for grace, buckeroo has a footprint like no one else's. his verbiage and style is rather unique.
Academia seems a good starting point to trace the enloonening of this country over the past 50 years. It's too easy to think of communists as gimme gimme gimme street people types, but I ask everyone to take a breath and a step back and ask themselves how many university boards of directors the street people they encounter in their day-to-day lives encounter.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. I didn't hear lod announce that. I could tell it was a regular poster though. Honestly I thought it was Tull. It seemed more like his personality to joke around like that. Afterall he made a screen on my site once called "one angry jew" or something like that. He even had a nice little pic to go with it.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Absolutely. Once they take on that tax-status they forfeit their ability to function as a real church and criticize the immorality of politicians and FedGov.
_________________________________________________________________________ As far as the SaveTheMales stuff, I think radical feminism kinda spooky too, eh? Dakmar these are some of the things I've read recently from men who are fans of Makow and this sort of thinking: "What a stupid fucking cunt" "Slap the bitch until she realizes who's boss" "Women are replaceable, tell her to take her worthless belongings and leave if she refuses to abide by your authority" "Men make the rules; if the woman complains, you must let her know who is boss, if she refuses, kick her ass out the door" "When she tries to argue with you, punish her by putting her in her place" and of course "the stupid fucking cunt, women are all worthless cunts..." etc. These are not nice or healthy attitudes. I never saw or read that sort of thing until the past couple of years where it's taken off like gangbusters. I find it worrisome because as I mentioned, if/when they start to take people away, men will be less likely to protect women, I think that is the whole point. I do hope I'm wrong.
It makes no sense to say "Jesus was". Jesus IS the Son of God. The only reason He is referred to as being a Jew is because at the time Judaism was the faith of most Israelites. He repeatedly taught/warned those of the Jewish faith that they were much far too busy justifying their acts, practices and faith on "man made" law instead of heeding that which His Father repeatedly told them they were to do. Judaism then and now, like many if not all other "religions", infected the Lord's Law/Word with their own laws and desires. Mark 10:2-5 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. Luke 11:35 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.
Guys, just please try to keep an open mind, please if you have time look into him some more, I sure am going to.
Yes it is. I kind of like him when he isn't going after me. I may joke about him getting drunk and letting the Mexicans cross. But it is only a joke....OK Buck.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
The Soviets were big into psychiatrists. They put dissidents into insane asylums and put them on bad drugs, pretty much torturing them, something the Soviet leaders were very fond of doing. I see so many similarities to the way things operated in the Soviet Union, way too many. So much of this has transpired since Bush took office, and things will only get much worse from here on out. This has been planned for a very long time.
Those are certainly some ugly quotes. I can see why you would have a negative opinion of Makow. I always thought of him as flakey but kind of like Phyliss Schlafly on feminism. For the record, I love women and support equal pay and opportunity, I guess what's called "equity feminism". Wonderful idea! The "feminism" worrisome to Makow, myself, and others has its roots in bolshevism if you ask me: In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Jesus IS the Son of God. What you said is true. Not just the 5 words above. I have come to respect you.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I used to go to a church. It was 501 c. The pastor critiized the govt. This was back when Clinton was Prez.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
The Soviets were big into psychiatrists. They put dissidents into insane asylums and put them on bad drugs, pretty much torturing them, something the Soviet leaders were very fond of doing. I see so many similarities to the way things operated in the Soviet Union, way too many. So much of this has transpired since Bush took office, and things will only get much worse from here on out. This has been planned for a very long time. If Oh'Bummer's National Hellthcare passes that is exactly what we have. They even have authorization for defining which doctors can write a Mandatory End of Life Order. I just got that from Devvy Kidd listening to her on the Rense Program.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
There are actually quite a few jobs in the rural (off the road system) areas in Alaska, as most people can't put up with the culture shock and lack of goods and services. At least in these places neighbors and friends stick close together and help each other out, but I do get homesick, but what I am homesick for does not exist anymore as this country has gone downhill so fast these past ten years. Cruelty seems to be the order of the day, torture movies are popular, rudeness seems to be the normal way to operate, now there's this men hating women stuff, the guys with shaved heads who are into the whole aggression thing, too many are into militant hatred with urges to kill (that's why I get so confused when I hear remarks about "the pussification of America"), it all just makes me sick. So I refuse to ever go back. Even though this place has it's downsides, I never have to lock my door, the culture here is so different it's the next best thing to living in another country, and we get food from the land, and you learn a lot about survival.
I was right about grace is your lord or whatever he called himself being buckeroo. I am right about you too. So tell me who I really am. I'd like to know! Or at least tell me if I'm even male or female, am I someone else on this forum??
I can't do that. I might get wacked.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Aha, so you ARE the Mossad agent disguised as the bowling-alley call girl who spilled the floor wax on my onion rings?
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Group asks IRS to investigate churches for hosting Democratic leaders' speeches By Robert Marus Wednesday, September 08, 2004 WASHINGTON (ABP) -- A religious-liberty group often accused of attacking conservative churches for political activity has criticized two progressive Baptist congregations for Democratic advocacy. Americans United for Separation of Church and state is asking the Internal Revenue Service to investigate New Birth Baptist Church in Miami for hosting what the group called a "Democratic rally" during an Aug. 29 worship service. At the service, which featured Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe and Democratic political activist Al Sharpton, speakers urged the congregation to defeat President Bush in his bid for re-election. "Bush has misled us for four years and will not mislead us the next four years. Get out and vote, and we'll send Bush back to Texas," McAulliffe said, according to Americans United. Churches and other non-profit groups organized under Section 501(c)(3) of the federal tax codes are not allowed to endorse political parties or candidates without risking loss of their tax-exempt status. However, churches may host voter registration drives and educational activities as long as they are done in a non-partisan fashion. In his complaint to the IRS, AU's executive director, Barry Lynn, said New Birth's actions went beyond that. "This event seems to have gone beyond legitimate voter education about issues," he wrote. "Rather, the event was partisan in its approach and included only Democrats. It promoted Democratic candidates while disparaging Republicans.… I urge you to take appropriate action to correct this abuse of the law." Americans United also criticized -- although it stopped short of asking for officials to investigate -- an Aug. 29 speech by former President Bill Clinton at the famously liberal Riverside Church in New York City. Clinton's speech, which was timed for the beginning of the Republican National Convention in New York, was highly critical of Bush's policies. However, Clinton did not directly endorse Bush's challenger, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry. Riverside Church is dually affiliated with the American Baptist Churches and the United Church of Christ. "The difference between the Florida and the Riverside cases is that you in Florida, you had the chairman of the Democratic National Committee basically telling people how to vote -- not just criticizing the shortcomings of a candidate," Lynn told an Associated Baptist Press reporter. "Bill Clinton's speech…came right to the edge of the cliff, but stopped short of a direct candidate endorsement." AU has regularly criticized -- and sometimes reported -- conservative churches and ministries for appearing to endorse Republican candidates. In recent months, the group has asked IRS officials to investigate Virginia Baptist pastor and television preacher Jerry Falwell as well as Arkansas Baptist pastor Ronnie Floyd for endorsing Bush. It also criticized an Aug. 24 chapel speech that Falwell gave at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth. "I'm appalled by both of them," Lynn said of Falwell and Clinton's respective speeches. "I think that it's deplorable when political leaders or religious leaders -- a Jerry Falwell or a Bill Clinton -- kind of skirt the law and turn a religious institution almost into a political entity." Several conservative groups have pushed in the last two years to pass legislation, sponsored by Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) that would end the ban on politicking by churches and other houses of worship. AU and other church-state separationist groups have strongly opposed the bill. Bill Murray, a Virginia-based conservative religious activist whose biggest claim to fame is being the born-again son of the late atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair, is one of AU's fiercest critics. He backs the Jones bill, and recently started a satirical organization to "rat out liberal churches" for political involvement. He told Associated Baptist Press that Lynn, through AU, "does nothing but attack conservatives in order to help liberals get into political office." Murray also accused AU of reporting the Miami church only to avoid criticism that the group only attacked partisan churches. "This is just grandstanding to pretend that he is being non-partisan," he said, noting that the conservative Catholic League reported the political activity at New Birth Baptist a day before AU did. "As of two weeks ago, [AU] had only reported two liberal churches" to the IRS, he said. AU spokesman Joe Conn told ABP that his group hadn't waited on the Catholic League to report the Miami church to the IRS, but simply took longer to investigate the situation carefully before deciding to report New Birth for violations of the law. Conn also called Murray's accusations of partisanship on AU's part unjustified. "Our first interest in this was [church endorsements of Democratic presidential candidate] Jesse Jackson back in '88, so it's hardly a partisan effort on our part," he said. According to a document the group provided to ABP, of the 52 churches AU has reported to the IRS since 1992 for inappropriate political activity, 31 were accused of activity in support of conservative candidates, while 21 were accused of activity in support of liberal candidates. Source: http://www.abpnews.com/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=1823&Itemid=117
_________________________________________________________________________ I never doubted that the government does this bullcrap. I was just saying smaller churches can get away with it. But it does bring up the whole two masters thing that the word warns us about.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Ellen the degenerate. Rachel Maddow, Rosie the Donut, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer. They are stinky feminists. Sarah Palin on the other hand is a real woman. Ellen and Rosie are lesbians, and our media promotes homosexuality. I don't know who Rachel Maddow is, the others are harpie politicians. These women do not at all represent the average women. But the media likes to throw them in our face as role models, which goes against nature and common sense to have such women as role models. Granted many women are confused these days on many issues as they are bombarded with destructive propaganda as well, for one they are encouraged to be sexually loose, which again weakens the family unit. As far as Sarah Palin goes, at first I didn't like her at all because she is not a very nice person in real life, however I agree with most of her political beliefs. She was railroaded by the media because she was truly guided by her opinions, which are very strong, and she bucked the system. However I do disagree with her proposals to let mines wreck havac in Alaska, but even Lisa Murkowski who I like very much seems to be going along with the mines spewing their higly toxic pollution all over the place.
I think of communists as grim, humorless power freaks who like to impose lots of rules on the masses they get off on controlling. Even out here I notice all the new rules, also this thing with confidentiality, that word is starting to scare me. The more we are told about confidentiality, the more personal information is required of us. For instance, at our one and only hospital where all doctors and dentists in this region are located, they have started to have everyone who comes in sign papers to disclose how much money they make, they want copies of our tax records, and pay stubs to indicate how much money we've made this year to date. Also we must furnish them with our monthly expenses. This is something everyone must do, from people with good insurance so the natives who always got free health care. Yet they tell us they value our confidentiality.
Corollary 1: Since there are many many humans who make many guesses every year, the odds are very small for the next year. Corollary 2: Get worried when they all agree. Not because they're right, but because they leave too many numbers uncovered at the roulette table.
“The blacks are very vain but in the Negroes’ way, and so talkative that they must be driven apart with thrashings.” -- Immanuel Kant “I’m apt to suspect the negroes to be naturally inferior to the whites.” -- David Hume I have to admit I like your isolation but I am not wild about the winters. I spent time growing up in that climate zone - when it got up to 15 in the winter I though of it as warm. I am not eager to live through those kind of winters anymore. Snow from September to May is not my idea of hospitable. Although I do like the fishing. ;-) I have to admit that I miss the days when I thought a 14 inch trout was almost too small to keep.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
I've been thinking that could very possibly happen under Obama's health care program, forced euthanasia. I believe he already wants to limit health care services for those over 60.
PM me to tell me then! I'm really curious who you think I am, and I promise I won't tell.
OK ... he's been interviewed numerous times on alternative (internet) radio too.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Great Post Rob. I hesitated to say much about Makow even though I've spoken with him once and read much of his written stuff because I may have missed something. I have seen him as one of the few honest Jews with a public voice. It's guys like Makow that make it impossible to simply eradicate all of the Jews. Innocent Jews suffer the damage created by a zionazi cabal at the top funded by Rothschilds.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
You are curious if I know who you are. You will have to remain curious.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
You want to get rid of them real bad. In a Hitler kind of way. Disgusting.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#2. To: Brian S, all (#0)
#3. To: Brian S (#0)
#4. To: Brian S (#0)
Pastor Hagee is on the record saying he hopes to deliver his followers to heaven in a biblical moment of Rapture.
#5. To: Brian S, christine (#0)
#6. To: Lod (#2)
Not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father knows the 'time.'
#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)
#8. To: Brian S (#0)
#9. To: robnoel (#7)
Defend your man Hagee a zionist just like you only difference...he admits it!
#10. To: gengis gandhi (#3)
someone should slit the throat of that fat gluttonous queer and toss his jowled head over the fence of the whitehouse.
#11. To: noone222 (#8)
ews like Medved are very dangerous. They're able to pass as semi-conservatives when in fact they're communists. They're communists infiltrators that are chipping away at the nations soul. Jews like Medved, Prager and Savage, patronize Christians and Christianity only because Israel needs the Christian kids to bleed and die for their bullshit. Jews like the aforementioned three took down Russia in 1917 and they're here to do the same thing. And to me it appears they're enjoying an immense amount of success because most Americans are dumb fucks afraid to call a spade a spade or a Jew a Jew.
#12. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Matthew chapter 24 is a good read.
#13. To: noone222, christine (#10)
someone should slit the throat of that fat gluttonous queer and toss his jowled head over the fence of the whitehouse.
#14. To: Brian S (#0)
HAGEE: Well, there are ten Bible signs that we`re living in the end of days
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#15. To: A K A Stone (#9)
My man huh. lol. That is funny. Now tell me again why a South African is so interested in my countries issues. Answer that squatter.
#16. To: robnoel (#12)
Matthew chapter 24 is a good read.
#17. To: robnoel (#15)
My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you
#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)
#19. To: robnoel (#12)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#21. To: robnoel (#18)
You are devout follower of Scoefield it's not a secret it's a fact you are a phoney Christian maybe you got that from your government education system
#22. To: robnoel (#15)
My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you
#23. To: robnoel (#20)
Thats rich coming from a American oh I forgot you are a product of government education...got a few Indians here in Arizona that would like to return the favour and scalp your sorry ass
#24. To: noone222 (#22)
I feel the same way about my country too. People like Old Friend (AKA Stone) are destroyers that abuse other people's good nature. To hell with them all.
#25. To: Original_Intent, Brian S, Lod, gengis gandhi (#1)
http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/22/mccains-pastor-hagee-loves-him-some-end-times/
#26. To: A K A Stone (#23)
#27. To: A K A Stone (#13)
#28. To: christine (#25)
By now you could mention the name John Hagee and immediately most people would quickly associate it with the term “great whore.” The reference, of course, is to Hagee’s now-notorious exposition on the Book of Revelation in which he describes the institution of the Catholic Church as a lascivious woman astride a horse in the biblical story on the end of the world.
#29. To: gengis gandhi (#27)
sell your cloak, buy a sword.
#30. To: robnoel (#26)
Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again...this time for good ....please move back to Israel your home country
#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)
#32. To: gengis gandhi (#31)
either way.
#33. To: christine, all (#25)
#34. To: robnoel (#26)
Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again
#35. To: Lod (#33)
To most here, Hagee, and his ilk, are certifiable.
#36. To: gengis gandhi (#31)
the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.
#37. To: christine (#25)
Hagee’s relationship with Bush dates back to his days as Governor of Texas; Hagee later endorsed Bush’s presidential candidacy in a book, God’s Candidate for America, and in 2003 proclaimed that God “raised up” Bush to “crush Saddam Hussein.”
Boss Hogg Pastor Hagee is a real piece of work.
#38. To: christine, gengis gandhi (#36)
the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.
#39. To: Original_Intent (#1)
I doubt we'll get past 20 years....
#40. To: noone222 (#8)
#41. To: Original_Intent (#37)
#42. To: Diana (#40)
Is Henry Makow one of those zionists intent on bringing down this country?
#43. To: KinkoTheKlown (#39)
#44. To: A K A Stone (#35)
#45. To: A K A Stone (#38)
#46. To: noone222 (#8)
#47. To: robnoel (#45)
For a American
#48. To: Diana (#46)
#49. To: Diana (#46)
Yup he is, just did a quick search.
#50. To: A K A Stone, all, lod (#43)
Is that you again lod? If not tell us your other screen names.
#51. To: A K A Stone (#13)
You are a murderer at heart like your father the devil.
#52. To: Diana (#51)
(Edited)
people are just fed up with witnessing our country being systematically destroyed, especially those of us who remember when it was still normal, when there were still intact families with real mothers and fathers who raised children together, when people still helped each other out, when schools still taught people how to think and taught the dangers of totalitarian governments, it's just very disheartening to see all of this happening, watching the death of our country when it didn't have to happen.
#53. To: Diana, KinkoTheKlown (#52)
Agree 100% with the entire statement
#54. To: noone222 (#53)
#55. To: A K A Stone, Diana (#49)
I think that is made up. I think you are made up too. I think someone here brings you out to post when they want to make a point. I even have a theory of who you really are. But I wont say.
#56. To: KinkoTheKlown (#54)
I was referring to Diana's words, not Stone's post.
#57. To: noone222 (#42)
I hadn't considered Makow in that light at all.
#58. To: Diana (#57)
#59. To: A K A Stone, Diana (#49)
I think someone here brings you out to post when they want to make a point. I even have a theory of who you really are. But I wont say.
#60. To: Lod (#44)
All in all, throat-slitting is not the way I want to go, or see others go.
#61. To: Dakmar (#56)
May I misquote you on that, Mayor?
#62. To: KinkoTheKlown (#59)
Are you really that blind to the destruction of this country and who helped it along?
#63. To: noone222, Diana (#58)
#64. To: Dakmar, Diana (#63)
I don't think Makow is evil talmudic creep, he certainly makes clear his objections to Zionist collective.
#65. To: A K A Stone (#62)
To complicated to blame on one entity or person.
#66. To: A K A Stone (#49)
I think that is made up. I think you are made up too. I think someone here brings you out to post when they want to make a point. I even have a theory of who you really are. But I wont say.
#67. To: noone222 (#64)
I had the same opinion as you, Dakmar.
#68. To: A K A Stone (#43)
Is that you again lod? If not tell us your other screen names.
#69. To: A K A Stone, KinkoTheKlown (#62)
Are you really that blind to the destruction of this country and who helped it along?
#70. To: A K A Stone (#62)
Hey clown. There are lots of reasons we are swirling down the toilet. To complicated to blame on one entity or person.
#71. To: Diana (#66)
I'm not sure why he rails against "feminism", the only thing I know about feminism is that it was a movement in the 60s, the end result of it all was women were forced into the workplace, their children abandoned to daycare.
#72. To: KinkoTheKlown (#52)
Agree 100% with the entire statement. That leaves 3 choices. Fight, remain passive (and wait for some rapture mumbo jumbo to open the gulag gates), or leave.
#73. To: noone222 (#53)
Agree 100% with the entire statement Including the part about nuking the Jews and slitting throats ...
#74. To: Diana (#72)
I live in rural Alaska off the road system
#75. To: Diana (#66)
#76. To: Diana (#66)
Now it's even worse, with girls getting pregnant, father (whoever he may be) moves on to impregnate the next. Everyone loses, especailly society as a whole as societies are built on a strong family unit.
#77. To: Dakmar (#55)
I think that is made up. I think you are made up too. I think someone here brings you out to post when they want to make a point. I even have a theory of who you really are. But I wont say. O my god, stoney, you've finally gone over the edge. Told you you were headed that way, but did you listen? Hells no...
#78. To: KinkoTheKlown (#70)
Did I mention only one entity or person in my post...clown? There are several, including the one you so dearly defend.
#79. To: Diana (#77)
#80. To: Lod (#68)
WTF are you talking about?
#81. To: noone222 (#75)
#82. To: Lod, all (#68)
Is that you again lod? If not tell us your other screen names.
#83. To: A K A Stone (#79)
I was right about nigger jim being a retread......lod
#84. To: KinkoTheKlown (#59)
To Stone: Why would someone quite capable of making a point themselves, "bring out" someone else to make a point for them? Step away from the bong. Are you really that blind to the destruction of this country and who helped it along?
#85. To: A K A Stone (#49)
#86. To: Diana, AKAStoned (#77)
I think it's funny.
#87. To: robnoel (#12)
Do I anticipate a one-world government? Yes.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#88. To: Dakmar (#63)
As far as the SaveTheMales stuff, I think radical feminism kinda spooky too, eh?
#89. To: christine (#85)
quit being a dork. Diana is not a sock puppet.
#90. To: christine (#85)
Diana is not a sock puppet.
#91. To: Diana (#88)
but where are all these radical feminists??
#92. To: X-15 (#87)
All the so-called 'pastors' of 501(c)(3) businesses masquerading as churches will instruct their 'congregation' to turn the other cheek and render unto Caesar at that point. Throw in a little "You'll burn in Hell for questioning authorities!!" and the 'pastors' will have done their job.
#93. To: A K A Stone (#89)
#94. To: Diana (#88)
(Edited)
#95. To: christine, Jethro Tull. (#93)
lodwick said from the getgo he was going to create the NJ account in honor of Mark Twain. as for grace, buckeroo has a footprint like no one else's. his verbiage and style is rather unique.
#96. To: A K A Stone (#92)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#97. To: Dakmar (#63)
I don't think Makow is evil talmudic creep, he certainly makes clear his objections to Zionist collective.
#98. To: A K A Stone (#11)
#99. To: noone222, Dakmar (#64)
I had the same opinion as you, Dakmar.
#100. To: christine, buckeroo (#93)
buckeroo has a footprint like no one else's. his verbiage and style is rather unique.
#101. To: Original_Intent (#69)
The banksters are busy trying to control the world and the mad psychotics called Psychiatrists are busy trying to kill and dominate everyone. It is quite that simple.
#102. To: Diana (#97)
(Edited)
#103. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#98)
It makes no sense to say "Jesus was". Jesus IS the Son of God. The only reason He is referred to as being a Jew is because at the time Judaism was the faith of most Israelites. He repeatedly taught/warned those of the Jewish faith that they were much far too busy justifying their acts, practices and faith on "man made" law instead of heeding that which His Father repeatedly told them they were to do. Judaism then and now, like many if not all other "religions", infected the Lord's Law/Word with their own laws and desires.
#104. To: X-15 (#96)
Absolutely. Once they take on that tax-status they forfeit their ability to function as a real church and criticize the immorality of politicians and FedGov.
#105. To: Diana (#101)
The banksters are busy trying to control the world and the mad psychotics called Psychiatrists are busy trying to kill and dominate everyone. It is quite that simple.
#106. To: KinkoTheKlown (#74)
You are blessed. I'd be there, too, if resources allowed. You're in one of the last places in the US (or on Earth) that will ever be touched by what is to come.
#107. To: A K A Stone (#79)
I was right about nigger jim being a retread......lod
#108. To: Diana (#107)
So tell me who I really am. I'd like to know! Or at least tell me if I'm even male or female, am I someone else on this forum??
#109. To: A K A Stone (#108)
I can't do that. I might get wacked.
#110. To: Brian S (#0)
#111. To: A K A Stone (#104)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#112. To: X-15 (#111)
#113. To: A K A Stone (#91)
#114. To: Dakmar (#94)
It's too easy to think of communists as gimme gimme gimme street people types, but I ask everyone to take a breath and a step back and ask themselves how many university boards of directors the street people they encounter in their day-to-day lives encounter.
#115. To: Lod (#2)
Not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father knows the 'time.'
#116. To: Diana (#114)
#117. To: Original_Intent (#105)
If Oh'Bummer's National Hellthcare passes that is exactly what we have. They even have authorization for defining which doctors can write a Mandatory End of Life Order. I just got that from Devvy Kidd listening to her on the Rense Program.
#118. To: A K A Stone (#108)
I can't do that. I might get wacked.
#119. To: Diana (#99)
keep an open mind ... look into him some more
#120. To: robnoel (#81)
#121. To: Diana (#118)
PM me to tell me then! I'm really curious who you think I am, and I promise I won't tell.
#122. To: noone222 (#120)
simply eradicate all of the Jews
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