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Title: Pastor Hagee in Washington Today..Says World will end in 20 Years
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Published: Jul 23, 2009
Author: By Stephen K. Ryan
Post Date: 2009-07-23 19:31:12 by Brian S
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Comments: 122

John Hagee brings his show to Washington D.C. this week.

Over 4,000 Christians are gathering in Washington this week to advocate for Israel  and simultaneously the end of times on Capitol Hill.



The fourth annual summit of Christians United for Israel (CUFI) has brought together Christian leaders and supporters of Israel from around the country, starting Monday and continuing through Wednesday. Pastor  Hagee, and his new political action committee, Christians United for Israel (CUFI) launched in 2006, represents perhaps the most peculiar cast of characters ever assembled in Washington D.C.    Many Washington insiders have great difficulty getting their arms around the whole CUFI phenomenon.    CUFI is a tremendous supporter of Israel,  yet its founder, John Hagee, a former anti-catholic bigot and current megaTV evangelist,   has his flock pray,  if not for Israel's nuclear annihilation, certainly some sort of end of times catastrophe involving Jerusalem.

Pastor Hagee is on the record saying he hopes to deliver his followers  to heaven in a biblical moment of Rapture. What is so confounding to many are Pastor Hagee's pronouncements and prophesies,  which are clearly at Israel's expense,  yet Rev. Hagee is cheered on, unbelievably, by prominent Jewish leaders like ex-VP candidate and US Senator Joe Lieberman and TV commentator William Kristol. Senator Lieberman went so far as to call Mr. Hagee some kind of modern day "Moses"

Here  is what Mr. Hagee had to say on CNN in an interview with Glen Beck.


HAGEE: Well, there are ten Bible signs that we`re living in the end of days 

CNN Glen BECK: End of the world as we know it in five years, 10 years, 20years? 

John HAGEE: I don`t think we`ll get past 20 years.   

for complete transcript  click http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0710/12/gb.01.html 

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#1. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Oh, No! The world is coming to an end!

Pastor Hagee, who approves of mass murder for Israel, has spoken.

To no less an authority than that renowned (trained in Israel) former drug addict, Shock Jock, and mental patient Glenn Dreck.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-23   19:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S, all (#0)

Hagee is so full of shit.

Not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father knows the 'time.'

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-07-23   19:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

someone should slit the throat of that fat gluttonous queer and toss his jowled head over the fence of the whitehouse.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2009-07-23   20:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

Pastor Hagee is on the record saying he hopes to deliver his followers to heaven in a biblical moment of Rapture.

Praise Hey-Sus!

"America without her freedoms, is like a body without a soul" - Adam Kokesh

Flintlock  posted on  2009-07-23   20:03:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S, christine (#0)

Your title is a lie. He was asked a question about how many years. He said " I don`t think we`ll get past 20 years." That is not the same as what the title of your article says. Your title makes it sound like he proclaimed it would be gone in 20 years instead of he just thinks so.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#2)

Not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father knows the 'time.'

That is true lodwick. But he didn't say it would be 20 years. He was guessing about 20 years after a direct question was put to him. Even though you are exactly 100 percent right that we don't know the exact time. We do know when it is near by the signs. The bible even talks about you will know it is near when x x and x happen. That it is the season. Matthew chapter 24 is a good read. Disclaimer. I don't mean to stick up for Hagee but people should be accurate. There is plenty of accurate ways to describe Hagee.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Defend your man Hagee a zionist just like you only difference...he admits it!

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   20:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#0)

I heard Michael Medved singing the praises of this gluttonous pig a couple of days ago. Medved stated that he had been the featured speaker at a meeting of zio-nazis headed up by Hagee, called CUFI, Christians United For Israel.

Jews like Medved are very dangerous. They're able to pass as semi-conservatives when in fact they're communists. They're communists infiltrators that are chipping away at the nations soul. Jews like Medved, Prager and Savage, patronize Christians and Christianity only because Israel needs the Christian kids to bleed and die for their bullshit. Jews like the aforementioned three took down Russia in 1917 and they're here to do the same thing. And to me it appears they're enjoying an immense amount of success because most Americans are dumb fucks afraid to call a spade a spade or a Jew a Jew.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-23   20:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robnoel (#7)

Defend your man Hagee a zionist just like you only difference...he admits it!

My man huh. lol. That is funny. Now tell me again why a South African is so interested in my countries issues. Answer that squatter.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: gengis gandhi (#3)

someone should slit the throat of that fat gluttonous queer and toss his jowled head over the fence of the whitehouse.

Amen, my brother ... his head and that of his ilk.

That was a 5 Star Presidential Post !!!!! *****

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-23   20:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222 (#8)

ews like Medved are very dangerous. They're able to pass as semi-conservatives when in fact they're communists. They're communists infiltrators that are chipping away at the nations soul. Jews like Medved, Prager and Savage, patronize Christians and Christianity only because Israel needs the Christian kids to bleed and die for their bullshit. Jews like the aforementioned three took down Russia in 1917 and they're here to do the same thing. And to me it appears they're enjoying an immense amount of success because most Americans are dumb fucks afraid to call a spade a spade or a Jew a Jew.

Look up the definition of communist. It doesn't fit.

Jesus was a Jew. A spade a spade huh. Those who hate wont enter into heaven. You know that right?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Matthew chapter 24 is a good read.

Yes my little zionist once again quoting from the Scoefield Reference Bible

This might come as a shock to many serious, Bible-believing Christians, but the doctrine of dispensationalism was totally unknown to the Puritans, Pilgrims, Congregationalists, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians and others who were the early religious settlers of our nation. It was unknown to our founding fathers who were Christians. In fact, it was an unknown doctrine until the middle of the 19th century, yet almost all fundamental Christian denominations are espousing this product of John Nelson Darby and Dr. C. I. Scofield.

Basically, the idea that national Israel has a key role in all end times events, that Israel must exist as a nation to bring about the end of this present age and the second advent of Christ comes straight out of the dispensational handbook as written by Dr. Scofield and promulgated by Dallas Theological Seminary. No such ideas ever prevailed in the early Church, the Reformation, or the Christian faith as practiced in the first hundred years of this nation's existence.

Darby's theory of a "secret rapture" of the Church and of the separation of Israel and the Church were treated as oddities in Biblical teaching by his own Plymouth Brethren in England. Prior to that time, established doctrine treated national Israel's mission as bringing forth the Messiah and once that was accomplished, there was nothing more for national Israel to do in the service of the Kingdom of God. The Resurrection of Christ, as explained in the New Testament in detail by the Apostle Paul, had brought forth "one new man" from among Jews and Gentiles, and henceforth the earth consisted of two groups of people, those who were in God's Kingdom (the saved) and those who were not (the lost). Even St. Paul, in Romans, laments the fate of his Jewish brethren for rejecting their Messiah.

What Darby produced was a doctrine of two "second comings" of Christ, one secret for the purpose of "rapturing" the church to heaven prior to the end times, and the second advent at the finale of end times prophecies for the judgment of the world. No hint of any such double advent is given by Jesus in His description of the end times given in Matthew chapter 24 or Luke chapter 21.

From Darby's work, Dr. C. I. Scofield set about to advance his theories and produced an annotated "Scofield Bible of 1909" in which his dispensationalist doctrines, first devised by J. N. Darby, are set forth in the form of notes "explaining" the meaning of various passages of the Bible. For the past seventy years or so, the dispensationalist explanation of the book of Revelation and the 70th week of Daniel have dominated nearly all fundamental Christian denominations. They are, as a rule, rejected wholly by the liturgical churches that retain the Christian faith in its post-Reformation state of believing in the Church as God's people, whether in heaven or on earth (sometimes called the Church Universal), including both Jew and Gentile, and rejecting any role of a national Israel in Bible eschatology (end-time events).

Having begun in late 1968 to find out about Christianity, my schooling has included just about every form of belief and doctrine being taught, but today the dominance of dispensationalism is influencing not only forms of belief in the Church, but in the way that Christian people look at Israel and the duties of the United States of America with regard to the nation of Israel.

Do I anticipate a one-world government? Yes. That is entirely possible whether Israel exists as a nation or not. Would I be surprised at the rise of an antichrist at the helm of the one world government? No. Various forms of antichrists have existed since the birth of the Christian church, so to have one final world ruler, a position to which many have aspired throughout the ages, is not dispensationalist. Do I believe in a "zap rapture" of the church before all the troubles begin? No. I find that most people who are preoccupied with such a rapture are people with deep and serious problems on earth and who find that path of escape the most desirable idea presented in the churches that adhere to dispensationalism. It would be a magnificent exit to simply be swooped up by the Lord with all His people on earth and carried away from all our problems, pains and other sufferings here in this short lifetime. I simply do not believe that such a secret "second advent before the real second advent" is in the Bible. It has been put there by Dr. Scofield and taught with absolute authority by some of the most prominent Bible teachers and theologians in America, particularly those from Dallas Theological Seminary. Authors Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye have advanced the cause of dispensationalism with their books, some of which have gained the status of a latter-day gospel among their fans.

While that's a normal flow of religion and delusion, it is not "the faith once delivered" or rightly dividing the word of truth. As a matter of fact, it is a form of "Christianity" that would have been labeled total apostasy during and after the Reformation and until the early 20th century when it took hold in America.

All of this information regarding Scofield, Darby, dispensationalism and Christian thought is for a single purpose. It is to demonstrate that if American Christian churches had stuck to the faith of our fathers and the early Christian settlers in the colonies, even the faith preached from the pulpits through most of the nineteenth century, the United States would not be under the pressure it is today from the Christian churches whose adherents are ardent dispensationalists and believe in a restoration of Israel, the building of a third temple, and dozens of other tenets of dispensationalism.

Without dispensationalism, we would have a nation still largely believing in the theology of the Reformation and hence Israel as a nation and political entity would have no influence on the Church, "the Israel of God" and the "one new man" of God's Kingdom, bought with His own blood.

Dispensationalism places the Church under the delusion that Christians must support the nation of Israel at all costs in order to put things in place for Christ's secret return and eventually, at Armageddon (one of the most misunderstood words/ideas in the Bible) the final conflict between good and evil, Satan's minions and God's people. Almost every major error in the Church has either originated with a misunderstanding of the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to St. John on the Isle of Patmos. Other errors do occur, such as the snake handlers who "prove" their faith by handling vipers, but essentially the Book of the Revelation has been the source of most of the major doctrinal errors in the Christian faith, at least those arising after the Reformation.

The theology of the Reformation as held by the LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, of which I became a member some years back) is basically the same doctrine as held by the founders of our nation, who were largely Calvinists. Luther and Calvin were contemporaries and had their differences, so the Lutheran church has some doctrinal differences with the Calvinist theology. But both reject the dispensationalist view as a latter day delusion brought about first by the popularity of a "rapture" that would allow Christians to escape all the world's evils, and then developing into a complete reliance of the Church's mission on the existence of a national Israel. This persuasion is so strong among fundamental Baptists and Pentecostals, Nazarenes and unaffiliated Bible and charismatic churches as to be the primary Christian doctrine in America today.

The tragedy of all this lies in the influence of Darby and Scofield not only on the basic theological construct of the Christian faith as taught in fundamental Christian churches today, but in the influence those churches have on the national policies of our nation, without which the United States may very well not have the commitment it does to the Middle East and its myriad problems. Of course the commercial interests regarding oil would still influence both our foreign policy and our foreign strategy, but undergirding the US policies abroad are the dispensationalist Christian beliefs, just as fundamental Islamic beliefs underlie and provide underpinnings to their Jihads.

Unfortunately, most Christians who go to church haven't a clue as to what the above essay says because they haven't the foggiest notion of theological constructs, never heard of Darby, might have heard of Scofield, and are just seeking the Kingdom of God and following their leaders. Come to think of it, that seems to be the reason we still have Republicans and Democrats who have changed their political constructs and no one notices or thinks it matters.

Religion and politics really shouldn't mix with one another, but they do because of human nature. It is just well to remember that both are inflammatory and can produce, in fact will produce, a new holocaust on earth. Just give them a little more tim

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   20:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222, christine (#10)

someone should slit the throat of that fat gluttonous queer and toss his jowled head over the fence of the whitehouse.

Amen, my brother ... his head and that of his ilk.

That was a 5 Star Presidential Post !!!!! *****

You are a murderer at heart like your father the devil.

Nuke the jews, slit throats. What a classy lady.....not

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Brian S (#0)

HAGEE: Well, there are ten Bible signs that we`re living in the end of days

Has anybody introduced Hagee to Jim Robinson?? They should get along famously...

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-07-23   20:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#9)

My man huh. lol. That is funny. Now tell me again why a South African is so interested in my countries issues. Answer that squatter.

My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   20:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robnoel (#12)

Matthew chapter 24 is a good read.

Yes my little zionist once again quoting from the Scoefield Reference Bible

Rob you cut and paste a lot. Rob Matthew chapter 24 is in all Bibles not just this scofield one you are so obsessed about. Was the education really that bad in your home South Africa?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robnoel (#15)

My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you

Rob your ancestors murdered africans and stole the land. You are a squatter.

Also your claim that I destroyed your country is pathetic and the talk of someone without the ability to speak the truth. Rob you should try being honest when you debate.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)

You are devout follower of Scoefield it's not a secret it's a fact you are a phoney Christian maybe you got that from your government education system

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   20:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robnoel (#12)

By the way did you write those words or plagarize them?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Thats rich coming from a American oh I forgot you are a product of government education...got a few Indians here in Arizona that would like to return the favour and scalp your sorry ass

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   20:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robnoel (#18)

You are devout follower of Scoefield it's not a secret it's a fact you are a phoney Christian maybe you got that from your government education system

Rob I use the King James Bible. It is accurate Rob. Rob you aren't the judge of who is a christian. God determines who is a christian not Rob. Rob our government schools don't teach religion or talk about God anymore. Are you ok Rob, your not making a whole lot of sense?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robnoel (#15)

My mission in life is to expose those that destroyed my country...including the likes of you

I feel the same way about my country too. People like Old Friend (AKA Stone) are destroyers that abuse other people's good nature. To hell with them all.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-23   20:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robnoel (#20)

Thats rich coming from a American oh I forgot you are a product of government education...got a few Indians here in Arizona that would like to return the favour and scalp your sorry ass

Rob you always put an "an" before a word that starts with a vowel. Not an "a". So it is not "a american" it is "an american".

Anyway what you said doesn't change the fact that your ancestors murdered africans and stole their land. Now why don't you get out of my country and go back and squat on someone elses land. Ok Rob.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: noone222 (#22)

I feel the same way about my country too. People like Old Friend (AKA Stone) are destroyers that abuse other people's good nature. To hell with them all.

noone you really live up to your name. Lets see you call me a destroyer. But it is you talking about genocide (your nuke the jews comment). And now slitting the throat of your political enemies. Sounds like you are the abuser and destroyer.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent, Brian S, Lod, gengis gandhi (#1)

http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/22/mccains-pastor-hagee-loves-him-some-end-times/

McCain’s Pastor Hagee Loves Him Some End Times

Sarah Posner, May 2008

By now you could mention the name John Hagee and immediately most people would quickly associate it with the term “great whore.” The reference, of course, is to Hagee’s now-notorious exposition on the Book of Revelation in which he describes the institution of the Catholic Church as a lascivious woman astride a horse in the biblical story on the end of the world.

Like all Hagee sermons, this one hardly serves as a model for scholarly exegesis. As he bumbled around, straining to fit the Biblical text into an elaborately illustrated historical timeline, Hagee let his animus towards what he calls “the apostate church” show.

But the emphasis on Hagee’s clumsy diatribe misses a larger point: that Hagee was describing the Book of Revelation in terms that demonstrate how he thinks it is a real description of church history, a real forecast of the end of the world, and, as a result, a template for U.S. foreign policy.

Most frighteningly of all, despite all of this, he and his Christians United for Israel (CUFI) are treated as a legitimate foreign policy voice in Washington by the Bush Administration, John McCain, and many other members and former members of Congress, including Joe Lieberman, who likened him to Moses, and even the Catholic Rick Santorum. Santorum told me last year that although he doesn’t share Hagee’s beliefs on the end-times, he appreciates his – er, foreign policy views. Trouble is, though, those two things can’t really be extricated from each other.

In his book, Jerusalem Countdown, and in many other books and sermons over the years, Hagee describes how biblical prophecy should dictate U.S. policy, and how such policy will lead to the Second Coming of Christ. Hagee is popular in some Jewish circles because his view that God’s will prohibits any land concessions by the Israelis to the Palestinians is supposedly “supportive” of Israel. His views can only be deemed to be supportive of Israel, of course, if you think it should be embroiled in years of bloody war which culminate in the conversion or death of all the Jews.

Hagee protests that he wants peace in Israel, but that peace will only happen when Christ comes again – after God decimates a Muslim army and a giant earthquake swallows the Dome of the Rock. For everyone whose feet are firmly planted in reality, however, his thirst for this bloody ending to the world as we know it defies his claim that he’s a peace-seeker. As Jeremy Ben-Ami, executive director of J Street, which brings a sane new voice to the Middle East policy debate in Washington, recently, Hagee “look[s] at the trade-offs that Israel must make to achieve peace -- and hope[s] to thwart them.”

Like his friend Rod Parsley, who also endorsed McCain, Hagee believes Islam is satanic. Here’s how he described that view at the late Jerry Falwell’s church last fall:

Satan wants Jerusalem for his messiah, the Antichrist. God has promised it to King David that his seed, Jesus Christ, shall rule over it forever and forever. People ask why can’t the Arabs and the Jews get together over this city? Listen to me: it is not about the two-state solution. It is not about money. It is not about land. It is about theology. . . . Muhammed taught a theology of triumphalism . . . .for Islam to rule the earth. The problem is that sitting in the throat of Islamic nations in the Middle East is Israel, who has an unconditional blood covenant with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that the land shall be theirs forever and forever. God did not loan the land to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He gave it to them by blood covenant, and the Book of Genesis and that covenant still stands. It is there regardless of what the United Nations wants. It is there regardless of what the U.S. State Department thinks. It is there in spite of what the Arab nations want. It belongs to Israel. . . . I am telling you there will be no lasting peace in the Middle East until the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ, returns to that sacred city and sets up his eternal kingdom.

I’ve been writing about Hagee’s mad view that a war with Iran is presaged in the Bible for a couple of years now, and have written a new book, God’s Profits: Faith, Fraud, and the Republican Crusade for Values Voters, exposing Hagee’s (and other televangelists’) controversial prosperity gospel doctrine, bizarre views on Israel and the end-times, and cozy relationship with the Republican Party. His obsession with money, Armageddon, and the spiritual warfare that animates daily life are the core of his preaching week after week, not screeds against the Catholic Church.

The fact that his anti-Catholicism became the centerpiece of media coverage of McCain’s “pastor problem” caused the press and the public to take their eyes off this ball. (Thanks, Bill Donohue!) The focus on Hagee’s disdain for the Catholic Church has eclipsed the fact that Hagee thinks that the roadmap for peace in the Middle East is against God’s will (and will bring God’s wrath on America in the form of hurricanes, floods, and even terrorist nuclear attacks) and that the Bible provides the real roadmap for U.S. policy. Hagee’s colossally illogical extension of this view is that diplomacy equals appeasement and war is the only answer. Sound familiar? If you’re wondering whether Hagee has had any impact on Bush, I’ve laid out how Bush’s appeasement speech comes straight out of the Hagee playbook. No accident: Hagee’s relationship with Bush dates back to his days as Governor of Texas; Hagee later endorsed Bush’s presidential candidacy in a book, God’s Candidate for America, and in 2003 proclaimed that God “raised up” Bush to “crush Saddam Hussein.”

Let’s not let the Catholic League’s Donohue – who himself has issued anti- Semitic, anti-gay, and other derogatory slurs – dictate the terms of a vital conversation we all need to have about Hagee’s role in McCain’s campaign. Of course it makes for eye-popping video that Hagee used the term “great whore” and elsewhere suggested Adolf Hitler learned his anti-Semitism at Catholic school. Certainly if Hagee does think the Catholic Church should be blamed for the Holocaust, he should have to explain himself – something he tried to do last week, an effort that was clearly aimed at helping repair McCain’s image with Catholic voters.

But Hagee’s fixation with Armageddon, and his ability to virally market that fixation to the shock troops through his daily television program and multi- million dollar ministry, has had a catastrophic impact on our Middle East policy. With a possible McCain presidency promising to be a third Bush term, none of us can afford to overlook that.

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Bush is a luciferian. Hagee's endorsement of him as God's candidate for America is sick and evil. That Hagee has the following he does is proof that we're a nation of pathetic fawning sheep. baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

christine  posted on  2009-07-23   20:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#23)

Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again...this time for good ....please move back to Israel your home country

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   20:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#13)

sell your cloak, buy a sword.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2009-07-23   20:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#25)

By now you could mention the name John Hagee and immediately most people would quickly associate it with the term “great whore.” The reference, of course, is to Hagee’s now-notorious exposition on the Book of Revelation in which he describes the institution of the Catholic Church as a lascivious woman astride a horse in the biblical story on the end of the world.

I don't know about everything else you pasted. But if you read the Bible and the description of "the great whore" is very possibly the catholic church. I'm not sure but it is a possibility.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: gengis gandhi (#27)

sell your cloak, buy a sword.

Yes Christ said that. But not to go and murder someone. It was for self defense.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: robnoel (#26)

Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again...this time for good ....please move back to Israel your home country

Rob christine may not agree with me on Israel but she is pretty much for free speech and open debate. When you say you hate zionists then you call me a zionist. Well that is you trying to start some shit. Oh yes Rob one more thing. Unlike you I am American born. Your just an immigrant here to benefit from the work of me and my ancestors. You are not a very grateful immigrant.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)

either way.

the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.

as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out'

7.62 beats kumbaya every time.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2009-07-23   20:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: gengis gandhi (#31)

either way.

the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.

as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out'

7.62 beats kumbaya every time.

Gengis I think you don't really mean it when you say to slit his throat. It isn't right and you know it. Unlike some other people who I think really think that way.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine, all (#25)

To most here, Hagee, and his ilk, are certifiable.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-07-23   20:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: robnoel (#26)

Not sure why you were allowed back but I sure hope she boots your butt again

Rob that isn't exactly true. I was never gone Rob. You should really get your facts straight before you talk Rob.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Lod (#33)

To most here, Hagee, and his ilk, are certifiable.

Lod that may be the majority opinion. It may be correct. But do you think the majority opinion is to "slit his throat". I don't think you are for that Lodwick. Your a much more sensible man.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: gengis gandhi (#31)

the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.

as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out'

7.62 beats kumbaya every time.

i love the way you cut to the chase ;)

christine  posted on  2009-07-23   20:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#25)

Hagee’s relationship with Bush dates back to his days as Governor of Texas; Hagee later endorsed Bush’s presidential candidacy in a book, God’s Candidate for America, and in 2003 proclaimed that God “raised up” Bush to “crush Saddam Hussein.”

"God's Candidate"? Gag! Power vomit!

Boss Hogg Pastor Hagee is a real piece of work.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-23   20:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine, gengis gandhi (#36)

the only reason this country had any freedom at all was because men with balls weren't concerned about promises beyond the grave, but living in the present.

as the 101st says, 'kill em all, let god sort em out'

7.62 beats kumbaya every time.

i love the way you cut to the chase ;)

That isn't really true. Read the declaration of independence and God is all over it. Read the constitution and it calls for a blessing. Not exactly accurate.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   20:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#1)

I doubt we'll get past 20 years....

Oh, No! The world is coming to an end!

Hagee doesn't know anything. Freedom's breath in the world came to an end a long time ago. Without that, might as well bring on the giant meteor, Hagee. I'll stand on the roof and watch it come in. The "prosperity" everyone so dearly coveted was stolen from them by the "chosen people" and now, sadly, many have lost everything. Only the protected class government leeches exist securely now on the legalized theft (taxes) from others.

KinkoTheKlown  posted on  2009-07-23   20:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222 (#8)

Is Henry Makow one of those zionists intent on bringing down this country? That guy seems to have a very destructive agenda and is exceedingly clever about it.

Diana  posted on  2009-07-23   20:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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