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Title: John Stadtmiller Arrested and is in Williamson County Jail
Source: Alan Watt
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Published: Jul 23, 2009
Author: none
Post Date: 2009-07-23 20:26:40 by noone222
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Views: 710
Comments: 60

Alan Watt says they arrested him on a suspended driver license while he was asking the cops about someone else being hassled.

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#20. To: Critter (#19)

Let me fix that:

Cops as much as I hate them do, once in about 10,000 instances, serve a legitimate function in society.

I share your general sentiments. But honestly it is probably lover then 1 in 10000.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   21:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#18)

Talk about revenue enhancement they want to charge Sandra $24.95 to talk to John.....you can't make this stuff up,,,amazing!

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   21:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robnoel (#8)

Michigan Police Chiefs Admit Speeding Tickets Are About Money

Posted in Newsworthy, Politics, Roads, Safety, Scandal, Traffic by Vito Rispo · 29 opinions voiced

In 2002, police in the city of Detroit gave out a total of 126,007 traffic tickets. Last year, the number of tickets grew to over 245,000 51; a 94% jump. The increase was even larger in small towns like Plymouth which saw the number of tickets go up from 440 to 2,500 52; up 480 percent 52; over the same amount of time. According to Detroit area police the reason for the increase is dwindling property tax revenue. That lack of property tax revenue has forced local governments in Michigan to use average citizen drivers to fill the coffers. You might call it a new, 60;random driving tax.61;

60;When I first started in this job thirty years ago, police work was never about revenue enhancement,61; Utica Police Chief Michael Reaves told the Detroit News. 60;But if you57;re a chief now, you have to look at whether your department produces revenues. That57;s just the reality nowadays.61;

The National Motorists Association pointed to Detroit suburbs as home to some of the worst speed traps in the entire country. Upwards of 18 jurisdictions in the area reported an increase in ticketing of more than fifty percent.

60;When elected officials say, 56;We need more money,57; they can57;t look to the department of public works to raise revenues, so where do they find it? Police departments,61; Police Officers Association of Michigan President James Tagnanelli told the News.

60;I57;ve spent eight years in traffic services, and I was a crash reconstructionist for five years before that,61; Michigan State Police Lieutenant Gary Megge told the News. 60;So I57;ve seen my share of fatal wrecks, and I can tell you: Deaths are not caused by speeding. They57;re caused by drinking, drugs and inattentiveness. The old adage that speed kills just isn57;t realistic. The safest speed is the speed that is correct for that roadway at a given time. A lot of speed limits are set artificially low.61;

The Michigan State Police promotes setting limits according to the 85th percentile rule. This widely used principle is used to determine a practical speed limit by measuring how fast the vast majority of traffic, 85 percent, travel in safety.

60;It just doesn57;t seem right to me that we would enforce a law where 90-98 percent of the people are in violation of it,61; Lieutenant Megge told the News. 60;It57;s not the way we should do business in this country.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-23   21:33:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Piss off Zionist go back to Israel

robnoel  posted on  2009-07-23   21:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robnoel (#21)

they want to charge Sandra $24.95 to talk to John.....you can't make this stuff up,,,

Ever wonder why a lawyer's office has gold leaf trim, the finest leather furnishings and the finest woods on Earth for doors and window sills? Ever wonder why cops make more money to start than 90% of the people you encounter in daily life slaving at $7/hr jobs?

KinkoTheKlown  posted on  2009-07-23   21:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

Notice how the SS wears their Kevlar (in your face) on the outside now? Ironic how it covers the rusty badge he may or may not be wearing.

KinkoTheKlown  posted on  2009-07-23   21:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robnoel (#21)

they're going to teach john a lesson not to interfere with their thuggery

christine  posted on  2009-07-23   21:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Cops as much as I hate them do serve a legitimate function in society. As long as they aren't abusing that authority.

They've been abusing their authority on a daily basis for decades now. That, or they're incompetent and just drive around on their shift avoiding the world.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-07-23   22:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#26)

they're going to teach john a lesson not to interfere with their thuggery

Bullcrap.

Was he driving? No, he was walking over to them. Did they have probable cause to search him or demand his driver's license?

I smell a lawsuit.

echo5sierra  posted on  2009-07-23   22:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: echo5sierra (#28)

Papers, please!! (accompanied by impatient finger-snapping)

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-07-23   22:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: KinkoTheKlown (#24)

encounter in daily life slaving at $7/hr jobs?

Some people have low paying jobs because they don't put enough effort into it.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   22:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robnoel (#23)

Piss off Zionist go back to Israel

Rob I have never been to Israel. It would be an interesting place to visit. If you can fork over the money I will take a trip there and bring you back a souvenir. Rob you sound like a very bitter depressed person. When did you abandon your country Rob?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   22:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: echo5sierra (#28)

i meant by incarcerating him tonight. this is williamson county. they're notorious corrupt thugs from top to bottom. a lawsuit won't go anywhere. they'll make it where john has to spend more frns than he can afford to defend or sue.

christine  posted on  2009-07-23   22:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Sam Houston, all (#2)

What is it he doesn't get, besides allegedly a valid driver's license?

You don't tug on Superman's cape in Williamson county.

Choose battles that you have a chance to win.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-07-23   22:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#32)

So let me get this straight - JS was arrested for an expired license while on foot??

Is this story up somewhere in some kind of detail?

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randge  posted on  2009-07-23   22:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: randge (#34)

no, it's not. it just happened this evening. they were talking about it on RBN. all we know is that he intervened on behalf of an individual who was being harrassed by cops. i guess they did an ID on him and discovered he had a suspended license. so they arrested him and took him to jail.

christine  posted on  2009-07-23   23:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#35)

Lippin' off while suspended.

That'll get you at least five years, won't it??

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randge  posted on  2009-07-23   23:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#32)

I've heard about Williamson Co. all the way up here in DFW! It's got a 'special' reputation.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-07-23   23:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#35)

he intervened on behalf of an individual who was being harrassed by cops.

John puts his money where his mouth is. Apparently, he is not afraid of bullies.

I think it is because he smokes American Spirit Cigarettes!

echo5sierra  posted on  2009-07-23   23:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: echo5sierra (#38)

yes, big chief smokes ;)

christine  posted on  2009-07-23   23:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: echo5sierra, christine (#38) (Edited)

think it is because he smokes American Spirit Cigarettes!

:))) P.S. Rule #1. Never voluntarily "engage" the police..for anything. Prayers go out to him and his family....

KinkoTheKlown  posted on  2009-07-23   23:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: randge (#36)

here ya go from RBN website~

John Stadtmiller was arrested for Expired/Suspended drivers license which he had taken care of over a month ago. Just 30 minutes after his show today, July 23, 2009, He stopped to see what police were doing to another driver as they were taking property out of the car, this is when they noticed John, about 150 feet away, and decided to question him.John is being held by Williamson County Jail which can be contacted at this number:

512-943-5202

christine  posted on  2009-07-23   23:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#41)

He can sue them for false arrest.

echo5sierra  posted on  2009-07-23   23:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: KinkoTheKlown (#40)

Rule #1. Never voluntarily "engage" the police..for anything.

The police are NOT your friends. At this late date they are Enforcers (and all that usage implies) not Peace Officers.

I trust the average street cop about as far as I can throw WTC 7.

I'm sure there are some good ones, some decent ones, but they are compromised by belonging to a Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-23   23:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: KinkoTheKlown (#40)

P.S. Rule #1. Never voluntarily "engage" the police..for anything. Prayers go out to him and his family.

I heard this advice before. I haven't tried it. Let me know what you think. You get pulled over.

Hi Mr. Policeman how are you doing am I under arrest.

Policeman: No you are not under arrest.

Bye Mr. Policeman

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-23   23:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: echo5sierra (#42)

He could wind up with a BIG Payday with the right Ambulance Chaser.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-23   23:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#44)

I heard this advice before. I haven't tried it. Let me know what you think. You get pulled over.

Hi Mr. Policeman how are you doing am I under arrest.

Policeman: No you are not under arrest.

You'd better have a good witness, and preferably a videocam. Hopefully your witness is well connected to the top of the government mob. Otherwise your ass is grass.

Don't try it at all without a witness or two as they'll just set you up and then "drop a bag" on you, and then you, you filthy doper, are BUSTED.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-24   0:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#46)

You'd better have a good witness, and preferably a videocam. Hopefully your witness is well connected to the top of the government mob. Otherwise your ass is grass.

Don't try it at all without a witness or two as they'll just set you up and then "drop a bag" on you, and then you, you filthy doper, are BUSTED.

I don't plan on trying it. But it sounds interesting.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-07-24   0:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: UPDATE on Stadtmiller (#0)

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i just spoke to Sandra. she's at the attorney's office. he had spoken to john so she had to hang up. she said she'll call me later. here's what happened. this cop knew who john was because xmas eve a year ago, he had pulled a woman over in the parking lot of RBN studio. john went out to inquire as to what was going on. he asked if he could give the woman a break since it was xmas eve. the cop told john one more word out of you and you're going to jail. john went inside and called his superior to tell him he had an out of control officer.

last night's incident involved another young woman. the cop was searching her car and removing seats and personal property. john pulled into the parking lot to observe. he was at least 150 ft away. obviously, the cop recognized him and came over to him. he apparently did a DL check. it's true that john had resolved this issue back in may. maybe there was a glitch in their system. who knows. anyway, on the way to the jail this cop asked john if he had any suicide thoughts. john answered no. he then asked john if anyone close to him had died recently. john told him about his friend and radio talk show host, Alan Stang. then because of this conversation, they put john on SUICIDE WATCH.

christine  posted on  2009-07-24   11:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#48)

Good grief - thanks for the update.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-07-24   11:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: christine (#48)

This gets more insane by the moment. At this point it seems obvious that it was a revenge arrest and now they are going to mistreat him as much as they can get away with.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-24   11:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: christine (#48)

The first rule when forced to deal with cops is shut up. The second rule is say nothing. The third is if you still have questions related to rule 1 or rule 2 ... keep your mouth shut.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-24   11:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Critter (#19)

bump

Officers of the Peace I will protect.

Civil Administrative Policy Enforcement Revenue Pigs I will not.

Read between the lines...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-07-24   11:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#48)

The Austin freedom lover's movement should hold a private meeting for this police officer so they can introduce him to the enforcement board and the COPstistupid ...

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-24   11:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: noone222 (#51)

The first rule when forced to deal with cops is shut up. The second rule is say nothing. The third is if you still have questions related to rule 1 or rule 2 ... keep your mouth shut.

So very true. Say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. If you MUST say SOMETHING (turret's syndrome), try 3 words: "I DON'T KNOW".


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-07-24   11:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Rotara (#52)

Read between the lines...

For those that can't read (AKA Stone/Old Friend) and the deaf of hearing !

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-24   11:53:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: noone222 (#55)

LOL !

You're well read !! ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-07-24   12:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Lod (#1)

John just doesn't seem to get it.

Turtle made the moron blow his stack, which amuses Turtle, since he is ultimatley loveable, if a bit annoying at times.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-07-24   12:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Turtle. all (#57)

Whenever I must go through Williamson county, the cruise control is set at 5mph under whatever is the posted speed limit.

It would be interesting to know how many millions of dollars the county receives from traffic 'violations' every year...

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-07-24   12:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#48)

Incredible. It sounds like this cop acted stupidly.

Will he get away with it?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-07-24   14:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Lod (#58)

Whenever I must go through Williamson county, the cruise control is set at 5mph under whatever is the posted speed limit.

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