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Title: What Constitutes Racial Profiling?
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/PaulProctor/proctor185.htm
Published: Jul 24, 2009
Author: Paul Proctor
Post Date: 2009-07-24 10:17:13 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 161
Comments: 18

Harvard Scholar, Henry Louis Gates, was arrested on his front porch on July 16th by police responding to a call from witnesses reporting a possible break-in at a residence in Cambridge, Massachusetts. It seems Mr. Gates and another man had to use force to gain entry through a jammed door – be it his own.

Apparently, he would not have been arrested and charged with “disorderly conduct” had he simply cooperated with police and shown some identification – something an officer must have upon arrival at a potential crime scene in order to make sure the parties involved are indeed who they claim to be. For an officer to simply assume someone at a potential crime scene is not the perpetrator would be careless, irresponsible and dangerous for everyone involved. Verifiable identities must first be established.

Gates not only refused to cooperate with officers investigating, but also became belligerent in his objections to their request for identification, reportedly getting “loud” and “tumultuous” with police – calling their demands “racial profiling.” Mr. Gates, you see, is an African-American and the arresting officer is not.

The fact that Barack Obama commented on the incident at a Wednesday news conference, saying that police “acted stupidly,” seemed rather odd to me, bringing to mind another controversial identity issue in the news: Obama’s own refusal to provide a copy of his original long-form, hospital-generated, birth certificate to prove his American citizenship – something every candidate for president must do to satisfy the Constitutional requirement of being a “natural born citizen.”

To simply assume that he is, just because he claims to be, would also be careless, irresponsible and dangerous for everyone involved. If it is eventually discovered that he is not a natural born citizen, then everything he has signed into law, every Executive Order he has given and every appointment he made as the President of the United States of America would instantly become invalid and we would have a national crisis on our hands.

You see, Obama’s “Certificate Of Live Birth,” which is posted online, is not the same thing as an original long-form birth certificate – something every American citizen must provide a copy of to get, among other things, a driver’s license, passport or handgun carry permit. Not only has Obama refused to provide a copy of his original birth certificate, he has also reportedly spent millions of dollars in legal fees trying to prevent its release to the public – that is, assuming he has one.

This reminded me of the African-American woman I wrote about in January who refused to pay her rent, telling the landlord, “We have a new president now and some things are going to change” – and political activist, Donna Brazile, also an African-American, who, when playfully questioned on live television by ABC News anchor, Charles Gibson about whether or not her stealing the fleece blanket from Obama’s chair at his swearing-in ceremony was a felony or misdemeanor, responded: “We have a black president – it’s neither.”

So, I’m left to wonder: Is it because “we have a black president now” that Mr. Obama doesn’t have to provide Americans a copy of his original birth certificate? Legally, it would appear that we don’t really have one until he does – or would that Constitutional requirement also be considered “racial profiling”?

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Harvard Scholar, Henry Louis Gates,

This story starts out with a misnomer, and then fails to tell us what scholarly field this gentleman excels in.

Remember Chief Moose?????? He had a PHD in community relations, or some such.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-24   10:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine, psusa, indietx, jethro tull (#0)

Gates not only refused to cooperate with officers investigating, but also became belligerent in his objections to their request for identification, reportedly getting “loud” and “tumultuous” with police – calling their demands “racial profiling.” Mr. Gates, you see, is an African-American and the arresting officer is not.

sorry, i had to stop right there anbd back up. because the news is reporting that even the cop and professor agree on several things: among them being the fact that the cop already knew who the homelowner was BEFORE he arrested him. so the guy was not atrrested for refusing to ID himself.

the pig knew damned well who he was when he arrested him. now when the guy told the cop who he was. the cop was done, and should have left. but no, as usual, the control freak pig kook showed to the world his power-starved kook nature.

the racial issue is irrelevant here, to me at least,. the issue is, why did the cop not leave when the guy id'd himself?

as far as the cop not liking the guys attitude, that should not be an arrestable offense.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan  posted on  2009-07-24   10:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#2)

as far as the cop not liking the guys attitude, that should not be an arrestable offense.

Not under multiculturalism, no.

If they want to live among whites, blacks must abide by whites' definition of disorderly conduct.

“The blacks are very vain but in the Negroes’ way, and so talkative that they must be driven apart with thrashings.” -- Immanuel Kant

“I’m apt to suspect the negroes to be naturally inferior to the whites.” -- David Hume

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-07-24   10:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#2)

as far as the cop not liking the guys attitude, that should not be an arrestable offense.

While I somewhat agree with you it seems that these days that is an arrestable offense for the rest of us. Why should he be different? I know I am a white American and if I act like that with a cop in Md. that's what they will do to me as well.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-07-24   11:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

Remember Chief Moose?????? He had a PHD in community relations, or some such.

Sure I remember Moose - he was Police Chief here before he was in Virginia. He had to "git outta town" because he was a black racist and went off on a white female clerk at Nordstroms. After it made it into the local press a lot more came out on his racist attitudes and behavior, as well as his incompetence, and he had to look for another job. He was an affirmitive action Chief whose only qualification was being black with a liberal Mayor (Vera Katz from NYC - nuff said).

Moose Bio Excerpt From Answers.com

Became Head of Portland Police

When Moose moved to Portland to begin his new career in 1975, he also started a family with his first wife, Linder Moose. The couple's first son was born that year and a second son followed in 1980. Moose's first marriage ended in divorce shortly thereafter and he subsequently married for a second time, to Sandra Herman, becoming stepfather to her son, Lincoln Herman. In 1997 Moose's youngest son was arrested in Portland and charged with dealing crack cocaine. Despite the personal pain caused by the arrest, Moose praised the arresting officers for carrying out their duties even after they learned they had arrested the chief's son.

In his first years on the Portland Police Department's force, Moose worked as a patrol officer and was often assigned to undercover work. One of his biggest investigations contributed to the arrest of a forty-member stolen-goods ring that operated in Portland, a feat that earned him and his fellow officers a segment on the 60 Minutes news program. Moose was promoted to the rank of sergeant in 1981 and lieutenant in 1984. In 1991 he became the captain of Portland's North Precinct and the following year advanced to the position of deputy chief. In 1993, after eighteen years with the Portland Police Department, Moose was named its chief, making him the first African American to hold that title. By that time he had also earned a master's degree in public administration from Portland State University as well as a doctorate in urban studies and criminology from that institution. For his dissertation Moose wrote The Theory and Practice of Community Policing: An Evaluation of the Iris Court Demonstration Project, a study based on his work with the Portland Police Department.

Moose's tenure as Portland's police chief was marked by both success and controversy. Soon after assuming control of the department, Moose and his wife moved into one of the city's most crime-ridden, inner-city neighborhoods. The presence of the police chief in the neighborhood helped to reduce the incidence of crime there and aided in its restoration to a family-oriented place. Crime also plummeted throughout Portland as a whole during Moose's time there. Moose claimed that his implementation of community policing, with officers stationed in neighborhoods throughout the city, was responsible for the reduction in crime, although some experts noted that the drop was part of a nationwide trend due to a strong economy and changing demographics.

Among Moose's more controversial moments were a series of run-ins he had with members of the public. In each case Moose exploded when he thought that someone had slighted him because of his race. One well-publicized argument occurred in a store, where Moose thought he was being denied service by a clerk. (My Note: He went ballistic and had the girl in tears.) In another confrontation Moose argued with a colleague who had told him he looked like a gang member because he came to work one day wearing jeans. As a result of his outbursts Moose was ordered to undergo anger-management counseling by his department's review board.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-24   11:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#1)

This story starts out with a misnomer, and then fails to tell us what scholarly field this gentleman excels in.

Black history. Really.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-24   11:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#6)

This story starts out with a misnomer, and then fails to tell us what scholarly field this gentleman excels in.

Black history. Really.

Excuse me?

That is African American History if you please cracka'.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-07-24   11:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#2)

the racial issue is irrelevant here, to me at least,. the issue is, why did the cop not leave when the guy id'd himself?

there you go.

These pigs and their PR blitz is just one laugh after another. They screwed up big time and they know it. All the PR crap they can possibly spew won't change anything about this.

These pigs know what is going to happen to them and are only trying to frame the argument in terms favorable to them. The pigs are just looking for sympathy from those too stupid to think. I consider it like taking advantage of idiots with Stockholm Syndrome .

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-07-24   11:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA (#8)

www.manhattan-institute.org/html/miarticle.htm?id=4603

NU Profiling Study Really Proves Nothing
May 19, 2004

By Heather Mac Donald

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TO THE TORTURED subject of racial profiling, a recent study by Northeastern University is said to add new evidence. But does it?

University researchers found small racial disparities in traffic citations issued by 249 Bay State police departments. The findings have been greeted as proof of police bias. This conclusion is at best premature, since the Northeastern study lacks every prerequisite of sound profiling analysis.

To the claim that the police stop 60;too many61; members of any given demographic group, the question must always be: 60;too many61; compared to what? The Northeastern study compares police stop rates to population demographics. If 7 percent of a town’s residents are black, for example, but 8 percent of traffic citations issued by the town’s police are for black drivers, the authors conclude that the police single out drivers on the basis of skin color.

But population is a flawed benchmark for analyzing police actions -- as if police officers are guided by the census rather than by behavior. Crime rates differ across racial and ethnic groups; evidence suggests that driving behavior might, too. A 2001 study of the New Jersey Turnpike, for example, found that black drivers were twice as likely to speed as white drivers, a disparity that increased at speeds above 90 miles per hour. There are many possible explanations for this difference: Black drivers may be more likely to travel long distances on the turnpike, bringing them more frequently into faster left- hand lanes, or the black population on the pike may contain more young males than the white population, raising the number of speeders as well. The Northeastern study makes no effort to determine driving habits among its target groups; it thus has no basis for judging whether police stop rates are disproportionate.

Driving patterns are just the start of valid profiling analysis. Different levels of equipment violations, such as broken taillights and missing vehicle registration tags, must be accounted for as well. Poor people have to defer required repairs more often than the affluent, and poverty is concentrated in minority populations. No word from the Massachusetts study on this factor, however.

Next question: Who’s on the road when? Highway populations can vary wildly according to time of day and day of the week. If more police are on patrol when the proportion of minority drivers is highest -- on weekend nights, for example -- stop rates of those drivers will perforce be higher than the average road population would predict. Northeastern’s method for determining road demographics is laughable -- in most cases extrapolated from such alleged predictors as local restaurant and hotel receipts -- and is no substitute for hour by hour observation of traffic and police deployment.

Most egregiously, the profiling researchers ignore the relationship between community crime rates and police presence. Calls from crime victims bring officers disproportionately into minority neighborhoods, because that is where violence is highest. Responsive commanders will target policing strategies in those same neighborhoods, to protect the most vulnerable residents. A greater police presence in an area usually produces more citations.

A reliable model of police discretion requires many more variables; the Northeastern team does not even hint at them. To now order Massachusetts officers to collect racial data, without developing a valid benchmark for that data, is senseless -- even more so given how minute the disparities measured by the recent study are. Cops will waste countless hours filling out forms that no one knows how to analyze, and they may think twice before stopping minority violators, lest they be accused of racism.

As usual, the ultimate victims of this groundless crusade will be law- abiding members of inner-city neighborhoods, who depend on an energized police force to keep them safe. There may be isolated officers who violate their oath of impartiality, to the disgrace of their profession, but no one has ever produced evidence that the vast majority of cops use skin color, rather than behavior, to determine whom they stop, cite, or arrest. With their every move being analyzed through the prism of race, however, officers may well start to calculate their actions in terms of black and white.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-07-24   11:32:13 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#5)

The last I know of Chief Moose, he was in Hawaii.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-24   12:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

A car with 5 whites and a single black is green lighted ... a car with 5 blacks and a single wigger is RED LIGHTED !!!

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-07-24   12:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#0)

In his case, not only do I believe in Tasers, but also nightsticks and Mace. And blackjacks. And retro-abortion.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-07-24   12:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: phantom patriot (#4)

I understand that the pigs will try to arrest or at the very least, intimidate anyone who gives an attitude. however, there is a difference between not cooperating and cooperating while having an attitude. also remember that a charge is not a conviction. there is one particular time when i gave a real pig an attitude and i dont give a flying F if he likes it or not. f them., they are the servants , i dont give an f what they like or dislike. most of them are degenerates anyway. i also posted recorded him while i gave him 'attitude', he told me to turn the camera off and i said NO. then i posted it on youtube for fun. the problem is that good people are intimidated by these degenerate kooks. they can go straight to hell.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-07-24   12:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#0)

What Constitutes Racial Profiling?

Being forced to check a box for your race on any form/document.....

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-07-24   15:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#13)

I understand that the pigs will try to arrest or at the very least, intimidate anyone who gives an attitude. however, there is a difference between not cooperating and cooperating while having an attitude. also remember that a charge is not a conviction. there is one particular time when i gave a real pig an attitude and i dont give a flying F if he likes it or not. f them., they are the servants , i dont give an f what they like or dislike. most of them are degenerates anyway. i also posted recorded him while i gave him 'attitude', he told me to turn the camera off and i said NO. then i posted it on youtube for fun. the problem is that good people are intimidated by these degenerate kooks. they can go straight to hell.

I understand fully. With my luck if I tried to video them I'd get tased.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-07-27   12:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: phantom patriot (#15)

it's NOT illegal to film cops
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet? all_comments&v=PzVOuj8UFr4

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-07-28   12:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#16)

it's NOT illegal to film cops

Yeah well my luck isn't so good I'd find the rouge that would end up hurting me bad and getting off.

However, I do have one of those cells that can video and it is with me all the time.

And I never miss a good chance to test the system.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-07-29   14:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine, Jethro tull (#0)

Racial profiling is when a black person goes out looking for a white man to rob.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-07-29   14:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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