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Title: Magnetic forces to blame for 9/11 tower collapse
Source: The Independent
URL Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s ... 911-tower-collapse-924509.html
Published: Jul 24, 2009
Author: Steve Connor
Post Date: 2009-07-24 16:54:32 by Lysander_Spooner
Keywords: None
Views: 4961
Comments: 119

Magnetic forces to blame for 9/11 tower collapse

By Steve Connor

Wednesday, 10 September 2008

Scientists can finally explain why the Twin Towers collapsed on September 11, despite the temperature of the fires being well below the 1,500C melting point of the steel girders holding up the buildings.

The discovery that unusual magnetic forces within the girders made them weak at temperatures of about 500C explains away the conspiracy theories that have spread like wildfire since the disaster.

Sergei Dudarev, of the UK Atomic Energy Agency, found that steel loses its strength above 500C because its molecules undergo a physical transition from one state to another due to magnetic fluctuations. "The steel didn't melt, it just became soft. It is an unusual state and the temperatures in the Twin Towers were high enough to cause it because the thermal insulation was knocked off the girders through the impact with the aircraft," he said.

"Understanding how materials behave means we can find the right 'medicine' to make steel stronger at high temperatures... and if our work can be used for other applications, such as safeguarding tall buildings against disasters, so much the better," he said.

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#5. To: Lysander_Spooner (#0)

It's not an unusual state. Any blacksmith can tell you that when heated at temperatures well below the level produced in the WTC fires, steel and iron weaken and become malleable. Some conspiracy nuts think that the only way steel can weaken is if it's heated to complete liquification; they were only demonstrating their own ignorance.

And, by the way, some nut started the story of a pool of molten steel at Ground Zero, still liquid days after the collapse. Simply impossible. Even a nuclear explosion wouldn't have that effect. Nobody did a metallic analysis that showed this was steel or any other normal metal. What was seen was a greyish puddle of a variety of fluids, including water, paint, melted plastic, various industrial liquids, that had mixed together from the fire, collapse and fire fighting efforts at the WTC.

Shoonra  posted on  2009-07-24   23:58:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Shoonra (#5)

Any backyard griller can tell you that their grills never collapse to the ground at free fall speed despite grilling all day.

Government stooges like you have a special place reserved for you in hell.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-07-29   4:32:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: RickyJ (#44)

Any backyard griller can tell you that their grills never collapse to the ground at free fall speed despite grilling all day.

Well, to be fair, that's not a good analogy. Backyard grills are built to withstand that kind of heat without collapsing. The heat is not near the melting poing of a grill.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-28   12:29:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: SonOfLiberty (#48)

Well, to be fair, that's not a good analogy. Backyard grills are built to withstand that kind of heat without collapsing. The heat is not near the melting poing of a grill.

We all know that there were other passports in that WTC Blaze ... and that's what did it ... hahahahaha

Auto engines don't melt, fireplace grates don't melt, and neither did the beams in the WTC !

noone222  posted on  2009-10-28   12:58:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: noone222, randge (#54)

We all know that there were other passports in that WTC Blaze ... and that's what did it ... hahahahaha

See, that is a legit issue that makes me a 9/11 official party line doubter. But then if I bring it up I am labeled a kook because of the stigma associated with 9/11 conspiracists due to the demolitions in the towers belief which remains not credible. That is why I once and maybe still I felt that the more extreme 9/11 demolition by black ops theories were pushed and financed on the web by the Bush crowd as a way to shut up 9/11 dissenters.

Destro  posted on  2009-10-28   13:13:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Destro (#57)

Not to belabor the subject, but I think the CIA/MOSSAD hired (arab) intel type contractors to blow the building up. I think they planted the necessary explosives when TRI-DATA did the 1993 clean up after that bombing. (TRI-DATA is owned by SYSTEMS PLANNING CORP.)

On 9-11 I think the planes that hit the Towers were flown by remote control using devices manufactured by SYSTEMS PLANNING CORP. a company that had as its former CEO a man named DOV ZAKHEIM that had left to become the COMPTROLLER at the PENTAGON and was the Pentagon Comptroller on 9- 11, just one day after Rumsfeld announced that the PENTAGON couldn't account for 2 TRILLION DOLLARS ... there ya have it ... MEANS, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY !!!

noone222  posted on  2009-10-28   13:26:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: noone222 (#58)

CIA/MOSSAD knowledge and involvement? I am without doubt (Dancing Israelis were actually arrested on 9/11 for terrorist suspicions let us not forget). Remote piloted drone planes? I don't buy it.

Destro  posted on  2009-10-28   14:35:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Destro (#65) (Edited)

Remote piloted drone planes? I don't buy it.

http://www.sysplan.com/About% 20SPC

Dov Zakheim is also a Rabbi. He was 2 Trillion "short" at the Pentagon, and had access to remote control technologies and military protocol, and you think 5 high fivers makes a Mossad operation.

Just Check out System Planning Corp. They remote control large aircraft.

Brief Excerpt from their website:

System Planning Corporation (SPC)’s success supporting U.S. defense initiatives is rooted in its commitment to innovative solutions through advanced technology development.

SPC was founded in 1970 by Dr. Ronald L. Easley. His vision was to bring together an elite staff to conduct unbiased national security research for the Department of Defense and other agencies of the federal government.

Initially, SPC staff focused on research and studies in the areas of arms control; nuclear, chemical, and biological warfare; advanced technologies; ballistic missile defense; and continuity of government. Soon, SPC branched into the manufacture of electronic systems, prototyping and manufacturing radar systems to precisely measure the radar cross section (RCS) of the new generation of stealth platforms. As a result of this work, SPC emerged as a major leader in the low-observables community.

Today, we at SPC have increased and refined our core competencies to meet emerging national requirements and anticipate future needs. The defense, homeland security, and domestic preparedness challenges facing our nation have never been more complex, and SPC continues to lead the way in this rapidly changing frontier.

EDIT: Oh yeah ... I ain't gonna fuck around with this thread because I'm tired of the BS. I told ya what I thought and that's it. You don't have to agree.

noone222  posted on  2009-10-28   17:12:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#98. To: noone222 (#95)

I don't buy the idea of remote piloted drone planes. Sorry.

Destro  posted on  2009-10-28 17:18:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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