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Title: DC Vigil for Cindy Sheehan
Source: Self
URL Source: http://N/A
Published: Aug 17, 2005
Author: Self
Post Date: 2005-08-17 21:12:14 by crack monkey
Keywords: Sheehan, Vigil, Cindy
Views: 2773
Comments: 95

DC Candle Light Vigil

I just got back from the Cindy Sheehan Candle Light vigil at the White House. It was held on the new marble street between the park and the Whitehouse fence.

I estimate that there about 1000 people there. In front of the White House they stood thirty to forty deep and extended width of the White House. The crowd then curled around to the other side of the string to form a big ring.

To the left the Freepers were demonstrating. They had a big banner set up and it appeared that 14 people were present. People were counting, some counted 12 and some counted 14. Someone was walking in front of the Freepers with a “Draft the Bush Twins” sign.

I was really impressed with the crowd. Not a nose ring or a tattoo to be seen. They were almost 100% middle class types. All were well dressed and everyone I spoke to seemed educated and articulate. It was about 50% people over 40 and about 50% college kids. A lot of people brought their children.

It was very quiet, almost like it is at the base of the Viet Nam memorial. Everyone held candles and Zipporah's “I stand with Cindy” signs. I had run off hundreds of the signs a couple of days before and left them with people to pass out. The people sang the old '60s protest songs like We Shall Overcome and Amazing Grace.

I've been to a lot of protests, both in the present day and in the 1960s. This was one of the most dignified and well done I have ever seen. Judging from the quality of the crowd, I think Bush is in trouble.

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#14. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#12)

I was just sick I didn't have a digital camera. I will go buy one tomorrow. I keep spacing it out. They are on sale next door for $99. It's just such a pain in ass to figure out how to work the thing.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   21:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull, crack monkey (#13)

I was thinking we should maybe reserve a suite at one of the residence Inns.

Hey Jethro, sound familar? I'm infor 1 or 2 suites, this time we gotta be on a metro line. Probaly around Shady Grove Station.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2005-08-17   22:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: crack monkey (#14)

I have read that there are the one time disposibles digital cameras now, like the one time regular cameras. I don't know who is selling them, probably Walmart.

Of course it hurts, You're getting screwed by an elephant

justlurking  posted on  2005-08-17   22:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: crack monkey (#6)

September 24th will be a huge success.

That's a Saturday and a doable drive from here.

Of course it hurts, You're getting screwed by an elephant

justlurking  posted on  2005-08-17   22:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Hmmmmm (#15)

Fun time :)

pm me your phone #

Is the 24th a weekend?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-17   22:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Hmmmmm (#15)

Shady Grove is really far out. My sister found one on the south side of the mall for about the same price and it's possible to walk to the mall - a little far, but possible. What this means is that if you want to stay late or get home quick you can take a zone cab home for five to eight bucks.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   22:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

24th is a Saturday:)

Of course it hurts, You're getting screwed by an elephant

justlurking  posted on  2005-08-17   22:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: crack monkey (#9)

Which FReakers were there?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-08-17   22:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

Is the 24th a weekend?

The 24th is a Saturday. If it's anything like the woman's march it will start winding up on Friday. Should be a lot of fun in Dupont on Friday night.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   22:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

I don't know any by sight. The peace vigil guy knows them. I'll ask him who they were tomorrow. They head guy seemed to be a blond fat guy with no chin. About 40 years old. He was the one talking to the reporters.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   22:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: crack monkey (#23)

They head guy seemed to be a blond fat guy with no chin. About 40 years old. He was the one talking to the reporters.

That would be Kristinn, he fancies himself as someone important.

Of course it hurts, You're getting screwed by an elephant

justlurking  posted on  2005-08-17   22:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: crack monkey, all (#22)

I need to watch Penn State somewhere. Can we take a break for three hours in some Sports bar around noon?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-17   22:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: crack monkey (#0)

Judging from the quality of the crowd, I think Bush is in trouble.

HEY CM that's great! I'm glad I posted that link re the signs and they were put to good use. Let's hope you're right! What was the reaction of the Freepers? How were they acting, as dignified as the protesters?

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-17   22:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

Is JoePa still coaching?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-08-17   22:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#27)

god yes. he's 78 going on 45. we'll have a decent team this year.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-17   22:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: crack monkey (#0)

WOW!

1000 people?

(I bet Dubya's inside kicking furniture.)

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-08-17   22:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Zipporah (#26)

How were they acting, as dignified as the protesters?

As I said above, they were really sullen and hostile. Really, really nasty. Visibly nasty. I thought they made a bad impression. But there were only 12 to 14 so it didn't make that much of a stir. Some fat broad was running around photographing all the Sheehan supporters. I guess she was going to send the photos to the feds.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   22:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: crack monkey (#30)

Some fat broad was running around photographing all the Sheehan supporters. I guess she was going to send the photos to the feds.

Hmm maybe I'll check FR and see what what they've got to say about it. brb

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-17   22:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Zipporah (#26)

I'm glad I posted that link re the signs and they were put to good use.

That sign was the most popular one there. Some had it on only 1/2 of an 8 by 11 paper and some had it landscaped on the whole page. Everyone was holding it up with their candle.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   22:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: crack monkey (#30)

Sounds like an intimidation tactic..

It's amazing, I used to hear them talk about the assholes they ran into during various protests and we mocked this kind of behavior.

I just can't believe how far they've fallen.

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-08-17   22:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: crack monkey (#30)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465566/posts

No photos that I can see so far maybe on another thread.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-17   22:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: crack monkey (#34)

Heres another thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465323/posts

Also from the first link, their report from DC:

DC Chapter After Action Report TURN ON YOUR NEWS!

Posted on 08/17/2005 7:04:56 PM PDT by StayAt HomeMother

Y’all might want to watch your local / national 10 and 11 pm news for tonight’s FReep in front of the White House.

(Mod – please allow this to stay in “Breaking News” for an hour or so.)

Kristinn just called as they were wrapping up. Here is his phoned-in report:

There were about 300 of “them” and 18 of “us.”

We started out in front of the Andrew Jackson statue facing H Street, but the Park Police sent us on our way because we did not have a permit.

We moved to in front of the White House on Pennsylvania Ave and set up the MOAB. For a picture of this banner see: "4-Corner FReep of Code Pink's Quagmire at Walter Reed, Aug 12 (Heavy graphics, Join us Aug 19!)"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465323/posts

“They” left their location and followed us. “They” were “ticked off” by our presence and one of “them” asked, “How come you FReepers always have the big signs?” Kristinn replied, “We’re good, man, we’re good.”

They (the lefties and the media) wouldn’t leave us alone. The police had to tell everyone to pipe down.

That was ironic because “they” were supposed to be having a silent vigil. They sang their old 60’s protest songs and chanted such original sayings “No Blood For Oil.”

We had lots of flags – Kristinn saw only two of “them” holding a couple of small American flags.

“Andy” came tonight (see the Walter Reed After Action Reports for more about her.) Also on our side tonight was Kevin Pannell, the Vet who lost both his legs in Iraq. (Again, see last Friday’s AAR for a picture of him.)

One woman showed us a picture of seven relatives in uniform with the eighth relative, a woman, soon to join them. She said, supporting the FReepers,“This is why you are out here tonight.”

{This is the end of what Kristinn reported to me staying here at home. They’ll report in as they get home.}

See also: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464735/posts URGENT: D.C. Chapter Support the Troops & OIF Demo at White House 7 p.m. Wed. 8/17/05

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-17   22:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jhoffa_ (#29)

1000 people?

The crowed was in the shape of one of those Texas cow horn things with the thickest part up against the White House fence. The two "horns" then wrapped around the street towards the park. In one corner I counted 500 people. That is how I got my 1000 extimate. It was probably a little more than than at the peak, but it thinned out after it started. Maybe only four hundred at 9:00 pm.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   22:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Zipporah (#35)

Crawford War Protesters Lead Peace Vigil

Updated 10:17 PM ET August 17, 2005

Hundreds of candlelight vigils calling for an end to the war in Iraq got underway Wednesday in a national effort spurred by one mother's anti-war demonstration near President Bush's ranch.

The vigils were urged by Cindy Sheehan, who has become the icon of the anti-war movement since she started a protest Aug. 6 in memory of her son Casey, who died in Iraq last year.

Sheehan says she will camp outside Bush's ranch until his monthlong vacation ends or he meets with her and other grieving families.

Bush has said he sympathizes with Sheehan but has made no indication he will meet with her. Two top Bush administration officials talked to Sheehan the day she started her camp, and she and other families met with Bush shortly after her son's death.

More than 1,600 vigils were planned from coast to coast Wednesday, according to the organizers, liberal advocacy groups http://MoveOn.org Political Action, TrueMajority and Democracy for America. A large vigil was also set at Paris' Peace Wall, a glass monument near the Eiffel Tower that says "peace" in 32 languages.

As the sun set in Crawford, about 100 protesters lit candles and placed them in plastic cups to shield them from the breeze. They gathered around a wooden, flag-draped coffin.

In Concord, N.H., about 150 people stood shoulder-to-shoulder Wednesday outside the Statehouse holding candles and signs supporting Sheehan.

Karen Braz, 50, brought a pink votive cup shaped like flower petals and a sign that read "Moms for Peace."

"My son is 26. It could've been him," she said, her voice breaking.

Some critics say Sheehan is exploiting her son's death to promote a left-wing agenda supported by her and groups with which she associates. They say scores of Americans, including relatives of soldiers killed in Iraq, support Bush and his plans to keep troops there.

http://FreeRepublic.com, which holds rallies to support troops and to counter anti-war demonstrations, planned to hold a pro-Bush rally Wednesday night at the same time and same Washington, D.C., park as a candlelight vigil there.

"For us the organizers of the vigil are phony-baloney, betraying the sacrifices that those, men and women make in Iraq, by demanding that we pull our troops out now and leave Iraq to go to hell," said Kristinn Taylor, co-leader of the group's Washington, D.C., chapter. "This is a publicity stunt."

Some 200 people took part in a peace vigil in Cincinnati's Fountain Square. Many carried candles, but were told not to light them because of potential harm to the downtown landmark. Demonstrators softly sang "Give Peace A Chance" and lined one side of the square with signs, drawing honks of support from some passing motorists.

In Hawaii, Kalihi Valley resident Charmaine Crockett expected at least 140 people to gather Wednesday evening in the backyard of her hilltop house to light candles in sympathy for Sheehan.

"I'm very moved by one person making a difference," Crockett said. "This isn't an anti-war protest. The beauty of it lies in its silence ... And I never expected it to get this large."

Several dozen people gathered in front of the state Capitol in Madison, Wis., for the vigil there.

Carol Berglund, 56, of Madison, had a sign attached to the back of her bicycle reading, "It's time for peace. Stop the war."

"I don't think we ever should have gone there. I think it's immoral to be the starters of a war, to be the aggressors," Berglund said.

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-08-17   22:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Zipporah (#35)

There were about 300 of “them” and 18 of “us.”

He's fudging a little here. I'm pretty sure there were over a thousand of "them" at the start of the rally and there really were only 12 to 14 Freepers there. The press didn't focus on them. All the TV stations used the Sheehan crowd as a backdrop when doing thier reports.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   22:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: crack monkey (#36)

he crowed was in the shape of one of those Texas cow horn things with the thickest part up against the White House fence. The two "horns" then wrapped around the street towards the park. In one corner I counted 500 people. That is how I got my 1000 extimate. It was probably a little more than than at the peak, but it thinned out after it started. Maybe only four hundred at 9:00 pm.

"Kristinn just called as they were wrapping up. Here is his phoned-in report:

There were about 300 of “them” and 18 of “us.”

I thought this was funny. The FR report was portrayed as a huge success and even THEIR report show that there was about 20 Xs fewer Freepers at the event.. make sense of it.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-17   22:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: crack monkey, all (#6)

The Freepers were absolutely vicious. People couldn't even walk in front of them without being called out. They were so mad they were hissing and spitting when they spoke. Most were in their late twenties or early thirties and all seemed to be fat and creepy looking.

Can anyone tell me why these neocon pigs aren't in Iraq themselves?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-17   22:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Zipporah (#39)

If they got 200 people in Downtown Cincy, it's tough for me to believe that only 300 showed up in DC.

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-08-17   22:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Zipporah (#39)

make sense of it.

Think Jim Jones.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-17   22:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jhoffa_ (#37)

"For us the organizers of the vigil are phony-baloney, betraying the sacrifices that those, men and women make in Iraq, by demanding that we pull our troops out now and leave Iraq to go to hell," said Kristinn Taylor, co-leader of the group's Washington, D.C., chapter. "This is a publicity stunt."

Some 200 people took part in a peace vigil in Cincinnati's Fountain Square. Many carried candles, but were told not to light them because of potential harm to the downtown landmark. Demonstrators softly sang "Give Peace A Chance" and lined one side of the square with signs, drawing honks of support from some passing motorists.

gosh Kristinn has a way with words --> phony-baloney? Publicity stunt? LOL!

Interesting there were 200 at Fountain Square I didnt read anything about a vigil being planned.. did you?

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-17   23:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Zipporah (#43)

Not a word.

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-08-17   23:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

Can anyone tell me why these neocon pigs aren't in Iraq themselves?

They were ready for this question. They were screaming "What is it about this shit?" when anyone would ask it. They didn't have an answer, but they were ready to shout the question down.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   23:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

Think Jim Jones.

Like CAPPS says.. JimJones Robinson

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-17   23:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

Can anyone tell me why these neocon pigs aren't in Iraq themselves?

that is the pertinent question.

christine  posted on  2005-08-17   23:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

Can anyone tell me why these neocon pigs aren't in Iraq themselves?

Because they're chickenhawks


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-17   23:05:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jhoffa_ (#44)

Interesting there were 200 at Fountain Square I didnt read anything about a vigil being planned.. did you?

I didn't get anything either. I think I saw something about the 1000 planned vigils here. I just went down to see what was going on and discovered the thing.

Usually my email is buried in this stuff but I rarely answer. I seriously think they just invited their best and most active people. This is why the crowd was so good. They didn't want a circus so they didn't put out a general invite. I didn't get one because I rarely respond to their stuff. They have an "active" list of the people who have been putting in time for Sept 24. I think the invite just went out to these people. These people then asked their friends who they figured would be OK.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-17   23:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: crack monkey (#45)

They didn't have an answer, but they were ready to shout the question down.

I say let them try to FReep 100,000 of us.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-17   23:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Flintlock (#48)

That's the answer, Flint.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-17   23:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: ALL (#51)

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-08-17   23:12:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#50)

I say let them try to FReep 100,000 of us.

Or even 5,000

They'd run home to their mothers the first chance they got.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-17   23:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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