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Title: MUST LISTEN!
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URL Source: http://tinyurl.com/mcmq6h
Published: Jul 28, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-07-28 10:06:51 by christine
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Comments: 5

I listened to this twice thinking my ears had deceived me! Prepare to be shocked! Click this link: tinyurl.com/mcmq6h

On Page 425 of Obama's health care bill, the Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes...They are going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!!! And no, I am NOT kidding YOU! So those of you who voted for Obama have now put your own parents in dire straights...Congratulations!

Also, planned denial of medical care for seniors.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Welcome to your required counseling session. Dr. Kevorkian will right with you.

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wbales  posted on  2009-07-28   10:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's why they want to RUSH the 1,000 PLUS Bill through.

POPULATION REDUCTION

Distractions of 'The death of the man with the white glove' and PSUSA's post about Was This a setup from the begining?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-07-28   10:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

www.politifact.com/truth-...ements/2009/jul/23/betsy- mccaughey/mccaughey-claims-end-life-counseling-will-be-requi/

The above says the provision on page 425 says that the government will pay for a counseling session every 5 years but it is not mandatory. I would focus on the 500 billion dollar cut in services to seniors.

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Horse  posted on  2009-07-28   11:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for the link. worth a look. I have not read the actual bill but this article says that the wording is not 'mandatory', but rather, it mandates medicare to pay for it if the patient wants it. (not that mandatory wording would 'force' anyone, anyway). Also, i wonder where this woman was when bush was pushing his mental health screening. I also dont know if that was actually 'mandatory',. because everyone was screaching about it at the time but where are the parents in jail and kids stolen for refusing this alleged 'national mandatory mental health screening' that dr paul wrote about, such as in his good article the psycho state? (9/14/04) I agree with his views but can anyone verify if this plan is actually in place? I HIGHLY doubt it. no kids i know of have had any mental health screening. and here it is 5 years after all the hype. have any kids you know been subjected to mandatory mental screening? Even Dr Laura, infamous government meddling-into-parental-affairs- and CPS advocate, spoke out against bush's mandatory mental health screening program. and supposedly it 'passes'. well where is it? ----------------------------------------------------

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/23/betsy- mccaughey/mccaughey-claims-end-life-counseling-will-be-requi/ ----------------------

The health care reform bill "would make it mandatory — absolutely require — that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session that will tell them how to end their life sooner." Betsy McCaughey on Thursday, July 16th, 2009 in on the Fred Thompson radio show

McCaughey claims end-of-life counseling will be required for Medicare patients Bookmark this story: Buzz up!ShareThisRepublicans have found many reasons to oppose the Democrats' health care proposal, but this is one of the oddest.

Betsy McCaughey, chairman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and former lieutenant governor of New York state, says the bill goes too far to encourage senior citizens to end their lives.

On the radio show of former Sen. Fred Thompson on July 16, 2009, McCaughey said "Congress would make it mandatory — absolutely require — that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session that will tell them how to end their life sooner."

She said those sessions would help the elderly learn how to "decline nutrition, how to decline being hydrated, how to go in to hospice care ... all to do what's in society's best interest or in your family's best interest and cut your life short."

Her point has caught on with conservative pundits. On his July 21 show, Rush Limbaugh said the following:

"Mandatory counseling for all seniors at a minimum of every five years, more often if the seasoned citizen is sick or in a nursing home. ... That's an invasion of the right to privacy. We can't have counseling for mothers who are thinking of terminating their pregnancy, but we can go in there and counsel people about to die."

McCaughey is no stranger to the health care debate. In 1994, she wrote a scathing review of the Clinton administration's health care plan in the New Republic, a left-leaning magazine, arguing that the proposal would lead to rationing of treatment and would prevent patients from choosing health insurance. Republicans seized on the key points of "No Exit," forcing the Clintons to issue a response to the article.

She jumped back into the fray earlier this year while Congress was debating a $787 billion stimulus package. In a Feb. 9 Bloomberg op-ed column, McCaughey criticized the bill for including a plan to monitor health treatments to see which are most cost effective. The elderly, she said, would be denied treatment as a result.

Now the Democratic health care bill is in her sights.

In her chat with Thompson, McCaughey said the language can be found on page 425 of the health care bill, so we started there. Indeed, Sec. 1233 of the bill, labeled "Advance Care Planning Consultation" details how the bill would, for the first time, require Medicare to cover the cost of end-of-life counseling sessions.

According to the bill, "such consultation shall include the following: An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to; an explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses; an explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy."

Medicare will cover one session every five years, the legislation states. If a patient becomes very ill in the interim, Medicare will cover additional sessions.

Jon Keyserling, general counsel and vice president of public policy for the National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization, which supports the provision, said the bill doesn't encourage seniors to end their lives, it just allows some important counseling for decisions that take time and consideration.

"These are very serious conversations," he said. "It needs to be an informative conversation from the medical side and it needs to be thought about carefully by the patient and their families."

In no way would these sessions be designed to encourage patients to end their lives, said Jim Dau, national spokeman for AARP, a group that represents people over 50 that has lobbied in support of the advanced planning provision.

McCaughey's comments are "not just wrong, they are cruel," said Dau. "We want to make sure people are making the right decision. If some one wants to take every life-saving measure, that's their call. Others will decide it's not worth going through this trauma just for themselves and their families, and that's their decision, too."

Both Keyserling and Dau were particularly troubled that McCaughey insisted — three times, to be exact — that the sessions would be mandatory, which they are not.

For his part, Keyserling said he and outside counsel read the language carefully to make sure that was not the case.

"Neither of us can come to the conclusion that it's mandatory." he said. "This new consultation is just like all in Medicare: it's voluntary."

"The only thing mandatory is that Medicare will have to pay for the counseling," said Dau.

For our ruling on this one, there's really no gray area here. McCaughey incorrectly states that the bill would require Medicare patients to have these counseling sessions and she is suggesting that the government is somehow trying to interfere with a very personal decision. And her claim that the sessions would "tell [seniors] how to end their life sooner" is an outright distortion. Rather, the sessions are an option for elderly patients who want to learn more about living wills, health care proxies and other forms of end-of-life planning. McCaughey isn't just wrong, she's spreading a ridiculous falsehood. That's a Pants on Fire.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
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George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-07-28   12:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They are going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!!!

LOL!! Suicide training, their insanity is indeed limitless!

The demented fools are so freighted about old folks bringing down the empire of greed they have built that they would engage in mass murder to satiate their greed.

If they mess with social security they piss off three generations of Americans, the retired, their children and grandchildren who will have to care for the elders. LOL!! You would see more self-appointed elite vermin hanging from trees all over the country than you would if they tried to take the guns from Americans.

These freaks are scared stupid, so you can count on them to do some really stupid thing in the not so distant future.

eskimo  posted on  2009-07-28   14:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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