Title: 'I saw Satan as Baraq Ubamah.' Did Jesus actually reveal name of the 'antichrist'? Source:
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For centuries, many have wondered about the identity of a biblical leader who will do Satan the devil's bidding, trying to thwart the plans of Jesus Christ shortly before His prophesied return to Earth.
That character has come to be known as "the antichrist," even though the Bible never uses that word to describe any single person.
Now, after endless speculation suggesting Presidents John F. Kennedy, Franklin Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush could possibly by the End Times Bad Boy, there's a new viral video placing the current occupant of the White House into the club.
An American Christian has produced a brief film for YouTube that connects one statement by Jesus in the Gospel of Luke to President Barack Obama.
His 4-minute video focuses on the direct quote: "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." (Luke 10:18)
"When I started doing a little research, I found the Greek word for 'lightning' is 'astrape', and the Hebrew equivalent is 'Baraq,'" said YouTube contributor "ppsimmons," a self-described Christian with a theological education and many years in the ministry, who spoke to WND under condition of anonymity. "I thought that was fascinating."
As he continued looking into the rest of the words in the phrase, he focused on "heaven," and found that it can refer not just to God's dwelling place, but also "the heights" or "high places."
He then recalled Isaiah 14:14, where Lucifer, another name for Satan, is quoted as saying, "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."
"I wondered what the word 'heights' is," said ppsimmons, "and I looked it up in the dictionary, and it's 'Bamah.'"
Thus, on the video, the announcer notes, "If spoken by a Jewish rabbi today, influenced by the poetry of Isaiah, He (Jesus) would say these words in Hebrew ... 'I saw Satan as Baraq Ubamah.'"
"Gosh, was Jesus giving us a clue or was this just a freak coincidence?" thought the filmmaker at the time of his research.
"I want to emphasize I'm not ashamed of what I put there," he told WND. "I'm not proclaiming he is the antichrist, or that I'm some kind of a Hebrew expert, but the word associations are indisputable. The Hebrew word for lightning is 'Baraq' and the word for heights or high places is 'Bamah.'"
The movie has a prominent disclaimer stressing the film does not declare "BHO" [Barack Hussein Obama] to be the antichrist, but is merely pointing out the Hebrew words and their "striking" correlations to Jesus' statement.
Obama is far from being the first public figure to have his identity tied to Bible prophecy. For instance, President Reagan was considered by some to be a potential merely because each of his names – Ronald Wilson Reagan – has six letters, prompting some to think of 666, the "number of the beast" in the Book of Revelation.
Modern books such as "Naming the Antichrist: The History of an American Obsession" and "Antichrist: Two Thousand Years of the Human Fascination with Evil" have chronicled a wide variety of other suspects including Henry Kissinger, Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Italy's Benito Mussolini, Juan Carlos of Spain, Israel's Moshe Dayan, Egypt's Anwar Sadat, the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, Elvis Presley and ex-Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, perhaps for his famous birthmark on his head that some thought could be "the mark" of the beast mentioned in Revelation.
When WND asked if people should take the video seriously or with a grain of salt, its producer said, "I take the middle road. I don't take it with a grain of salt, but I don't use the Bible like a Ouija board either. It's not like a magical crystal ball. Clear prophecy is one thing. Making word associations is another. Just look at it. I wouldn't take it super serious and say that's the proof we need. It's a little weird."
With the video posted now in several locations on YouTube and more than 75,000 total views, there has been plenty of reaction, with comments such as:
* Anyone who knows multiple languages, which I do, and attempts to translate from one to the other knows that some meaning and inflection is lost in the translation. Here, we're translating three times: from Aramaic to Greek, and Greek to English, and English to Hebrew. A lot to be lost.
* If I went through thousands and thousands of pieces of text about the devil (the whole bible!), I could find things to say [Fox News anchor] Glenn Beck is the antichrist.
* It was Michael Jackson. No wait. It was George Bush. No wait. It was Paris Hilton! What the [expletive] is wrong with you people? Grow up. I bet you don't worship the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, too. Do you?
Build a fire for a politician/bankster/pig and he will be warm for a day. Set a politician/bankster/pig on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Isa 14:2-28 KJV And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors. .....
Quite obviously, it is the kings of Babylon, the superpower of the ancient world and oppressor of the Jews (and everyone else) who are described.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the House of Israel didn't go to Babylon in the ancient world....the tribes of Judah and Benjamin did. The House of Israel went into Assyria.
I think Isaiah 14 is a prophecy for the "House of Israel" today, and the King of Babylon/Lucifer referred to is Satan's last tool against the "House of Israel" [and could very well be Obama]. The House of Israel today is the church, particularly the church in America, and we have "gone to Babylon" [ bible.cc/micah/4-10.htm , bible.cc/zechariah/2-7.htm ], as we are living under the Babylonian Talmud:
The Ultimate Delusion By: Stephen Ames. Queen Elizabeth controls and has amended U.S. .... It explains how the Babylonian Talmud became the law of the land, ... Now before you scream that the UCC is unconstitutional I'm sorry people, ... www.theforbiddenknowledge...uth/ultimate_delusion.htm
I'm not disagreeing with everything you are saying, but am trying to get some things straight. I posted this Obama as Satan thing a while back, and am now almost sorry I did it.
My personal belief is that "antiChrist" refers to ALL who deny Christ. Obama is related to Bush and Cheney, and most of the other Presidents, and the British Monarchy, and Charlemagne, and a whole host of antiChrist people. If there were to be a FINAL antiChrist, I thought Clinton, and then Bush, would all be good candidates. Is Obama the final "one"? I wouldn't have a hard time believing it, but there is more here, that I am still checking out, and have been since the other day, when someone else posted a similar thread. But, I also think it very possible this is what the PTB WANT us to think, and therefore I think it very possible that THEY are the ones putting this out there, for their final battle against the church.
[written yesterday]
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
This fellow updated this movie last night. I watched it, but I was tired and it was either me, or the thing was less clear. I'll try to watch it again later when I get my computer cleaned up or it crashes, whichever comes first.
I wanted to thank you for that link. I had seen that site before...I remembered the article IN THE DAY OF THE GREAT SLAUGHTER, THE DAY THE TOWERS FELL, but I remember it as being very short, as it was within days of 9/11. I just started reading it again, skimming it only because my computer is dragging and I'm trying to get to the point where I can shut it down and reboot.
I see he, too, recognizes America as the New Israel. Everyone always used to say how blessed America was. America was blessed because her God was the LORD [Psalm 33:12], until she let the Jews sneak in and DEFILE her [Micah 4:11]. I HIGHLY recommend everyone read this. He doesn't seem to see the hidden at hand at work: US GOVT., CITY OF LONDON, AND ISRAEL, but then I suspect this was written several years ago, and hardly anyone knew the truth about 9/11. I knew it was an inside job [US GOVT.] seconds before the Pentagon blew up, but I didn't know about Israel and the UK, yet, either.
PLEASE, EVERYONE, READ THIS. THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST IN 1607 AT CAPE HENRY, VIRGINIA WITH THE FIRST VIRGINIA CHARTER AND THE CROSS THAT WAS PLANTED IN HIS NAME. WE ARE ISRAEL RESTORED, AND THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY NEED TO PUT THEIR TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST, NOT IN HORSES AND CHARIOTS, AND PRAY THIS "MOUNTAIN" BE THROWN INTO THE SEA, AND THAT HE, GOD, WILL BE OUR "WALL OF FIRE" IN THE DESTRUCTION THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR US [ZECHARIAH 2:5]:
If someone could post it, bolded words and all, that would be great.
Another comment.
I posted this "Obama is the AntiChrist" at the "Comet Lulin" 4um thread [The American Economy is Not Coming Back.....because God has a new role for us, after He brings us through this: Rev. 5:9-10].
Under "Lucifer is a Hoax":
".....here we have a whole city being thrown down from heaven to hades, their grave. And so it is with the King of Babylon whose "pomp is brought down to the grave" (Isa. 14:11). These two Scriptures are exact parallel thoughts.
Now then, back to "lucifer." Just what is the Hebrew word found in the manuscripts that the translators turned into the Latin word Lucifer? It is very interesting. All of you with a Strong’s Concordance, look up this word Lucifer. Right after the word Lucifer we are given a definition before we ever go to the Dictionary to find the meaning. Here is what you will find: Lucifer (lu’sif-ur) {1} Title applied to king of Babylon.
Clearly the editor of Strong’s Concordance realized that this word (whatever it means) is to be applied to the "king of Babylon," and NOT TO SATAN THE DEVIL!
We are told that the word in question is Strong’s #1966 which is heylel, from 1984 [halal] (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star:--Lucifer.
What a web of deceit is woven in this "light-bringing-brightness-morning-star-Lucifer" theory. This word "Lucifer" appears no other place in Scripture. Was Satan ever spoken of as a "light-bringing perfect archangel"? No. What saith the Scriptures?
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is TRANSFORMED into an angel of light" (II Cor. 11:14).
Satan is NOT an angel of light, neither has he ever been! It is the "false apostles, DECEITFUL workers" Ver 13, that DECEIVE people into believing lies. Satan appears as an angel of light to the world; he is transformed into an angel of light, but it is an illusion, it is not true, it is a deception!
Paul expels any such theory that Satan knows anything about "light":
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against power, against the RULERS OF THE DARKNESS of this world" (Eph. 6:12).
Rev. 16:10 is but the continuation of the same Babylonian beast that we read about in Isa. 14:
"and the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast [Babylon] and his kingdom was FULL OF DARKNESS…"
So what is this heylel/halal of Isa. 14:12? Here is the problem—too many translations of previous translations without checking the Hebrew manuscripts first.
Lucifer is the Latin Vulgate translation of the word "xosphoruos" in the Septuagint, which is a Greek version of the Hebrew of Isaiah 14:12, which the King James translators then translated over into the English as "Lucifer."
The Latin and the Greek, as well as a supposed form of a "Hebrew" word in verse 12 mean "bright shiner" or "shining one." The problem is, however, that Isa.14:12 was not written in Latin or Greek, but Hebrew. And I assure you that "lucifer" is not a Hebrew word, nor is it an English translation of a Hebrew word. Lucifer is Latin, and is related to a group of Latin derived English words including lucid, luciferin and luciferose, as we saw defined above, all of which suggest brightness or shining. Likewise xosphoros in the Greek derived English words such as, fluorescence and phosphorescence.
But, there seems to be no Hebrew or Aramaic text in which there is a word in this verse to correspond. What we find in all such texts is the word "hehlehl,’ eill, which is a form of the Hebrew stem "yah-lahl," ill. And what is the meaning of "ill"? Are you ready? It means HOWL. That’s right, "Lucifer" turns out to be nothing more than a "howl" (maybe of ‘hot air’)!
It has been suggested that the translators of the Septuagint (Hebrew into Greek) could have overlooked the smallest of the Hebrew letters or been using a copy in which it had been inadvertently omitted. Thus if the form of the world eill, as it occurs in this particular text, were shortened to ell its meaning would be derived from a different root, in fact would be itself a different root, and the sense given in the Septuagint and the Vulgate would be at least understandable, with one giant exception. There is still absolutely no reason or rule of grammar for turning this word into a personal name! It could possibly mean "a shining one," but not a personal name such as "Lucifer." Doubtless the translators followed the Vulgate as they did in most of their translating.
Even such an eminent translator as Rotherham seemed to follow the Septuagint in this verse, however, from his comments within parenthesis, it is clear that he was fully aware of the fact that whatever this word meant, it was referring to none other than the context of these verses which is Babylon and not Satan:
"How has thou (Babylon—see context) fallen from heaven, O Shining One (O howl)—Son of the Dawn! (Babylon conspicuous as Venus). Hewn down to the earth, O crusher of nations."
Clearly the reference is to Babylon and none other. It was Babylon which was exalted to heaven (as conspicuous as Venus, the brightest star of the morning) in her wealth, power, and glory. Yet just as Capernaum, God says she is brought down to the earth, the one who was a "crusher of nations."
Next I will list the King James renderings of the word that is found in the "Hebrew" texts and transliterations of its various forms in every occurrence in the entire KJV Bible. Now you can be the judge. In all Hebrew or Aramaic texts of Isa. 14:12, the only word found is "heh-lehl," eill, which is a form of the Hebrew stem "yah-lahl," ill, meaning howl. Here is Kittel’s Hebrew Text for the Hebrew Stem ill—"yah-lahl"—HOWL:......."
Note Isaiah 65:14 is one of the passages he lists:
[NIV version because I don't have a KJV handy, and am dragging too slowly to dare try to pull it up]:
14 My servants will sing out of the joy of their hearts, but YOU will cry out from anguish of heart and WAIL [HOWL] in brokenness of spirit. [Think WAILING/HOWLING WALL.]
15 [KJV because I know it by heart] You will leave your name for a curse unto my chosen, for the LORD God shall slay thee, and call His servants by another name.
There are TWO Israels in Isaiah 65: one CURSED, and one BLESSED. It should be obvious by now which is which:
16 Whoever invokes a blessing in the land will do so by the GOD OF TRUTH; [Jesus: I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE]; he who takes an oath in the land will swear by the God of truth [three words: KOL NIDRE OATH]....
I find the "HOWL" thing intriguing because there is a mystery ROAR FROM OUTER SPACE, according to NASA. Knowing THE LION [Jesus] WILL ROAR, I have listened to it, but didn't know what to make of it. I hate to say it, but it sounded kind of creepy, more like a moan, or possibly a HOWL. I still am unsure what to make of it, and NASA might even be lying, but after reading this, I was reminded that the DEVIL also ROARS, seeking whom he may devour. He is probably howling right about now, knowing his time is very, very short.
Thanks again for posting that link.
I am going to try to post a new article that seeks to debunk this Obama as Antichrist thing. Antichrist in the Bible is ANYONE who rejects Christ. Obama is related to most of the Presidents and the British Monarchy and Charlemagne and a host of other ANTICHRIST people. He could be the CHIEF PRINCE of them all, a title that could have fit Clinton and Bush as well, and since time is so short, maybe he is "THE Antichrist".....I don't know.
[written today]
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the House of Israel didn't go to Babylon in the ancient world....the tribes of Judah and Benjamin did. The House of Israel went into Assyria.
Jews, historically speaking, are the tribe of Judah. That's where the name comes from. This is why the name Israel doesn't really describe the modern state accurately.
I think Isaiah 14 is a prophecy for the "House of Israel" today, and the King of Babylon/Lucifer referred to is Satan's last tool against the "House of Israel" [and could very well be Obama]. The House of Israel today is the church, particularly the church in America, and we have "gone to Babylon" [ bible.cc/micah/4-10.htm , bible.cc/zechariah/2-7.htm ], as we are living under the Babylonian Talmud:
Hmmmm...this is the section of Isaiah that is the Oracle of Nations, namely, telling Israel how God will deal with the nations and empires. There is another section that is the Oracle of Israel and so on. The prophetic books of the OT are divided up this way in sections and this is the literary style of the prophetic books and how we recognize them as a body of prophetic Jewish writings. Trying to apply these to Gentiles, as though somehow their intended audience was not the Jews living in the Mideast in ancient times, is just a little wacky. If that were true, then Jews were not even then a Chosen People because God wasn't even addressing them in the prophetic books, He was just using them as a way to transmit a message to modern flapadoodle apocalyptics who have read too many Left Behind books, pretty much American evangelicals and charismaniacs and the whole Christian Zionist rabble in America.
My personal belief is that "antiChrist" refers to ALL who deny Christ.
I'm not sure why you consider that a "personal belief" since scripture states very plainly that large numbers of persons then and in times to come would be antichrists, of a spirit to oppose the teachings of Christ and persecute His followers.
Obama is related to Bush and Cheney, and most of the other Presidents, and the British Monarchy, and Charlemagne, and a whole host of antiChrist people.
You're trying to muster a historical argument here but the message of scripture is consistent: have nothing to do with antichrists, know them by their rejection of scriptural doctrine and correction by brethren, know the signs and behavior of false brethren, and expect to be persecuted if you follow Christ. This is the same in all ages and eras, even in so-called Christian nations.
I see he, too, recognizes America as the New Israel.
This is Puritan thinking, the idea of America as a new Promised Land and as City On A Hill, as enjoying God's particular blessing, etc.
It is nothing new. You can read the Puritan leaders and preachers if you want to find more on it. Focus on those like Cotton Mather and his father, Increase Mather.
You also find that these teachings were used to justify sweeping away the native Indians and taking their land, the Monroe Doctrine, right down to the present day "nation-building" we engage in, though rather selectively. Nation-building is most favored by God apparently in close proximity to oilfields, oil reserves, and oil pipelines.
You really should review the extensive history of the American apocalyptic and its variations, how those interact with imperial and business interests throughout our history.
Jews, historically speaking, are the tribe of Judah. That's where the name comes from. This is why the name Israel doesn't really describe the modern state accurately.
I will have to get back to this, but quick note:
HISTORICALLY, no, I can't do that quickly..... "JEWS" were NOT the tribe of Judah.
More importantly, they are NOT the true Jews today. Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of Judah; He is the head of the clan; those who have rejected Him are NOT His seed: Isaiah 53:10/.Galatians 3:16-29 A TRUE JEW is one who is circumscribed in His Heart, taken hold of the NEW COVENANT, where GOD's Laws are written in their HEARTS and NOT the RABBI's TALMUDIC laws.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I've read enough about the "Puritans" et al from the Northern Kingdom of America to know they were the ones Christ warned us to BEWARE OF.
They were spiritual, if not genetic descendants of the ones who led the first Israel astray.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I could be wrong but my readings suggest that God blesses people not countries.America like Israel has embraced the concept of "Exceptionalism" to justify all manner of sin's
I could be wrong but my readings suggest that God blesses people not countries.America like Israel has embraced the concept of "Exceptionalism" to justify all manner of sin's
HISTORICALLY, no, I can't do that quickly..... "JEWS" were NOT the tribe of Judah.
I don't care what you can or can't do.
The word Jew comes to us via Aramaic and Hebrew, the words 'yehudi' and 'yehudah' or Judah in modern terms. These words are the basis for the modern word Jew via ancient Greek and then to Latin and Old French.
American exceptionalism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Progress of America, 1875, by Domenico Tojetti
American exceptionalism (def. "exceptionalism") refers to the theory that the United States occupies a special niche among developed nations[1] in terms of its national credo, historical evolution, political and religious institutions and unique origins. The roots of the term are attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville,[2] who claimed that the then-50-year-old United States held a special place among nations, because it was a country of immigrants and the first modern democracy.[citation needed] The term itself did not emerge until after World War II[3] when it was embraced by neoconservative[4] pundits in what was described in the International Herald Tribune as "an ugly twist of late".[5] More recently, President Barack Obama noted that "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism."[6] He also said that "there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."[7] Research shows that "there is some indication for American exceptionalism among the [U.S.] public, but very little evidence of unilateral attitudes".[8]
Build a fire for a politician/bankster/pig and he will be warm for a day. Set a politician/bankster/pig on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
It takes YEARS of study in a seminary to be able to change "all" to hardly anyone.
You are deceptive. Jesus gave himself for everyone. Everyone doesn't accept his sacrifice. For wide is the way to hell and narrow the way to heaven. I think the words specifically were for wide is the way that leadeth to destruction and narrow is the gate to life. Or something like that.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Build a fire for a politician/bankster/pig and he will be warm for a day. Set a politician/bankster/pig on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.
Build a fire for a politician/bankster/pig and he will be warm for a day. Set a politician/bankster/pig on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Hahahaha .... I was laughing about you telling A K A Asshole to eff - off !
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.
American exceptionalism (def. "exceptionalism") refers to the theory that the United States occupies a special niche among developed nations[1] in terms of its national credo, historical evolution, political and religious institutions and unique origins. The roots of the term are attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville,[2] who claimed that the then-50-year-old United States held a special place among nations, because it was a country of immigrants and the first modern democracy.[citation needed] The term itself did not emerge until after World War II[3] when it was embraced by neoconservative[4] pundits in what was described in the International Herald Tribune as "an ugly twist of late".[5] More recently, President Barack Obama noted that "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism."[6] He also said that "there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."[7] Research shows that "there is some indication for American exceptionalism among the [U.S.] public, but very little evidence of unilateral attitudes".[8]
It can be argued that every nation on Earth believes in "exceptionalism" to one degree or another.
From another point of view, it can be argued that "exceptionalism" is a belief by a citizen of a nation that their nation has a right to exists.
It can be argued that every nation on Earth believes in "exceptionalism" to one degree or another.
There is no question about that.. in the case of America the American culture is different. Its patriotism, individualism, religiosity, and spirit of enterprise make it different from all other countries on earth having said that politicians and pundits will exploit this to justify all manner of atrocities just need to look at those who use exceptionalism as a tool.In the case of Israel it uses "Gods Chosen" as it's excuse for genocide!
There is no question about that.. in the case of America the American culture is different.
No, it isn't different. Saying other wise is a double-standard towards the U.S. You are holding the U.S. to a harsher standard than you do the rest of the nations on Earth.
Yes I am ...I do hold America to harsher standard than any other nation because no other nation was born in the concept of liberty....if you got a hour here is a one hour lecture on the subject.
The Myth of American Exceptionalism
Howard Zinn
Americans have long embraced a notion of superiority, claims Howard Zinn. Governor Winthrop of the Massachusetts Bay Colony described establishing “a city on a hill,” to serve the world as a beacon of liberty. So far, so good. But driving this sense of destiny, says Zinn, was an assumption of divine agency—“an association between what the government does and what God approves of.” And too frequently, continues Zinn, Americans have invoked God to expand “into someone else’s territory, occupying and dealing harshly with people who resist occupation.” Zinn offers numerous examples of how the American government has used “divine ordination” and rationales of spreading civilization and freedom to justify its most dastardly actions: the extermination of Native Americans and takeover of their land; the annexation of Texas and war with Mexico; war against the Philippines; U.S. involvement in coups in Latin America; bloody efforts to expand U.S. influence in the Middle East, Africa and Asia.
The battle against Communism, often bolstered by arguments of America’s divine mission in the world, was merely a convenient excuse to maintain U.S. economic and military interests in key regions. Today, says Zinn, we have a president, who more than any before him, claims a special relationship with God. Zinn worries about an administration that deploys Christian zealotry to justify a war against terrorism, a war that in reality seems more about establishing a new beachhead in the oil-rich Middle East. He also sees great danger in Bush’s doctrines of unilateralism and pre-emptive war, which mark a great leap away from international standards of morality.
Build a fire for a politician/bankster/pig and he will be warm for a day. Set a politician/bankster/pig on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Hahahaha .... I was laughing about you telling A K A Asshole to eff - off !
Are not AKA Stone and Old Zionist Friend one in same??
I, therefore, second rob's statement.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
It's obvious you never watched the video....and you better believe I hold America to a higher standard no different than the standard I apply to anyone who claims moral superiority
As for "Revolts for freedom have created a number of nations throughout history"
1. It's obvious you never watched the video....and you better believe I hold America to a higher standard no different than the standard I apply to anyone who claims moral superiority
2. Name one?
1. What you don't understand is you are raising the standard so high for America that it is impossible for America to achieve.
And that standard is becoming destructive towards America. That high standard is being used by other nations as a way
2. France after the royalty were overthrown. Sure it went to hell soon after. But they did fight for their freedom, they even had a document similar to the U.S. Declarations of Independence, they just to chose to ignore it soon after the Community for Public Safety achieved power.
Build a fire for a politician/bankster/pig and he will be warm for a day. Set a politician/bankster/pig on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Please here are some facts you seem to overlook...It was the first nation founded in an act of rebellion against a colonial power. It was the first nation founded on the belief that the rights of man are inherent and God-given, and that the powers of the government derive from the consent of the people. It was, therefore, the first nation to recognize that the state must be limited to the powers granted by the people, and to recognize explicitly that the state was founded to secure their rights. It was the first nation to be based on a separation of powers, and on the clear subordination of the military to civilian rule. And it was the first nation to state all of this in a constitution that was publicly debated and democratically accepted.
Other nations – Britain, most notably – share in some of these traditions, and that is not surprisingly, because the United States was deeply influenced by ideas born in England in the 17th century. But precisely because the U.S. was founded – whereas Britain evolved – the U.S. exemplifies these virtues in their purest form. That is why it is exceptional. And that is a fact that has been recognized by Europeans for centuries.
I'm not surprised. Arminian theology always ends in incoherent conclusions.
Those wacky armenians.
It's good to start the morning with a laugh!
It's interesting, and sickening, that most people think it's either being forever burned to a crisp and being run through with pitchforks, and being generally tortured for trillions and trillions of millenia or you get away with everything.
You seem to be another one that thinks torture is OK. You a calvinist? If your "god" can do it, why can't you? Be an imitator of your "god", right??? Be perfect even as He is perfect??? Torture is perfect, right??? It's "perfect justice", right???
Build a fire for a politician/bankster/pig and he will be warm for a day. Set a politician/bankster/pig on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.