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Title: 'GUN NUT' BUSTED AT BASE
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URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/0801200 ... _nut_busted_at_base_182423.htm
Published: Aug 1, 2009
Author: KIERAN CROWLEY
Post Date: 2009-08-01 08:23:26 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 27
br>August 1, 2009
A Long Island mother of three -- armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun -- was arrested for scouting out and taking pictures of an Air National Guard base in the Hamptons, authorities said.
Suffolk County Undersheriff Joseph Caracappa said Nancy Genovese, 53, of Quogue, was arrested for trespassing outside the Gabreskie Airport ANG facility Thursday night, and Homeland Security and the FBI are also investigating.
Caracappa said Genovese was taking photographs of the perimeter of the base. A search of her car uncovered an arsenal -- an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammunition.
When asked what she was doing, she replied, "Nothing."
"They are registered weapons, but they're scary weapons," said Caracappa. "It's very odd."
He said she had been at the base a few weeks earlier, taking photos and asking questions of the guards.
Genovese, an unemployed single mom with no prior arrest record, was charged with trespassing.
She was arraigned yesterday afternoon at Southampton Town Justice Court, where a judge set bail at $50,000, and then ordered Genovese held for a psychiatric examination after she went berserk in the courtroom.
"She was hysterical -- screaming and flailing around," said Caracappa.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
This dipshit is in a position of power?
"They are registered weapons, but they're scary weapons," said Caracappa. "It's very odd."
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#2. To: Critter (#1)
Yep, the dipshit arrested her for having registered scary weapons *and* for trespassing OUTSIDE of a national guard base. Total insanity.
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
If I'm not mistaken, the XM-15 is a Bushmaster Post-Ban rifle that doesn't need to be "registered", even in NYS, and that shotgun definitely doesn't need to be registered. The guy is a gigantic twit.
Yep, the dipshit arrested her for having registered scary weapons
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#4. To: Critter (#3)
But they SCARE him. She has a law suit.
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Not smart to be so heavily armed during recon. Word to the wise.
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
Good.
She has a law suit.
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Proof is right there, that a nice wood stock makes for a kind and gentle firearm.
"They are registered weapons, but they're scary weapons," said Caracappa.
#8. To: TooConservative, all (#5)
I suspect she allowed them to look into her car knowing the weapons were registered, etc. If that's true, it's just one more example of NOT allowing cops to ask questions or search you (or your stuff) with your permission. Make them get a detailed search warrant.
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
This reported is an anti-gun twit. The so-called 'assault-rifle' goes in her right hand, the shotgun goes in her left hand, and what remaining weapon, exactly, goes in her teeth? Two weapons does not make an "arsenal". Oh wait, this was Noo Yawk. Nevermind. There, one weapon makes an arsenal. Or is that Taxachussetts?
armed to the teeth with an assault rifle and shotgun
#10. To: freeedom (#9)
Don't forget the 500 rounds. Eek!
#11. To: Jethro Tull, original_intent, twentytwelve (#8)
good advice. I suspect she allowed them to look into her car knowing the weapons were registered, etc. If that's true, it's just one more example of NOT allowing cops to ask questions or search you (or your stuff) with your permission. Make them get a detailed search warrant
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
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#12. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Not many years ago the Russians would arrest people taking pictures of the Kremlin, or an out house???
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Good advice. We should also look for ways to instigate a police search with a warrant when we know they will find nothing. Even better, document in advance that there is nothing to find so as to catch them planting false evidence, a very common practice by 'hero cops'.
it's just one more example of NOT allowing cops to ask questions or search you (or your stuff) with your permission. Make them get a detailed search warrant.
#14. To: Artisan, all (#11)
Had she done that, she's doing three things; 1) exercising her constitutional rights 2) making the system use time, effort and money to investigate her and 3) setting up the authorities for a law suit. This all takes time on the part of the person who is the subject, but passive resistance will cause the system to break.
#15. To: Jethro Tull, twentytwelve, christine, psusa, rotara, critter, hounddawg, lod, wudidiz, farmfriend, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#0) (Edited)
http://libertyfight.wordpress.com it's very amusing what a quick 2 second google search can reveal. i searched Nancy Genovese fema camps and came up with the following myspace blog: ----- Assuming from first glance that this GENOVESE is indeed the same NANCY GENOVESE who was arrested in New York, her blog reveals that she watches glenn beck and still seems to be somewhat stuck in a left- right paradigm. The keywords "Genovese, McCain, Palin" are listed at the top of her blog. She is very anti-obama, which i consider a good thing; she is for capitalism, is anti-corruption, pro-constitution. Once of her most recent blogs was about a boycott of MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN (Fox was noticably missing form her post). She wrote "These networks are biased leftwing organizations". She blogs about FEMA camps, military drills, and details how FEMA called her at her home recently. She also posted an interesting story of her recent interaction with an abusive police officer who grabbed her arm and screamed at her that "THERE IS NO MORE CONSTITUTION". Her posts are usually very long, but they reveal a peek into the mindset of a woman fighting the good fight. PROFILE: RECENT POST EXCERPTS: ------ June 23, 2009 - Tuesday 2:18 AM To all active military and law enforcement (warning) Current mood: accomplished Category: News and Politics to all active military and lawenforcement (warning) I wish all of you would add this video to your profile and/or blog. I just did. Re post this video. Thanks for reading --------- EXCERPT: Officer screams in my face, “There is no more Constitution!!” I have to admit, if it were not for this video, posted on youtube.com, 2 years ago, I would have done anything this police officer demanded. He threatened me with jail, and more. But I viewed this video a few weeks ago; someone sent it out in a bulletin. I recommend all of you to take the 45 minutes to view it. I have shown it to my three teens and some of their friends. It’s not boring and the kids’ sat through the entire thing. As I was being threatened by the police officer, I remembered this video and what my rights were and I used them. This is an amazing story, skipping over much of the details; my concern is; why how could, this police officer, after losing his professional conduct and his temper, scream at me “there is no more Constitution.” The above statement worries me, about the real condition of this country, and the fate of our constitution and our constitutional rights, more than anything. This was one hell of a long two days. I had a landlord tenant issue that went on, today, and continued to the next day. My Tenant was avoiding me for 2 days, didn’t pay his rent, completely out of character for this guy. Something was very wrong. My tenant arrives, he had been drinking heavily, also out of character, (well maybe not, he is in AA) and he was behind the wheel of a van. My tenant told me he was moving out. I asked him to return tomorrow, sober, to pick up his things. End result, my tenant phoned the police. The officer arrived, I took out my files, I showed him all the docs I had. These docs were in proper order, explaining official use of the home between my tenant and myself. Nothing about the tenant having use of storage is mentioned. The officer kept insisting he wanted to go, with my tenant, into my house. Also they wanted access into the area where the tenant said had some boxes stored. I told the officer I would not allow him to go into the storage area. I didn’t do anything illegal. The officer insisted I open the outside door and let him go into the storage room and my house, which is on a different floor. I just kept saying “no, sir, you have no warrant. I know my rights.” This went on for hours. I gave the same answers for hours. I insisted the officer needed a warrant; he had no right to enter my house, or my storage area. There was lots of screaming from the officer, and my tenant, screaming commands, demands, and so on. The police officer wanted to intimidate me and my teenagers. The police officer took me by the arm and told me I was under arrest. I knew I didn’t do anything and stood my ground. I didn’t say a word; I walked towards his police car, as he held my arm. I think he expected me to be upset, in tears, begging to let me change my mind and open the storage door for him. Nope, I knew he had no reason to arrest me. This is MY house. He HAD no warrant. I didn’t have to unlock the door and I didn’t have to LET THE OFFICER IN MY HOUSE WITHOUT A WARRANT. He had no reason to get a warrant either. I have to admit, the officer was totally taken back by the fact that I would not let him in my home without a warrant or that I didn’t get the least bit upset as he was pretending to arrest me. I remained calm. This officer was in my face, nose to nose over and over again, threatening to put me in jail, again, unless I opened my door for him. He asked my two sons to open the door for him; they gave the reply, “NO”. The officer became so unprofessional, because we were not intimidated by his demands, his temper tantrums, his screaming and his treats to take me off to jail. Please view the above video for future reference, just in case. I know I would have caved in to this police officers demands if I had not seen that video, called; “BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters” No, sir, you may not enter my home without a search warrant,” (over and over again.) I don’t submit to a search, I do not have to speak to you. Remaining calm, I told the officer, over and over again, “This is private property, it’s posted, this is a private road, I want you to leave my property, and you do not have a warrant. This is my house. I do not have to open my door in any part of my house to let you in. I know my constitutional rights!!” Well…this is when the police officer lost it completely and screamed in my face, “ “There is no more Constitution.” Can you imagine this? How could these words roll off his tongue so easily, in a fit of rage? Is he being trained for the day he can say these words and mean them? My two boys were as floored as I was. My one son took me by the arm as I felt myself fill with horror! I felt my face drain; I was shocked, my eyes lit up and I gasped for air! My boys knew exactly what it meant to me to hear the police officer to say “…there is no more Constitution,” simply adds more truth to all we have been reading about our country and our rights taken away from us on a daily basis. I have been reading and showing my teens the videos regarding these topics, their Constitutional Rights. If marshal law is imposed, there is a possibility of the government freezing the constitution, the bill of rights. I read some of the info to the kids often and it paid off tonight. The boys were clam, confident even in the face of a screaming officer. I was so proud of my two boys, doing the same thing, giving the officer the same answer, over and over again. I believe most people would have given in to his demands, especially after the officer grabbed my arm and told me I was under arrest. I can’t believe I had the nerve to follow what I learned in this video, and I can’t believe it worked. Several times the officer called for backup. We remained calm, we repeated ourselves, regarding the officer demanding entry into the house. The three of us even replied in harmony, all at once to the officer’s demands to enter the house, “No, you need a warrant.” Just remember, OUR constitutional rights still work FOR us! Even today, with all we have going on in America, our Rights are still there for US to use, IF we know how to use them. Don’t believe everything the police tell you. They will lie through their teeth to get what they want at that moment, and then lie again later when you complain to their supervisors. My last words to the officer (a town cop) were;I do not submit to searches, I do not have to speak to you, I do not want to speak to you, this is private property, this is a private road, get off my property, NOW!!! We went inside the house, locked the door and they all left my property. I was not under arrest, he lied, I never did get arrested for anything, I did nothing wrong. This cop was simply bulling me and I used, what I learned in the above video, for the strength and knowledge, to stand up to him. Putting out this video is the only thing I can say thanks to the ACLU for. Remember the police are there to do a job and that job is NOT to be your friend.
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Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Ok,somebody want to splain to me HOW you can be arrested for tresspassing "OUTSIDE" an area? Has the meaning of the word changed? I hope she gets a good lawyer and sues the hell out of these cretins.
Nancy Genovese, 53, of Quogue, was arrested for trespassing outside the Gabreskie Airport ANG facility Thursday night
#17. To: sneakypete (#16)
You can't trespass on a private property unless you're on it. The article says she was outside, so how the hell did a reporter not bother to explain what this charge was entailed?
#18. To: Artisan (#15)
Odd that so many on the Right, especially the Religious Right, don't see what Faux really is. You can scarcely watch more than five minutes without hearing them parrot the very same liberal-left ideas of the other networks. A good sample was on there yesterday as they ranted over the father who prayed for his daughter instead of seeking medical help. They were fully endorsing, in the repeated statements of their on-air personalities, the idea that every child actually belonged to the State, that the State was the protector and decider of all major decisions in the life of a child, that no one could be beyond the reach of the State. Yet, this is a handful of cases (300 over the last 25 years, a microscopic dozen per year) on the topic of parents' rights to make decisions as opposed to the right of the State to ownership of The Children. This paves the way, as stated by Faux newsreaders approvingly, to repealing the laws in most states that offer any protection to parents being the final authority in decision making for their children's health. Is it any coincidence that this is happening and that such a minor health risk for children nationwide is happening and spotlighted by libmedia (including Faux) just as they are rushing a dangerous vaccine to market and beginning to assert more of their mandatory vaccination policies? I think not. It is no coincidence that all the networks are centered in New York. They essentially pedal New York values (which have bankrupted their state and the nation) and ideas about politics, justice, race, etc. to the rest of the country with their media bullhorns at ABCNNBCBS and, most dangerous because it is so trusted by the convservative hinterland, Faux News. Faux is the Pied Piper of rural America.
Once of her most recent blogs was about a boycott of MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN (Fox was noticably missing form her post).
#19. To: sneakypete (#16)
Trespassing outside a hangar or building but on the grounds leased or owned by the military. Trespassing next to the fence of a military property on ground that is owned by that military branch even though not inside the fence.
Ok,somebody want to splain to me HOW you can be arrested for tresspassing "OUTSIDE" an area?
#20. To: Artisan (#15)
The video she posted on her MySpace page. Good stuff.
#21. To: TooConservative (#18)
very good points.
as opposed to the right of the State to ownership of The Children.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
Yeah,that's the point I was making. Maybe the reporter was afraid of the police arresting him for trespassing and terrorism if he asked these questions?
You can't trespass on a private property unless you're on it. The article says she was outside, so how the hell did a reporter not bother to explain what this charge was entailed?
#23. To: TooConservative (#19)
Trespassing outside a hangar or building but on the grounds leased or owned by the military. She wasn't doing that. Trespassing next to the fence of a military property on ground that is owned by that military branch even though not inside the fence. BullBarack! Maybe the charge should have been "almost tresspassing",or "next to tresspassing"?
#24. To: sneakypete (#23)
Aren't you getting a bit overwrought? If she was on unrestricted public property or on her own private property or on private property she had permission to be on, the judge would have thrown out the charge of trespassing since she hadn't violated the property of others. Obviously, she was on someone's posted property, probably the ANG's.
BullBarack! Maybe the charge should have been "almost tresspassing",or "next to tresspassing"?
#25. To: TooConservative (#24)
No,I don't think so. The issue is individual freedoms versus the power of the state,and the state is clearly abusing it's authority.
Aren't you getting a bit overwrought?
#26. To: Jethro Tull, all (#0)
Any bets that she was on an anti-depressant?
"She was hysterical -- screaming and flailing around," said Caracappa.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#27. To: Original_Intent (#26)
I bet you're right
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