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Title: Breaking - 3 US troops, 1 French soldier die in Afghanistan
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090801/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
Published: Aug 1, 2009
Author: AP
Post Date: 2009-08-01 09:57:40 by Jethro Tull
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3 US troops, 1 French soldier die in Afghanistan Buzz up!1 vote Send Email IM Share Delicious Digg Facebook Fark Newsvine Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Yahoo! Bookmarks Print AFP – An Afghan man carries a photo of presidential candidate and former finance minister Ashraf Ghani in Kabul. … Slideshow:Afghanistan Play Video Afghanistan Video:Protestors May Appear At Funerals Of Servicemen KDKA Pittsburgh Play Video Afghanistan Video:Military analyst: Change in mission means more danger in Afghanistan WRAL Raleigh 16 mins ago KABUL – A U.S. military spokesman says three American troops have been killed in two blasts in southern Afghanistan.

Navy Chief Petty Officer Brian Naranjo says the attacks happened on Saturday.

Southern Afghanistan is the center of the Taliban-led insurgency, which has made a violent comeback since its initial defeat in the U.S.-led invasion. Thousands of U.S. Marines and British troops are conducting anti-Taliban operations in the region ahead of this month's presidential elections.

Separately, a French soldier was killed and two others were wounded during a clash with insurgents north of Kabul, the French military said in a statement.

The number of U.S. and other NATO killed in bombing and clashes has soared this year.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

KABUL (AP) — NATO says three of its troops were killed in two roadside blasts in southern Afghanistan.

The military alliance says the blasts hit their patrol on Saturday. It did not provide details on the nationalities of the victims or the exact location of the blast.

The number of NATO and other foreign troops killed in clashes and bombing has soared this year. With 74 foreign troops killed, July was the deadliest month for foreign troops since the start of the war in 2001.

Southern Afghanistan is the center of the Taliban-led insurgency, which has made a violent comeback since its initial defeat in the U.S.-led invasion. Thousands of U.S. Marines and British troops are conducting anti-Taliban operations in the region ahead of this month's presidential elections.

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#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Blaming O'Bots for the continuing bloodshed there is akin to blaming Republican Party members who supported Dr. Ron Paul throughout the last few years for Bush having started the bogus wars since 9/11 to begin with.

Obama is for the Afghanistan war, obviously. But if you'll check any reputable public opinion poll of those who were his earliest and staunchest supporters and followers, you will find that they are ANTI-ALL WARS and voted for him IN SPITE OF his pledge to ramp up the Af/Pak operations.

It is no accident that the earliest, most vociferous and most enthusiastic grassroots support of the 2007-08 presidential derby coalesced two years ago around the campaigns of Paul and Obama. At that time they were BOTH TOTALLY ANTI-WAR, IIRC. Obama later on was told by his NWO advisers (Soros and Brzezinski come to mind) that he HAD to support Af/Pak and so he dutifully modulated his anti-war rhetoric in favor of what he now supports.

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-01   10:13:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Blaming O'Bots for the continuing bloodshed there is akin to blaming Republican Party members who supported Dr. Ron Paul throughout the last few years for Bush having started the bogus wars since 9/11 to begin with.

Huh?

First, RPs support didn't come from Republicans.

Second, RP was against the war while the Rs supported it.

Third, Obama supported the war, and the Os on this board did too.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-01   10:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In order to vote for Ron Paul last year, you had to vote as a Republican. All who voted for Paul by definition became Republicans, at least for that day.

That is one of the MAJOR problems with Ron Paul, IMO. He IS a Republican and always will be. He ran once as a Libertarian for President (and I voted for him), but he went crawling back to the GOPers several years after that.

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-01   12:46:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In order to vote for Ron Paul last year, you had to vote as a Republican. All who voted for Paul by definition became Republicans, at least for that day

And not one who voted for RP supported war in Afghanistan. OTOH, the Ds knew Obama was going to surge the place with lots o' troops, and lo and behold he did! So ya' see, it's the political LEFT who are the blood dancers. So sorry if that's troubling. As I said, the two Os here have acknowledged they support Obama's GOOD war. What's that about?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-01   12:54:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And not one who voted for RP supported war in Afghanistan.

Well, Ron Paul did. So did I and a lot of others.

Afghanistan and the Taliban were sheltering those who had attacked America. This is very comparable to the Barbary pirates who operated against American shipping and hid behind the Barbary states. Somalia recently was doing much the same thing.

You can't let pirates or terrorists operate against you by being shielded by a host country. The Founders never allowed it.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-08-01   13:09:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sam, since you can't seem to understand what's being written, listen to RP himself.

He opposes the war in Afghanistan. That you support it might put you in good standing with the O'Piles, but it also makes you a Blood Dancer.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-01   13:33:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

listen to RP himself.

He opposes the war in Afghanistan.

He opposes this endless nation-building nonsense. However, he did vote for the Afghan war. He believed that our military should go in and take out al-Qaeda and any Taliban who helped them or shielded them.

We are way past that now and our government has shown very little interest in catching bin Laden. And Ron Paul doesn't believe in garrisoning other countries or nation-building.

Still, he supported the invasion and he did vote for it, something notable for a notorious Dr. No.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-08-01   15:00:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

However, he did vote for the Afghan war.

Please tell me you're kidding, TC. I didn't know. Isn't RP the man who teaches us about the Constitution every time he opens his mouth? How does he plug the round peg in the square hole with this vote? Isn't he aware of our history; what we break we keep?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-01   16:50:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Please tell me you're kidding, TC. I didn't know. Isn't RP the man who teaches us about the Constitution every time he opens his mouth?

Yes, he voted for it. As I said earlier, he considered it analogous to the Barbary pirates who operated from the Barbary states. It was our original conflict with Muslims. Recall singing about "the shores of Tripoli" back in school? That was the first real war action of our Marine Corps.

Ron Paul did try to get Congress to issue letters of marque and reprisal (to pay private companies like Blackwater just to hunt down bin Laden) but Congress wouldn't go for it. Under international treaties to which we are signatory, privateering and laws of marque and reprisal are no longer recognized.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-08-01   20:27:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

With his vote, RP authorized undeclared war. I'm stunned he voted to give that authority to a president.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-01   21:10:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

With his vote, RP authorized undeclared war. I'm stunned he voted to give that authority to a president.

I think he found it troubling, knowing he was not voting according to principle.

OTOH, we had been attacked on 9/11 with 2500+ victims and bin Laden issued a tape claiming credit, all this after a number of al-Qaeda attacks around the world on Americans and U.S. assets. So he had some justification.

I think politics is probably the wrong career if you demand absolute purity of principle. If you look at our Founders, they found it difficult to maintain a perfect purity of principle as well.

Politics is just a messy business.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-08-02   7:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: TooConservative (#30)

bin Laden issued a tape claiming credit

TC: The MSM showed us a grainy YouTube of someone claiming to be bin Laden, and then went on to tell us what he said. Lets stay in the world of the reasonable and agree that the attack wasn't unexpected, and was the "Pearl Harbor" needed for the neocons. BTW, FDR knew of Pearl Harbor some 7-10 days before the event but chose to sacrifice those men to gain entrance into WWII. Same with the Gulf of Tonkin; it was a lie used by LBJ to widen Vietnam. Since I know this history, RP knows this also and his vote to give Bush any war authority was, certainly in hindsight, a colossal mistake.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-02 07:34:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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