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Title: People Are F**cked
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Published: Aug 1, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-08-01 21:07:51 by wudidiz
Keywords: what, wrong, with, people?
Views: 781
Comments: 85

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#1. To: wudidiz (#0)

Is that in the verbal sense or as a noun?

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   21:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Is that a trick question?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-01   21:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: wudidiz (#2)

No fucking way.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   21:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: wudidiz (#0)

wud...

I suggest it needs clarification in that it is the...unwashed masses... you speak of, not people in general?????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   21:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#3)

Prove it. Are you new here????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   21:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)

I would be happy to answer the question except that I find it tricky in that I don't really understand it so I'm having a hard time answering it.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-01   21:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wudidiz (#0)

A wide enough topic that Plato would have spent half his life discussing.

Thought provoking though.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-01   21:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wudidiz (#6)

I would be happy to answer the question except that I find it tricky in that I don't really understand it so I'm having a hard time answering it.

English a tricky language for you wud????

Actually, you better watch OI, he may have ulterior motives posing such a tricky question.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   21:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom, Wudidiz (#5)

Well the ambiguity of the question of course hinges upon in which sense it is intended.

Is "fucked" an entity thus a noun, an action or state of being and thus a verb, or a modifier (adjective) and thus modifying the meaning of people.

So, in order to discuss it the ambiguity needs to be resolved.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   21:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz (#9)

I would say that the verbal use of that term is quite final. Quite finite.

Over and done with. Accomplished fact. Virginity is no longer a question.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   21:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#4)

I suggest it needs clarification in that it is the...unwashed masses... you speak of, not people in general?????

Well, not everyone is f**cked. But most everyone is one way or another. At least it seems so much of the time. Some more than others. I wasn't directing it at anyone here in particular by any means. Just people I have to deal here and there from day to day. So much bulls**t. So much misunderstanding. So much insanity. So much misinformation, deceit, nonsense. I'm sure you get the picture.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-01   21:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#9)

So, in order to discuss it the ambiguity needs to be resolved.

Please refer to post #11?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-01   21:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All, Lod (#7)

A wide enough topic that Plato would have spent half his life discussing.

Thought provoking though.

See, Lod gets it.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-01   21:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz, all (#13)

For some reason, it called this to mind, enjoy -

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-01   21:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wudidiz (#13)

I was fairly our of control when this hit the charts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-01   21:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#10)

Point granted. Tis a verb.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   21:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom, wudidiz (#8)

Actually, you better watch OI, he may have ulterior motives posing such a tricky question.

Or a warped sense of humor.;-)

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   21:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#16)

Satiddy nite and I spect wud has been in the grape juice again.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   21:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom, wudidiz (#18)

Of course as a certified toque wearing Great White Norther it could be a little Molson.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   21:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)

Mrs. wud has him weaned off the hard stuff, grape juice on saturday nite is his only sin.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#20)

Mrs. wud has him weaned off the hard stuff, grape juice on saturday nite is his only sin.

Beaujolais, Burgundy, Pinot Gris, Chardonnay?

What kind of "Grape Juice"? ;-)

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#21)

As long as it's not Mogen David, you're good.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-01   22:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#21)

The best for olde wud...The Domaine Romanée-Conti

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Lod (#22)

I would rather drink "Vick's Formula 44".

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent, Lod (#24)

Were you ever a down and out free loading beer snitch????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#24)

Good point.

I had MD once- it tasted like they had put grape jam and everclear into a blender and let'er rip.

Back in the collegiate days, we had parties where we'd get a new fifty gallon tub, and then everyone would bring 'something' to add to the mix. The very worst of those brews were much better that Mogen David on its best day.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-01   22:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom, drinkers, or former drinkers here (#25) (Edited)

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-01   22:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom, drinkers, or former drinkers here (#25)

All beers ever did here was make me full, and make me have a need to frequently myself of it.

My drink du jour is New Amsterdam Gin and Organic Raw Apple Cider - I've convinced myself that it's quite healthful for me.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-08-01   22:26:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom, wudidiz, Lod (#23)

The best for olde wud...The Domaine Romanée-Conti

From Forbes (The World's Most Expensive Wines):

The world's most expensive bottle of wine that could actually be drunk today is also the most expensive wine ever sold in America, a Montrachet 1978 from Domaine de la Romanée-Conti that was hammered down at Sotheby's (nyse: BID - news - people ) in New York in 2001. The lot of seven bottles fetched $167,500, or $23,929 per bottle. This is an extraordinary price for a white wine, even in the rarified world of wine collecting. What happened was that two avid collectors were bidding against each other and got carried away, each refusing to yield as the price rose through the stratosphere.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lod (#26)

Back in the collegiate days, we had parties where we'd get a new fifty gallon tub, and then everyone would bring 'something' to add to the mix.

College sissies, wussies.

In the islands we had a large tub, prolly stolen, those that had hard likker contributed, then we stirred it with dirty old broom handle, drank from mess kit tin cups, soon you never heard so much weeping and wailing in your life.

A few would fall off the balcony, others relieve themselves there. Next day would have to send out scouting parties looking for lost souls.

Seagrams Seven was a buck and five cents, VO was a buck twenty five.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#25)

I've always bought my own. Not much of a beer drinker though - the occasional Grolsch Lager or Guinness though - when I'm in the mood. I'm more of a Single Malt and Cognac (but not at the same time) kind of guy. Although once in a drunken spree during my ill spent youth I recall mixing Beer and Glenlivet. My compadre Chris and I thought it was hilarious sacrilege at the time. Tried it again sober and it was absolutely disgusting.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod, Cynicom, Original_Intent (#28)

New Amsterdam Gin and Organic Raw Apple Cider

I haven't drank since '95, but I imagine that would be very good.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-01   22:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent, Lod (#29)

MY Father and Uncle use to make dandelion wine.

It was clear with yellowish tinge. One had to be careful in handling as it would blow the cork off.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#30)

Seagrams Seven was a buck and five cents, VO was a buck twenty five.

So much for post-war inflation. By the time I was stationed overseas it was about 6 bucks for a half gallon of Smirnoff, although 151 Bacardi was 7.75. My favorite Cognac was about 11 bucks a fifth.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#31)

I've always bought my own.

You make me feel ashamed.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#33)

Only once have I had Dandelion Wine - it was marvelous - a little sweet but I loved the flavor. The high sugar load would explain the "popping top" as it would probably build up a head of gas in the bottle.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#34)

So much for post-war inflation

We use to bring back 40 cases at a time, huge profit.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#36)

Could always tell when Dad and Unc were in no pain, down cellar by themselves, singing and silly girlish laughter, now and then a POW as a bottle got mishandled.

Some nites the cellar door was locked and they had to sleep down there.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-01   22:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#37)

So much for post-war inflation

We use to bring back 40 cases at a time, huge profit.

I'll bet. Even then the cost of a bottle of hootch was mostly State and Federal taxes. Take off the taxes and you cut the price by 75%.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#38)

Some nites the cellar door was locked and they had to sleep down there.

Sounds like something my Aunt in Montana would do - lock the door. She's also a Black Belt in "Rolling Pin". ;-)

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-01   22:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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