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Title: Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate
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Published: Aug 3, 2009
Author: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/08/bir
Post Date: 2009-08-03 22:20:07 by tom007
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Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate * 8/3/09 at 6:02 PM * Comment 8Comment 8Comments Over the weekend, the leaders of the Birther movement forged a Kenyan birth certificate that they claim proves that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, and therefore is not legally president. Even though this was rapidly debunked, even by supporters of the Birthers, leaders like Orly Taitz, the Zsa Zsa of the lunatic fringe of the right wing, have still taken to the airwaves to proclaim victory. Of course, they're getting an increasingly hostile reception. In this clip, watch as Taitz goes off against MSNBC hosts, calling them "offensive," linking their behavior to Hitler's paramilitary "brownshirts," and proclaiming that they "will not be on TV for too long." Watching this video, we realized that it's not just the famous Hungarian actress and socialite that Orly reminded us of. There's someone else close to our hearts to whom (at least vocally) she bears an uncanny resemblance. If only we could put our finger on it. Visit msnbc.com for Breaking News, World News, and News about the Economy
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Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president.
Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president. It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should be allowed to profit from the fraud. If Obama is proven to be not a natural born American Citizen then he is not and never has been President but is instead a Usurper. The Oxford American Dictionary defines it thus: usurp verb - "take (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force." "Richard usurped the throne" OR (my own) Obama usurped the Presidency by fraud. There is no credible evidence in the public record showing that Oh'bummer was born in Hawaii. The Certificate of live birth does not count as it could be granted to someone born somewhere else such as Kenya - or like his sister, born in Indonesia, who also has a Certificate of Live Birth. Explain why someone who is innocent of the charge would spend in the vicinity of one million dollars to hide the evidence of their innocence.
It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should be allowed to profit from the fraud. If Obama is proven to be not a natural born American Citizen then he is not and never has been President but is instead a Usurper. The Oxford American Dictionary defines it thus: usurp verb - "take (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force." "Richard usurped the throne" OR (my own) Obama usurped the Presidency by fraud. There is no credible evidence in the public record showing that Oh'bummer was born in Hawaii. The Certificate of live birth does not count as it could be granted to someone born somewhere else such as Kenya - or like his sister, born in Indonesia, who also has a Certificate of Live Birth. Explain why someone who is innocent of the charge would spend in the vicinity of one million dollars to hide the evidence of their innocence. Very good post. However, if I may, I believe a couple of corrections are in order, as follows: Per, "It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should be allowed to profit from the fraud." I thionk you probably meant to say, "It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should NOT be allowed to profit from the fraud." Also, where you speak of a "Certificate of Live Birth;" it appears you are referring to the COLB Obama's minions posted on the Internet. As such, when spelled out, it would be a "Certification of Live Birth" rather than a Certificate.
My bad - I intended to say "Not" and didn't catch when proofreading my post. And yes to the second: COLB = Certificate of Live Birth. Short on time gotta run.
Short on time gotta run. No problem, I didn't realize you were already aware of it. Right... COLB = Certifi From http://www.flick r.com/photos/23580873@N05/3201196892/: Barack Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen regardless of the authenticity of this insufficient document. According to his own smears web-site, he was a British subject at time of Birth because of his father's citizenship. He admits this on his OWN web-site."
How many dozen times have I linked you to that pic and yet you still trot out the old picture to prove your case? Why are you intentionally bringing out old evidence instead of addressing the high quality evidence? **Edited for piece of shit outdated browsers.
**Edited for piece of shit outdated browsers. By the way, if you click that pic to the max and look at the image thereon of the stamped "pressure seal," you will note that the outside ring formed by the seal is a perfect circle. It doesn't take an expert to know that it is impossible to use such a seal on a flat piece of paper (the paper is automatically flattened via the application of the seal), fold the paper across the seal, take a photo of that paper in the folded position and end up with an image of a perfect circle such is portrayed in that photo. In a legitimate photo, the arc of the circle on either sides of the fold would be slightly off kilter with one another due to the parts of the paper on opposite sides of the fold being at different distances/angles from the camera lens. There are only two ways to create such a photo showing a perfect circle. One would be to apply the seal to a previously snapped photo of an already folded paper and then take a second photo that would include the perfect circle seal. The other way would be to use a computer program to create all or parts of the image. Either way, that photo is a fake.
A good analysis of the purported impression seal. To my mind, one could emulate an impression seal with pressing the paper against a coin. The document made public by the Obama office last year had the bona fide impression seal - made with such pressure that tiny holes occur in the paper; FactCheck, among others, published a close-up of the seal from BOTH sides, there's an additional rubberstamp on the back. This document on a red tablecloth has a very vague seal, perfectly round - like a coin, and not so sharp as to put holes in the paper - also like a coin, and not completely readable.
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#4. To: tom007 (#1)
"Obama was born in Hawaii, the proof is there."
#7. To: buckeroo, tom007 (#4)
"Obama was born in Hawaii, the proof is there."
#109. To: Original_Intent (#7)
"Obama was born in Hawaii, the proof is there." Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president.
#110. To: packrat1145 (#109)
#113. To: Original_Intent (#110)
My bad - I intended to say "Not" and didn't catch when proofreading my post.
And yes to the second: COLB = Certificate of Live Birth.
catecation of Live Birth. ;-)) 
"This is a copy of Barack H. Obama's Certification of Live Birth that he released through his web-site. It is clear to any person with reasonable intelligence that there are many glaring problems with this document. Furthermore, any educated person, who is willing to do a certain amount of research will soon realize that a Certification of Live Birth is not quite the same as a Certificate of Live Birth. The former is a short-form for the latter. The latter includes much more information such as the name/sig of delivery physician.
#114. To: packrat1145 (#113)
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#130. To: Rhino369, 4 givan 1, Jethro Tull, Original_Intent, randge, WEAVER, Prefrontal Vortex, mirage, buckeroo, tom007, Prefrontal Vortex, rack42, TwentyTwelve, Shoonra, Sam Houston, christine, Hayek Fan, PaulCJ, farmfriend, IDon'tThinkSo, Itistoolate, Tony Two (#114)
How many dozen times have I linked you to that pic and yet you still trot out the old picture to prove your case? Why are you intentionally bringing out old evidence instead of addressing the high quality evidence?
#133. To: packrat1145 (#130)
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