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Title: Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate
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Published: Aug 3, 2009
Author: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/08/bir
Post Date: 2009-08-03 22:20:07 by tom007
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Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate

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Over the weekend, the leaders of the Birther movement forged a Kenyan birth certificate that they claim proves that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, and therefore is not legally president. Even though this was rapidly debunked, even by supporters of the Birthers, leaders like Orly Taitz, the Zsa Zsa of the lunatic fringe of the right wing, have still taken to the airwaves to proclaim victory. Of course, they're getting an increasingly hostile reception. In this clip, watch as Taitz goes off against MSNBC hosts, calling them "offensive," linking their behavior to Hitler's paramilitary "brownshirts," and proclaiming that they "will not be on TV for too long." Watching this video, we realized that it's not just the famous Hungarian actress and socialite that Orly reminded us of. There's someone else close to our hearts to whom (at least vocally) she bears an uncanny resemblance. If only we could put our finger on it.

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tom007  posted on  2009-08-03   22:47:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Obama was born in Hawaii, the proof is there."

Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-03   23:04:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president.

Nobody takes an oath to the President. They take an oath to the Constitution.

If a usurper is in the White House, the Military, the FBI, the Federal Marshals, and DHS are all bound by their oath to oust him.

Assuming this pans out, you may see a civil war erupt within the FedGov.

Now, assuming this pans out (which I doubt, but it makes for good theatre) then the Supremes will have to get involved. If Congress and the Supremes maintain that Obama is President even though he is not qualified, watch the streets carefully. It will be a riot.

mirage  posted on  2009-08-04   1:11:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Now, assuming this pans out (which I doubt, but it makes for good theatre) then the Supremes will have to get involved

The US Supreme Court already had a hand in this matter. Didn't you watch in horror as John Roberts swore the new president into office? My God, he did it twice, too.

Last updated: 3:56 pm
January 20, 2009
Posted: 1:04 pm
January 20, 2009

WASHINGTON - Chief Justice John Roberts swore in President-elect Barack Obama as president of the United States on Tuesday with a slight stumble over the wording of the oath of office in the first of what could be many important interactions between two men who rose to their positions of power quickly and who have some background similarities, but whose politics differ.

Separated by a Bible used by Abraham Lincoln at his first inaugural, Roberts asked Obama: "Are you prepared to take the oath, Senator?"

The former Illinois senator indicated he was, and Roberts started reciting - and Obama repeating - the 35-word oath that is prescribed by the Constitution.

But at one point, Obama paused abruptly after Roberts reversed several words in the oath.

The oath includes the phrase "that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States" but Roberts didn't say "faithfully" until after saying "president of the United States."

Obama apparently realized that something was out of order.

With Obama not reciting, Roberts then repeated the phrase correctly, the brief awkward moment ended and Obama was back on track.

He was then the first to congratulate Obama on his new job.

The inaugural oath is the chief justice's sole responsibility on Jan. 20 - although it is a traditional role, not one set forth in the Constitution. But the affable Roberts and his conservative-leaning Supreme Court could have much to say in the years to come about Obama's most important policy choices.

Former President George W. Bush left the court with two relatively young and reliably conservative voices, those of Roberts, 53, and Justice Samuel Alito, 58. Roberts took his seat in 2005 and Alito joined him the next year.

Roberts is the youngest chief justice in more than 200 years. He easily could still be in his role a quarter century from now, long after Obama has left office.

He and Obama are similar in many ways. Both are late baby boomers. Roberts is 53, Obama 47. And both got their law degrees from Harvard and made rapid ascents to power. But their politics diverge sharply.

Roberts was an official in Republican administrations before becoming an appeals court judge and then chief justice under Bush.

Obama was one of 22 Senate Democrats to vote against Roberts' confirmation to the Supreme Court in 2005 - the first time a Supreme Court justice has sworn in a president who voted against him.

As president, Obama will try to use Supreme Court vacancies to counter Roberts' influence, either by replacing aging liberals with justices as young as or younger than Roberts or by changing the court's balance if a conservative justice retires unexpectedly.

Obama added the words "so help me God" to the end of the constitutional oath, following a practice established by George Washington and followed by most presidents.

The last time a chief justice swore in a president of a different party was in 1997, when Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, a Republican, swore in Democrat Bill Clinton for a second term. Two years later, Rehnquist would preside over Clinton's impeachment trial in the Senate which resulted in an acquittal.

Obama didn't actually finish taking the oath until 12:05 p.m., five minutes after he actually became president under the Constitution. Clinton, in his first inauguration in 2001, also was five minutes late in taking the oath.

The Lincoln Bible used by Obama was on loan from the Library of Congress.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-04   10:11:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Didn't you watch in horror as John Roberts swore the new president into office?

Assuming things check out, then he took the Oath of Office fraudulently. It would cause a Constitutional crisis because a usurper would be in the White House.

Whether or not he was sworn in would be irrelevent. He would be disqualified from office. The Constitution DOES have provisions handling this.

mirage  posted on  2009-08-04   10:22:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Assuming things check out, then he took the Oath of Office fraudulently. It would cause a Constitutional crisis because a usurper would be in the White House.

And Congress is empowered to handle the matter. They can play around as they empowered Ken Star, pussy-footing for blue dresses with some presidential anointment imbued on a few thread fibers or cut to the chase.

But this Congress is all Democrats, even the so-called republicans except for Ron Paul. Don't worry, even if your cracked-upped scenario were to pan out, they would refuse to impeach the liar in chief.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-05   22:07:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Congress is empowered to handle the matter.

So are We the People if you remember your 9th Circuit rulings.

mirage  posted on  2009-08-05   23:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Dismiss any court jurisdiction(s)on the matter. They can't even keep up with the new laws such as Congress giving away America to the Chinese based upon unrestrained rubber-stamping by "legal-authorities" in Washington DC.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-05   23:35:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Dismiss any court jurisdiction(s)on the matter.

This was a 2A case.

mirage  posted on  2009-08-06   0:22:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think you are the same fine person I have known on the Internet chat channels for years. I can tell by your bearing but not by any authentication process so this gives you capability to exploit me in any way you want.

Still, you are a mighty, fine poster. And I recognize your perspectives and if, even by chance and if I remember incorrectly you are "mirage" from the old liberty forum, man what a great day 'tis for all of us on '4um, even if some don't respond.

Are you the same, "mirage?"

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-06   0:49:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#41. To: buckeroo (#40)

Are you the same, "mirage?"

I don't think I've been over to LF, but I have been on LP. I'm not into exploiting people so you have nothing to worry about.

To get back to the issue at hand, there was an opinion issued in a 9th Circuit ruling a few years ago where one of the justices stated that 2A was a "Doomsday Clause" written into the Constitution for those days when nobody would enforce the decisions of the Courts or a Government refused to stand down when voted out of office.

mirage  posted on  2009-08-06 03:03:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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