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Title: Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate
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Published: Aug 3, 2009
Author: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/08/bir
Post Date: 2009-08-03 22:20:07 by tom007
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Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate

* 8/3/09 at 6:02 PM * Comment 8Comment 8Comments

Over the weekend, the leaders of the Birther movement forged a Kenyan birth certificate that they claim proves that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, and therefore is not legally president. Even though this was rapidly debunked, even by supporters of the Birthers, leaders like Orly Taitz, the Zsa Zsa of the lunatic fringe of the right wing, have still taken to the airwaves to proclaim victory. Of course, they're getting an increasingly hostile reception. In this clip, watch as Taitz goes off against MSNBC hosts, calling them "offensive," linking their behavior to Hitler's paramilitary "brownshirts," and proclaiming that they "will not be on TV for too long." Watching this video, we realized that it's not just the famous Hungarian actress and socialite that Orly reminded us of. There's someone else close to our hearts to whom (at least vocally) she bears an uncanny resemblance. If only we could put our finger on it.

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tom007  posted on  2009-08-03   22:47:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Obama was born in Hawaii, the proof is there."

Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-03   23:04:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president.

Nobody takes an oath to the President. They take an oath to the Constitution.

If a usurper is in the White House, the Military, the FBI, the Federal Marshals, and DHS are all bound by their oath to oust him.

Assuming this pans out, you may see a civil war erupt within the FedGov.

Now, assuming this pans out (which I doubt, but it makes for good theatre) then the Supremes will have to get involved. If Congress and the Supremes maintain that Obama is President even though he is not qualified, watch the streets carefully. It will be a riot.

mirage  posted on  2009-08-04   1:11:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nobody takes an oath to the President. They take an oath to the Constitution.

If a usurper is in the White House, the Military, the FBI, the Federal Marshals, and DHS are all bound by their oath to oust him.

Assuming this pans out, you may see a civil war erupt within the FedGov.

Now, assuming this pans out (which I doubt, but it makes for good theatre) then the Supremes will have to get involved. If Congress and the Supremes maintain that Obama is President even though he is not qualified, watch the streets carefully. It will be a riot.

For what it's worth...

strategyandwar.com/united...y_oath_of_enlistment.html

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

packrat1145  posted on  2009-08-14   18:42:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's like the three laws of robotics.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-08-15   0:44:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's like the three laws of robotics.

The difference being that, so far at least, no robot exists with the capability of living up to any one of those three laws; whereas man has the capability to live up to all three. The only exception would be Law #2 if a case were to arise in which two humans gave the subject human opposite orders; in which case the subject human would have to choose which one to follow, thereby breaking that law regardless of his choice.

And that, my friend is why the Framers of the Constitution added the criteria that one must be a natural born citizen to that document's requirements for the office of president.

That is, no man can faithfully serve two masters. Ergo, no president can be allowed to be put in the position of having to choose between the USA and some other nation. If a man has dual allegiance split between the USA and any other country, there is no way to know which he would choose in a situation wherein if he choose the wrong course of action, great harm could come to this country and/or its citizens.

Being a natural born citizen and the presumed allegiance that comes with that status adds a measure of protection for America that cannot be gained in any other manner. While it is not guaranteed, it has been used for centuries as a qualifier; and, for more than 200 years, it has worked satisfactorily for us; yet, it is a protection this country can never have as long as Obama is allowed to remain in office because he has dual allegiance due to the fact that his father was a citizen of Kenya, a foreigner who was never a US Citizen of any kind.

packrat1145  posted on  2009-08-15   22:39:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

good post. you might enjoy this very well done explanation~

OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS BRITISH CITIZEN AT BIRTH - AS SUCH OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF US (a clear explanation of the issue)

christine  posted on  2009-08-16   11:23:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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good post. you might enjoy this very well done explanation~

OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS BRITISH CITIZEN AT BIRTH - AS SUCH OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF US (a clear explanation of the issue)

Thanks for the kind words, Christine. I appreciate the link, too; and, have bookmarked it for future reference.

From that article:

"Don't be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues. They are irrelevant to Senator Obama's ineligibility to be President. Since Barack Obama's father was a Citizen of Kenya and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama's birth, then Senator Obama was a British Citizen "at birth", just like the Framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on US soil, he still wouldn't be eligible to be President."

That is all true.

However, while I agree the BC is irrelevant to Obama's eligibility, I think it would be a mistake to ignore that issue entirely.

There is no denying that, real or not, Obama's posted COLB will not make him a natural born citizen. Existent or not, an original long form BC will not either.

Still, IMO, legally proving the COLB to be a forgery would in turn prove that Obama is legally guilty of fraud; and that could well be the chink in his armor that might convince a court to take a closer look at what we know to be the greater fraud.

I think we need to go after Obama from every possible angle, leaving no stone unturned. We ought not to make things easy for him by limiting what we go after him on to just a few issues. We need to make him fight on every front possible.

Every million dollars he has to spend fighting the BC issue is a million he will not have to buy ACORN's help in getting relected in 2012.

I also have grave concerns that if Obama is allowed to remain in office even for the remainder of one full term that he will have so corrupted the system that he can't be defeated at the polls come 2012. If he's allowed a full eight years in office, I sincerely believe there will be no hope for America.

packrat1145  posted on  2009-08-16 13:34:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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