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Title: Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate
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Published: Aug 3, 2009
Author: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/08/bir
Post Date: 2009-08-03 22:20:07 by tom007
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Birthers Defend Obviously Fake Kenyan Obama Birth Certificate * 8/3/09 at 6:02 PM * Comment 8Comment 8Comments Over the weekend, the leaders of the Birther movement forged a Kenyan birth certificate that they claim proves that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, and therefore is not legally president. Even though this was rapidly debunked, even by supporters of the Birthers, leaders like Orly Taitz, the Zsa Zsa of the lunatic fringe of the right wing, have still taken to the airwaves to proclaim victory. Of course, they're getting an increasingly hostile reception. In this clip, watch as Taitz goes off against MSNBC hosts, calling them "offensive," linking their behavior to Hitler's paramilitary "brownshirts," and proclaiming that they "will not be on TV for too long." Watching this video, we realized that it's not just the famous Hungarian actress and socialite that Orly reminded us of. There's someone else close to our hearts to whom (at least vocally) she bears an uncanny resemblance. If only we could put our finger on it. Visit msnbc.com for Breaking News, World News, and News about the Economy
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#79. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#76)
Of course, you're fully prepared to prove that, right? Tell me how you're going to do it. I'd love to know. The fake Obama COLB has already been proven to be a fake.
Which "fake" are you talking about, and who "proved" it? Does the State of Hawaii know this?
Apparently you have me confused with someone who gives a shit what you think I should prove. Explain yourself more indept and I might know what the hell your talking about. WEAVER
Here ya go, here ya go
Factcheck disagrees with you. "Summary In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake." We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said. Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu." You can also go here to see that actual copy with seal, fold, and everything.
Who is this person, and what document is h/she referring to?
agreed, but don't we have to go back to who vetted (or didn't) him in the first place? my belief is that everyone knows and it doesn't matter because HE was the selection. we all know that the politicians pick and choose obeyance to the constitution for their own political expediency. this is just one more egregious slap in our faces. bush was candid when he declared that the constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper. that's what all these elites think. some government for, by, and of the people, huh?
the author's point is that it doesn't matter where barry himself was born. he is not a natural born citizen because his father was a British citizen at the time of barry's birth. that is what defines natural born so he is ineligible. It may not matter today where this man was born, but it will eventually. To the most obvious idiot, his father is a British citizen, any person in this government who excuses this little known fact, is a TRAITOR to America! If we remember their names, then we will know who to get rid of in the near future. It's a technicality; but, Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject. But I believe your underlying premise is that because Obama'a father was never a US citizen of any kind, Obama never was, is not now and never can be eligible to be president; and, that premise is 100% correct. Obama, Junior was also a Kenyan citizen until he reached age 20, according to Kenyan law; as is confirmed by his own website, fightthesmears.com via the following statement: Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.” Rergardless of the validity of the Obama COLB and contrary to Obama's claims at other times and places, he had to have been a Kenyan citizen at birth for that Kenyan law to apply. IOWs, how could his Kenyan citizenship expire if he was never a Kenyan citizen...
come back, back
Well no wonder his material has vanished. He's the Bobby Sherman of politics, politics.
Please Stay Focused America! Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject
bingo
Thank you christine! WEAVER
No, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land; and, as such, it is the controlling authority. Who did or did not vet him is irrelevent, as is the fact that he was elected. Whether or not anyone along the way dropped the ball; and, regardless of how many votes he got, no part of that process negates the Constitution. Nothing personal; but, neither does your belief. Yes, but they have done so in large degree because we allowed them to. Sadly, We The People have not been as vigilant as we should have been in paying attention to what has been happening; and, have allowed it to become the norm that our elected officials not only do not follow the Constitution, but to also not even understand the contents of that document. Indeed, far too few of us do, either. For the record, Bush may have thought that; but, there is no proof he ever said it. There is not even one shred of evidence that he did so except for third hand heresay. It was a rumor started by a leftist blogger who had no way to have any first hand knowledge of what was said in the meeting during which he claimed it was said. His claim was that someone in attendance at the meeting had told another person and that second party told him, the blogger. Like I said, third hand information with not a single one who supposedly repeated it (except the leftist blogger himself) ever being identified. I could prove that to you; but, it's not worth it to me now to worry about what Bush may have thought or said. I agree; and, I include Bush as being one of those elites, though I don't believe he was evil as some portray him to be and certainly not on the same scale as Obama and others who are hellbent on destroying America. IOWs, I see Bush as having been grossly misguided in a number of ways; but, he also did some very good things. Obama, OTOH, has done no good and will not because his intent is to weaken America to the extent that it can be easily defeated by the Muslin Brotherhood.
"Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject" bingo Thank you christine! BTW, The person you two are quoting says, "You're welcome..." ;-))
The fake Obama COLB has already been proven to be a fake. Which "fake" are you talking about, and who "proved" it? Does the State of Hawaii know this? IDon'tThinkSoGood, are you an idiot in real life or do you just play one on Freedom4um,com?
Sadly, We The People have not been as vigilant as we should have been in paying attention to what has been happening; and, have allowed it to become the norm that our elected officials not only do not follow the Constitution, but to also not even understand the contents of that document. Indeed, far too few of us do, either. absolutely. There is not even one shred of evidence that he did so except for third hand heresay. It was a rumor started by a leftist blogger who had no way to have any first hand knowledge of what was said in the meeting during which he claimed it was said. His claim was that someone in attendance at the meeting had told another person and that second party told him, the blogger. Like I said, third hand information with not a single one who supposedly repeated it (except the leftist blogger himself) ever being identified. I could prove that to you; but, it's not worth it to me now to worry about what Bush may have thought or said. oh? i wasn't aware of that.
I see you're as big an asshole here as you are at LP.
Honestly, packrat, by that token a newly elected sheriff may continue to hold office even though subsequently it becomes known that he has been convicted of a number of felonies that would have prevented him from running or taking office. I have no damned idea where this man was born or not born or what the citizenship was of whoever was screwing his mommy. Every day I care less and less. But let's be clear on this: You cannot profit from the fruits of a fraud or other crime. A fraudulently elected official cannot continue to hold office - sheriff or president - even if he is elected unanimously.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. It's a technicality; but, Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject Please Stay Focused America! Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject Fortunately, millions of Americans are focused. Unfortunately, the media is ignoring that fact. Fortunately, we have the Internet where we can learn the truth. Bottom line: We have the advantage, IF we use it properly. Start emailing the facts to everyone on your contact list and asking them to do the same. If only ten people email to ten friends and those ten pass it on to ten of their friends, that will result in one hundred people being exposed to the truth. If those one hundred do the same, that's a thousand people seeing the truth. If that is repeated through ten levels, the email will have been sent to billions of people. IOWs, long before the tenth level, many more than the total population of the USA will have had the opportunity to learn the truth. "Other than God Almighty Himself, there is no greater force on earth than the collective strength of a properly informed American citizenry." - - - JT Mims
It's a technicality; but, Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject Please Stay Focused America! Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject Fortunately, millions of Americans are focused. Unfortunately, the media is ignoring that fact. Fortunately, we have the Internet where we can learn the truth. I meant everty word when I said "stay focused America", I'm not talking about what the media is "ingnoring', we, those who are focucsed, we already know for a fact, they don't give damn, so why rehash old news? You're only right about one aspect, the internet! How refreshing! As if this is a new revenue... I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but please, for the multitudes of those who may be just awakening to what is unfolding in this country....keep it simple, don't polute your messeage with a lot of unnessessary garbage of no importance...just keep your message simple and the audience you seek will understand! WEAVER
BORN IN THE USA? Obama mama: 6 lost months
And yet he's your president? You 'randge', got exactly the leadership you deserver, unfortunutely, your sort of ignorance fits perfectly in some communistic country...exactly where you should be! WEAVER
There is not even one shred of evidence that he did so except for third hand heresay. It was a rumor started by a leftist blogger who had no way to have any first hand knowledge of what was said in the meeting during which he claimed it was said. His claim was that someone in attendance at the meeting had told another person and that second party told him, the blogger. Like I said, third hand information with not a single one who supposedly repeated it (except the leftist blogger himself) ever being identified. I could prove that to you; but, it's not worth it to me now to worry about what Bush may have thought or said. oh? i wasn't aware of that. Only because I believe you are a true seeker of truth... here is the orignal source for the rumor: Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act. Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell-shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal. GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. "I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander- in-Chief. Do it my way." "Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution." "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!" I've talked to three people who were either present for the meeting that day or had knowledge of what happened inside the meeting and they all says the President of the United States called the Constitution "a goddamned piece of paper." None, unfortunately, are willing to go on the record in a White House known for retribution against those who leak information. "...in a White House known for retribution against those who leak information..." Convenient red herring, no? Trouble is, even if that were a true statement, it can't replace the proof that Thompson fails to provide for his claim of what Bush supposedly said. Now... let's take a look at who apparently really is of the opinion, whether stated or not, that the Constitution is just a 'Goddamned piece of paper.' In the loony world of conspiracy theory nutcases, anything is possible and the most ludicrous of claims too often get passed off as fact. Case in point: The incredibly stupid debate over President Barack Obama's citizenship. Started by the right wing in a failed effort to prevent America from electing its first African-American President, the so-called "birthers" movement -- fueled by hatemongers, racists, bigots and the incurably stupid -- continues to spread discredited lies that Obama was born in Kenya or some other non-American locale. Our current President was born in Hawaii, an American territory that became our 50th state. Hawaii confirmed it and, for normal people with a working brain, that should have closed the case. But conspiracy nuts don't have functioning brains. They have out-of-control fantasies, fed by terminal insanity, driven by inane beliefs that anything that involves the government is a dark, X-Files conspiracy to destroy us all. I recently ordered a certified copy of my birth certificate from the state of Florida. They sent me a computer generated document that looks a lot like the one produced by Hawaii to confirm Obama's birth. I took that document to my local Social Security office and asked if that provides proof of birth and citizenship. Yes, they said. It does. But proof of birth will not satisfy the lunatic fringe when it comes to supporting the conspiracy du jour. They need to feed their lurid fantasies that Obama is a puppet of Saudi Arabia, a pawn of the mythical New World Order (otherwise known as NWO) or part of some Zionist conspiracy cooked up by anti- Semites to support their hate and bigotry. Sadly, the Internet -- which could function as a medium for spreading real, fact-based information -- is a hotbed for half-baked conspiracy theories, hate, racism and outright lies. Those who question Obama's birthrate will claim they are not racist, but many of them are. You find misinformation about his birth certificate on many white supremacy web sites but you will not find one credible shred of evidence that supports the birther movement on a site devoted to hard, cold facts. As an American, I have serious problems with some of Obama's policies. I feel he is pushing the country that I love too far to the left and spending this nation into irreversible debt. But I do not, for one second, doubt his birthright. He's an American. Anyone who buys into the claims of the birthers is a gullible fool. Is Thompson an honest journalist who really and truly believes in the Constitution himself? Or... is he just another leftist who will tell any lie to keep the liberal agenda alive and well? I'll let you decide; but, I can you one thing... as many times as his claim about Bush has been repeated, not one person has ever come forward to say, "I'm Doug Thompson's source. I was at that meeting and I personally heard George Bush say what Doug Thompson claimed." BTW, as I was finding all this once again (I used to have all this stuff bookmarked, but my HD crashed a couple of years ago), I remembered that at one time I had found where Thompson actually issued a retraction for his story about Bush. Shortly after that, he hid the link to that retraction and issued a statement saying he stood by the story... A few references can still be found to it by doing a search for "Bush on the Constitution" "Doug Thompson" +retraction; but I can't find an actual link to it now. But, let's forget for a moment what Thompson believes and even overlook his politics. Just how good is his judgement as far as choosing what sources to rely on for his claims? I'll even allow Thompson to answer that question for us... Here's what he himself says about a source he claims to have depended for a period of twenty years...
To paraphrase Popeye... "wherever I yam..." ;-))
The fake Obama COLB has already been proven to be a fake. Which "fake" are you talking about, and who "proved" it? Does the State of Hawaii know this? IDon'tThinkSoGood, are you an idiot in real life or do you just play one on Freedom4um,com? I see you're as big an asshole here as you are at LP. Oh, wait... now I get it! You're probably a little miffed because I didn't give you credit for playing an idiot both here and at LP! My apology for being so careless... ;-))
Whether or not anyone along the way dropped the ball; and, regardless of how many votes he got, no part of that process negates the Constitution. Nothing personal; but, neither does your belief. Honestly, packrat, by that token a newly elected sheriff may continue to hold office even though subsequently it becomes known that he has been convicted of a number of felonies that would have prevented him from running or taking office. Nope... I have no reason to doubt the honesty of your comment; but, that is the exact opposite of the meaning of my words. Please read my comment again. I refuse to believe that you really mean that. Because if you do, it can only mean that you either also do not care about what the Constitution says or you do not understand what it says relative to requirements for the office of president. I am clear on it. I said as much... Please re-read my comment.
ok. you've convinced me. Thompson failed to source. i'm glad to get this information. i'll not repeat that "rumor" again. Started by the right wing in a failed effort to prevent America from electing its first African-American President, the so-called "birthers" movement and that tells me all i need to know about Doug Thompson and his bias.
Thanks. Right. Surely, there's not a serious journalist in the country who doesn't know by now that Democrat Phil Berg is the one who first filed suit against Obama in the matter. If any Republican had ever mentioned the issue before that, I'm not aware of it.
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962). Couple of fine points: The Constitution comes first. The qualifier: "...according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. ..." According to the UCMJ it is a Courts Martial offense to obey an illegal order. So, this presents an interesting legal situation. If a servicemember believes that the President is illegally in office and is not legally the President then accepting an order therefrom is accepting an illegal order and a punishable, under the UCMJ, offense. As well since the Constitution of the United States is the Supreme Law of the Land one must make the decision when such a conflict arises as to which will be obeyed? Were I still in uniform I know what my decision would be. The Constitution comes first, and the usurper is not legally President and thus any order emanating from him is an illegal order. The question that the Officer Corps is morally, and by given oath, bound to resolve is do they have a duty to follow the orders of a President they believe to be falsely installed in office? Do they have the courage to actually defend the country against a domestic enemy when that enemy is, however falsely, infesting the highest office in the land? I read your above comment earlier; but, I don't think I ever got around to acknowledging it. I just wanted you to know I agree with you 100% on your synopsis. I will only add that what you have stated was the basis for Dr. Orly Taitz's Cook v. Obama et al.
It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should be allowed to profit from the fraud. If Obama is proven to be not a natural born American Citizen then he is not and never has been President but is instead a Usurper. The Oxford American Dictionary defines it thus: usurp verb - "take (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force." "Richard usurped the throne" OR (my own) Obama usurped the Presidency by fraud. There is no credible evidence in the public record showing that Oh'bummer was born in Hawaii. The Certificate of live birth does not count as it could be granted to someone born somewhere else such as Kenya - or like his sister, born in Indonesia, who also has a Certificate of Live Birth. Explain why someone who is innocent of the charge would spend in the vicinity of one million dollars to hide the evidence of their innocence. Very good post. However, if I may, I believe a couple of corrections are in order, as follows: Per, "It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should be allowed to profit from the fraud." I thionk you probably meant to say, "It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should NOT be allowed to profit from the fraud." Also, where you speak of a "Certificate of Live Birth;" it appears you are referring to the COLB Obama's minions posted on the Internet. As such, when spelled out, it would be a "Certification of Live Birth" rather than a Certificate.
My bad - I intended to say "Not" and didn't catch when proofreading my post. And yes to the second: COLB = Certificate of Live Birth. Short on time gotta run.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
It is an established legal principle that the person who has committed a fraud should be allowed to profit from the fraud. Well OK then. Maybe the word NOT was missing here? Thank you. I stand corrected. Yes, there should have been a "not" there but instead it is not there. Sorry, I did not see the above to know you had already been made aware of the missing "not." I had assumed that were you aware of it that you might have corrected it via that great little feature called "Edit." ;-)) Seriously, that's one thing that freedom4um and GOPachy.com has that I love and miss having at LP. By the way, I sure could use some help at GOPachy discussing the Obama eligibility issue if you ever have some extra time. There aren't a lot of those articles posted there; but, the ones that are are mostly found under the category called "The Fourth Estate."
You 'randge', got exactly the leadership you deserver, unfortunutely, your sort of ignorance fits perfectly in some communistic country...exactly where you should be! - WEAVER I refuse to believe that you really mean that. Because if you do, it can only mean that you either also do not care about what the Constitution says or you do not understand what it says relative to requirements for the office of president. - packrat1145 In truth, I care a lot. This character in the WH, I hate to even say his name, makes me ill. The whole situation with the penumbra under which his record is cloaked is a travesty. I'm so white hot, it's giving me migraines, and sometime I wish the entire matter would go away. But it won't. And anyone who propagates the ignorance that WEAVER shakes a stick at DOES deserve to live in a commie country. BTW, sorry I misinterpreted your stance, packrat. I shouldn't post when I'm physically exhausted. I've been following this discussion for over a year now, and I'm really frosted over the fractiousness of the debate. I put the blame squarely on 'Bama and his men. Their actions constitute a vicious and unconscienable assault on our constitutional order.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Short on time gotta run. No problem, I didn't realize you were already aware of it. Right... COLB = Certifi From http://www.flick r.com/photos/23580873@N05/3201196892/: Barack Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen regardless of the authenticity of this insufficient document. According to his own smears web-site, he was a British subject at time of Birth because of his father's citizenship. He admits this on his OWN web-site."
How many dozen times have I linked you to that pic and yet you still trot out the old picture to prove your case? Why are you intentionally bringing out old evidence instead of addressing the high quality evidence? **Edited for piece of shit outdated browsers.
Could you make that a little bigger please? I can't quite make it out.
All of a sudden dissent is no longer patriotic.
Upgrade to a real browser, it works fine in Firefox and Opera. You can check my html if you want.
I believe that when all is said and done, all three of us, and many more here and on other forums, are all on the same side. Hopefully, we can all resolve our personal differences over details. BTW, speaking of details, I made the following statement in an earlier comment to WEAVER... ...however, after a little thought, I realize that WEAVER was correct in his statement that Obama was a British citizen. While I, too, was right in saying Obama was a Kenyan citizen and a "British subject," it appears that Obama was also accorded British citizenship via The British Nationality Act of 1948. My point is that we are all different and sometimes see details differently. Sometimes we can be completely wrong on certain details; yet, be dead on in the greater scheme of things. Other times not entirely wrong; but, still slightly out of kilter; as I was in the above instance. The most important thing to know is that Obama is a danger to America and we must somehow make sure he is removed ASAP; and, I believe we three can agree on that.
**Edited for piece of shit outdated browsers. You conveniently forgot to mention that the "old evidence" came from the same source your "new evidence" does; and, that it was brought out because after they brought out the "old evidence" people were immediately able to see obvious discrepencies in that "evidence." This new evidence you so gullibly keep trotting out is just another fake they hope will make up for the mistakes they made in the original. Unfortunately for them, it only serves to prove the fakeness of them both.
Got any expert to show show these are fake? Or are you just pulling that out of your ass. Because it Obama showed fake documents, thats probably impeachable. Lets see it. An MS paint image circle things like assuming they called black people negros doesn't cut it. One expert please, just one. If you can produce a legit expert, with real credentials I'll never challenge you on birth bullshit again.
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#80. To: packrat1145 (#79)
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The fake Obama COLB has already been proven to be a fake.
#81. To: buckeroo (#78)
You only have one problem in life. Prove your allegations. So far all you have dome is point a finger at everyone but yourself.
#82. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#80)
#83. To: Tony Two Times (#82)
#84. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#83)
The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu."
#85. To: packrat1145 (#75)
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#86. To: WEAVER, christine, Prefrontal Vortex, mirage, buckeroo, tom007, rack42, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Shoonra, Sam Houston, Hayek Fan, PaulCJ, farmfriend, IDon'tThinkSo, Tony Two Times (#77)
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
#87. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#83)
Who is this person, and what document is h/she referring to?
#88. To: packrat1145 (#86)
Rergardless of the validity of the Obama COLB and contrary to Obama's claims at other times and places, he had to have been a Kenyan citizen at birth for that Kenyan law to apply.
#89. To: packrat1145 (#86)
It's a technicality; but, Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject
#90. To: WEAVER (#89)
Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject
#91. To: christine (#90)
#92. To: christine (#85)
agreed, but don't we have to go back to who vetted (or didn't) him in the first place? my belief is that everyone knows and it doesn't matter because HE was the selection.
we all know that the politicians pick and choose obeyance to the constitution for their own political expediency. this is just one more egregious slap in our faces.
bush was candid when he declared that the constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.
that's what all these elites think.
#93. To: WEAVER, christine (#91)
#94. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#80)
#95. To: packrat1145 (#92)
Yes, but they have done so in large degree because we allowed them to.
#96. To: packrat1145 (#94)
#97. To: packrat1145 (#92)
Whether or not anyone along the way dropped the ball; and, regardless of how many votes he got, no part of that process negates the Constitution. Nothing personal; but, neither does your belief.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#98. To: WEAVER (#89)
#99. To: packrat1145 (#98)
#100. To: packrat1145 (#98)
No documented record of whereabouts, activity leading up to baby's birth in '61
#101. To: randge (#97)
I have no damned idea where this man was born or not born or what the citizenship was of whoever was screwing his mommy. Every day I care less and less.
#102. To: christine (#95)
bush was candid when he declared that the constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.
By Doug thompson
By Doug thompson
#103. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#96)
I see you're as big an asshole here as you are at LP.
#104. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#96)
#105. To: randge (#97)
I have no damned idea where this man was born or not born or what the citizenship was of whoever was screwing his mommy. Every day I care less and less.
But let's be clear on this: You cannot profit from the fruits of a fraud or other crime. A fraudulently elected official cannot continue to hold office - sheriff or president - even if he is elected unanimously.
#106. To: packrat1145 (#102)
#107. To: christine (#106)
ok. you've convinced me. Thompson failed to source. i'm glad to get this information. i'll not repeat that "rumor" again.
Started by the right wing in a failed effort to prevent America from electing its first African-American President, the so-called "birthers" movement
and that tells me all i need to know about Doug Thompson and his bias.
#108. To: Original_Intent, Prefrontal Vortex, mirage, buckeroo, tom007, Prefrontal Vortex, rack42, TwentyTwelve, Shoonra, Sam Houston, christine, Hayek Fan, PaulCJ, farmfriend (#47)
#109. To: Original_Intent (#7)
"Obama was born in Hawaii, the proof is there." Does it matter? The guy is a sitting president.
#110. To: packrat1145 (#109)
#111. To: Original_Intent (#31)
#112. To: WEAVER, packrat1145 (#105)
Every day I care less and less.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#113. To: Original_Intent (#110)
My bad - I intended to say "Not" and didn't catch when proofreading my post.
And yes to the second: COLB = Certificate of Live Birth.
catecation of Live Birth. ;-)) 
"This is a copy of Barack H. Obama's Certification of Live Birth that he released through his web-site. It is clear to any person with reasonable intelligence that there are many glaring problems with this document. Furthermore, any educated person, who is willing to do a certain amount of research will soon realize that a Certification of Live Birth is not quite the same as a Certificate of Live Birth. The former is a short-form for the latter. The latter includes much more information such as the name/sig of delivery physician.
#114. To: packrat1145 (#113)
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#115. To: Rhino369 (#114)
#116. To: 4 givan 1 (#115)
Could you make that a little bigger please? I can't quite make it out.
#117. To: randge, WEAVER (#112)
"It's a technicality; but, Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen and a British subject. But I believe your underlying premise is that because Obama'a father was never a US citizen of any kind, Obama never was, is not now and never can be eligible to be president; and, that premise is 100% correct."
#118. To: Rhino369 (#114)
How many dozen times have I linked you to that pic and yet you still trot out the old picture to prove your case? Why are you intentionally bringing out old evidence instead of addressing the high quality evidence?
#119. To: packrat1145 (#118)
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