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Title: Black Intellectuals Decry White House 'Beer Summit'; Say Notion of a Post-Racial America is a Myth
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Wilmington Journal
URL Source: http://www.wilmingtonjournal.com/Ne ... article.asp?NewsID=19364&sID=3
Published: Aug 4, 2009
Author: Zenitha Prince
Post Date: 2009-08-05 12:12:00 by Prefrontal Vortex
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Comments: 26
by Zenitha Prince CHICAGO (NNPA) – Despite the overwhelming election of President Barack Obama, the inherent prejudice against people of color remains alive and well in American society, said a panel of Black intellectuals, critics and activists last week. ''This whole notion of a post-racial society is ridiculous, we need to stop saying it, we need to stop even talking about it,'' said BET's Jeff Johnson. ''Let's be honest about the fact that many of us from all races are racist…. We've lied about progress.'' The statement was part of an assessment of the ''State of Black America,'' an annual conversation held at the yearly convention of the National Urban League, which produces a report of the same name. Johnson's statement emerged out of a conversation that revolved around – you guessed it – beer. Even here at the Urban League, the media's binge on the Thursday tête-à-tête between President Barack Obama, Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates and Cambridge, Mass. Police Sgt. James Crowley to discuss the officer's arrest of Gates in his own home and the president's resulting criticism continued. But unlike some in the media who saw the meeting as a significant step forward in resolving the issue of racial profiling and the underlying prejudice, many on the panel thought it was a mostly empty gesture. ''It is a significant brouhaha [but] I'm not sure it gets to what 'ales' (ails) us,'' commented Georgetown University professor Michael Eric Dyson. ''The real problem is still on the streets where disproportionate numbers of Black and Latino men and women are subjected to arbitrary forms of police power.'' Johnson agreed in even starker terms. ''I'm offended by the discussion at the White House,'' the political commentator said, ''because if they were serious about solving this problem, Gates would be there, Crowley would be there, but so would Tyrone and Shaniqua and other young people who have dealt with this kind of psychosis from the police; they are not represented in this conversation.'' Asked by moderator, CNN special correspondent Soledad O'Brien, about Sgt. Crowley's questioning of Gates' anger at being asked to produce several IDs and the professor's lack of gratitude for the officer's presence, MSNBC political analyst Michelle Bernard said she hoped the White House talk would foster better understanding. ''I think the most important thing that has to come out of this meeting today is an understanding of where each person is coming from—that's what's missing from the debate,'' she said. ''I don't think other races have a fundamental understanding of why we feel the way we do [about police].'' She continued, ''[But] if we're going to talk about a quote unquote 'post-racial America' – I still don't understand what that means – it's not just talking about history, it's talking about what it is that people feel when a White man shows up at your door and you've worked very hard to get where you are and they say, 'Show me your ID.''' Where Gates was coming from is a history of Black men like Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo, who have been shot and killed by police, and longtime criminal policies that disproportionately target Black and Hispanics, several on the panel said. And those structural inequities would not be addressed by looking only at individual cases like Gates'. ''We're looking at a macro problem through micro lens,'' said Schott Foundation President John Jackson, who said the larger problem was the law enforcement environment created by former President Ronald Reagan. ''In 1980, the Reagan administration institutionalized new criminal justice policies [and] you began to see a 70 degree spike in the number of incarcerations for Black males,'' Jackson said. ''So we can't have this conversation without talking about the systemic policies and practices. And you're not going to solve that macro challenge by just tipping back a few beers at the White House.'' Johnson said solving that overarching problem of deep-seated racism is something that has to happen on a personal level, he's more concerned about acts of discrimination within government agencies. ''I don't care if you're racist or not…I am concerned with the way you do your job,'' he said. Calling for the federal government to withhold funding from police departments that practice racial profiling and for the empowerment of citizen review boards to conduct reviews of police behavior, Johnson said it will take the coordinated effort of community organizations to push for those changes. ''If we're going to be serious, it is not President Obama's job. It is the job of organizations like the National Urban League [and] the NAACP,'' he said. ''There are roles each of us has to play. But we are playing checkers instead of playing chess. And so the movement is, 'well, I want my organization to get to the end and king me.' And we're just sliding across the board as kings and not really making any impact.'' Stephanie J. Jones, executive director of the National Urban League Policy Institute and editor-in-chief of the ''State of Black America Report'' agreed that such a collective approach is necessary to solving the myriad issues that plague the Black community. In response to a query about the ''main'' issue facing African Americans, Jones said there is none because ''so many of these issues (criminal justice, education, economic power and health) are interrelated.'' She added, ''All of these things have to be dealt with in a comprehensive way and that's why it feels overwhelming.'' Citing her experience with low-income mothers in Washington, D.C., Bernard said she believes education is the main concern. ''I believe education is the great equalizer and that's something we should be beating the streets for and demanding,'' she said. There were some who disagreed with Bernard's postulation that a good education would automatically bring parity to African-American communities. Princeton University professor Melissa Harris-Lacewell said the idea mirrored comedian and actor, Bill Cosby's theory that ''if we would all just be sufficiently respectable – pull up your pants, stop listening to hip-hop, name your kid Tina instead of Tanisha, whatever … you can attain equality.'' She said, ''If nothing else, the Gates' arrest proves the lie that is the Cosby thesis. Education does not save in that moment.'' Dyson mirrored Harris-Lacewell's concern that Blacks have to be ''super citizens'' in order to be accepted in American society, saying Gates' case proved that such effort does not change the basic facts. ''Don't buy the fallacy that your education and your pedigree – whether you're at Harvard or the White House – exempt you from being treated like a n-gg-r,'' he said, eliciting cheers. ''High-, middle-class and educated elites must never think that they're not implicated [in discriminatory acts] against Taniqua and Shaniqua and Mohammed because on the wrong day, that could be your Black a-s too.'' Saying progress lies in the election by communities of politicians that represent their interests, Dyson added that Blacks also need to hold those lawmakers responsible – beginning with President Obama. ''I'm a lover of that brother … but you've got to call him on the stuff he's not doing right,'' Dyson said, pointing to what he saw as Obama's unnecessary ''non-apology apology'' for his criticism of Gates' arrest. ''You shouldn't expect more from the president of the United States because he's Black, but you [darn] sure should not expect less of him.''
Black Intellectuals Decry White House 'Beer Summit'; Say Notion of a Post-Racial America is a Myth
Special to the NNPA from the Afro-American Newspapers
Originally posted 8/4/2009
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#1. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#0)
So many jobs at stake, so many careers built upon perpetuating racial strife...
_________________________________________________________________________ Oh really, Dyson? I call BS on your lies. The racist and Communist next SCOTUS judge Sotemayor claims that because she is a hispanic and female, that she is MORE qualified to make better decisions than whitey which actually reveals the genuine way darks feel about themselves and whitey. Darks good. Whitey bad. Yet virtually no blacks voted for McCain (racists) and half the whites voted for the obamunist. Now tell me again exactly which race has made the most gains against racism? It's certainly not browns and blacks. The facts prove (institutionalized reverse discrimination against whites, unreported hate crimes or denial of racial motive for crime against whites) are the real entrenched racists whilst claiming victim status to perpetuate their delusions of cultural and racial perfection. HYPOCRISY ALERT.
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Why do you care if blacks or Mexicans like you? Sotemayor claims that because she is a meskin and female, that she is MORE qualified to make better decisions than whitey Well she's right. Other things being equal, her decisions will tend to please them more. At least in the short term. The question being begged by practically everyone is "What is better?" We have our own ideas about that, they have theirs, and we are all entitled to them. Philosophically at least. But hey, though she says she might make a better decision, and is aware of her group interests, she ain't moving to Puerto Rico any time soon, is she? Her fundamental problem is that she thinks she can have her cake and eat it too. But it don't work like that, because race is real and fundamental. On the other side, whites also think they can have their cake and eat it too, that they can ignore the racial composition of society and enjoy authentic ethnic restaurants, cheap labor, and exotic concubines without deterioration in general freedom, rule of law, public safety and frequency of potholes. You tell me which group is more retarded.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
Which group is more "retarded?" Whites - due to their tendency for cultural self- destruction. Which group is more racist? I already answered that one.
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So why do you care whether blacks or Mexicans like you? Are you afraid of them? Or is it that you like them and thus feel a little jilted?
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
Why do you insert a question that implies something I never said? Why do you try to place words in my mouth? Furthermore, why do you offer the fallacious logic of only two choices? Your question is irrelevant.
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I don't know if "most" is accurate or an overstatement. But stirring up contentions and encouraging quarrels between races, nationalities, socioeconomic groups, etc. does serve to undermine any united direct action against the globalist / zionist overlords. "I think it's really silly to hate somebody because of the color of their skin, because if you really took the time to get to know them, you could find so many better reasons to hate them." -- Dennis Miller
I'm sorry if I interpreted your post incorrectly but this juxtaposition: The racist and Communist next SCOTUS judge Sotemayor Implies to me that "racism" is a bad thing. That is, if one thinks communism is a bad thing. So I'll back it up a step. Why do you care if she's racist?
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
Wrong. Every other race already works consciously for its own interests, always has, and always will. Buried in there is the idea of a state of affairs that never existed and never will exist, races working altogether harmoniously to overthrow the elite. What the "globalist / zionist" overlords want to prevent is WHITES working consciously for WHITE interests.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
Until every white mans' daughter becomes knocked-up by a nigger, racism exists throughout the world. America is going nicely down that road, Europe is even further along, it only remains to see how white Russian daughters will be conquered by the lesser races. _________________________________________________________________________ Indeed. Let us hear no more talk of and read no more books about "racist, Marxist Israel."
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
Why do you insert a question that implies something I never said? Why do you try to place words in my mouth? Furthermore, why do you offer the fallacious logic of only two choices? Your question is irrelevant. Bingo, and well said. Because some people are xenophobic does require others to be xenophobic. PFV is an agitator who is hung up, obsessed, with looking at all things through a racial prism. I see one of two possibilities: 1. Obsessive. 2. Government Plant to create an aura of racism on 4um that does not exist.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
I was wondering when our "indifferent" "friend" would chime in.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
On the contrary, it was a completely logical inference from his post. Either I misunderstood it, Indie misspoke himself, or he still has a little ways to go in his deprogramming.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
What I am, OI, is a white advocate. You just don't like what I'm advocating for. That's not intrinsically bad of you, but I do prefer honesty.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
Oxymoron.
wow. That child looks adopted. hmmmm.
"This is suspicious at best. Sounds like a bunch of nutty conspiracy theorists, or, as others have pointed out, a government program to find nutty conspiracy theorists who could be dangerous."
What the "globalist / zionist" overlords want to prevent is WHITES working consciously for WHITE interests. Wrong. You're entitled to your opinion. Every other race already works consciously for its own interests, always has, and always will. In some instances yes. But only when they have an accurate understanding of what their best interests are. Most often they're dumbed down, overmedicated emotionally-led sheeple who serve the globalist / zionist agenda without even the capacity to give it a critical thought. Buried in there is the idea of a state of affairs that never existed and never will exist, races working altogether harmoniously to overthrow the elite. That's exactly what a globalist / zionist would have potential free thinkers believe. As a microcosm, look at the anatomy of a few prison riots. When the cons work en mass, the guards don't stand a chance ..... the big guns on the outside still eventually carry the day though. What the "globalist / zionist" overlords want to prevent is WHITES working consciously for WHITE interests. The best interest of humanity as a whole is to exterminate globalism. With all due respect, sir, it ain't just a WHITE thing.
Thank you for saying so. That's a big improvement over "xenophobic". ;) That's exactly what a globalist / zionist would have potential free thinkers believe. As a microcosm, look at the anatomy of a few prison riots. When the cons work en mass, the guards don't stand a chance ..... the big guns on the outside still eventually carry the day though. Oh, nice integrated tea and biscuit affairs are they? LONG before the riot happens EVERYONE is organized along racial lines. The best interest of humanity as a whole is to exterminate globalism Well, I sure think so. With all due respect, sir, it ain't just a WHITE thing. With all due respect, they don't have ANYTHING to do with each other. We're not in prison. And the globalists don't fear non-whites -- which is a separate thing from whether they should. They're primarily oriented against whites. Whites don't actually NEED non-whites to gain their freedom. But it MAY be easier. And THEY don't need US. But it MAY be easier if we help them. Why do you assume white supremacy? The "prison riot" will happen REGARDLESS of whether WHITES are consciously organized. The ONLY question is whether there will be any WHITES left AFTERWARDS.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
For one very good reason: European history is replete with examples of Jews losing out to the surrounding culture. Europe is the one place that Jews almost lost their football in the game. As a result, any group that promotes white/European interests in the US MUST be branded as racist. There would be no Black political power structure in America without Jews. An uncomfortable fact for many blacks and whites to even consider.
Whites will always exist. No subrace of human has ever been exterminated.
Pssssh...I don't know about you but I love my post-racial president. He's plays golf and drinks beer, what could be more Western than that?? ((((ducks to avoid stones)))) ;-)
_________________________________________________________________________ I could quibble with that, but I'll grant the point, noting only that it depends on what you call a race or subrace. American Indians, genetically, still exist, but whatever they might have created, without the genocide and dispossession visited upon them, is forever lost. The crime of genocide does not require literal, complete, genetic extinction.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
Neanderthals. There is emerging evidence that they were exterminated by modern homo sapiens.
_________________________________________________________________________ Oh, nice integrated tea and biscuit affairs are they? LONG before the riot happens EVERYONE is organized along racial lines. No doubt. But they temporarily rose above these distinctions for what they perceived to be their common agenda. We're not in prison. Which is good. Those who are in direct control of the "big guns" cannot be 100% relied upon by the supporters of globalism. They're primarily oriented against whites. That is why no assistance should be summarily rejected. If someone chooses to fight globalism and is able to bring along a squadron of Warthogs and F-16's, their melanin content is of less interest to me than is their Patriotism. Exterminating globalism is the only way true self determination will be realized. Once that occurs, the cream will rise to the top.
First things first.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
''This whole notion of a post-racial society is ridiculous, we need to stop saying it, we need to stop even talking about it,'' said BET's Jeff Johnson. ''Let's be honest about the fact that many of us from all races are racist…. We've lied about progress.''
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#2. To: Prefrontal Vortex, christine, jethro tull, original_intent, james deffecnbach, disgusted (#0)
(Edited)
''You shouldn't expect more from the president of the United States because he's Black
#3. To: IndieTX (#2)
#4. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#3)
#5. To: IndieTX (#4)
#6. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#5)
So why do you care whether blacks or Mexicans like you?
#7. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#0)
Let's be honest about the fact that many of us from all races are racist
#8. To: IndieTX (#6)
#9. To: Buzzard (#7)
But stirring up contentions and encouraging quarrels between races, nationalities, socioeconomic groups, etc. does serve to undermine any united direct action against the globalist / zionist overlords.
#10. To: IndieTX, Buzzard, Prefrontal Vortex (#4)
Which group is more "retarded?" Whites - due to their tendency for cultural self- destruction.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#11. To: X-15 (#10)
#12. To: IndieTX, Prefrontal Vortex, christine (#6)
So why do you care whether blacks or Mexicans like you?
#13. To: Original_Intent (#12)
#14. To: Original_Intent, IndieTX, christine (#12)
Bingo, and well said.
#15. To: Original_Intent, IndieTX, christine (#12)
PFV is an agitator who is hung up, obsessed, with looking at all things through a racial prism.
#16. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#0)
(Edited)
Black intellectuals.
There's no place better thanTurtle Island.
#17. To: X-15 (#10)
#18. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#9)
Wrong. Every other race already works consciously for its own interests, always has, and always will. Buried in there is the idea of a state of affairs that never existed and never will exist, races working altogether harmoniously to overthrow the elite.
#19. To: Buzzard (#18)
You're entitled to your opinion.
#20. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#9)
What the "globalist / zionist" overlords want to prevent is WHITES working consciously for WHITE interests.
#21. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#19)
The ONLY question is whether there will be any WHITES left AFTERWARDS.
#22. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#19)
Oh, nice integrated tea and biscuit affairs are they? LONG before the riot happens EVERYONE is organized along racial lines.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#23. To: bluegrass (#21)
No subrace of human has ever been exterminated.
#24. To: Prefrontal Vortex, bluegrass (#23)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#25. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#19)
#26. To: Buzzard (#25)
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