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Title: Health Care Town Hall Turns Violent in Tampa
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200 ... town-hall-turns-violent-tampa/
Published: Aug 7, 2009
Author: FOXNews.com
Post Date: 2009-08-07 08:09:46 by gengis gandhi
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Health Care Town Hall Turns Violent in Tampa A town hall meeting to discuss President Obama's health care reform descended into shouting and violence in a Tampa, Fla., suburb Thursday as angry opponents clashed with event organizers. FOXNews.com Friday, August 07, 2009 3 x in order to recommend a story, you must login or register. 90 Comments | Add Comment ShareThis * Photos Town hall scuffle Amateur video captures two men in an altercation as a crowd shouts "You work for us!" and "Hear our voice!" at the entrance to a health care town hall meeting in Ybor City, Fla. PEOPLE WHO READ THIS ALSO READ * White House Vows to Defend Democrats on Health Reform, Will 'Punch Back Twice as Hard' 27002950 * Couple Seeks New Home for Statue of Soldier After Town Says 'No Thanks' 27000942 * Man Offers 40 Goats, 20 Cows for Chelsea Clinton's Hand in Marriage 27001964 * U.S., Pakistan Investigate Reports of Taliban Chief's Death 26997364 * U.S. Reporters Entered N. Korea, Sister Says 27002314 Recommendations by Loomia A town hall meeting to discuss President Obama's health care reform descended into shouting and violence in a Tampa, Fla., suburb Thursday as angry opponents clashed with event organizers. Close to 1,500 people came to Ybor City to attend the town hall-style meeting on health care and insurance reform featuring Democratic State Rep. Bette Reed and U.S. Rep. Kathy Castor before the event exploded into a near riot. According to local media reports, the larger-than-expected crowd gathered outside the Hillsborough County Children's Board building where several hundred people, mostly in opposition to government health care, began to loudly chant and scuffle with organizers posted at doorways after the auditorium filled to capacity. A freelance videographer was roughed up in an altercation, which damaged his camera equipment and glasses, and at least one man was treated for minor injuries after a scuffle left his shirt partially torn from his body. "That's the most violent anyone has been towards me," Mark Bishop told WTSP-TV. "It was surprising to say the least." Video shot outside the auditorium showed several people holding signs and posters while banging on doors and windows, while others argued face-to-face and were seen screaming at one another in the parking lot as police looked on. Inside, democratic lawmakers had a difficult time delivering their opening remarks as they were met with shouts of "You work for us!'' "Tyranny! tyranny! tyranny!'' and "Read the bill!" the Tampa Tribune reported. As tensions rose further, Rep. Castor was escorted out of the town hall by police after Reed encouraged her to leave. "They're hiding from their constituents. She works for us and needs to listen,'' Karen Jaroch, a homemaker and organizer for the 9-12 Project told the Tribune. "We said all along our role was to come and give an update on the bill in Congress. That's what Betty Reed asked us to do ... and that's what we did," Castor spokeswoman Ellen Gedalius was quoted as saying. Opponents said liberal organizers had attempted to allow early admission to those who were seen as favorable to health care plans making their way through Congress, but Reed denied the accusations, saying those brought in were organizers helping to set up the town hall. "I represent a number of people who ask questions about what's going on with health care, so I thought it would be good to put on a meeting and have the congresswoman come in and give an update," Reed told the Tribune. "When you get to the point of possible violence, you've gone over the edge." Top White House officials counseled Democratic senators Thursday on coping with disruptions at public events on health care this summer, officials said, and promised the party and allies would respond with twice the force if any individual lawmaker is criticized in television advertising. In the week since the House began its break, several town hall-style meetings have been disrupted by noisy demonstrators. These episodes have drawn widespread media attention, and Republicans have seized on them as well as polls showing a decline in support for President Obama and his agenda as evidence that public support is lacking for his signature legislation. About 20 protesters gathered in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., Thursday to let Democratic Rep. Scott Murphy know they oppose the health care plans in Washington. They carried signs saying: "Obamacare Seniors beware! Rationing is here," and "If socialized medicine is best ... why didn't Ted Kennedy go to Canada?" Motorists honked as they drove by. So far, three House committees have approved health care legislation, and a measure is expected on the floor this fall. One committee has acted, and a bipartisan group of senators on the Finance Committee has been at work for weeks trying to draft a compromise plan. Additional reporting and video at MyFoxTampa.com
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#1. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
WTF?
Nothing to see here, Loddy. Move along. DON'T MAKE ME TAZE YOU, BRO!!!!!
Summer 'recess' is not going all that well for the whores in deecee.
Rest assured, when they come back all bright-eyed & bushy-tailed, they're really gonna lash out at our audacity to criticise (frighten) them.
Create a health care system based on the single payer system run by the feds. BUT, in order to qualify, you must do one of the following for life time enrollment: - 2 years military service in the war of your choice
PLEASE dont lump in firefighters and EMS with pigs! Especially the volunteers! JBTs they are not. They actually save lives. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. -Sun Tzu
That ain't violence. Its minor irritation. When things get violent, they will know it. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. -Sun Tzu
Looking at how our congressional dumps are handling these town halls (not) indicates how very out of touch they are. Now, with O is promising to unleash his ACORN/Labor flying monkeys to intimidate us at meetings, I have to say this is all shaping up very much to my liking :P
I didnt know he was doing that. But if he does, and they do intimidate anyone at these meetings, I just might have to become more civic minded and attend them myself. Intimidation leads to either submission or violence, and it's violence they will get. People aren't there protesting because they are submissive. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. -Sun Tzu
Jethro... Scanning the "important" NEWS,one finds buried far far down the list...five more Marines die in Afghan... The stock market goes up, we are going great....no one seems to be interested in ending the war in Afghan than they did in Iraq. Five more young Americans dead. I dont care how or why they were there, they were still young Americans. People write them off with the stroke of a pen.
Hey, Congressman!! How about we stop spending $Trillions bombing and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq AND cut off ALL foreign aid and spend that money on healthcare for Americans????
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
But we can do both!!!! And what good is socialized health care for AmeriKans if the government of Afghanistan won't allow their women to wear nipple rings and watch the View?
Patriot Act pt.two?
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
When peoples voice are silenced and they are forced to except what they do not want there seems to be but one option left. They can turn it into whatever they wish and refuse to listen but it will only be to their detriment.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Lod Place blacks in charge and envision what would happen. Ir would not be nice.
Yeah, welcome to amerika!
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
I feel as though we're sitting on a powder-keg just awaiting the right spark.
Patience. If not applied by an independent source, it will come from an organized entity.
I agree! I don't think anyone really wants it but they have pushed us towards it and that's either the plan, or they are too educated to realize the truth and results of their tactics.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
midnight basketball coach 2 years as a English to Ebonics translator at your local DMV. You're killing me!
"America without her freedoms, is like a body without a soul" - Adam Kokesh
I agree! I don't think anyone really wants it ... But they do - that is one of the problems. Cyni was right in his comment that the spark will be supplied whether by somebody going off or by some Black Ops group pretending to be some group starting it off. The NWO/Banksters/Psychs have been planning for that moment and that is what all the "non-lethal" weapons and Police Goon Squads are for. It provides the pretext for establishing their totalitarian system openly. We have to both work against them and prevent the hot heads from taking the bait.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
I don't know what 'they're' thinking or planning, but I do know that there is more anger toward wall st. and deecee than 'they' can ever imagine. As well as toward our local taxing entities who seemingly cannot extract enough money from us. Were our country a computer, I'd say that a hard re-boot is in order.
midnight basketball coach 2 years as a English to Ebonics translator at your local DMV. You're killing me! Old Lady: "Excuse me young lady but I speak Jive."
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
We are on a computer. The Pentagram has a "modeling" program in which they wish to place a simalcrum of EVERY intelligent being on this planet, and Duhbya too. "All the better to control you with my dear."
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
"America without her freedoms, is like a body without a soul" - Adam Kokesh
The NWO/Banksters/Psychs have been planning for that moment and that is what all the "non-lethal" weapons and Police Goon Squads are for. It provides the pretext for establishing their totalitarian system openly. We have to both work against them and prevent the hot heads from taking the bait. I understand your point. Tis a fine line. Whoever begins this we must stand together imo. It won't matter who starts the ball the rest will lose everything else from that point on like tumbling dice. I agree stable minds should prevail however it is very hard to control some hot heads. As far as the non lethal weapons the cops have. I do believe there are enough of us to overwhelm them in a short order. In a conflict we will be able to obtain the same devices they have, one at a time. It's what comes next that I ponder.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Yup, I'd say so!
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Good one!LOL.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
I suspect the scenario they have in mind goes something like: Mass liquidation via aerosol sprays to seed a succession of "plagues". The top psychotics will go into underground bunkers and set it out as 3/4 or more of the world's population dies of disease and starvation. Then they'll come out of their hidey holes with troops that have been kept protected under ground. Then in the name of "restoring order" they'll set up their little slave states with the top ten thousand taking on titles of "nobility" - or so their sick fantasies likely go. Read the late Jim Keith's work on underground tunnels and bases. They've got them secreted all over the country. The hyper-wealthy have probably constructed their own private shelters.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
LOL! Thank you.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
They're not truly free until they can watch Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry Jer-ry...
The NWO/Banksters/Psychs have been planning for that moment and that is what all the "non-lethal" weapons and Police Goon Squads are for. It provides the pretext for establishing their totalitarian system openly. We have to both work against them and prevent the hot heads from taking the bait. Good point. There is a two step approach everyone should follow: 1. Record video! 2. See step one. Video cameras are the muskets of the modern revolution. They can kill the bad guys more effectively than any other tool.
Well put. Without YouTube & the 'net the MSM would
have the nation believing Obama's health care scheme is being embraced with
open arms. He can't sell this puppy and the deeper it goes into the Fall, the
less likely this pig of his will fly. Love it!
I hope all this commotion helps out Rand Paul, Peter Schiff, and other liberty minded candidates currently running for the upcoming 2010 elections.
- 2 years military service in the war of your choice - 5 years active volunteer firefighter, ems, police volunteer Taser recharger - 7 years active volunteer service urban schools, hospitals, neighborhood watch. midnight basketball coach - 2 years as a English to Ebonics translator at your local DMV. - to help President Obama in his effort to build a well trained, well funded civilian security force. Bwaaahaa! It almost sounds kinda...Exciting. (would we receive a personalized, "Thank you Comrade" letter from Mein 0bama?)
How about we stop spending $Trillions bombing and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq AND cut off ALL foreign aid and spend that money on healthcare for Americans???? But if they did that, you and I wouldn't really be "safe," anymore, would we? After all, the Taliban Spc Ops would then be unfettered to create an 11/9, 3/7, or 2/28 - but only just as soon as the Opium crop cashes out and they can pay for another 19 plane tickets and pilot lessons under the nose of the FBI and CIA. As to Iraq, we're not quite done "Nation Building," are we? We haven't even built them a Muslim Disney World yet. In the meantime take two Bayer, slap on a band-aid, and STFU. THAT'll be the extent of 0bamaCare.
Top White House officials counseled Democratic senators Thursday on coping with disruptions at public events on health care this summer, officials said, and promised the party and allies would respond with twice the force if any individual lawmaker is criticized in television advertising.
#2. To: Lod (#1)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#3. To: All (#1)
#4. To: Lod (#3)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#5. To: Esso, Lod (#4)
- 5 years active volunteer firefighter, ems, police volunteer Taser recharger
- 7 years active volunteer service urban schools, hospitals, neighborhood watch. midnight basketball coach
- 2 years as a English to Ebonics translator at your local DMV.
- to help President Obama in his effort to build a well trained, well funded civilian security force.
#6. To: Jethro Tull, all (#5)
- 5 years active volunteer firefighter, ems, police volunteer Taser recharger
#7. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
#8. To: PSUSA (#7)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Now, with O is promising to unleash his ACORN/Labor flying monkeys to intimidate us at meetings, I have to say this is all shaping up very much to my liking :P
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#11. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull, christine, Original Intent, lodwick, Esso (#10)
I would love to yell this or hear it yelled at one of these pro-socialist Congressman town hall throwdowns:
#12. To: wbales (#11)
#13. To: Cynicom. all (#10)
#14. To: Esso (#4)
Rest assured, when they come back all bright-eyed & bushy-tailed, they're really gonna lash out at our audacity to criticise (frighten) them.
#15. To: phantom patriot, all (#14)
Obamacare - ACORN
#16. To: PSUSA (#9)
Intimidation leads to either submission or violence, and it's violence they will get. People aren't there protesting because they are submissive.
#17. To: Lod (#15)
#18. To: Lod (#15)
#19. To: phantom patriot, Cynicom, all (#18)
#20. To: Lod (#19)
awaiting the right spark.
#21. To: Lod (#19)
I feel as though we're sitting on a powder-keg just awaiting the right spark.
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
(Edited)
police volunteer Taser recharger
#23. To: phantom patriot, Lod, Cynicom, christine, all (#21)
(Edited)
I feel as though we're sitting on a powder-keg just awaiting the right spark.
#24. To: phantom patriot, Cynicom, all (#21)
I don't think anyone really wants it but they have pushed us towards it and that's either the plan, or they are too educated to realize the truth and results of their tactics.
#25. To: Flintlock (#22)
police volunteer Taser recharger
#26. To: Lod, phantom patriot, Cynicom, all (#24)
Were our country a computer, I'd say that a hard re-boot is in order.
#27. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull (#25)
2 years as a English to Ebonics translator at your local DMV.
#28. To: Original_Intent (#23)
But they do - that is one of the problems. Cyni was right in his comment that the spark will be supplied whether by somebody going off or by some Black Ops group pretending to be some group starting it off.
#29. To: Lod (#24)
Were our country a computer, I'd say that a hard re-boot is in order.
#30. To: Original_Intent (#26)
EVERY intelligent being on this planet, and Duhbya too.
#31. To: phantom patriot (#28)
As far as the non lethal weapons the cops have. I do believe there are enough of us to overwhelm them in a short order. In a conflict we will be able to obtain the same devices they have, one at a time. It's what comes next that I ponder.
#32. To: Flintlock (#27)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
And what good is socialized health care for AmeriKans if the government of Afghanistan won't allow their women to wear nipple rings and watch the View?
Freedom is a social skill.
#34. To: Original_Intent (#23)
But they do - that is one of the problems. Cyni was right in his comment that the spark will be supplied whether by somebody going off or by some Black Ops group pretending to be some group starting it off.
Freedom is a social skill.
#35. To: Anthem (#34)
Video cameras are the muskets of the modern revolution.
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#35)
Freedom is a social skill.
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
Create a health care system based on the single payer system run by the feds. BUT, in order to qualify, you must do one of the following for life time enrollment:
#38. To: wbales (#11)
Hey, Congressman!!
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