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Title: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'
Source: AP
URL Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090808/D99UJ4B00.html
Published: Aug 8, 2009
Author: MARK THIESSEN
Post Date: 2009-08-08 09:37:31 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 549
Comments: 51

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called President Barack Obama's health plan "downright evil" Friday in her first online comments since leaving office, saying in a Facebook posting that he would create a "death panel" that would deny care to the neediest Americans.

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care," the former Republican vice presidential candidate wrote.

"Such a system is downright evil," Palin wrote on her page, which has nearly 700,000 supporters. She encouraged her supporters to be engaged in the debate.

The claim that the Democratic health care bills would encourage euthanasia has been circulating on the Internet for weeks and has been echoed by some Republican leaders. Democrats from Obama on down have dismissed it as a distortion. The nonpartisan group FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania says the claim is false.

The allegation appears to be based on a provision of the House bill that would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling sessions, on a voluntary basis, for beneficiaries who want the service. Medicare already covers hospice care. And legislation passed by Congress in 1990 requires that patients be asked if they have a living will.

Obama addressed the controversy during a July 28 AARP-sponsored town hall.

"Nobody is going to be forcing you to make a set of decisions on end-of-life care based on some bureaucratic law in Washington," he said.

An e-mail sent to Palin's spokeswoman to confirm authorship of the Facebook posting was not immediately returned Friday. There was no immediate reply to phone messages left late Friday with the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office seeking comment on Palin's remarks.

Republican criticism has also included claims that the reform plans will lead to rationing, or the government determining which medical procedures a patient can have.

However, millions of Americans already face rationing, as insurance companies rule on procedures they will cover. Denying coverage for certain procedures might increase under proposals to have a government-appointed agency identify medicines and procedures best suited for various conditions.

Palin resigned as Alaska governor on July 26 with nearly 18 months left in her term. She cited not only the numerous ethics complaints that had been filed against her also her wish not to be a lame duck after the first-term governor decided not to seek re-election next year.

Palin, popular with conservatives in the Republican party, has said she wants to build a right-of-center coalition, and there is speculation she will seek the presidency in 2012. In the two weeks since she resigned, Palin has made only one public appearance, giving a Second Amendment rights speech last Saturday before a gun owners group in Anchorage.

Palin or her aides post notes on her Facebook account about once or twice a week, usually to set out policy statements, issue news releases or refute rumors circulating on the Internet.

Palin also has been largely silent before Friday's Facebook post. She was a voracious user of the social networking site Twitter, and promised to keep her supporters updated with a new private account after she left office. But that hasn't happened, leaving some of her fans begging for updates in the past two weeks.

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Associated Press writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar in Washington contributed to this report.


Poster Comment:

Rahm Emanuel's brother Ezekiel wrote an article for the British medical journal The Lancet in the January edition saying that we do need to cut off health care to the elderly and to marginal cases.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Obama addressed the controversy during a July 28 AARP-sponsored town hall.

"Nobody is going to be forcing you to make a set of decisions on end-of-life care based on some bureaucratic law in Washington," he said.

Black snake oil salesman.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-08   9:40:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Palin doesn't seem to be intimidated by his blackness.

+1

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-08   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2) (Edited)

The system MUST destroy Palin on a personal level, to ensure their total dominance of this government.

I never saw such obscene and vulgar names appended to Ferraro or Hillary, never, and there is a reason. Those two never were a third party threat to the system.

Palin projects abject fear into the hearts of the owners of the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-08   9:58:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#3)

Palin projects abject fear into the hearts of the owners of the system.

You're right, in a way. But the greatest fear "they" have is of having another imbecile in office so soon after Dubya.

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-08   10:12:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Sam Houston, All (#7)

You're right, in a way. But the greatest fear "they" have is of having another imbecile in office so soon after Dubya.

Sam...

My goodness, are you another woman hater????? Have to add you to that list.

Sam, anyone, even Sam Houston, would have my support if they were to come out ...anti system....

Whether or not you are an imbecile would not matter, rather if you took a stand as an American.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-08   12:13:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#13)

Whether or not you are an imbecile would not matter, rather if you took a stand as an American.

that's a good point, Cyni, but you have to admit, Sarah's extremely weak in the expression department and has made some very silly statesments. that's all Sam was saying. i don't think for a moment Sam's a woman-hater.

and the jury, of course, is still out on Palin taking a stand as an american. she still must be judged on her positions and stated support of policies as VP candidate that were, in fact, neoconnish and with her support of amnesty, anti- american.

i will watch to see if she denounces those in the future.

christine  posted on  2009-08-08   13:20:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#18)

Sarah's extremely weak in the expression department and has made some very silly statesments

In that regard.

We have an elected VP (Palin ran for VP) that prior to the election touted Roosevelt as demonstrating his prowess as a leader on national TV during the depression, to rally the American people to his cause.

Now mind you, the VP (was elected by 65 million people) sits one heart beat away from the Oval Office.

I see NO ONE here reminding us of Bidens apparent lack of history, yet someone that was NOT elected warrants the disdain for of all our resident intellectuals.

Hypocrisy wears many faces.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-08   13:42:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#21)

Cyni, I see your affection for that girl governor, as she makes some really distasteful people in both parties piss their drawers.

But really, you must see that she is a card-carrying member of the War Party.

Ostensibly, we are fighting two wars now that are really many wars. In the long run, though it's all one war that is not going well except in the dividends that it pays to those that are really running it.

Sooner or later it's going to get to the point where lots more grunts will be required. Then, as you've witnessed, we will again be hauling off young men in chains.

You can bet that Sarah will be fine with that.

I ain't.

randge  posted on  2009-08-08   14:22:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge (#25)

But really, you must see that she is a card-carrying member of the War Party.

Sooner or later it's going to get to the point where lots more grunts will be required. Then, as you've witnessed, we will again be hauling off young men in chains.

You can bet that Sarah will be fine with that.

Randge...

I forget the ladies name that lost a son in Iraq and hounded Bush for years.

Perhaps you recall her, she was against the Iraq war for Bush and is against the Afghan war for Obama. The dems loved her with Bush, hate her now with Obama.

I dont ever recall meeting a Mother that was for war. I believe Biden has a son somewhere over there, on paper Biden is all for the war, but if his son is anywhere near danger, I suspect he is not sincere.

As a gurl, I am madly in love with Sarah, as a politician, the ardor is soon lost, however there is something there that intrigues me. What is the one quality or view that Palin espouses that turns the hatred of ALL colors of the spectrum against her??????

IN my time I have NEVER seen one person so vilified by...both parties...all ideologies...all MSM. Right, left and center, lib and con, pub and dem, just what is it that Palin brings that unites all of those factions.

Perhaps it is not some quality,(stupid) they all dislike, just perhaps it is a fear that she might be encouraged to break out of the ruling two party system???

Do all of these people, including here on this 4um, really understand that they are indeed doing the will of the system????? Is that to difficult a concept for them to grasp???? It seems so.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-08   16:37:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#27)

Do all of these people, including here on this 4um, really understand that they are indeed doing the will of the system????? Is that to difficult a concept for them to grasp???? It seems so.

Cyni, I think plenty of people understand the systematic destruction of this nation. However, it's silly to believe that Palin would or could do anything to stem the tide. She's a pro-war Israeli firster for crying out loud. Don't you recall her and Biden fighting over who was the bigger brown noser for Israel during the debates?

I also think that this notion that Palin causes fear in people is comical. Any rational person would not fear a person who thinks that an ability to see Russia from the window constitutes foriegn policy experience. She said that crap herself in her interviews, nobody put any words in her mouth.

abraxas  posted on  2009-08-08   16:47:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: abraxas (#31)

She said that crap herself in her interviews, nobody put any words in her mouth.

I dont recall supporting or defending anything Palin may have said.

I wonder why EVERYONE AGREES IN EVERY FASHION ON THEIR DISDAIN FOR HER. I FIND THAT AMAZING IN POLITICS.

Bandied about here for instance, are whore, slut, stupid, silly, imbecile and a few I cannot repeat. Do you not find that odd?

I saw NONE of that for Hillary, none.

As for Russia and the window, she is correct, Little Diomede Island is but two miles from Big Diomede.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-08   17:30:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#37)

As for Russia and the window, she is correct, Little Diomede Island is but two miles from Big Diomede.

My post was cut off. Viewing Russia from the window DOESN'T equate to foreign policy experience. It doesn't even qualify Palin to be a tour guide of Little Diomede Island, let alone haggle with Putin.

Palin's statements on the issue are beyond idiocy, on the edge of imbecility. I find it odd that anybody could continue to defend the notion of a view of Russia as foreign policy experience. It's comical.

Pull your head out from under Palin's skirt, Cyni, the lack of oxygen is clouding your usually good judgment.

abraxas  posted on  2009-08-08   17:50:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: abraxas (#40)

Pull your head out from under Palin's skirt, Cyni, the lack of oxygen is clouding your usually good judgment.

I find that offensive and uncalled for.

I do not engage in discussion with such.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-08   17:56:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#46. To: Cynicom (#44)

Pull your head out from under Palin's skirt, Cyni, the lack of oxygen is clouding your usually good judgment. I find that offensive and uncalled for.

Lighten up, Cyni, that was OBVIOUSLY a joke that was in no way intended to offend you. What's up with this newly found thin skin? Does this only occur during Palin discussions?

lol......maybe I should recant my "usually good judgment" statement. : )

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