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Title: Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'
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URL Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090808/D99UJ4B00.html
Published: Aug 8, 2009
Author: MARK THIESSEN
Post Date: 2009-08-08 09:37:31 by Horse
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Views: 599
Comments: 51
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called President Barack Obama's health plan "downright evil" Friday in her first online comments since leaving office, saying in a Facebook posting that he would create a "death panel" that would deny care to the neediest Americans. "The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care," the former Republican vice presidential candidate wrote. "Such a system is downright evil," Palin wrote on her page, which has nearly 700,000 supporters. She encouraged her supporters to be engaged in the debate. The claim that the Democratic health care bills would encourage euthanasia has been circulating on the Internet for weeks and has been echoed by some Republican leaders. Democrats from Obama on down have dismissed it as a distortion. The nonpartisan group FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania says the claim is false. The allegation appears to be based on a provision of the House bill that would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling sessions, on a voluntary basis, for beneficiaries who want the service. Medicare already covers hospice care. And legislation passed by Congress in 1990 requires that patients be asked if they have a living will. Obama addressed the controversy during a July 28 AARP-sponsored town hall. "Nobody is going to be forcing you to make a set of decisions on end-of-life care based on some bureaucratic law in Washington," he said. An e-mail sent to Palin's spokeswoman to confirm authorship of the Facebook posting was not immediately returned Friday. There was no immediate reply to phone messages left late Friday with the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office seeking comment on Palin's remarks. Republican criticism has also included claims that the reform plans will lead to rationing, or the government determining which medical procedures a patient can have. However, millions of Americans already face rationing, as insurance companies rule on procedures they will cover. Denying coverage for certain procedures might increase under proposals to have a government-appointed agency identify medicines and procedures best suited for various conditions. Palin resigned as Alaska governor on July 26 with nearly 18 months left in her term. She cited not only the numerous ethics complaints that had been filed against her also her wish not to be a lame duck after the first-term governor decided not to seek re-election next year. Palin, popular with conservatives in the Republican party, has said she wants to build a right-of-center coalition, and there is speculation she will seek the presidency in 2012. In the two weeks since she resigned, Palin has made only one public appearance, giving a Second Amendment rights speech last Saturday before a gun owners group in Anchorage. Palin or her aides post notes on her Facebook account about once or twice a week, usually to set out policy statements, issue news releases or refute rumors circulating on the Internet. Palin also has been largely silent before Friday's Facebook post. She was a voracious user of the social networking site Twitter, and promised to keep her supporters updated with a new private account after she left office. But that hasn't happened, leaving some of her fans begging for updates in the past two weeks. --- Associated Press writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar in Washington contributed to this report.
Poster Comment: Rahm Emanuel's brother Ezekiel wrote an article for the British medical journal The Lancet in the January edition saying that we do need to cut off health care to the elderly and to marginal cases.
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#12. To: Sam Houston (#7)
C'mon Sam, 1st of all you know that Dubya didn't run shit. 2ndly, you watched a so-called compassionate conservative implement a socialist dictatorship without much protest. The idea that an imbecile in the White House is an impediment to the institution of the globalist agenda is a little naive. Your continual harping on republicrap and absence of critical analysis of democraps offends your credibility.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Sam... My goodness, are you another woman hater????? Have to add you to that list. Sam, anyone, even Sam Houston, would have my support if they were to come out ...anti system.... Whether or not you are an imbecile would not matter, rather if you took a stand as an American.
That's a tough call because the situation is so fluid, but for the most damage done to the country, to date, in their 'War on the Goyim', Goldman Sachs & their alumni in the whitehouse, treasury & fed are in the lead. It's an easy call to say who the Palis are in this war though, it's us. Burn baby, burn. Edit: You catch the article the other day about GS announcing they're going to run the price of oil up to $140 & beyond again? Even dogs are smart enough to tell the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked. Too bad the dumbed down, PC infected sheeple of this country aren't. Why do you suppose the Chinese economy is still growing and they're flush with money? Hint: They keep the you-know-whoos away from their govt & money.
At my age, near 80 years of ..status quo...the system itself is distasteful. If the devil himself came out in opposition to the system, he would be my friend.
Well, after listening to Obama, I suspect we already have a person of challenged learning.
OI... It is no wonder this country is in dire straits, when people remain partisan, are willing to accept the status quo, and take glee in destroying anyone with differing views. The status quo was achieved by the dems/pubs over 70 years, we need a choice beyond those two. I cannot understand why some people here would refuse me a third choice, even if they are satisfied with two????
that's a good point, Cyni, but you have to admit, Sarah's extremely weak in the expression department and has made some very silly statesments. that's all Sam was saying. i don't think for a moment Sam's a woman-hater. and the jury, of course, is still out on Palin taking a stand as an american. she still must be judged on her positions and stated support of policies as VP candidate that were, in fact, neoconnish and with her support of amnesty, anti- american. i will watch to see if she denounces those in the future.
Turtle is the devil in disguise.
Perhaps but what he did, needed to be done, in my opinion. He drew a line in the sand and freedom loving conservative people in the GOP crossed to his side and they keep coming. The GOP will be left with the dupes who fancy themselves as part of some fascist oligarchy eager to use government to satiate their greed with no regard for fellow Americans. When the present joker gets done loping off all the freedom loving Dems, that party will be left with a lot of foolish parasites and a group of aspiring socialist administrator type self-appointed elites who duped the parasites and will soon abandon them. The loped off portion will have to go somewhere. It will be interesting to see what's left of the Dem and GOP political factions, these demented, amoral, greed-sick, would be destroyers of humanity, fracture into groups and do battle with each other for all the marbles. Driven to distraction by insane greed, they may not notice they have become obsolete.
In that regard. We have an elected VP (Palin ran for VP) that prior to the election touted Roosevelt as demonstrating his prowess as a leader on national TV during the depression, to rally the American people to his cause. Now mind you, the VP (was elected by 65 million people) sits one heart beat away from the Oval Office. I see NO ONE here reminding us of Bidens apparent lack of history, yet someone that was NOT elected warrants the disdain for of all our resident intellectuals. Hypocrisy wears many faces.
It will be interesting to see what's left of the Dem and GOP political factions, well articulated
Next time I promise to spell "lopped" correctly.
Dem and Pub are merely name tags pinned on people for identity purposes. Take the name tags off and all of a sudden you do not know one from another. As an example take Senator Specter, for untold years he walked around with a PUB tag on his lapel. A few days ago he took the Pub tag off and affixed a DEM identity tag. Did anything change? Did Specter change? Nothing changed. People are too programmed in this pub/dem affair. For all those years the pub sheep loved Specter and the dem sheep hated him, now it is reversed, the sheep are well programmed, it has been a giant success.
Cyni, I see your affection for that girl governor, as she makes some really distasteful people in both parties piss their drawers. But really, you must see that she is a card-carrying member of the War Party. Ostensibly, we are fighting two wars now that are really many wars. In the long run, though it's all one war that is not going well except in the dividends that it pays to those that are really running it. Sooner or later it's going to get to the point where lots more grunts will be required. Then, as you've witnessed, we will again be hauling off young men in chains. You can bet that Sarah will be fine with that. I ain't.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. What Paul did, hopefully, convinces many that "freedom loving American" is better than any party label.
Sooner or later it's going to get to the point where lots more grunts will be required. Then, as you've witnessed, we will again be hauling off young men in chains. You can bet that Sarah will be fine with that. Randge... I forget the ladies name that lost a son in Iraq and hounded Bush for years. Perhaps you recall her, she was against the Iraq war for Bush and is against the Afghan war for Obama. The dems loved her with Bush, hate her now with Obama. I dont ever recall meeting a Mother that was for war. I believe Biden has a son somewhere over there, on paper Biden is all for the war, but if his son is anywhere near danger, I suspect he is not sincere. As a gurl, I am madly in love with Sarah, as a politician, the ardor is soon lost, however there is something there that intrigues me. What is the one quality or view that Palin espouses that turns the hatred of ALL colors of the spectrum against her?????? IN my time I have NEVER seen one person so vilified by...both parties...all ideologies...all MSM. Right, left and center, lib and con, pub and dem, just what is it that Palin brings that unites all of those factions. Perhaps it is not some quality,(stupid) they all dislike, just perhaps it is a fear that she might be encouraged to break out of the ruling two party system??? Do all of these people, including here on this 4um, really understand that they are indeed doing the will of the system????? Is that to difficult a concept for them to grasp???? It seems so.
True... He had the right message, he was not the proper messenger. We have no messenger, no voice.
Well then, it is you, me and the devil against the system. It appears most favor the system.
That was funny. There is no "concept" to "grasp". If we were doing the will of the system, we would not dare speak out against it. Or act against it. Puppy love has you a little confused. One hot 40something comes on the scene and you post something like that... .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. -Sun Tzu
Cyni, I think plenty of people understand the systematic destruction of this nation. However, it's silly to believe that Palin would or could do anything to stem the tide. She's a pro-war Israeli firster for crying out loud. Don't you recall her and Biden fighting over who was the bigger brown noser for Israel during the debates? I also think that this notion that Palin causes fear in people is comical. Any rational person would not fear a person who thinks that an ability to see Russia from the window constitutes foriegn policy experience. She said that crap herself in her interviews, nobody put any words in her mouth.
That's the deal-killer here.
I think the fact Cyni argues in this manner, not only with me, but with anyone who challenged the goddess status of Mrs. Palin, is called throwing in a "red herring" into the discussion. Since I just compared Palin to Bush as more or less being equivalent in intellect, that also makes me a man-hater. So I am a misogynous, misandrous misanthrope. Perhaps that is the case. The history of the human race is definitely a mixed bag. I am not "proud" to be a human, to put it in Lee Greenwood lingo.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Sam... I will admit you have not used obscene vulgar language in describing Palin. That is a plus on your side. However that does remove you from the programmed sheep flock.
As a gurl, I am madly in love with Sarah, Misplaced modifier here, as I know you are not a girl, but I can see that you have a crush on Palin. And I can see the reason for your infatuation, because she is a pretty tight looking 40-something. And that's one thing that really makes the "left" nervous. Few things drive votes to the polls like a sexy candidate. Palin has a kind of sizzle that could deliver lots of votes, party notwithstanding. The "left" fear this in their little bones. It may be premature, but somehow I smell the stench of death from this administration already. The dems are quaking in their boots anyway. All the right establishment don't like Palin either. She's a free agent, and as far as I can see, isn't compromised enough to be blackmailed. She has Izzy power in her back pocket too. Damn, if I was a big time pubbie, she'd be making me nervous too. And if I was Cyni, I'd be in love.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. I dont recall supporting or defending anything Palin may have said. I wonder why EVERYONE AGREES IN EVERY FASHION ON THEIR DISDAIN FOR HER. I FIND THAT AMAZING IN POLITICS. Bandied about here for instance, are whore, slut, stupid, silly, imbecile and a few I cannot repeat. Do you not find that odd? I saw NONE of that for Hillary, none. As for Russia and the window, she is correct, Little Diomede Island is but two miles from Big Diomede.
There is a tad of tongue in cheek from me about Sarah. It seems to go over most heads here, but who cares. So lets write Palin off, no more Palin, done with that. Looking around, just who do we see that might just might stir unrest in the system??????? Golly, I dont see a soul, looks as if the system has a wide open running field. But wait, perhaps the system will slip in a phony third party wannabe, to lead us around by our noses, similar to Ron Paul. Love will blossom on 4um for Romney or whomever the system coughs up for us to follow like lemmings. Paul jilted us before we got to the church, somewhat like a stalking horse, you know what that is. People dont want whats her name, but just maybe the system will once again provide us another Pied Piper. I love politics.
Geez, Cyni, just because folks aren't gung-ho for Palin doesn't mean they DISDAIN her. That would require a level of emotional attachment that most simply can't muster for the woman. You deem any commentary that is not swooning over Palin as hate or disdain or picking on her. I haven't heard anybody calling her a whore or slut or an imbecile. Silly and stupid--yes--often her yapping at the mouth gives this impression. I also find her playing the victim card is rather pathetic. However, with folks foaming at the mouth at any discussion that doesn't rise to the level of cheerleading for her, I can see how she profits from victim status. Hillary has taken a lot of shots. I've heard her called all those names listed
My post was cut off. Viewing Russia from the window DOESN'T equate to foreign policy experience. It doesn't even qualify Palin to be a tour guide of Little Diomede Island, let alone haggle with Putin. Palin's statements on the issue are beyond idiocy, on the edge of imbecility. I find it odd that anybody could continue to defend the notion of a view of Russia as foreign policy experience. It's comical. Pull your head out from under Palin's skirt, Cyni, the lack of oxygen is clouding your usually good judgment.
Since she has all those FBI files, what does she care? Bitch is bullet-proof.
lol.......are you channelling the ghost of Vince Foster? : )
No one here asked for support for Palin, I dont support her myself. It is the concerted disdain by all factions that amazes me....support has nothing to do with this. That is a misconception. Any time all factions in general are for or against anyone, I wonder why. Rest assured the system loves it, their most cherished accomplishment. If the system had in mind Palin as a replacement for Paul to lead the lemmings, they would hardly destroy her themselves???? Did you notice once Paul expressed his love and fidelity for the republican party that the long knives were sheathed and everyone then proceeded to ignore him???? From a hapless, bumbling, doddering old fool, he became practically an unknown kindly, gray haired gentleman, over night.
I find that offensive and uncalled for. I do not engage in discussion with such.
Did you notice once Paul expressed his love and fidelity for the republican party that the long knives were sheathed and everyone then proceeded to ignore him???? From a hapless, bumbling, doddering old fool, he became practically an unknown kindly, gray haired gentleman, over night Let me share the distinction between Paul and Palin. Paul has integrity. He doesn't play the victim card when people undermine him or even outright lie about him. He understands and actually respects the first amendment. He says what he believes and believes in his principles. Palin is no Paul. She has a record of making dishonest claims, foreign policy is just one of many. Paul, on the other hand, will hold fast to principles even if they are unpopular with people. Palin doesn't do that. She had no qualms whoring the McCain ideology for the chance to be VP. That's not something Dr. Paul would ever do. The system loves that they can spin Palin. Paul couldn't be spun so easily.
Lighten up, Cyni, that was OBVIOUSLY a joke that was in no way intended to offend you. What's up with this newly found thin skin? Does this only occur during Palin discussions? lol......maybe I should recant my "usually good judgment" statement. : )
I guess. Reminds me of the clintoon body count thread on fr way, way back in the day. I miss those days. In a perverse sort of way.
Palin's just a convenient, and easy, distraction from all the real problems that we have in .gov, and in the way that we go about building empire around the globe. And by the way, how's our economy doing last time that you checked? Mrs. Palin's been made into a caricature of herself, and is just such an easy target to shoot at, while ignoring the very real policies, and problems, that should be soberly discussed. That said, this may be my last post on this matter. Massive cheers, guys and gals.
In a perverse sort of way. More days like that are sure to come. For all the singing of Kumbya, the Dems, like the Reps, are corrupt to the core and don't let ethics get in the way of what must be done. I think Obama is in the same league as the Clintoons.......he won't disappoint. He's already hired on the ol' Clintoon gang, essential for keeping the body count on the down low. : )
I agree, Lod. Palin wouldn't be a caricature of herself if she simply stopped booking all the interviews and appearances. Diversion. Nothing to see here looky lous......move along.
Agreed.
But the greatest fear "they" have is of having another imbecile in office so soon after Dubya.
#13. To: Sam Houston, All (#7)
You're right, in a way. But the greatest fear "they" have is of having another imbecile in office so soon after Dubya.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
(Edited)
And who might the jew, jew, jewiest of them all be?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#15. To: mirage (#9)
Then, as much as it may be distasteful, we must support her.
#16. To: christine, Sam Houston (#10)
imbecile in office so soon after Dubya.
#17. To: Original_Intent (#11)
Exactly. She is a "loose cannon" i.e., not under the control of the Bankster-Psychiatrist Complex. She also has a significant following and continuing popularity which puts her in a position to "rock the boat". Bully for her
#18. To: Cynicom (#13)
Whether or not you are an imbecile would not matter, rather if you took a stand as an American.
#19. To: Cynicom (#15)
the devil himself came out in opposition to the system, he would be my friend.
There's no place better thanTurtle Island.
#20. To: Cynicom (#5)
He had NO intention of ever going third party and his saying he might kept other legitimate candidates from doing so.
#21. To: christine (#18)
Sarah's extremely weak in the expression department and has made some very silly statesments
#22. To: eskimo (#20)
When the present joker gets done loping off all the freedom loving Dems, that party will be left with a lot of foolish parasites and a group of aspiring socialist administrator type self-appointed elites who duped the parasites and will soon abandon them. The loped off portion will have to go somewhere.
#23. To: christine (#22)
#24. To: eskimo, christine, All (#20)
#25. To: Cynicom (#21)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#26. To: Cynicom (#24)
Dem and Pub are merely name tags pinned on people for identity purposes. Take the name tags off and all of a sudden you do not know one from another.
#27. To: randge (#25)
But really, you must see that she is a card-carrying member of the War Party.
#28. To: eskimo (#26)
What Paul did, hopefully, convinces many that "freedom loving American" is better than any party label.
#29. To: Turtle (#19)
Turtle is the devil in disguise.
#30. To: Cynicom (#27)
Do all of these people, including here on this 4um, really understand that they are indeed doing the will of the system????? Is that to difficult a concept for them to grasp???? It seems so.
#31. To: Cynicom (#27)
Do all of these people, including here on this 4um, really understand that they are indeed doing the will of the system????? Is that to difficult a concept for them to grasp???? It seems so.
#32. To: abraxas, all (#31)
She's a pro-war Israeli firster for crying out loud. Don't you recall her and Biden fighting over who was the bigger brown noser for Israel during the debates?
#33. To: christine, Cynicom (#13)
i don't think for a moment Sam's a woman-hater.
#34. To: Sam Houston (#33)
#35. To: Sam Houston (#33)
great alliteration bump
#36. To: Cynicom (#27)
(Edited)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#37. To: abraxas (#31)
She said that crap herself in her interviews, nobody put any words in her mouth.
#38. To: randge (#36)
And if I was Cyni, I'd be in love. And if I was Cyni, I'd be in love.
#39. To: Cynicom (#37)
I wonder why EVERYONE AGREES IN EVERY FASHION ON THEIR DISDAIN FOR HER. I FIND THAT AMAZING IN POLITICS.
#40. To: Cynicom (#37)
As for Russia and the window, she is correct, Little Diomede Island is but two miles from Big Diomede.
#41. To: abraxas, all (#39)
Hillary has taken a lot of shots. I've heard her called all those names listed.
#42. To: Lod (#41)
Bitch is bullet-proof.
#43. To: abraxas (#39)
Geez, Cyni, just because folks aren't gung-ho for Palin doesn't mean they DISDAIN her
#44. To: abraxas (#40)
Pull your head out from under Palin's skirt, Cyni, the lack of oxygen is clouding your usually good judgment.
#45. To: Cynicom (#43)
Rest assured the system loves it, their most cherished accomplishment. If the system had in mind Palin as a replacement for Paul to lead the lemmings, they would hardly destroy her themselves????
#46. To: Cynicom (#44)
Pull your head out from under Palin's skirt, Cyni, the lack of oxygen is clouding your usually good judgment. I find that offensive and uncalled for.
#47. To: abraxas, all (#42)
lol.......are you channeling the ghost of Vince Foster?
#48. To: abraxas, Cynicom, all (#46)
#49. To: Lod (#47)
I miss those days.
#50. To: Lod (#48)
Palin's just a convenient, and easy, distraction from all the real problems that we have in .gov, and in the way that we go about building empire around the globe.
#51. To: Cynicom (#15)
At my age, near 80 years of ..status quo...the system itself is distasteful.
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