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Title: Pope Notes 'Insane' Ideology of Nazis During Synagogue Visit
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 005/08/19/AR2005081900456.html
Published: Aug 19, 2005
Author: Craig Whitlock
Post Date: 2005-08-19 09:24:42 by Arete
Keywords: Synagogue, Insane, Ideology
Views: 390
Comments: 25

Benedict XVI's Visit to Germany Is His First Foreign Trip as Pontiff

COLOGNE, Germany, Aug. 19 -- Pope Benedict XVI, the first German pontiff in 500 years, said "the insane, racist ideology" of Nazism gave rise to the Holocaust and pledged to improve relations between Catholics and Jews during a historic visit Thursday to a synagogue, becoming only the second pope to enter a Jewish house of worship.

Benedict, a one-time member of the Hitler Youth who deserted the German military during the waning days of World War II, paid tribute to an estimated 11,000 Jews from Cologne who died during the Holocaust during a visit to a synagogue that was destroyed by the Nazis in 1938 but rebuilt in the 1950s.

"The holiness of God was no longer recognized, and consequently contempt was shown for the sacredness of human life," Benedict said. He quoted his predecessor, John Paul II, who said memories of the Holocaust must "never cease to rouse consciences, to resolve conflicts, to inspire the building of peace."

Upon entering the Cologne synagogue, Benedict stopped to pray briefly in a memorial room to the estimated 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust and promised to continue John Paul's efforts to build a "friendship" and closer ties between Roman Catholics and Jews.

During his 27-year reign, John Paul became the first pope to visit a synagogue when he entered a Jewish temple in Rome in 1986, established diplomatic ties between the Vatican and Israel and made a historic visit to Jerusalem.

Benedict stopped short of apologizing for the Catholic church's failure to take a stronger public stand against the Nazis during World War II and the Holocaust, something that many Jewish leaders have urged.

Abraham Lehrer, a Jewish community leader in Cologne, publicly asked Benedict during the synagogue visit to further open the Vatican's archives from World War II to detail the church's response to the Holocaust. Such a gesture "would be a further sign of historical conscience and would also satisfy critics," Lehrer said.

Benedict did not respond directly to the request. But in his speech he made a general reference to such disputes, saying he "would encourage sincere and trustful dialogue between Jews and Christians, for only in this way will it be possible to arrive at a shared interpretation of disputed historical questions."

Many Jewish leaders, including several in Germany, praised Benedict's election as pope in April, saying he shared John Paul's commitment to mending relations between Jews and Catholics. But some sore points have already emerged during Benedict's short reign.

Benedict drew criticism from Israel after he failed to single out the Jewish state as a victim of terrorism in a statement he issued in July decrying the London suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks around the world. The Vatican responded with criticism of its own, accusing Israel of trying to put words in the pope's mouth.

Benedict is scheduled to continue his outreach to leaders of other faiths on Saturday in a visit with Muslim leaders in Cologne, where he is spending four days to attend a global summit of Catholic youths. It is Pope Benedict's first foreign trip.

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#1. To: Arete (#0)

Is the Pope Catholic? And his first trip outside Vatican City...fascinating...

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-19   9:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Arete (#0)

Benedict is scheduled to continue his outreach to leaders of other faiths on Saturday in a visit with Muslim leaders in Cologne, where he is spending four days to attend a global summit of Catholic youths

..historic visit Thursday to a synagogue, becoming only the second pope to enter a Jewish house of worship.

Now I have no problem with Christians whether they be Catholic or otherwise speaking out against acts done against groups of people i.e. genocide etc. but what does the scripture say?:

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-19   9:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

Benedict is scheduled to continue his outreach to leaders of other faiths on Saturday in a visit with Muslim leaders in Cologne, where he is spending four days to attend a global summit of Catholic youths

He's pushing for the UN sponsered 'World Church"

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-08-19   10:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Grumble Jones (#3)

He's pushing for the UN sponsered 'World Church"

He worships then at the feet of someone other than Christ..

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-19   10:05:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#2)

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?

Paul's words: "unbelievers" apistoi, "lawlessness" anomia. My Ph.D. is in Greek (and Latin,) and I feel pretty confident that a Christian of Paul's time would use those words for pagans, but not for Jews.

Anyway, look at the context. Paul is writing to Christians in Corinth, a city in Greece. Look at verse 16: "temple of God with idols". Paul is clearly contrasting Christianity with paganism.

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-19   11:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: aristeides (#5)

True in that context. But any religious group whether it be muslims, buddists, jews, hindus, mormons, etc. do not believe that Jesus is God come in the flesh, are in fact unbelievers.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-19   11:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

Problem is, that's what they ALL say. That is, if you are not of my religion, then you are an unbeliever. It's not just christians (right or wrong) who say it, but the other religions as well. And I question the benefit of such an attitude, especially when EVERYBODY is taking it.

My religion is better than yours. NYAAH NYAAH NYAAH! ;^p

"War is the health of the state" --- Randolph Bourne

PnbC  posted on  2005-08-19   13:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eoghan, all (#1)

Does anyone long for a standing "O"?

If yes, just tell a pack of Jews they're hated.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-19   14:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PnbC (#7)

My religion is better than yours. NYAAH NYAAH NYAAH! ;^p

Not the issue. The issue here is IF someone is claims to be a Christian then are they not to follow the teachings of Christianity? That is the point. It's the hypocrisy and the pope is the leader of a christian denomination.. as as such he of all people should be following those teachings.

I Keep Forgettin'

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-19   14:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eoghan (#1)

The Pope recognized the holocaust religion.

BOT mentality 'includes black-and-white thinking, extremism, irrational judgment, a lack of "normal" skepticism, idolization, and a host of other "disorders" that seem part and parcel for the Neocon'- Robert Parsons

Bayonne  posted on  2005-08-19   15:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Arete (#0)

"The holiness of God was no longer recognized, and consequently contempt was shown for the sacredness of human life,"

Upon entering the Cologne synagogue, Benedict stopped to pray briefly in a memorial room to the estimated 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust.

holocaust as sacred

BOT mentality 'includes black-and-white thinking, extremism, irrational judgment, a lack of "normal" skepticism, idolization, and a host of other "disorders" that seem part and parcel for the Neocon'- Robert Parsons

Bayonne  posted on  2005-08-19   15:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Bayonne (#11)

"The holiness of God was no longer recognized, and consequently contempt was shown for the sacredness of human life,"

Which holocaust?

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-19   15:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#12)

Its got to be totally unique. No acknowledgement of other mass killings in the 20th century is allowed. It is sacred, after all. At this rate, the Pope will apologize for the holocaust in a few years and recognize the movement that promotes it as a religion.

BOT mentality 'includes black-and-white thinking, extremism, irrational judgment, a lack of "normal" skepticism, idolization, and a host of other "disorders" that seem part and parcel for the Neocon'- Robert Parsons

Bayonne  posted on  2005-08-19   15:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Bayonne (#13)

Its got to be totally unique. No acknowledgement of other mass killings in the 20th century is allowed. It is sacred, after all. At this rate, the Pope will apologize for the holocaust in a few years and recognize the movement that promotes it as a religion.

Well it is a belief which could constitute a religion. Perhaps Zundel should try starting a religion based on his beliefs and then he can sue on the grounds of religious freedom.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-19   16:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zipporah (#9)

Benedict drew criticism from Israel after he failed to single out the Jewish state as a victim of terrorism in a statement he issued in July decrying the London suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks around the world. The Vatican responded with criticism of its own, accusing Israel of trying to put words in the pope's mouth.

Benedict started out okay. He had to be reminded that Tel Aviv, not Rome, is the seat of Christianity.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2005-08-19   17:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Arete (#0)

Why do you keep posting these stories about Jews, are you obsessed or something?

I find that particular hope-it-sticks random fling tactic the funniest, especially when one can't listen to FNC, CNN, NPR (especially NPR!) or any MSM news without hearing about Israel.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-19   20:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#16)

I hear NPR includes pictures of the cleaning staff at the corporate office so not to suspect a hiring bias from visitors...

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-19   20:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eoghan (#17)

Better than throwing them out of helicopters I guess.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-19   20:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#18)

Picking through the waste baskets...some of them 'went'?

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-19   20:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Eoghan (#19)

I remember reading about pictures of cleaning staff for "diversity" reasons or some other such social engineering tendencies. Do you have link to more info about that?

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-19   20:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Dakmar (#20)

Nah, read it somewhere...I agreed with the writer's conclusion though...

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-19   20:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PnbC (#7)

Problem is, that's what they ALL say. That is, if you are not of my religion, then you are an unbeliever. It's not just christians (right or wrong) who say it, but the other religions as well. And I question the benefit of such an attitude, especially when EVERYBODY is taking it.

My religion is better than yours. NYAAH NYAAH NYAAH! ;^p

Well maybe because the religions are all founded, perpetuated and find their most fertile ground in ignorance. Intellectual, philosophical and scientific ignorance.

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Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-08-19   21:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dude Lebowski, PnbC (#22)

Well maybe because the religions are all founded, perpetuated and find their most fertile ground in ignorance. Intellectual, philosophical and scientific ignorance.

And tribalism, don't forget that. Anyone who denies tribalism exists is both a liar, a fool, and....damn, I used up both my boths.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-19   21:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Arete (#0)

Pope to meet German Muslim heads

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-19   23:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Bayonne (#10)

http://jta.org...Jerry Falwell's a piker...

ICHEIC to distribute $16 million

The commission for Holocaust insurance claims announced it would be distributing $16 million to Holocaust victims and their heirs.

The International Commission on Holocaust Era Insurance Claims said Friday it was offering $5.5 million for life insurance policies held with companies that have been liquidated since World War II, and $10.5 million for claims containing anecdotal information about policies.

“While no amount of compensation in any form can make up for what Holocaust victims suffered, these payments are an important step in addressing one particular aspect of the many wrongs of that time,” said ICHEIC’s chairman, Lawrence Eagleburger.

The awards are being offered from ICHEIC’s humanitarian funds.

Vhat's this?

Israeli banks profit from Holocaust

Denials

At the time, the banks fiercely denied that they held any money from Holocaust victims but after three years of auditing the banks' accounts, led by a former police anti-corruption officer, Yehuda Bar-Lev, the committee found thousands of dormant accounts, estimated to be worth some $220 million.

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-20   0:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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