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Title: Analysts Expect Long-Term, Costly U.S. Campaign in Afghanistan
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URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /08/08/AR2009080802283_pf.html
Published: Aug 9, 2009
Author: Walter Pincus
Post Date: 2009-08-09 10:14:59 by christine
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As the Obama administration expands U.S. involvement in Afghanistan, military experts are warning that the United States is taking on security and political commitments that will last at least a decade and a cost that will probably eclipse that of the Iraq war.

Since the invasion of Afghanistan eight years ago, the United States has spent $223 billion on war-related funding for that country, according to the Congressional Research Service. Aid expenditures, excluding the cost of combat operations, have grown exponentially, from $982 million in 2003 to $9.3 billion last year.

The costs are almost certain to keep growing. The Obama administration is in the process of overhauling the U.S. approach to Afghanistan, putting its focus on long-term security, economic sustainability and development. That approach is also likely to require deployment of more American military personnel, at the very least to train additional Afghan security forces.

Later this month, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, is expected to present his analysis of the situation in the country. The analysis could prompt an increase in U.S. troop levels to help implement President Obama's new strategy.

Military experts insist that the additional resources are necessary. But many, including some advising McChrystal, say they fear the public has not been made aware of the significant commitments that come with Washington's new policies.

"We will need a large combat presence for many years to come, and we will probably need a large financial commitment longer than that," said Stephen Biddle, a senior fellow for defense policy at the Council on Foreign Relations and a member of the "strategic assessment" team advising McChrystal. The expansion of the Afghan security force that the general will recommend to secure the country "will inevitably cost much more than any imaginable Afghan government is going to be able to afford on its own," Biddle added.

"Afghan forces will need $4 billion a year for another decade, with a like sum for development," said Bing West, a former assistant secretary of defense and combat Marine who has chronicled the Iraq and Afghan wars. Bing said the danger is that Congress is "so generous in support of our own forces today, it may not support the aid needed for progress in Afghanistan tomorrow."

Some members of Congress are worried. The House Appropriations Committee said in its report on the fiscal 2010 defense appropriations bill that its members are "concerned about the prospects for an open-ended U.S. commitment to bring stability to a country that has a decades-long history of successfully rebuffing foreign military intervention and attempts to influence internal politics."

The Afghan government has made some political and military progress since 2001, but the Taliban insurgency has been reinvigorated.

Anthony H. Cordesman, another member of McChrystal's advisory group and a national security expert with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told reporters recently that even with military gains in the next 12 to 18 months, it would take years to reduce sharply the threat from the Taliban and other insurgent forces.

The task that the United States has taken on in Afghanistan is in many ways more difficult than the one it has encountered in Iraq, where the U.S. government has spent $684 billion in war-related funding.

In a 2008 study that ranked the weakest states in the developing world, the Brookings Institution rated Afghanistan second only to Somalia. Afghanistan's gross domestic product in 2008 was $23 billion, with about $3 billion coming from opium production, according to the CIA's World Factbook. Oil-producing Iraq had a GDP of $113 billion.

Afghanistan's central government takes in roughly $890 million in annual revenue, according to the World Factbook. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has pointed out that Afghanistan's national budget cannot support the $2 billion needed today for the country's army and police force.

Dutch Army Brig. Gen. Tom Middendorp, commander of the coalition task force in Afghanistan's southern Uruzgan province, described the region as virtually prehistoric.

"It's the poorest province of one of the poorest countries in the world. And if you walk through that province, it's like walking through the Old Testament," Middendorp told reporters recently. "There is enormous illiteracy in the province. More than 90 percent cannot write or read. So it's very basic, what you do there. And they have had 30 years of conflict."

Unlike in Iraq, where Obama has established a timeline for U.S. involvement, the president has not said when he would like to see troops withdrawn from Afghanistan.

White House officials emphasize that the burden is not that of the United States alone. The NATO-led force in the country has 61,000 troops from 42 countries; about 29,000 of those troops are American.

Still, military experts say the United States will not be able to shed its commitment easily.

The government has issued billions of dollars in contracts in recent years, underscoring the vast extent of work that U.S. officials are commissioning.

Among other purposes, contractors have been sought this summer to build a $25 million provincial Afghan National Police headquarters; maintain anti-personnel mine systems; design and build multimillion-dollar sections of roads; deliver by sea and air billions of dollars worth of military bulk cargo; and supervise a drug-eradication program.

One solicitation, issued by the Army Corps of Engineers, is aimed at finding a contractor to bring together Afghan economic, social, legal and political groups to help build the country's infrastructure. The contractor would work with Afghan government officials as well as representatives from private and nongovernmental organizations to establish a way to allocate resources for new projects.

"We are looking at two decades of supplying a few billion a year to Afghanistan," said Michael E. O'Hanlon, a senior fellow and military expert at the Brookings Institution, adding: "It's a reasonable guess that for 20 years, we essentially will have to fund half the Afghan budget." He described the price as reasonable, given that it may cost the United States $100 billion this year to continue fighting.

"We are creating a [long-term military aid] situation similar to the ones we have with Israel, Egypt and Jordan," he said.

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#5. To: christine (#0)

Why don't the teabaggers ever rally against this? At our latest one on our courthouse lawn on July 4, the speaker here decried Obama for NOT increasing the military budget, which he DID do, BTW, just not enough for the retired teabagging military officer (who, like McCain, was once a guest at the Hanoi Hilton).

This is another key reason the GOPers are finished. They are AGAINST Big Gubmint, except when they're not. ANYTHING which can be related to wars and the military gets a pass. The Blue Dog Dems with military bases in their district are no better.

Eisenhower's prophecy came true. This country is a captive of the MIC. We are all their slaves.

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-09   11:15:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston (#5)

Eisenhower's prophecy came true. This country is a captive of the MIC. We are all their slaves.

Well, there is one little detail you left out there.

GWBush had a chance to capture OBL early on in Afghanistan. Instead, he felt confident going into Iraq waging a do nothing campaign liberating the whole planet from tyrants. The tempo for success was lost in Afghanistan leading to well understood fact of where we are today.

And even if we accomplished our military and political objectives in Afghanistan, we would still fail. The Taliban would be replaced by others perhaps even more radical.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   11:35:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#6) (Edited)

And even if we accomplished our military and political objectives in Afghanistan, we would still fail.

We would fail with our ostensible objectives in Afghanistan because that is what they are designed to do - fail. Our real objectives have nothing to do with Afghanstan at all. Our real objectives involve staying in the region as long as possible. Our real objectives involve providing Iran with the surround sound of our artillery fire. Our real objectives involve jacking around with Russia in their own back yard.

The Taliban would be replaced by others perhaps even more radical.

The Taliban are about ten percent more conservative than the peasants from whose loins they spring. They are just the neighborhood bully boy farm hands that would rather sit around reading the Koran and walk the barrio toting AK's, than till the soil. They live off the dope we let them export. If it weren't for us, they'd be run out of town and have to find jobs.

BTW, Bucky, Big Bad Bin Ladin has been room temperature since '02, and the Chimpster had no intention of capturing him. Like Saddam he was our Frankenstein from early on. (He is ali-i-ive! Ha-ha-ha-ha!)

Now these boys are dead.

randge  posted on  2009-08-09   11:58:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#8)

Our real objectives involve staying in the region as long as possible. Our real objectives involve providing Iran with the surround sound of our artillery fire. Our real objectives involve jacking around with Russia in their own back yard.

I disagree with you about "real objectives" although America is acting as the catalyst as the de facto standard for ME aggression. The real objectives are the control of gas/oil energy pipelines into Southeast Europe.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   12:35:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#9)

Then we're on the same page.

This requires armed presence in Russia's outback for the forseeable future. Turning Iran would be a nice adjunct to all this.

The Taliban provide our leaders with a fright mask to shake on the face of the rubes that pay for and man our battalions over there.

randge  posted on  2009-08-09   13:00:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#10)

So, you have to place things in perspective. America is NOT in the ME to raise havoc even though it appears that way. The US maintains about 25% of the world's economy although it is relatively declining with the rise of China and India as industrial powerhouses. Still, the undercurrent we are discussing is about energy which fuels America's industrial capacity and capabilities and ensures our future to compete on the global markets. And I mean cheap fuel, too. It also ensures our allies have energy for their struggling economies as well.

So, you better believe there is national strategic interest in the ME. But it was never about "liberation" as that idiot and earlier liar and thief, GWBush, suggested countless times. It is about maintenance of stable markets ensuring tranquility on the home-front.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   13:35:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo, farmfriend, Original_Intent (#11)

It is about maintenance of stable markets ensuring tranquility on the home-front.

Stable markets at home depend on political and market stability abroad.

No one is a greater enemy of a stable international order than the fanatics at the controls of this country.

Stability? When do you remember stability?

You watch too many talking heads.

randge  posted on  2009-08-09   14:00:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#13)

Stability? When do you remember stability?

Gotcha...

Back in the 1930s we had stability for years.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-09   14:38:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

Back in the 1930s we had stability for years.

But the place holder of government rhetoric and dogma besides action is to ensure stability. The believers of any government authority must be stunned by the mess these same charlatans have created.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   15:02:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#16) (Edited)

buck...

It was such a mess that Roosevelt and his communist running dogs KNEW war was the only way out.

Proof...FDR had six long years to make repairs and things got worse. Henry Wallace started taking young pigs and plowing them under while people were hungry and some starving.

Can we afford to give Obama six long years????? I dont think so.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-09   15:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#17)

Proof...FDR had six long years to make repairs and things got worse.

Then Adolf Hitler became the world's nastiest man. The effort of war worked liked a charm. America stood at the outcome of WWII as the SUPERPOWER. Too cool, too. That's when the glorious manifestations of Truman came into being: the UN on the one hand and the CIA on the other.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   15:30:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo (#21)

It went downhill when the world elite decided war was the answer to world hunger.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-09   15:32:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#22)

It went downhill when the world elite decided war was the answer to world hunger.

Please remember the essential content of the article we are discussing. It is about further intrusion into Afghanistan by another ignorant elected president. And Afghanistan only has a population base of about 32Million, about one-tenth that of the USA; and it is one of the poorest nations on the planet.

American interests controlling the military actions there only want the pipelines. America could give a damned about world hunger in that hot, unbearable climate. Where is the water to turn farms into a gold mine?

Nope, it is all about the cross-roads of energy pipe-lines for energy consumption into Pakistan/India and the EU. The Taliban stand in our way.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   16:02:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo, Cynicom (#24)

American interests controlling the military actions there only want the pipelines.

I disagree. Our only interest over there is poppy crops.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-09   16:04:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: farmfriend (#25)

The issues in Afghanistan have nothing to do with narcotics. And I have a Hookah to prove it although it is bit dusty.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   16:57:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#29)

The issues in Afghanistan have nothing to do with narcotics.

Right, that's why we went to war on the taliban right after they cut off the opium trade.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-09   17:55:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: farmfriend (#30)

Au contraire, my dear. America was attacked by al-Qa'ida directly from Afghanistan and all of the ME with the singular exception of Iraq. Those MFers needed their asses fried creating a war situation. Unfortunately, America had a snot-nosed braggart at the helm; he even ditched his military assignments during earlier years. Yet, as a liar in thief the asshole chose to misdirect that war effort in Afghanistan playing mummbly pegs with Saddam Hussein.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   18:24:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#31)

As a racist nation, the chickens were coming home to roost. Certainly you agree.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-09   18:29:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#32)

As a racist nation, the chickens were coming home to roost. Certainly you agree.

Here is what I know and have always maintained: a pile of ignorant Muslims under the direction of Osama bin Laden bombed America. The common denominator for their attacks was the US government both about aggression in the ME and lackadaisical security here in America.

Trillions of dollars have been handily shelled out by tax payers to the FBI/CIA about learning this crap for years. And they failed. But of course, government always fails. But they are always the first to say they succeed.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   19:05:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#39)

Here is what I know and have always maintained: a pile of ignorant Muslims under the direction of Osama bin Laden bombed America.

And you would be wrong.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-09   19:13:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: farmfriend (#40)

Somehow, earlier on I knew that this thread would become majick truther faerie tale stuff for the weak of mind, brainless or infant minded. So go ahead and convince me. It better be good too.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   19:19:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#43)

Somehow, earlier on I knew that this thread would become majick truther faerie tale stuff for the weak of mind, brainless or infant minded. So go ahead and convince me. It better be good too.

As I said I was very much on the fence. I believed the government line and didn't follow the truther threads. What little I did see was intriguing hence being on the fence. This video lays it all out very nicely. The CNN footage of the planes crashing into the buildings was interesting and of course the BBC announcing that building seven had fallen when it is clearly in the picture behind the reporter is also rather interesting.

I've got lots of good videos that show the government for what it is including cops posing as protesters trying to start a riot. Great stuff.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-09   19:25:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: farmfriend (#47)

I've got lots of good videos that show the government for what it is including cops posing as protesters trying to start a riot. Great stuff.

But that is always after the fact. For 9/11, the US government was just an inept organization, non-caring about the original attack. It started from the top down, too.

Here is footage of GWBush reading about Pet Goats with a class of kids while being informed of the Twin Towers fiasco; he didn't give a damn:

These people in charge of government don't care. They think the world owes then a living.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   19:38:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeroo (#51)

Here is footage of GWBush reading about Pet Goats with a class of kids while being informed of the Twin Towers fiasco; he didn't give a damn:

Actually that is not what you are seeing. Bush clearly stated many times he saw the planes hit the towers.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-09   19:40:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: farmfriend (#52)

But, the truth is: America had nothing to do with the trigger mechanisms. All you see is ineptitude and silly blunders in governance before and after the event.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-09   19:46:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#55. To: buckeroo (#54)

tell me, buck, how is that Bin Laden was able to make NORAD stand down that day?

christine  posted on  2009-08-09 19:49:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo (#54)

But, the truth is: America had nothing to do with the trigger mechanisms. All you see is ineptitude and silly blunders in governance before and after the event.

No. Really you need to see that video. I'm going to see if some of it is on youtube. Stay tuned.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-09 19:51:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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