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Title: Protests Continue at Town Meetings Devoted to Healthcare
Source: The New American
URL Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/1628
Published: Aug 10, 2009
Author: Steven Yates
Post Date: 2009-08-10 22:22:04 by farmfriend
Keywords: None
Views: 144
Comments: 7

Protests Continue at Town Meetings Devoted to Healthcare

Written by Steven Yates
Monday, 10 August 2009 17:45

Healthcare reform is currently the hottest issue on the table. Congress has adjourned for the summer, but as its members hold town hall meetings devoted to discussions of Barack Obama’s health care plan, H.R. 3200 — called "Obamacare" by its detractors — they are finding themselves confronted by angry, vocal constituents.

Some, sensing the anger, have backed down from holding public meetings altogether. Brad Miller (D-N.C.) alleges that he received a death threat from a constituent when he declined to hold a town meeting.

In Michigan, a town hall meeting erupted to the point where police were called. Long-standing healthcare reform supporter John Dingall (D-Mich.) faced angry opponents who far outnumbered the handful of supporters. One man had gotten in Dingall’s face and told him, “You’re a fraud, you have not read the bill!” The man, Mike Sola, has a son disabled by cerebral palsy, and said that Obama’s bill would not help his disabled son. Police finally stepped in and compelled Sola to leave the meeting. “Fascist America!” he was heard to shout as he was escorted out.

The crowd was not mullified. Another man demanded, “How are you paying for it? Where is the money coming from?”

The handful of supporters chanted, “Healthcare now,” waving signs of support.

Opponents remained dominant, chanting back, “Kill the bill!”

Michigan, where the loss of manufacturing jobs especially in the automotive industry has sent unemployment almost to Great Depression levels, has become a cauldron of anger. Most of that anger is directed against government, which has bailed out corporations deemed "too big to fail" and stands accused of attempting to nationalize the healthcare and insurance industries in the United States.

Vocal protests against "Obamacare" have erupted at town hall meetings all across the country, however. In Saratoga, N.Y., roughly 20 protesters showed up at the meeting held by Scott Murphy (D-N.Y.) carrying signs reading “Obamacare Seniors Beware! Rationing is here!” and “If socialized medicine is best, then why didn’t Ted Kennedy go to Canada?” Kennedy (D-Mass.) is currently battling brain cancer.

At another meeting, the likeness of a Maryland congressman was hanged in effigy. At still another, the tombstone of a Texas congressman was displayed.

Democrats, who now control both houses in Congress as well as the White House, blame a conservative cabal they contend is producing a movement posing as grassroots — "astroturf," they are calling it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) have called the protests "un-American." In a USA Today opinion piece they charged that "an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue."

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) also charged, “This is clearly being orchestrated, and these folks have instructions. They come down from a Texas lobbyist in Washington.” Durbin defended a plan by the White House which has raised hackles on its own, to track and rebut "rumors" about the president's health care plan. Republicans contend that this is an effort to intimidate opponents of Obama-style healthcare reform.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) calls such allegations "absurd." He told Fox News Sunday, "I think attacking citizens in our country for expressing their opinions about an issue of this magnitude may indicate some weakness in their position on the merits. And I also think it's particularly absurd for Democrats, who have over an $8 million email list over at the DNC [Democratic National Committee] called Organize America, to be criticizing citizens for being organized."

"Frankly," McConnell concluded, "the truth of the matter is we don't know who's organized and who isn't. The point is the issue, the substance. They need to deal with it. Americans are concerned about it."

Members of the left have been using disruptive tactics for years, especially against conservative speakers on college and university campuses. These protests are generally orchestrated by outsiders. It is interesting that liberals would cry foul when conservatives, many of whom see themselves as locked out of the national conversation, adopt these very same methods.

Worst of all, many in Congress do appear not to have read the bill, placing them at a disadvantage in discussing with constituents what it does or does not contain. The White House has put up a website contending that allegations, e.g., about health care rationing, or mandatory end-of-life counseling for the elderly, are false.

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At another meeting, the likeness of a Maryland congressman was hanged in effigy. At still another, the tombstone of a Texas congressman was displayed.

Gotta love the creativity.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) have called the protests "un-American." In a USA Today opinion piece they charged that "an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue."

It's not our constituents doing this it's, it's, it's those evil other guys!

The White House has put up a website contending that allegations, e.g., about health care rationing, or mandatory end-of-life counseling for the elderly, are false.

Right, that's why people site which page they are so people can look it up.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-10   22:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1) (Edited)

The White House has put up a website contending that allegations, e.g., about health care rationing, or mandatory end-of-life counseling for the elderly, are false.

Right, that's why people site which page they are so people can look it up.

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but the Obamessiah said it weren't true?

He wouldn't lie to us (again) would he?

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-11   1:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

He wouldn't lie to us (again) would he?

Certainly not. He is too selfrighteous to do that.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-11   1:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#0)

Democrats, who now control both houses in Congress as well as the White House, blame a conservative cabal they contend is producing a movement posing as grassroots — "astroturf," they are calling it.

Based on what I've seen so far, they are following Lenin's advice.

"Accuse others of what you do."

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-08-11   1:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mirage (#4)

Based on what I've seen so far, they are following Lenin's advice.

"Accuse others of what you do."

This tic-for-tac tactic is abusive to most people. Where are the responsible people that can tell us what the actual government agenda is all about? Can we find them in government? Can we find them in the MSM? Can we find them anywhere?

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-11   2:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#0)

What Causes $1.2 Trillion Of Healthcare Waste?

Lawrence Delevingne|Aug. 10, 2009, 4:14 PM|62

PrintTags: Economy, Health, Doctors, Hospitals, Congress, White House,

Politics, Barack Obama, U.S. Government

We all know there's plenty of waste in American health care, but does $1.2 trillion -- more than half of annual spending -- really go down the drain? Looks that way.

A new report from consultancy PricewaterhouseCoopers identifies how the $1.2 trillion in annual waste breaks down. CNNMoney.com identifies six areas totaling nearly $500 billion that stand out as issues to be dealt with in the health care reform debate:

Too many tests -- $210 billion a year wasted

Inefficient claim processing -- $210 billion

Using the ER as a clinic -- $14 billion

Medical errors -- $17 billion

Discharged patients too soon -- $25 billion

Infections from hospital stays -- $3 billion

Other areas of waste mentioned in the report are "up to $493 billion related to risky behavior such as smoking, obesity and alcohol abuse, $21 billion in staffing turnover, $4 billion in prescriptions written on paper, and $1 billion in the over-prescribing of antibiotics."

It's easier to identify waste, of course, than to figure out how to eliminate it. Don't worry, Washington will figure all that out.

www.businessinsider.com/w...of-healthcare-waste-2009- 8

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2009-08-11   6:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Kamala (#6)

"up to $493 billion related to risky behavior such as smoking, obesity and alcohol abuse

Let's take that steaming pile to its logical conclusion: Living is "risky behavior." Eliminate the living and you eliminate the expenses.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-08-11   7:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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