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Title: Both FR and Liberty Pole are down
Source: me
URL Source: http://me
Published: Aug 11, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-08-11 14:52:52 by longnose gar
Keywords: None
Views: 37100
Comments: 582

Somebody sabotage them?

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#1. To: longnose gar (#0)

Somebody sabotage them?

One can only hope.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-11   15:01:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Freekerville is just trying to scare the marks into paying the grift a little faster.

Goldi's site is sinking under the weight of the massive stupidity that's taken the place over. Plus, she doesn't pay her ISP bills any more.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   15:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Goldi's site is sinking under the weight of the massive stupidity that's taken the place over. Plus, she doesn't pay her ISP bills any more.

Becareful what you wish for.

Because, if LP goes down for good. A lot of LPers are moving over here, increasing the load on this server.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-11   17:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Becareful what you wish for.

Because, if LP goes down for good. A lot of LPers are moving over here, increasing the load on this server.

I don't recall wishing for that.

However, it is a little different over here. We don't ban people who disagree with each other to protect free speech like Goldi does.

Also, paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   17:16:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it is a little different over here. We don't ban people who disagree with each other to protect free speech like Goldi does.

Yeah, you're a credentialed 0bama-shill....

But even they and some disruptors still post at LP. Other more obvious shills and disrupters contributed mice-turds while personally insulting the Hostess. See how long Christine would put up with the same.

Also, paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here.

Lol, "Paid"?? With what flimsy evidence do you make such a frivolous claim?? Paid by whom? Mossad?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   17:29:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

when are you going to start posting proof with your allegations?

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-08-11   17:34:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

when are you going to start posting proof with your allegations?

The so-called "allegations" are WHAT again, Counselor?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   17:47:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The so-called "allegations" are WHAT again, Counselor?

Maybe this one against me, for starters: "Yeah, you're a credentialed 0bama-shill.... "

Typical LP poster crap. Disagree with someone, so you immediately label them.

As far as Marguerite goes, it's my opinion that she's a paid shill. That's what these sites are for, opinions.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   17:54:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ME: "The so-called 'allegations' are WHAT again, Counselor?"

Maybe this one against me, for starters: "Yeah, you're a credentialed 0bama-shill.... "

Typical LP poster crap. Disagree with someone, so you immediately label them.

As opposed to your presumptions and labels "Paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here."?

Pot meet Kettle.

And btw, I'm STILL waiting for you to back up your assertion that "[LP] is sinking under the weight of the massive stupidity that's taken the place over and justify IT.

Moreover, just how do you know, "she [Goldi] doesn't pay her ISP bills any more."?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   18:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As opposed to your presumptions and labels "Paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here."?

I can guaranteeshe wouldn't like it here.

For one, Goldi won't be here protecting her ass.

For another, Israel isn't held in such high esteem here.

BTW, you've also made my point about the "massive stupidity" over at LP if you weren't aware of her financial problems supporting the site.

You're supposed to be kicking her some money, you know.

There wasn't much of a financial problem there until she began banning all of the posters who didn't agree with her views on Sarah Palin and the Obama BC issue. I'm guessing that they were the ones who helped her pay the bills, and now that they're gone it's up to people like you.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   19:24:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I can guaranteeshe wouldn't like it here.

For one, Goldi won't be here protecting her [Marguerite's] ass.

Got news for you Bub; Marguerite doesn't need any cyber-body guard - much less the notion that Goldi somehow "protects" her.

I don't always see eye to eye with her, but however you feel about Marg, she is one bright and witty poster - and an asset to a forum.

For another, Israel isn't held in such high esteem here.

I've noticed.

BTW, you've also made my point about the "massive stupidity" over at LP if you weren't aware of her financial problems supporting the site....You're supposed to be kicking her some money, you know.

Ok, FINALLY we find out what the mysterious "massive stupidity" was about: Sorting out worn out equipment and bills. It happens. It's not like it's Goldi's full-time job like JR. Btw, I don't mind helping out on the expense.

There wasn't much of a financial problem there until she began banning all of the posters who didn't agree with her views on Sarah Palin and the Obama BC issue. I'm guessing that they were the ones who helped her pay the bills, and now that they're gone it's up to people like you.

"Palin amd the BC issue? You're yankin' my chain, right? Well, if you're serious, that'd be bullsh*t guess. The posters banned were malcontent leftists, vampires, klowns, and disruptors who'd have never given a dime in ANY case.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   20:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Marguerite doesn't need any cyber-body guard - much less the notion that Goldi somehow "protects" her.

I don't always see eye to eye with her, but however you feel about Marg, she is one bright and witty poster - and an asset to a forum.

Egads, I need some waders to get through this bovine excrement. Just the other day Marg was advocating spitting on Christians.

Why do you feel the need to be her cyber-body guard? The little troll hides behind the bozo filter every time anybody calls her out on her idiocy or runs to hide under Goldi's skirt. Marge is a dimwit, a coward, a religious bigot and a foreign shrill. It takes very little scratching of the surface of Marg for her to reveal these truths, which contradicts any notion of bright.

abraxas  posted on  2009-08-11   20:15:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Egads, I need some waders to get through this bovine excrement. Just the other day Marg was advocating spitting on Christians.

Yes, that was sh*tty and I took her to task for it.

Shall I Black List everyone I have a tiff with?

Why do you feel the need to be her cyber-body guard?

HUH??

The little troll hides behind the bozo filter every time anybody calls her out on her idiocy...

You hold a funny perspective. Klowns and morons aren't worth my time either, although I just ignore nitwits; Btw, "trolls" have bozo'd me - are they "trolls" as well?

Marge is a dimwit, a coward, a religious bigot and a foreign shrill. It takes very little scratching of the surface of Marg for her to reveal these truths, which contradicts any notion of bright

She may be a religious bigot, but she's more "American" than several posters I've seen both at LP and here = and on the RIGHT side of most of the issues. IMO she'd kick your @ss in a one-on-one debate with half a brain tied behind her back.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   20:28:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

IMO she'd kick your @ss in a one-on-one debate with half a brain tied behind her back.

I've already kicked her ass up one side and down the other. She had to go and cower behind the bozo filter. She only creeps out now and again to tattle, snivel and whine. How can anybody debate with a cowardly dimwit troll who runs away instead of standing her ground on ANY issue?

You play dumb on the cyber-body guard game you play for Marge as you defend her as "American." She's not American at all. You would have to be a complete dunce to argue otherwise. You and Marge must be birds of a feather, not too bright bantering about how bright you are, cowering behind the bozo filter every time another poster reveals your stupidity. A typical post from Marge entails STFU or GFU, yet you claim she has wit and his bright. It's obvious to anybody with an iota of intellegence that Marg is a troll and not

abraxas  posted on  2009-08-11   21:00:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've already kicked her ass up one side and down the other

I'm supposed to buy THAT? NO SALE.

She had to go and cower behind the bozo filter.

I can see why.

She only creeps out now and again to tattle, snivel and whine. How can anybody debate with a cowardly dimwit troll who runs away instead of standing her ground on ANY issue?

Lemme guess - The "issue" was Israel? Jooos? Ad hominims? Ad Nauseam.

You play dumb on the cyber-body guard game you play for Marge as you defend her as "American."

She's not American at all. You would have to be a complete dunce to argue otherwise.

No kidding; I never claimed she was "American"; I said she was "more American" than several posters (who are.)

You and Marge must be birds of a feather, not too bright bantering about how bright you are, cowering behind the bozo filter every time another poster reveals your stupidity. A typical post from Marge entails STFU or GFU, yet you claim she has wit and his bright. It's obvious to anybody with an iota of intellegence that Marg is a troll and not

Ooo-kay. You got your rant against Marguerite off your chest. I get it - you're an obsessed twit.

Thank you for the exchange.

At least be honest about reality instead bullsh*tting.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   21:10:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ooo-kay. You got your rant against Marguerite off your chest. I get it - you're an obsessed twit.

I cant stand that **** because of her racial paranoia. She hates paleocons and libertarians more than the "liberals" she claims to hate. Fishy if you ask me.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-08-11   21:32:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I cant stand that **** because of her racial paranoia. She hates paleocons and libertarians more than the "liberals" she claims to hate. Fishy if you ask me.

Hmmm...

I'M a paleocon with a tinge of libertarian, and I haven't gotten that "hate" vibe.

Yeah, she's overly defensive about Israel, not as empathetic of Christians as I'd like, but then again, some folks here are over the top in their animus towards Jews.

What I see? She SOLIDLY opposes 0bama, socialism, and the Left. And she is a battler and bright - whether she's liked or not.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   21:39:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

She SOLIDLY opposes 0bama, socialism, and the Left.

She may oppose Obama, but she only opposes socialism and the country's move to the left when the Democans are in power. When the Republicrats are in power, she wholeheartedly embraces both socialism and the republican left. Or maybe you missed the numerous drama queen meltdowns she had because many of those on LP refused to fall for the McCain/Palin big government Kool-aide.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-11   22:03:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

She may oppose Obama, but she only opposes socialism and the country's move to the left when the Democans are in power. When the Republicrats are in power, she wholeheartedly embraces both socialism and the republican left.

As "Marguerite"? At LP? FR? Pro-RINO?

Which statist programs did she embrace (that you can recall?)

Or maybe you missed the numerous drama queen meltdowns she had because many of those on LP refused to fall for the McCain/Palin big government Kool-aide.

Well, the way I saw it, McCain was a nut. A despicable nut and Pro-Big Gubmint illegal-lovin' CFR-RINO. Still, when OPTION B is the racist-Marxist 0bama, we were cornered. I did not vote, although preferred the Republicrat ticket.

Palin played along with McCain IMO and didn't actually see eye to eye with him. I looked at her as a viable option (in the event McStain bought the farm), and an infinitely more conservative and anti-statist figurehead than McStain. It was my hope she'd lead a conservative "revolution" of sorts.

Ergo, considering Marguerite's position regarding the election, it was Rock vs. Hard Place.

The Big Picture? We're in trouble. The CFR-NWO Elites control BOTH parties. 0bama's accelerating the Elites' NWO fascist agenda.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   22:22:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Which statist programs did she embrace (that you can recall?)

As I remember it, she was pretty anti-Bush/anti-Republican during some of Bush's first term but at some point in time she did a complete turn around and became a pure unadulterated Bushbot and embraced the complete big government Bush/Republican agenda, with one exception and that was illegal immigration. If I were to have to guess when that point in time was then I would say it was around the time when she stabbed Neil in the back by siding with Badeye.

Ergo, considering Marguerite's position regarding the election, it was Rock vs. Hard Place.

My understanding is that Marguerite is a European and not an American. Regardless, IMO, neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States and would sell us out in a New York minute if they thought that it would help Israel. IMHO that's why the three of them are going berserk over Obama. It has nothing at all to do with what Obama and the Democans are planning for this country and everything to do with how they believe his administration will affect Israel.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-11   22:41:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#148. To: Hayek Fan (#140)

i remember her change at about the time the Iraq war started. Goldi was all for it. her and Neil's dissention occurred several months after that. her defense of Badeye and others (some Clowns) over him was the final nail. it was at that time that unamused and I left and created FU. almost all the anti-war folks left LP for FU.

christine  posted on  2009-08-11 23:07:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As I remember it, she was pretty anti-Bush/anti-Republican during some of Bush's first term but at some point in time she did a complete turn around and became a pure unadulterated Bushbot and embraced the complete big government Bush/Republican agenda, with one exception and that was illegal immigration. If I were to have to guess when that point in time was then I would say it was around the time when she stabbed Neil in the back by siding with Badeye.

I wasn't privy to the internal politics at LP with respect to Badeye or Neil...

Could be that Marguerite is still evolving politically - who knows. Sounds more moderate Republican.

My understanding is that Marguerite is a European and not an American. Regardless, IMO, neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States and would sell us out in a New York minute if they thought that it would help Israel. IMHO that's why the three of them are going berserk over Obama. It has nothing at all to do with what Obama and the Democans are planning for this country and everything to do with how they believe his administration will affect Israel.

My impression of Marguerite is also that she's European.

I have to disagree with your characterization that "neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States"; I believe that do quite a bit. At the same time, yes, I realize that they are all passionately pro-Israel. Would they sell us out to Israel? Marg would probably lean Israel if she had to choose. Goldi and Magician are Americans....

For whatever reason or motivation, 0bama is despised by all of them.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12 00:02:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Regardless, IMO, neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States and would sell us out in a New York minute if they thought that it would help Israel. IMHO that's why the three of them are going berserk over Obama. It has nothing at all to do with what Obama and the Democans are planning for this country and everything to do with how they believe his administration will affect Israel.

I think you overstate it a bit.

For them, Israel is primary but resisting American socialism and the advance of big-government relates to a government powerful enough and Dim-dominated enough that they could cut off Israel from foreign aid or impose "peace" on Israel in ways that aid-greedy and landgrabbing Israeli Likudists would not welcome.

The neocon-Likudist alliance and agenda is what seems primary here. I think Magician posts a lot of bogus conspiracy articles from Debka and other phony sources just to fan the evangelical apocalyptic flames, a stronger tactic than many would suspect. It is intended to create a site with strongly pro-Israel tendencies that will place Israel's importance and welfare on a par with the States. Israel is actually more important than even Britain, the so-called special relationship. If Britain is a country with a "special relationship" with us, then Israel has an "unquestionable relationship", something that cannot be discussed as we would discuss relations with any other nation in the world. This is no accident and is the result of a deliberate campaign of many decades to create what is essentially a mind-block in public policy discussion on the topic of Israel.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-08-12 10:29:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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