Title: Both FR and Liberty Pole are down Source:
me URL Source:http://me Published:Aug 11, 2009 Author:me Post Date:2009-08-11 14:52:52 by longnose gar Keywords:None Views:37100 Comments:582
As I remember it, she was pretty anti-Bush/anti-Republican during some of Bush's first term but at some point in time she did a complete turn around and became a pure unadulterated Bushbot and embraced the complete big government Bush/Republican agenda, with one exception and that was illegal immigration. If I were to have to guess when that point in time was then I would say it was around the time when she stabbed Neil in the back by siding with Badeye.
I wasn't privy to the internal politics at LP with respect to Badeye or Neil...
Could be that Marguerite is still evolving politically - who knows. Sounds more moderate Republican.
My understanding is that Marguerite is a European and not an American. Regardless, IMO, neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States and would sell us out in a New York minute if they thought that it would help Israel. IMHO that's why the three of them are going berserk over Obama. It has nothing at all to do with what Obama and the Democans are planning for this country and everything to do with how they believe his administration will affect Israel.
My impression of Marguerite is also that she's European.
I have to disagree with your characterization that "neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States"; I believe that do quite a bit. At the same time, yes, I realize that they are all passionately pro-Israel. Would they sell us out to Israel? Marg would probably lean Israel if she had to choose. Goldi and Magician are Americans....
For whatever reason or motivation, 0bama is despised by all of them.
#169. To: F16Fighter, FormerLurker, aristeides, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz (#48)
She has destroyed her own site as a viable forum though her insane attachment to Shittylittlestan and being unable to entertain dissenting viewpoints. I believe her to have been co-opted, whether for money or her insane and deluded attachment for the Criminal State, somewhere along the line.
How did I miss this?
You're an intelligent poster, OI. But everyone has their biases and blind-spots.
Rarely have so many erroneous presumptions been condensed into two sentences. I understand your bitterness, but you can't be paying much attention lately to the discourse over at LP.
FWIW, I would deem BOTH the discourse at FR as well as here as "viable."
Not bitterness, disgust. I despise liars and hypocrites and Goldi-Pox is both. Goldi has systematically eliminated dissenting voices upon little or no pretext - and speak not only of my own banning (aristeides and FormerLurker come to mind and I know there have been others since). I was not banned for any breach of the forum rules but for pointing out that Goldi was in violation of her own alleged standards. So, she either had to admit and recant or take the coward's way out and ban those who were not content to let the matter remain un-noted. She followed the path of the dishonest and banned the dissent.
Pro-Israel Posters such as yukon and Buttsmeller (and she invited Byteshredder over to combat what she perceived as "anti-Israel" posters i.e., those who did not excuse Shittylittlestan for acting like the 3rd Reich of the Middle East gaining the upper hand by the foul device of posting the truth) are allowed a free pass for any violation of forum rules and are routinely discourteous, threatening, and add nothing to the discussion other than vitriol and disinformation. I judge Goldi-Pox by the company she keeps as much as by her own hypocritical actions.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#171. To: F16Fighter, Hayek Fan, HOUNDDAWG, bluegrass (#164)
If Marguerite is who I think she is i.e., the same person who posted as IsobelK on LF then she is an English ex-pat living in Deutschland.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Good evening. Since I don't recognize your handle I presume we have met under "other circumstances"? No?
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#179. To: Original_Intent, F16Fighter, Hayek Fan, HOUNDDAWG, bluegrass (#171)
If Marguerite is who I think she is i.e., the same person who posted as IsobelK on LF then she is an English ex-pat living in Deutschland.
I keep hearing different things about who she is.
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
Did you see that she posted the article saying LP is down?
That would seem to add credence to the Marguerite = Goldi-Pox equation.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
If Marguerite is who I think she is i.e., the same person who posted as IsobelK on LF then she is an English ex-pat living in Deutschland.
I keep hearing different things about who she is.
She actually, when I think about it, reminds me more of another poster on LF who was a nasty ill mannered female Israbot.
'DAWG and bluegrass likely know who I'm talking about but I can't remember the name she posted under. And it wasn't Cent_Scrotumator.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Yes I saw it. I am not convinced though. The posting style and language remind me of that poster on LF I mentioned and I just cannot bring back the name. Same sort of nastt snippy Israel First rhetoric.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
I was banned back during Goldi's anti-Ron Paul rant.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Regardless, IMO, neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States and would sell us out in a New York minute if they thought that it would help Israel. IMHO that's why the three of them are going berserk over Obama. It has nothing at all to do with what Obama and the Democans are planning for this country and everything to do with how they believe his administration will affect Israel.
I think you overstate it a bit.
For them, Israel is primary but resisting American socialism and the advance of big-government relates to a government powerful enough and Dim-dominated enough that they could cut off Israel from foreign aid or impose "peace" on Israel in ways that aid-greedy and landgrabbing Israeli Likudists would not welcome.
The neocon-Likudist alliance and agenda is what seems primary here. I think Magician posts a lot of bogus conspiracy articles from Debka and other phony sources just to fan the evangelical apocalyptic flames, a stronger tactic than many would suspect. It is intended to create a site with strongly pro-Israel tendencies that will place Israel's importance and welfare on a par with the States. Israel is actually more important than even Britain, the so-called special relationship. If Britain is a country with a "special relationship" with us, then Israel has an "unquestionable relationship", something that cannot be discussed as we would discuss relations with any other nation in the world. This is no accident and is the result of a deliberate campaign of many decades to create what is essentially a mind-block in public policy discussion on the topic of Israel.
Maybe, maybe not. There is the question of how Marguerite was able to post on LP when it was taken offline. I guess that Goldi could have given her access. Then again,...
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 19731976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Maybe in the case of Goldi I am but I do not believe I am in the case of Marg or Magician. IMHO Magician is an outright traitor to his country who is actually proud of the fact that his daughter moved to Israel and joined the Israeli army and then moved back after she was finished. He sees nothing wrong with this, although he would be the first person to condemn an American of Iranian descent (or any other descent) whose child did the same thing. I find both him and his daughter despicable. I can't help but wonder what type of intel training she received from the Israeli government that she is using against the United States as we speak.
Then of course there is the fact that Magician screams anti-Semite anytime someone says something about Israel that he doesn't like, while at the same time posting as many anti-Christian screeds that he can find - and doesn't see the hypocrisy.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 19731976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
I knew that LP was heading down this road when my contribution to the last fund raiser comprised such a large % of what she said was raised. At the time of the last funder, I sent Goldi an email telling her that I would talk to her ISP people about working out a deal and arranging through a third party buddy of mine equipment upgrades that she could pay off over time on her own schedule...I told her that such an offer would come "no strings" but I never heard back from her...but she did always thank me for my money.
As for her moderating "skills". They were far too subject to caprice. I don't believe that she ever put the site above her own ego and, in the end, it did not serve her well. There was absolutely no reason to ban High Hopes, Ntter, Belmont and soo many others to numerous to name. I watched PipeBomb go down due to the bias of the moderator...therein lies the lesson.
As for Marguerite...it is obvious that "she" is several people posting under one account. The writing styles and level of proper usage and grammar varied greatly depending upon the time of day. ONly a fool would believe "she" was one person.