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Title: Both FR and Liberty Pole are down
Source: me
URL Source: http://me
Published: Aug 11, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-08-11 14:52:52 by longnose gar
Keywords: None
Views: 35239
Comments: 582

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#190. To: Hayek Fan (#140)

Regardless, IMO, neither Marguerite, Magician nor Goldi give a damn about the United States and would sell us out in a New York minute if they thought that it would help Israel. IMHO that's why the three of them are going berserk over Obama. It has nothing at all to do with what Obama and the Democans are planning for this country and everything to do with how they believe his administration will affect Israel.

I think you overstate it a bit.

For them, Israel is primary but resisting American socialism and the advance of big-government relates to a government powerful enough and Dim-dominated enough that they could cut off Israel from foreign aid or impose "peace" on Israel in ways that aid-greedy and landgrabbing Israeli Likudists would not welcome.

The neocon-Likudist alliance and agenda is what seems primary here. I think Magician posts a lot of bogus conspiracy articles from Debka and other phony sources just to fan the evangelical apocalyptic flames, a stronger tactic than many would suspect. It is intended to create a site with strongly pro-Israel tendencies that will place Israel's importance and welfare on a par with the States. Israel is actually more important than even Britain, the so-called special relationship. If Britain is a country with a "special relationship" with us, then Israel has an "unquestionable relationship", something that cannot be discussed as we would discuss relations with any other nation in the world. This is no accident and is the result of a deliberate campaign of many decades to create what is essentially a mind-block in public policy discussion on the topic of Israel.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-08-12   10:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: wudidiz (#188)

Hi, lucysmom. Welcome.

Who were you banned for being?

Thank you.

A paid or volunteer shill for Acorn.

lucysmom  posted on  2009-08-12   11:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: lucysmom (#185)

I was banned for supposedly doing something I didn't do.

I was banned for being somebody I'm not.

Lucysmom, welcome! You are another former leper among former lepers.

I was banned for pointing out that yukon gets to immediately and flagrantly break Goldi-lox's new bannable rule.

High Hopes  posted on  2009-08-12   11:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: X-15 (#186)

I was banned back during Goldi's anti-Ron Paul rant.

Wrong side of a debate? Then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFIVNwiq8ls&NR=1

lucysmom  posted on  2009-08-12   11:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: F16Fighter (#166)

Naah. Totally different personalities.

Maybe, maybe not. There is the question of how Marguerite was able to post on LP when it was taken offline. I guess that Goldi could have given her access. Then again,...

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-12   11:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: High Hopes (#192)

I was banned for pointing out that yukon gets to immediately and flagrantly break Goldi-lox's new bannable rule.

No...

You were banned for baiting the Hostess REPEATEDLY and committing LP-cide. Remember?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   11:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: F16Fighter (#195)

Shaddup libby, you big fat whiner.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-08-12   11:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: F16Fighter (#195)

So admit (through cowardly omission, naturally) that Goldi-lox's new rule (sic) was complete BS?

Good job, F16. Everyone know's Goldi-lox's new bannable rule (sic) was BS, whether you are too dishonest to admit it or not.

High Hopes  posted on  2009-08-12   11:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: TooConservative (#190)

I think you overstate it a bit.

Maybe in the case of Goldi I am but I do not believe I am in the case of Marg or Magician. IMHO Magician is an outright traitor to his country who is actually proud of the fact that his daughter moved to Israel and joined the Israeli army and then moved back after she was finished. He sees nothing wrong with this, although he would be the first person to condemn an American of Iranian descent (or any other descent) whose child did the same thing. I find both him and his daughter despicable. I can't help but wonder what type of intel training she received from the Israeli government that she is using against the United States as we speak.

Then of course there is the fact that Magician screams anti-Semite anytime someone says something about Israel that he doesn't like, while at the same time posting as many anti-Christian screeds that he can find - and doesn't see the hypocrisy.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-12   11:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: High Hopes (#192)

Lucysmom, welcome!

I was banned for pointing out that yukon gets to immediately and flagrantly break Goldi-lox's new bannable rule.

Thank you.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." Embrace it or be gone.

lucysmom  posted on  2009-08-12   12:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: F16Fighter, High Hopes, all (#195)

No...

You were banned for baiting the Hostess REPEATEDLY and committing LP-cide. Remember?

Huh.

Liberator.

Who are you liberating?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-12   12:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: longnose gar (#0)

I knew that LP was heading down this road when my contribution to the last fund raiser comprised such a large % of what she said was raised. At the time of the last funder, I sent Goldi an email telling her that I would talk to her ISP people about working out a deal and arranging through a third party buddy of mine equipment upgrades that she could pay off over time on her own schedule...I told her that such an offer would come "no strings" but I never heard back from her...but she did always thank me for my money.

As for her moderating "skills". They were far too subject to caprice. I don't believe that she ever put the site above her own ego and, in the end, it did not serve her well. There was absolutely no reason to ban High Hopes, Ntter, Belmont and soo many others to numerous to name. I watched PipeBomb go down due to the bias of the moderator...therein lies the lesson.

As for Marguerite...it is obvious that "she" is several people posting under one account. The writing styles and level of proper usage and grammar varied greatly depending upon the time of day. ONly a fool would believe "she" was one person.

war  posted on  2009-08-12   12:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: F16Fighter (#195)

You were a routine rule violator yourself, Lieby.

war  posted on  2009-08-12   12:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Hayek Fan (#194)

There is the question of how Marguerite was able to post on LP when it was taken offline. I guess that Goldi could have given her access.

Simple conclusion.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   12:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: Fred Mertz (#196)

Shaddup libby, you big fat whiner.

Hi Fred.

How's the trolling under the grandstand been for man-meat?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   12:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: High Hopes (#197)

So admit (through cowardly omission, naturally) that Goldi-lox's new rule (sic) was complete BS?

I realize you're too stoopid to realize it High-On-Dope, but abusing the hospitality of the Hostess isn't a brilliant move. UNLESS you wanted to leave anyway (which was obvious.)

After everything is said and done, you're neither a martyr or hero. Just an 0bama tool and troll.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   12:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: F16Fighter (#204)

Hi Fred.

All homo talk all of the time.... that's our liberator!

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-12   12:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: wudidiz (#200)

Huh.

Liberator.

Who are you liberating?

B-24 Liberator. Get it now, sweetie?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   12:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: war (#202)

You were a routine rule violator yourself, Lieby.

Don't you have a fetus that needs to be disposed of in a dumpster?

Btw, you do now you're a coward - right, BOZO?

LOL...

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   12:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: F16Fighter (#208)

My reasons for bozoing anyone were made clear...posting the same response over and over and over no matter what the topic...no matter what the issue got you there.

war  posted on  2009-08-12   13:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: F16Fighter (#208)

Btw, you do now you're a coward - right, BOZO?

Cowardice is hiding behind a screen name, Lieby. You wouldn;t even admit who you were at LP - obvious as it is...

war  posted on  2009-08-12   13:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: war (#201)

There was absolutely no reason to ban High Hopes...

No, not at all.

I guess YOU would have taken the abuse if it were your forum? Chyeah.

I sent Goldi an email telling her that I would talk to her ISP people about working out a deal and arranging through a third party buddy of mine equipment upgrades that she could pay off over time on her own schedule...I told her that such an offer would come "no strings" but I never heard back from her...but she did always thank me for my money.

Wasn't it you who just graciously thanked Goldi for a site you "appreciated" just a week or two ago?...

Now you're inferring that you were conned into voluntarily donated?; Insulted that your magnanimous offer to "help" was spurned? (sob, sniffle)

You've made it clear why she rejected your hand. I'd say her judgment in this case was righteous.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   13:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: war (#210)

Cowardice is hiding behind a screen name, Lieby. You wouldn;t even admit who you were at LP - obvious as it is...

Lol...yeah..."hiding."

Was it a Spider Hole or behind the BOZO filter again? I forget.

Your schtick has gotten tiring in any case, war. Playing the contrarian sh*t-stirrer is amusing only when you can manage more than a grain of truth.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   13:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: High Hopes (#192)

I was banned for pointing out that yukon gets to immediately and flagrantly break Goldi-lox's new bannable rule.

Yes, according to Goldi you were trying to "censor" the forum.

What really cracked me up about her was when she threatened to ban JohnA for being a foreigner trying to influence US affairs but completely ignored the obnoxious Marguerite for doing the same thing in spades.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-12   13:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: F16Fighter (#203)

There is the question of how Marguerite was able to post on LP when it was taken offline. I guess that Goldi could have given her access.

Simple conclusion.

It is also just as simple to conclude that Marg and Goldie are one and the same person. In the end we'll never really know, so there is no reason to argue about it, and surely no reason to become enemies over. While I still read the articles on LP (more traffic and articles there than here), I quit posting there when Goldi banned pro RP articles while continuing to allow anti-RP articles. Her site, her rules.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-12   13:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#213)

What really cracked me up about her was when she threatened to ban JohnA for being a foreigner trying to influence US affairs but completely ignored the obnoxious Marguerite for doing the same thing in spades.

JohnA = LEFT

Marguerite = RIGHT

Goldi is on the political Right.

Is this that hard to figure out?

MEMO:

Owning a forum means wielding discretionary power.

POSTING at a forum mean knowing where that limitation is.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   13:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: Hayek Fan (#214)

It is also just as simple to conclude that Marg and Goldie are one and the same person.

I disagree. Again, IMO their personalities are uniquely different.

In the end we'll never really know, so there is no reason to argue about it, and surely no reason to become enemies over.

I appreciate a civil debate and honest disagreement.

While I still read the articles on LP (more traffic and articles there than here), I quit posting there when Goldi banned pro RP articles while continuing to allow anti-RP articles. Her site, her rules.

FWIW, I did not agree with her restrictions regarding RP, but yeah, it's her puppy.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-12   13:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: F16Fighter (#205)

I realize you're too stoopid to realize it High-On-Dope, but abusing the hospitality of the Hostess isn't a brilliant move. UNLESS you wanted to leave anyway (which was obvious.)

After everything is said and done, you're neither a martyr or hero. Just an 0bama tool and troll.

... and yet, here you are, another stupid troll, trying to fight the world.

Coming from a perrenial loser like yourself, anyone would consider your words compliments, butt-liberator.

High Hopes  posted on  2009-08-12   13:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: war, F16Fighter, all (#212)

Your schtick has gotten tiring in any case, war. Playing the contrarian sh*t-stirrer is amusing only when you can manage more than a grain of truth.

Anyone else spot the irony?

High Hopes  posted on  2009-08-12   13:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: F16Fighter (#215)

Marguerite = RIGHT Goldi is on the political Right

Both Marg and Goldi have expressed need for special reparations for American Indians. I don't consider that to be a right wing issue.

Marg wants our kids to die for and our money to pay to fight for Israeli causes, unless called on it then she will back down temporarily. Certainly not another right wing issue, unless you considered JFK to be another right winger.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-12   13:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: High Hopes (#218)

Anyone else spot the irony?

That and the asshole.

war  posted on  2009-08-12   13:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: F16Fighter (#215)

JohnA = LEFT

Marguerite = RIGHT

Goldi is on the political Right.

Is this that hard to figure out?

MEMO:

Owning a forum means wielding discretionary power.

POSTING at a forum mean knowing where that limitation is.

... and here goes a pathetic fuck vehemently defending thename "Liberty Post".

Keep posting, butt-liberator. Everything you write is a joke.

High Hopes  posted on  2009-08-12   13:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: war, F16Fighter, all (#211)

F16Fighter: You've made it clear why she rejected your hand. I'd say her judgment in this case was righteous.

Somewhere in this, a tough guy claiming to fly fighter jets defends the name "Liberty Post".

"Liberator" for "Liberty Post": akin to shameless lap dog for the censorship of ideas that don't align Goldi's political leanings.

The critics are split between butt-liberator aka F16Fighter being a ragged comdey or a brainless satire.

High Hopes  posted on  2009-08-12   13:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: High Hopes, war, F16Fighter, all (#218)

Your schtick has gotten tiring in any case, war. Playing the contrarian sh*t-stirrer is amusing only when you can manage more than a grain of truth.

Anyone else spot the irony?

I do! I do!


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-12   13:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: F16Fighter (#216)

FWIW, I did not agree with her restrictions regarding RP, but yeah, it's her puppy.

You never said a word on LP just like you never said a word in defense to JR when FF and AO were banned. In fact I think you helped set them up.

Face it..... you basically prefer to defer to authority. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-12   13:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: F16Fighter (#215)

JohnA = LEFT

Marguerite = RIGHT

Goldi is on the political Right.

Is this that hard to figure out?

No, what's hard to figure out is the lie on her home page saying all points of view are welcome and no political point of view will be censored.

Why not just change that to say only people who agree with her are welcome on this forum?

Too honest?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-12   14:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: F16Fighter (#207)

B-24 Liberator. Get it now, sweetie?

Sweetie, eh?

hahahahaha...

I see you bring the spirit of LP with you.

Maybe all that shit running out of your mouth is a result of having your tongue stuck up Goldi's ass.

Sweetie.

Fuck you.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-08-12   14:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#225)

...saying all points of view are welcome and no political point of view will be censored.

We seemed to reach a point there where just disagreeing with a POV that was congruent to Goldi's was "censorship".

war  posted on  2009-08-12   14:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: war (#227)

We seemed to reach a point there where just disagreeing with a POV that was congruent to Goldi's was "censorship".

That's what got Rhino banned.

He argued his points too well and pissed off the geezers like reaganisright.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-12   14:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: war, F16fighter, All LP refugees (#210) (Edited)

Cowardice is hiding behind a screen name, Lieby. You wouldn;t even admit who you were at LP - obvious as it is...

Gentlemen...

We have quite enough personal acrimony and obscene language of our own here on 4um. Most of the regular posters do try to keep a civil discussion.

Bringing in your own personal grudges is not beneficial at all.

I speak for myself, no one else, but I have endured quite enough of your "foul" for Fred. language and constant personal attacks. Endless.

Civility is still enjoyed here.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-12   14:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: Cynicom (#229)

Gentlemen...

We have quite enough personal acrimony and obscene language of our own here on 4um. Most of the regular posters do try to keep a civil discussion.

Bringing in your own personal grudges is not beneficial at all.

I speak for myself, no one else, but I have endured quite enough of your fowl language and constant personal attacks. Endless.

Civility is still enjoyed here.

Welcome to the "new" 4um.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-08-12   14:24:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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