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Title: Both FR and Liberty Pole are down
Source: me
URL Source: http://me
Published: Aug 11, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-08-11 14:52:52 by longnose gar
Keywords: None
Views: 58832
Comments: 582

Somebody sabotage them?

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#1. To: longnose gar (#0)

Somebody sabotage them?

One can only hope.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-08-11   15:01:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Freekerville is just trying to scare the marks into paying the grift a little faster.

Goldi's site is sinking under the weight of the massive stupidity that's taken the place over. Plus, she doesn't pay her ISP bills any more.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   15:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#2)

Goldi's site is sinking under the weight of the massive stupidity that's taken the place over. Plus, she doesn't pay her ISP bills any more.

Becareful what you wish for.

Because, if LP goes down for good. A lot of LPers are moving over here, increasing the load on this server.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-11   17:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: PaulCJ (#26)

Becareful what you wish for.

Because, if LP goes down for good. A lot of LPers are moving over here, increasing the load on this server.

I don't recall wishing for that.

However, it is a little different over here. We don't ban people who disagree with each other to protect free speech like Goldi does.

Also, paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   17:16:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: IDon'tThinkSo, PaulCJ, Christine (#28)

it is a little different over here. We don't ban people who disagree with each other to protect free speech like Goldi does.

Yeah, you're a credentialed 0bama-shill....

But even they and some disruptors still post at LP. Other more obvious shills and disrupters contributed mice-turds while personally insulting the Hostess. See how long Christine would put up with the same.

Also, paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here.

Lol, "Paid"?? With what flimsy evidence do you make such a frivolous claim?? Paid by whom? Mossad?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   17:29:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: F16Fighter (#30)

when are you going to start posting proof with your allegations?

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-08-11   17:34:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: IRTorqued (#34)

when are you going to start posting proof with your allegations?

The so-called "allegations" are WHAT again, Counselor?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   17:47:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: F16Fighter (#37)

The so-called "allegations" are WHAT again, Counselor?

Maybe this one against me, for starters: "Yeah, you're a credentialed 0bama-shill.... "

Typical LP poster crap. Disagree with someone, so you immediately label them.

As far as Marguerite goes, it's my opinion that she's a paid shill. That's what these sites are for, opinions.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   17:54:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#38) (Edited)

ME: "The so-called 'allegations' are WHAT again, Counselor?"

Maybe this one against me, for starters: "Yeah, you're a credentialed 0bama-shill.... "

Typical LP poster crap. Disagree with someone, so you immediately label them.

As opposed to your presumptions and labels "Paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here."?

Pot meet Kettle.

And btw, I'm STILL waiting for you to back up your assertion that "[LP] is sinking under the weight of the massive stupidity that's taken the place over and justify IT.

Moreover, just how do you know, "she [Goldi] doesn't pay her ISP bills any more."?

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   18:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: F16Fighter (#42)

As opposed to your presumptions and labels "Paid disruptors like Marguerite won't like it very much here."?

I can guaranteeshe wouldn't like it here.

For one, Goldi won't be here protecting her ass.

For another, Israel isn't held in such high esteem here.

BTW, you've also made my point about the "massive stupidity" over at LP if you weren't aware of her financial problems supporting the site.

You're supposed to be kicking her some money, you know.

There wasn't much of a financial problem there until she began banning all of the posters who didn't agree with her views on Sarah Palin and the Obama BC issue. I'm guessing that they were the ones who helped her pay the bills, and now that they're gone it's up to people like you.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-08-11   19:24:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#47)

I can guaranteeshe wouldn't like it here.

For one, Goldi won't be here protecting her [Marguerite's] ass.

Got news for you Bub; Marguerite doesn't need any cyber-body guard - much less the notion that Goldi somehow "protects" her.

I don't always see eye to eye with her, but however you feel about Marg, she is one bright and witty poster - and an asset to a forum.

For another, Israel isn't held in such high esteem here.

I've noticed.

BTW, you've also made my point about the "massive stupidity" over at LP if you weren't aware of her financial problems supporting the site....You're supposed to be kicking her some money, you know.

Ok, FINALLY we find out what the mysterious "massive stupidity" was about: Sorting out worn out equipment and bills. It happens. It's not like it's Goldi's full-time job like JR. Btw, I don't mind helping out on the expense.

There wasn't much of a financial problem there until she began banning all of the posters who didn't agree with her views on Sarah Palin and the Obama BC issue. I'm guessing that they were the ones who helped her pay the bills, and now that they're gone it's up to people like you.

"Palin amd the BC issue? You're yankin' my chain, right? Well, if you're serious, that'd be bullsh*t guess. The posters banned were malcontent leftists, vampires, klowns, and disruptors who'd have never given a dime in ANY case.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-11   20:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#461. To: F16Fighter, All (#51)

The posters banned were malcontent leftists, vampires, klowns, and disruptors who'd have never given a dime in ANY case.

Well Liberator, I thought you were actually a decent guy there for awhile, man did you have me fooled.

I suppose you consider people who supported Ron Paul, didn't perform blood dances upon hearing news of Palestinian children being burnt alive with white phosphorus, or those who presented convincing evidence that the 9/11 official fairy tale is a lie must all be "malcontent leftists, vampires, klowns, and disruptor(sic)".

My first impression of you appears to have been spot on, you're just a little infiltrator whom Goldi protected in order to survive an response from a seasoned poster, ie. she banned me when I got the best of you in a fight that YOU started.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-08-14   20:45:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: FormerLurker, IDon'tThinkSo, Big Meanie, belmontconservative, ALL (#461)

Well Liberator, I thought you were actually a decent guy there for awhile, man did you have me fooled.

It's MY fault your reading comprehension sucks?

You have had company on this thread and especially below on the following exchange:

"There wasn't much of a financial problem there until she [Goldi] began banning all of the posters who didn't agree with her views on Sarah Palin and the Obama BC issue. I'm guessing that they were the ones who helped her pay the bills, and now that they're gone it's up to people like you.

IDon'tThinkSo posted on 2009-08-11 19:24:31 ET

"Palin amd the BC issue? You're yankin' my chain, right? Well, if you're serious, that'd be bullsh*t guess. The posters banned were malcontent leftists, vampires, klowns, and disruptors who'd have never given a dime in ANY case."

F16Fighter posted on 2009-08-11 20:02:49 ET

Those banned over Palin and the BC issue were "malcontent leftists, vampires, klowns, and disruptors." ...with the exception of belmontconservative. If none of you get it or like it, that's your problem.

I suppose you consider people who supported Ron Paul, didn't perform blood dances upon hearing news of Palestinian children being burnt alive with white phosphorus, or those who presented convincing evidence that the 9/11 official fairy tale is a lie must all be "malcontent leftists, vampires, klowns, and disruptor(sic)".

Pretty kooky presumption of me, FL. Let me help you out here - YOU'RE CLUELESS.. Now what caused you to drop 50 IQ points in one disjointed sentence??

My first impression of you appears to have been spot on, you're just a little infiltrator whom Goldi protected in order to survive an response from a seasoned poster, ie. she banned me when I got the best of you in a fight that YOU started.

No, make that 75 IQ points you've dropped. You're now so dopey, I feel sorry for you. I couldn't care less what you think of me now OR then, or that you've carried around a petty grudge over bullsh*t for all this time. Wow. If it bothers you that much, I'd suggest seeing a grief counselor.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-14   22:12:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#566. To: F16Fighter, IDon'tThinkSo, Big Meanie, belmontconservative (#463)

Well there Liberator, ok, perhaps I didn't see the full text and saw what you posted out of context, but you HAVE to know for a fact Goldi banned MANY people PRIOR to Obama's Inaugeration on totally unrelated issues, such as anything which was contrary to the interests of Israel and those who profit from war and misery.

In fact, the main reasons for banning were for trying to post info on 9/11 contrary to the official fairy tale, and posting positive info on Ron Paul.

Anything raising questions concerning Israeli actions in its various hostilities and conflicts would also be cause for banning, where I was banned once for criticizing Israeli attacks on UN observers (the very topic we were on when she jumped on an excuse to ban me), and one year later when I was criticizing the push to bomb Iran (that "discussion" involved ByteShredder and Margurette). She jumped on the chance to ban me there (more than likely upon double-team emails to her from ByteShredder and Marguette).

So lately I've seen you becoming very chummy and cozying up with both of them. Then you wonder why I see you as I do.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-08-18   17:01:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#567. To: FormerLurker (#566)

Lurker, it's yours or anyone else's prerogative to regard and judge me or other posters in accordance with your own experience. Certain posters are just not going to like each other - yeah, it happens. Who I'm "chummy" with at times is irrelevant, as is vice versa. I agree with no one 100%, and I'm sure as hell no one agrees with me all the time.

I'm with you on 9/11 and believed RP threads were fine - although there was spamming. I'm also anti-UN. In ANY case. Israel can be wrong and has been on occasion - but between they and the Muslims I will NEVER take the side of Islam.

With respect to Goldi and bannings, sheeeet - it's her forum. I don't follow all who've bitten the dust. I don't follow individual beefs. Now there are a few I may have kept on that she jettisoned, but yet unloaded others she hasn't. It's NOT a Democracy. And of course the issue of Israel is important to her, thus there are limitations to the slack she extends.

Liberator  posted on  2009-08-18   17:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#569. To: F16Fighter (#567)

Israel can be wrong and has been on occasion - but between they and the Muslims I will NEVER take the side of Islam

I don't either condemn or give carte blanche to a people simply because of their religion. Israel is not Judaism, just as the Palestinian people are not Islam.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-08-18 18:27:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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