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Published: Aug 13, 2009
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One of the first things I did was post links to Irish anti-EU websites on my page...

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irishthatcherite  posted on  2009-08-13   20:07:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm curious. Are there a lot of pro-British Catholics such as yourself in Ireland? I ask because it has been my experience that the stereotypical Irishman is either an anti-British Catholic or pro-British Protestant.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-14   19:36:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm curious. Are there a lot of pro-British Catholics such as yourself in Ireland? I ask because it has been my experience that the stereotypical Irishman is either an anti-British Catholic or pro-British Protestant.

Fully 1/3rd of the 3000-officer strong Royal Ulster Constabulary positions were reserved for Catholics. And, according to wiki "The first two thousand places were filled quickly. Due to a slow recruitment rate from Catholics, the force resorted to normal recruitment in order to fill the remaining vacancies. (A Catholic in The RUC was by definition, "abnormal"?_HD) As a result, representation of Catholics in the RUC never exceeded 20% and, by the 1960s, it had a Catholic representation of 12%." '

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So, it appears that you're correct that "pro Brit Catholics" probably don't cause any traffic jams, but there were enough to demonstrate an exception to the rule. And, one can only wonder about that 12% number after Black Sunday, though.

I imagine that wearing the badge of "The Royals" after that terrible day would be like wearing a sign that reads "Muslim Jihadist and Proud Of It!" in The US after 9/11.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-08-14   20:03:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Fully 1/3rd of the 3000-officer strong Royal Ulster Constabulary positions were reserved for Catholics. And, according to wiki "The first two thousand places were filled quickly. Due to a slow recruitment rate from Catholics, the force resorted to normal recruitment in order to fill the remaining vacancies. (A Catholic in The RUC was by definition, "abnormal"?_HD) As a result, representation of Catholics in the RUC never exceeded 20% and, by the 1960s, it had a Catholic representation of 12%." '

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So, it appears that you're correct that "pro Brit Catholics" probably don't cause any traffic jams, but there were enough to demonstrate an exception to the rule. And, one can only wonder about that 12% number after Black Sunday, though.

I imagine that wearing the badge of "The Royals" after that terrible day would be like wearing a sign that reads "Muslim Jihadist and Proud Of It!" in The US after 9/11.

I will admit to being next to clueless about Ireland religious and political divisions. I knew an Irish-American from Boston when I was in the Army who claimed that real Irishmen were Catholics and hated the Brits. As an aside, he was the only white man I ever met who called himself anything other than a plain ol' American. He always referred to himself as an Irish-American. Maybe it's a Boston thing.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-14   20:10:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe it's a Boston thing.

Boston is to proud Irish Nationalists what NYC is to nice Jewish people who also proudly think of themselves as dual citizens..

Although The Big Apple has a large and unbroken legacy of Irish cops and firefighters from the beginnings of both agencies, (see NYPD EMERALD SOCIETY) Boston is also well stocked with Irishmen, probably because of proximity to the Canadian border. Some Irish who had legally immigrated to Canada found Boston more lucrative and relocated, The unintended result being ample sources of funds when the IRA needed them.

One seasoned IRA guerilla who had fought beside the martyrs could raise beau coup dinero on a fly in fundraiser, and it was probably easier to cross (or jump) the Canadian border as an undetected "INTERPOL person of interest" or even a known combatant than it was to fly into New York and get through inspections.

I would say, "Hell yes, it's a Boston thing!" And Joe Kennedy was one of the biggest liquor importers in the US and as you know the Kennedys resided in Brookline (a Boston Suburb) and Hyannis. (on Cape Cod)

Years ago some nice Italian folks told me that "Joe Kennedy lined his pockets with the blood of the Irish!", meaning that he used his own to war with Italians for control of the bootleg biz. it was their cynical view that he stirred up Irish pride to turn obscene profits.

To suggest that Italian mob bosses were sincere to fight using their own and Kennedy wasn't didn't sound exactly right to my ears, but as a dinner guest in their lovely home I didn't press them to validate their assertion.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-08-14   20:40:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Boston is also well stocked with Irishmen, probably because of proximity to the Canadian border.

Unlike NYC, I've always thought of Boston as an "Irish town," even though population wise there were probably many more Irish in NYC than Boston during the period of time they wee immigrating here.

meaning that he used his own to war with Italians for control of the bootleg biz.

I can't believe a Kennedy would do such a thing! And for money? NEVER! /sarcasm

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-14   20:47:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I can't believe a Kennedy would do such a thing! And for money? NEVER! /sarcasm

If I was Suge Knight when he controlled a large share of a billion dollar rap music industry (Death Row records) I too would probably have been as proud as Hell to be a gangsta rappa promoter, and I'd have encouraged shootouts in nightclubs and record launch parties, too!

But, unlike Old Joe, there's some proof that Suge would actually set up his own, if not gun them personally. He was implicated in the murders of rivals of both sides of the ongoing feud between Tupac and The Notorious B.I.G. even though he was wounded when Tupac got it in Vegas.

In other words, he'd arrange to gun his own nigra for profit or, "line his pockets with the blood of the criminally urban African American."

Perhaps because Joe Kennedy hadn't actually stuck any ice picks in any "rival entrepreneurs" by Italian standards he was "less than committed" to the furtherance of the Irish in The New World.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-08-14   21:16:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you one, Herbert?

Dakmar  posted on  2009-08-14   21:20:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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