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#36. To: PSUSA (#33)
General Lee and other generals did not have reliable intelligence about enemy troop strength and positions beyond the immediate battlefield. Plus, they were deliberately cautious about their resources, not wanting to squander troop strength and lives. We know more now about what could have been achieved than they themselves knew at the time of battle.
_________________________________________________________________________ when the heath family moved out of Minnesota there wasn't room enough for ewecon to ride anywhere but the trunk, the doctors said if his mental base line had been a bit higher there would have been noticeable brain damage from the exhaust.
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
That is not a reason but an excuse. Whose fault was it that their intel sucked? Who decided to proceed in spite of the lack of intelligence? They lost that battle before it even started. It never should have been fought because it was fought on the norths terms, and you do not fight on your enemies terms or on ground of their choosing. Too many good and extremely brave men died needlessly and their deaths can be laid at Lees' feet. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. -Sun Tzu
You must have been too quick. : ) One other nifty feature on this forum is the mail button. Posters can send or receive a private message to anybody. I was hanging around for several months before some sweet poster hit me up side the head with a clue by four.
Among other great features here is the "Ignore Thread" choice when things go south on a thread.
Say, that IS neat. I didn't know about that one. Where do I find that handly little excape button? Thanks for the bump with the clue by four. : )
Ignore is found on the very first post of a thread, bottom right, the very last choice to hit. Whenever things get totally inane for you, just whack it and speed up the load time, as a bonus.
Thanks, Lod. Isn't it funny how the option was there all the time, but I hadn't noticed it? Damn conditioning!!! I must break free. lol
You're most welcome. Christine and Neil have set up the most excellent site for the free flow of ideas, information, and discussion of same that I've found on the web. Thanks for joining us here, Lod, formerly Nigger Jim. (For readers of Mark Twain.) But that's another story.
I noticed that they're not clickable. You're prolly too liquored up to figure out how to do that, huh? I'm just kidding of course. I believe the Irish are as sober and upright as any other Puerto Rican! But, seriously, every year thousands flock to Cork to kiss the Blarney Stone, but two years ago they took a sample of it and guess what it's made of? Petrified Italian ass! So, my question is, does it really make the Guinness taste better? So much better that they ignore what it is? "I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
I'm curious. Are there a lot of pro-British Catholics such as yourself in Ireland? I ask because it has been my experience that the stereotypical Irishman is either an anti-British Catholic or pro-British Protestant.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Great pictures on your home page. You're a man's man! Please tell me you aren't a Civil War reenactor because between the hog and turkey (and prolly white tail if you need the meat) hunts, the aviation and re-fighting the Battle Of Nawthern Aggression (there's no such thing as a casual commitment to that!) your woman may be ready to start dressing in widow's black!
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
You're one handsome negro, but can you say "yez baaz"?
"America without her freedoms, is like a body without a soul" - Adam Kokesh
Fully 1/3rd of the 3000-officer strong Royal Ulster Constabulary positions were reserved for Catholics. And, according to wiki "The first two thousand places were filled quickly. Due to a slow recruitment rate from Catholics, the force resorted to normal recruitment in order to fill the remaining vacancies. (A Catholic in The RUC was by definition, "abnormal"?_HD) As a result, representation of Catholics in the RUC never exceeded 20% and, by the 1960s, it had a Catholic representation of 12%." ' ______________________ So, it appears that you're correct that "pro Brit Catholics" probably don't cause any traffic jams, but there were enough to demonstrate an exception to the rule. And, one can only wonder about that 12% number after Black Sunday, though. I imagine that wearing the badge of "The Royals" after that terrible day would be like wearing a sign that reads "Muslim Jihadist and Proud Of It!" in The US after 9/11.
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
______________________ So, it appears that you're correct that "pro Brit Catholics" probably don't cause any traffic jams, but there were enough to demonstrate an exception to the rule. And, one can only wonder about that 12% number after Black Sunday, though. I imagine that wearing the badge of "The Royals" after that terrible day would be like wearing a sign that reads "Muslim Jihadist and Proud Of It!" in The US after 9/11. I will admit to being next to clueless about Ireland religious and political divisions. I knew an Irish-American from Boston when I was in the Army who claimed that real Irishmen were Catholics and hated the Brits. As an aside, he was the only white man I ever met who called himself anything other than a plain ol' American. He always referred to himself as an Irish-American. Maybe it's a Boston thing.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Most Catholic Irish don't really hate the British anymore, but are admittedly still skeptical of it's ruling elite. Which, is understandable; after centuries of them evolving into a democracy - they've now turned into a police state under New Labour. We have plenty of barstool gunmen over here who mouth off about the British when drunk - pay no heed to them.... they never actually seem to do anything about the next day.... LOL
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
Most of us are neither strictly "pro" or "anti" British, and we see the North as a complicated mess, which is why southern Irish tend to be only lukewarm about the idea of the united Ireland - we don't want the mess the British caused! LOL The majority of us are against terrorist violence from both sides first and foremost.
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
We have plenty of barstool gunmen over here who mouth off about the British when drunk - pay no heed to them.... they never actually seem to do anything about the next day.... LOL Maybe I'm confusing the attitude of those from the Republic of Ireland with those from Northern Ireland?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
You're prolly too liquored up to figure out how to do that, huh? I actually gave it up nearly 4 years ago! :-P No, I must have overlooked the feature for hyperlinking. Oh well, I can come back to it later... I'm just kidding of course. I believe the Irish are as sober and upright as any other Puerto Rican! Hehe.. I'm not sure what that means! ;) But, seriously, every year thousands flock to Cork to kiss the Blarney Stone, but two years ago they took a sample of it and guess what it's made of? Petrified Italian ass! Sofia Loren? :-P Legend has it that the Blarney Stone is just a tourist trap for Americans. :-P So, my question is, does it really make the Guinness taste better? So much better that they ignore what it is? We can't ignore that... we see it in the can the following day... LOL
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
There is a difference, obviously, the Northern Catholics are more hostile towards the British than us southerners. And yet, before the peace process, Sinn Fein never got anywhere - the moderately nationalist SDLP got the majority of votes from NI Catholics. Most NI Catholics I've ever spoken to would criticise the British security forces oft heavy handed measures - but equally; they would criticise the IRA for thier violence.
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
It's not as obvious as you may think. At least not to this American. The Irish stereotype presented by the media in the movies and whatnot doesn't really distinguish between the two countries. My guess is the family of the guy I knew in the army must have been from Northern Ireland, because he had a real hatred for the British. if you got him on the subject he'd rail for hours if given a chance. His favorite story was of the priest who was shot between the eyes by the British while serving the Eucharist during a mass. I guess it's a big tourist place now. Anyway, thanks for the education.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Boston is to proud Irish Nationalists what NYC is to nice Jewish people who also proudly think of themselves as dual citizens.. Although The Big Apple has a large and unbroken legacy of Irish cops and firefighters from the beginnings of both agencies, (see NYPD EMERALD SOCIETY) Boston is also well stocked with Irishmen, probably because of proximity to the Canadian border. Some Irish who had legally immigrated to Canada found Boston more lucrative and relocated, The unintended result being ample sources of funds when the IRA needed them. One seasoned IRA guerilla who had fought beside the martyrs could raise beau coup dinero on a fly in fundraiser, and it was probably easier to cross (or jump) the Canadian border as an undetected "INTERPOL person of interest" or even a known combatant than it was to fly into New York and get through inspections. I would say, "Hell yes, it's a Boston thing!" And Joe Kennedy was one of the biggest liquor importers in the US and as you know the Kennedys resided in Brookline (a Boston Suburb) and Hyannis. (on Cape Cod) Years ago some nice Italian folks told me that "Joe Kennedy lined his pockets with the blood of the Irish!", meaning that he used his own to war with Italians for control of the bootleg biz. it was their cynical view that he stirred up Irish pride to turn obscene profits. To suggest that Italian mob bosses were sincere to fight using their own and Kennedy wasn't didn't sound exactly right to my ears, but as a dinner guest in their lovely home I didn't press them to validate their assertion.
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
It'z twoo it'z twoo!
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
Unlike NYC, I've always thought of Boston as an "Irish town," even though population wise there were probably many more Irish in NYC than Boston during the period of time they wee immigrating here. meaning that he used his own to war with Italians for control of the bootleg biz. I can't believe a Kennedy would do such a thing! And for money? NEVER! /sarcasm
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
The majority of us are against terrorist violence from both sides first and foremost. In the hospital where Wifey worked in Los Angeles there was one nursing supervisor who wore orange every St. Patrick's Day! Frankly I thought she was ignorant as Hell to "raise consciousness through protest" on an issue of religious strife among people who knew little or nothing of it. (In a health care facility that employed a majority of Hispanics and no small number of Filipino nurses) She was a native born American of English descent, and I had to wonder why she didn't "get it" when I suggested that people like her could be more cause than effect. "The majority of us are against terrorist violence from both sides first and foremost." My experience with Irish, Scottish and British nationals is that most abhor senseless violence and are frustrated by extremists of every stripe. One famous and well respected giant of the pro gun press, the now deceased "Father Of Combat Handgunning" Col Jeff Cooper (USMC ret.) once wrote that the entire populations of (anti gun states) NY, Mass, NJ, and MD should be deported to Northern Ireland. "It would raise the standards on both sides of the Atlantic", he opined.
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
Now THAT'S something Irish people really hate - the way Hollywood and the US media depict us. They can't even get our accents and mannerisms right.. though they seemed to have finally learned what the Brogue really sounds like in recent years. LOL I have noticed that inability too of Hollywood/US media to distinguish - I remember that TV drama, Nowhere Man where the title character had flash backs about NI and a RUC man in a "Oirish" accent telling him to put his camera away! LOL My guess is the family of the guy I knew in the army must have been from Northern Ireland, because he had a real hatred for the British. if you got him on the subject he'd rail for hours if given a chance. His favorite story was of the priest who was shot between the eyes by the British while serving the Eucharist during a mass. I guess it's a big tourist place now. I often wonder how Irish ex-pats often seem to paint the worst possible picture of the British in NI, they're either on the run, or know they'll get a receptive audience if they play on anti-Britishism. NI certainly lagged the republic with tourism - I was in NI in June '07; there was a total absence of B&Bs in Fermanagh - one of the most scenic counties on this island. So, despite recent changes, NI has still a long way to go before catching up with the south. Anyway, thanks for the education. You're welcome, I'm trying to be as accurate as possible, but bearing in mind I'm a long way from any of the flash points, I live in county Mayo, so I can't know the ins-and-outs for sure.
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
A relatively unknown fact - the NI Protestants equally acknowledge St Patrick as their patron Saint. Frankly I thought she was ignorant as Hell to "raise consciousness through protest" on an issue of religious strife among people who knew little or nothing of it. (In a health care facility that employed a majority of Hispanics and no small number of Filipino nurses) She was a native born American of English descent, and I had to wonder why she didn't "get it" when I suggested that people like her could be more cause than effect. I think, if anything, the extremists in the North fan the flames of sectarian strife, they use it for their own agendas that have little to do with religion, IMHO. The ordinary people on both sides would get along if the extremists weren't stirring up the shit. My experience with Irish, Scottish and British nationals is that most abhor senseless violence and are frustrated by extremists of every stripe. I don't really have anything to add to that, as I think you've hit the nail on the head, probably the reason Ireland is a neutrality. Though... recent weeks I do wonder, violent crime has escalated - someone was even stabbed to death in a town about 10 miles from me earlier in the week! I think the recession is, in part, contributing to the recent explosion in crime. That's a Marxist belief, of course, but maybe they get the odd thing right... One famous and well respected giant of the pro gun press, the now deceased "Father Of Combat Handgunning" Col Jeff Cooper (USMC ret.) once wrote that the entire populations of (anti gun states) NY, Mass, NJ, and MD should be deported to Northern Ireland. "It would raise the standards on both sides of the Atlantic", he opined. LOL! It would seem counter-intuitive to many, but, if they liberalised gun laws in NI - the terrorists would not have a monopoly on fire power anymore! The knee-caps brigades would get knee-capped instead.....
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
Surely you're not suggesting that Victor McLaglen or Ward Bond's accents were fake are you!!! LOL! Well there was always Maureen O'Hara.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
If I was Suge Knight when he controlled a large share of a billion dollar rap music industry (Death Row records) I too would probably have been as proud as Hell to be a gangsta rappa promoter, and I'd have encouraged shootouts in nightclubs and record launch parties, too! But, unlike Old Joe, there's some proof that Suge would actually set up his own, if not gun them personally. He was implicated in the murders of rivals of both sides of the ongoing feud between Tupac and The Notorious B.I.G. even though he was wounded when Tupac got it in Vegas. In other words, he'd arrange to gun his own nigra for profit or, "line his pockets with the blood of the criminally urban African American." Perhaps because Joe Kennedy hadn't actually stuck any ice picks in any "rival entrepreneurs" by Italian standards he was "less than committed" to the furtherance of the Irish in The New World.
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
Are you one, Herbert?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. I'm not familiar with them. Well there was always Maureen O'Hara. True enough, at least John Ford had some sense of accuracy in The Quiet Man, except for the Parish Priest being supportive of a Catholic and Protestant getting married in '50s Ireland.... LOL
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
I'm not familiar with them. Well there was always Maureen O'Hara. True enough, at least John Ford had some sense of accuracy in The Quiet Man, except for the Parish Priest being supportive of a Catholic and Protestant getting married in '50s Ireland.... LOL Ward Bond played the Catholic Priest in the Quiet Man (he was born in the US). He also played an Irishman in many other movies. Victor McLaglen was in many of John Wayne's movies, always playing an Irishman, even though he was born in England and raised in South Africa. But damned good Irishmen they were anyway!! LOL! Needless to say, I'm a sucker for old John Wayne cowboy movies.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
It's been a while since I seen the film, so I have everything forgotten! LOL But damned good Irishmen they were anyway!! LOL! Needless to say, I'm a sucker for old John Wayne cowboy movies. John Wayne is always worth watching!
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
I have to confess, I participated as a private in the 4th Texas Infantry, Company C during my college years. I got tired of shooting blanks and reverted back to sending hot lead downrange on real targets :-)
_________________________________________________________________________ I can relate to that. I'm a Southerner in a mixed marriage. My wife is a....Polish Catholic YANKEE! ;)
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
I'm a Southerner in a mixed marriage. My wife is a....Polish Catholic YANKEE! ;) ROFL!! Them Northerners.... ;)
NO to Lisbon! I fear a YES verdict more than Swine Flu....
Glorious history, from the Mexican campaign to 2nd Manassas. And Ft. Hood is named after John Bell Hood, isn't it?
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
Yes sir!!
_________________________________________________________________________ Could be worse, you could be married to a NY Jew.
Someone like Denise Rich? Hmmmmm. "Hey Mama, there's a beautiful, guitar in the window and I really want it!" Well, you know what you have to do. Get down on your knees and make Mama moan...." "Gobble, slurp, Hummmmmmmmm....."
"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#37. To: buckeroo (#17)
#38. To: X-15 (#36)
General Lee and other generals did not have reliable intelligence about enemy troop strength and positions beyond the immediate battlefield.
#39. To: SonOfLiberty (#32)
I did click.
#40. To: abraxas. all (#39)
#41. To: Lod (#40)
Among other great features here is the "Ignore Thread" choice when things go south on a thread
#42. To: abraxas (#41)
#43. To: Lod (#42)
#44. To: abraxas (#43)
#45. To: irishthatcherite (#7)
One of the first things I did was post links to Irish anti-EU websites on my page...
#46. To: irishthatcherite (#7)
#47. To: X-15 (#0)
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
You can borrow my pic if you want.
#49. To: Hayek Fan, irishthatcherite (#46)
I'm curious. Are there a lot of pro-British Catholics such as yourself in Ireland? I ask because it has been my experience that the stereotypical Irishman is either an anti-British Catholic or pro-British Protestant.
#50. To: HOUNDDAWG (#49)
Fully 1/3rd of the 3000-officer strong Royal Ulster Constabulary positions were reserved for Catholics. And, according to wiki "The first two thousand places were filled quickly. Due to a slow recruitment rate from Catholics, the force resorted to normal recruitment in order to fill the remaining vacancies. (A Catholic in The RUC was by definition, "abnormal"?_HD) As a result, representation of Catholics in the RUC never exceeded 20% and, by the 1960s, it had a Catholic representation of 12%." '
#51. To: Hayek Fan (#46)
I'm curious. Are there a lot of pro-British Catholics such as yourself in Ireland? I ask because it has been my experience that the stereotypical Irishman is either an anti-British Catholic or pro-British Protestant.
#52. To: HOUNDDAWG (#49)
So, it appears that you're correct that "pro Brit Catholics" probably don't cause any traffic jams, but there were enough to demonstrate an exception to the rule.
#53. To: irishthatcherite (#51)
Most Catholic Irish don't really hate the British anymore, but are admittedly still skeptical of it's ruling elite. Which, is understandable; after centuries of them evolving into a democracy - they've now turned into a police state under New Labour.
#54. To: HOUNDDAWG (#45)
I noticed that they're not clickable.
#55. To: Hayek Fan (#53)
Maybe I'm confusing the attitude of those from the Republic of Ireland with those from Northern Ireland?
#56. To: irishthatcherite (#55)
There is a difference, obviously, the Northern Catholics are more hostile towards the British than us southerners.
#57. To: Hayek Fan (#50)
Maybe it's a Boston thing.
#58. To: irishthatcherite (#54)
Legend has it that the Blarney Stone is just a tourist trap for Americans. :-P
#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#57)
Boston is also well stocked with Irishmen, probably because of proximity to the Canadian border.
#60. To: irishthatcherite (#52)
Most of us are neither strictly "pro" or "anti" British, and we see the North as a complicated mess, which is why southern Irish tend to be only lukewarm about the idea of the united Ireland - we don't want the mess the British caused! LOL
#61. To: Hayek Fan (#56)
It's not as obvious as you may think. At least not to this American. The Irish stereotype presented by the media in the movies and whatnot doesn't really distinguish between the two countries.
#62. To: HOUNDDAWG (#60)
In the hospital where Wifey worked in Los Angeles there was one nursing supervisor who wore orange every St. Patrick's Day!
#63. To: irishthatcherite (#61)
Now THAT'S something Irish people really hate - the way Hollywood and the US media depict us. They can't even get our accents and mannerisms right.. though they seemed to have finally learned what the Brogue really sounds like in recent years. LOL
#64. To: Hayek Fan (#59)
I can't believe a Kennedy would do such a thing! And for money? NEVER! /sarcasm
#65. To: HOUNDDAWG (#64)
#66. To: Hayek Fan (#63)
Surely you're not suggesting that Victor McLaglen or Ward Bond's accents were fake are you!!! LOL!
#67. To: irishthatcherite (#66)
Surely you're not suggesting that Victor McLaglen or Ward Bond's accents were fake are you!!! LOL!
#68. To: Hayek Fan (#67)
Ward Bond played the Catholic Priest in the Quiet Man (he was born in the US). He also played an Irishman in many other movies. Victor McLaglen was in many of John Wayne's movies, always playing an Irishman, even though he was born in England and raised in South Africa.
#69. To: HOUNDDAWG (#47)
Please tell me you aren't a Civil War reenactor
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#70. To: Hayek Fan, irishthatcherite (#67)
True enough, at least John Ford had some sense of accuracy in The Quiet Man, except for the Parish Priest being supportive of a Catholic and Protestant getting married in '50s Ireland.... LOL
#71. To: HOUNDDAWG (#70)
I can relate to that.
#72. To: X-15 (#69)
4th Texas Infantry, Company C
#73. To: HOUNDDAWG (#72)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#74. To: HOUNDDAWG, irishthatcherite (#70)
My wife is a....Polish Catholic YANKEE! ;)
"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
#75. To: farmfriend (#74)
Could be worse, you could be married to a NY Jew.
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