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Title: Update on LP (Goldi's email)
Source: email
URL Source: http://4um
Published: Aug 13, 2009
Author: email from Goldi
Post Date: 2009-08-13 20:05:29 by palo verde
Keywords: None
Views: 1928
Comments: 188

(Palo) We are lucky for the hospitality of 4um, their owner, Christine, and their kind posters
I am not on email with Goldi, but another poster is and was kind enough to forward me Goldi's email
so I would know what was going on and could share it with others
It looks like we will be on 4um for a while so I want to express my gratitude to 4um for their hospitality to us
Love, Palo

Here is the email from Goldi which was forwarded on to me

We have assessed the damage and will be replacing most of the parts that run the server. The heat damaged pretty much everything.

The software may also be corrupted, and we will have to go back to our last good copy of a backup.

We may lose some of the database, so when we come back up we may lose the past few weeks of posts.

My best guess is 7 to 10 days downtime (max)

Goldi

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#68. To: sneakypete (#63)

No you didn't. You have to go to NC to learn what Barb B Que is. Even then they fight over which is best,the eastern style or the western style. I personally like the western NC style best.

Then you haven't tasted Santa Maria style. No messy sauces or garish rubs allowed.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-14   1:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: palo verde (#67)

Palo-

The point about Ron Paul was not to fill your own taste-buds about your own salivating lips chomping on a free BBQ.

You missed the point of getting together to achieve a political idea, altogether. God, you are fucking dense. Go back and look at the stars.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-14   1:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: HOUNDDAWG (#66)

In Manhattan it's pronounced "How's dun" but in Texas it's "Hugh's ton".

yes you are right HD
I always pronounce it "How's dun Street"
everyone in NYC does

altho I do pronounce the city in Texas "Hugh's ton" like everybody else

I wonder how Houston Street on Lower East Side got its name
I'm guessing it's an old street
that was there before Sam Houston in Texas was
but really I have no idea?

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   1:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: palo verde (#70)

that (it) was there before Sam Houston in Texas was...

I'll bet you're right.

RADIO CAROLINE ONLINE

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-08-14   1:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: HOUNDDAWG (#66)

(Palo) OK I looked up Houston Street on WIKI

Houston Street (pronounced "HOW-stin") is named for William Houstoun, who was a Delegate to the Continental Congress for the State of Georgia from 1784 through 1786 and to the United States Constitutional Convention in 1787.

The street was christened by Nicholas Bayard III, whose daughter, Mary, was married to Houstoun in 1788 The couple met while Houstoun, a member of an ancient and aristocratic Scottish family, was serving in the Congress.

Bayard cut the street through a tract he owned in the vicinity of Canal Street in which he lived, and the city later extended it to include North Street, the northern border of New York's east side at the beginning of the 19th Century.

The current spelling of the name is a corruption: the street appears as Houstoun in the city's Common Council minutes for 1808 and the official map drawn in 1811 to establish the street grid that is still current.

In those years, the Texas hero Sam Houston, for whom the street is sometimes incorrectly said to have been named, was an unknown teenager in Tennessee.

painting of Houston Street in 1917 George Luks

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   1:39:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: All (#72)

that is a great painting, I never saw it before...
I never heard of the artist either

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   1:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: palo verde (#73)

Yeah .. you were too busy eating a free porkchop at a Ron Paul BBQ political fundraiser.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-14   1:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: HOUNDDAWG (#71)

I think Katz's is on Houston Street and Essex (which turns into Avenue A
but one block down is Clinton Street (which turns into Avenue B)
I am guessing Clinton was hero in Revolutionary War
those are all old streets there...

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   1:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: buckeroo (#45)

forgot to add: you are numb-nuts, too.

And your acting like an ass.. if you wish to insult someone, here I am.. but lay off the Ladies..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-08-14   1:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: sneakypete (#63)

You have to go to NC to learn what Barb B Que is.

There is a shack on the way to Nags Head (just into Carolina, from Va Beach), that has IMHO the best BBQ ever..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-08-14   1:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Refinersfire (#76)

Palo is no lady. She is a desert rat.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-14   1:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: buckeroo (#69)

I have no clue what has got into you as of late, but your being a dumbass, who just wants to start something.. how about you go watch the stars and cool off.

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-08-14   1:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Refinersfire (#77)

Hi my darling
well I admit I am a New Age flake
but most of my fellow posters are sweet enough to ignore it :)
I love you
Palo

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   1:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: buckeroo (#78)

Palo is no lady. She is a desert rat.

Man.. you really need to chill.. America is going to hell, and your here trying to pick a fight.. how about we understand, that we are losing right now and this thread, gives everyone a chance to relax for a cpl, before going back to fighting the good fight..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-08-14   1:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: palo verde (#80)

Palo,

You keep doing your thing.. Cause God made us all, and that means you are just as special as Buck, even tho he doesn't seem to get that..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-08-14   1:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Refinersfire (#79)

The value of discussion threads is far more than moon beams and sun beams and taking a swim and having a free porkchop at a RP BBQ spot. And looking towards the future because some silly website suggested the Aztecs have a calandar agreeing with the moon.

Do you ever read her shit? It is always silly.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-14   1:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: All, war (#80)

here is some history that someone told me when I was walking with my dog and him on lower Broadway
he was a friend of mine named George
I do not know if it is true ?
lemme try to remember what George told me
he pointed to the buildings on west side of Broadway below Astor Place
and just north of Houston Street
and said that John Hancock had 99 year lease on them
John Hancock had leased them from the City for something like one dollar,
and the city was so glad when the 99 years were up
hahaha I guess those buildings cost a billion dollars now
Love, Palo

War, you work on Wall Street, do you think this is true?

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   2:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: buckeroo (#83)

The value of discussion threads is far more than moon beams and sun beams and taking a swim and having a free porkchop at a RP BBQ spot.

See.. here is what makes me fear for you.. Discussion is what someone post and whatever someone replies to that Topic.. And yes, I know you are worried about America, as I am, but we can't have Gloom 24/7, or we will become dishearten and many will just give up.. we all need to be reminded what makes America Great, every once in a while.. and that is, in America, we all have the Right to Believe in what we want to..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-08-14   2:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Refinersfire (#82)

Palo,

You keep doing your thing.. Cause God made us all,
and that means you are just as special as Buck,
even tho he doesn't seem to get that..

Thank you RF for being so kind and undestanding
I realize it is a trial on everyone I am a new age flake
my husband has hard time with it too
when I open up my mouth to tell him some flaky thing
he immediately interrupts
Tell your friend Janice that, she believes the same as you
(he doesn't want to hear it :)
Love and kisses, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   2:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Refinersfire (#85)

See.. here is what makes me fear for you.

You have nothing to fear. No one does. But the more some posters play as "nice little fine puppets" it brings about my wrath.

Why don't you question the lying bitch that wears a perpetual sundress in the desert while she sucks down free porkchops about her own convictions?

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-14   2:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: palo verde (#86)

I realize it is a trial on everyone I am a new age flake

If you even have a husband, go fuck him. Don't fuck the world around you.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-08-14   2:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: buckeroo (#87)

Why don't you question the lying bitch that wears a perpetual sundress in the desert while she sucks down free porkchops about her own convictions?

Don't need to, as I already know who Palo is.. have for a long time..

Buck.. not everyone can be you or I.. that just in not possible.. as my Grandmother would say.. "Everyone learns in God's Time".. And in her defense, I have seen a huge change in her, as she leaned in her own way, since Lucy's site..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-08-14   2:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Refinersfire (#85)

(RF to Buckeroo)

I know you are worried about America, as I am, but we can't have Gloom 24/7, or we will become dishearten and many will just give up..
we all need to be reminded what makes America Great, every once in a while..
and that is, in America, we all have the Right to Believe in what we want to..

You are right RF
good post

this new admin in Oval Office
is a menace to our liberties (and to our pocketbooks)
but it would not be sensible to let our spirits go down
plus I do believe God will see to it that worst never comes to worst..
we the people will prevail, not those who fear the people and would take our liberty from us
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   2:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Refinersfire (#89)

Buck.. not everyone can be you or I.. that just in not possible..
as my Grandmother would say.. "Everyone learns in God's Time"..
And in her defense, I have seen a huge change in her, as she learned in her own way, since Lucy's site..

I was still ultra liberal when I first arrived on Lucy's site (at Y2K)
I came because I thought Prez clinton was the most dangerous enemy our country ever had
I was determined to get him out of power in 2000
I did not know the conservative position on any issue
I learned them all on Lucy's site from fellow posters
they held water for me, so I switched my positions

but I didn't become libertarian till I arrived on LP and was educated by the Constitutionalists there

I am someone who has learned a great deal from my fellow posters
I am so appreciative and grateful
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   2:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: palo verde (#72) (Edited)

Houston Street (pronounced "HOW-stin") is named for William Houstoun, who was a Delegate to the Continental Congress for the State of Georgia from 1784 through 1786 and to the United States Constitutional Convention in 1787.

Very good and thank you!

RADIO CAROLINE ONLINE

"I just play to the goddess of music-and I know she's dancing."__Taj Mahal

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-08-14   6:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: mininggold (#68) (Edited)

Then you haven't tasted Santa Maria style. No messy sauces or garish rubs allowed.

I have relatives in California that keep trying to get me to mail them NC Bar B Que.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-14   8:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: buckeroo (#69)

The point about Ron Paul was not to fill your own taste-buds about your own salivating lips chomping on a free BBQ.

You missed the point of getting together to achieve a political idea, altogether. God, you are fucking dense. Go back and look at the stars.

Buck,YOU are the one missing the whole point. This type of event is about BOTH. It's about people with similar political viewpoints or even open minds getting together to socialize while meeting with politicians who are looking for donations and votes.

There is no such thing as a political rally in this area that doesn't include a pig pickin' or a fish fry.

You must not be from the south or you would know this.

Unless of course your whole reason to post that was purely to attack Palo.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-14   8:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Refinersfire (#77)

There is a shack on the way to Nags Head (just into Carolina, from Va Beach), that has IMHO the best BBQ ever..

The best I ever had was the western NC style,but you have to go west of Rocky Mount to find it.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-14   8:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: buckeroo (#83)

Do you ever read her shit? It is always silly.

It's no sillier than getting 72 virgins in heaven,or the resurrection of the faithful promised in the bible by the guy who humped Joseph's wife and left her a virgin.

If anything it is less silly.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-14   8:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: palo verde (#91)

I am someone who has learned a great deal from my fellow posters

Palo,this is why you are a breath of fresh air. The problem on ALL of these political web sites is that everybody there already knows everything and they have nothing to learn. If you don't believe it,just ask them.

And I have to admit that I am as guilty of that as anybody at times.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-14   8:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: palo verde (#0)

LP is a nice site and all, but this one seems much more user friendly and much less....1999-ish. Editing your posts, how quaint a notion! I suspect I'll be sticking around here after LP comes back up, though I won't abandon LP to its fate just yet.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-08-14   8:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: sneakypete (#97)

And I have to admit that I am as guilty of that as anybody at times.

Ahhh, yes.

A big A+ for honesty.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-14   8:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: palo verde (#84)

War, you work on Wall Street, do you think this is true?

Yes I do.

--I Brake For The Invisible

war  posted on  2009-08-14   10:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

Peace, and what I'd give for a corned beef on rye from Katz's delicatessen!

Best corned beef is Wolf's downtown...paper thin and the rye is to die for...

--I Brake For The Invisible

war  posted on  2009-08-14   10:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: SonOfLiberty, christine (#98)

LP is a nice site and all, but this one seems much more user friendly and much less....1999-ish.
Editing your posts, how quaint a notion!
I suspect I'll be sticking around here after LP comes back up, though I won't abandon LP to its fate just yet.

Hi SOL
every cloud has a silver lining
it is hospitable of 4um to take us in, and for their posters to be so gracious to us
I have read many of your posts on LP, they are intelligent, interesting, perceptive
and you are definitely in sync with the liberty-loving posters on 4um
(this forum could have been designed with you in mind)
I think you would make a nice addition here

LP still works for me
I am such a nut, it is best for me to be on an all-viewpoints forum
plus I like learning how others see things
I had no idea what the culture wars were
until the David Letterman/Sarah Palin spat broke out

for me David Letterman is just an entertainer who made a bad joke
I was stunned to discover how many on LP see him as the enemy

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   11:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: war (#100)

(Palo) War, you work on Wall Street, do you think this is true?
(that John Hancock had that 99 year lease on all those buildings on lower Broadway, and paid such tiny money)

(War) Yes I do.

That is interesting you think it is true
hahaha NYC must have gone crazy
if he got those leases in 1825 -- I am just guessing
and the rent was so tiny
then the City had to wait till 1924 before the lease was up
and they could charge real money
I saw those buildings they are very valuable and in prime location
LOL John Hancock had talent for getting a good deal :)
Love and kisses, Palo

was he a banker? or business man?
I just know him as first signer of Declaration of Independence

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-14   11:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: sneakypete (#93)

I have relatives in California that keep trying to get me to mail them NC Bar B Que.

They evidently have not tried the SantaMaria, or maybe they are just catsup lovers lol

But I think there are many good BBQ styles, most reflect the taste of the foods grown in that particular area. The best BBQ sauce I ever tasted was made by a now deceased neighbor from a recipe she obtained in Italy. Not sweet either. I wish I could get ahold of that recipe, I would be rich.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-14   12:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: mininggold (#104)

They evidently have not tried the SantaMaria, or maybe they are just catsup lovers lol

Huh? Where do you get that from? I have never been handed a barb b que with ketchup or anything else on it.

The best BBQ sauce I ever tasted

What does the sauce have to do with it? Everybody adds garnish to suit their own tastes,but we were talking about the taste of the actual barb b que itself,not sauces.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-14   12:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: sneakypete (#105)

What does the sauce have to do with it? Everybody adds garnish to suit their own tastes,but we were talking about the taste of the actual barb b que itself,not sauces.

How do you get away from the sauce when in many cases it is laddled and mopped on the meat from the time it put in the smoker and presented as authentic BBQ?? I prefer BBQ without anything but salt and pepper, but that Italian recipe as either a marinade or a garnish was devine.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-14   12:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: mininggold (#106)

How do you get away from the sauce when in many cases it is laddled and mopped on the meat from the time it put in the smoker and presented as authentic BBQ??

Beats me because I have never seen it. The only thing I have ever seen added was vinegar,and I love vinegar. Which is why I like the western NC over the eastern NC version.

The cole slaw,ketchup,and other garnishes were always added by the customer.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-14   12:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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