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Title: Ted Twietmeyer makes sense here.
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URL Source: http://rense.com/general87/whya.htm
Published: Aug 14, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-08-14 08:05:53 by PSUSA
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In the article http://www.rense.com:80/general87/reality.htm a complete takeover of America is described.

I have never disagreed with anything Kirwan has written until now. I don't blame him for what he's quoting, but I do blame the sources for fabricating this. This is scare-mongering and it's happened before. And often government sources for this kind of material is never fully available. Even if there is such a plan, it may only have been written as a contingency plan, and the person quoting it has expanded it completely out of control. Alex Jones is well-noted for his fear-mongering and sensationalism on his radio show and website, without providing solutions to problems he presents. When he's been confronted by that with callers, he immediately resorts to the excuse "I only report the news" to get out of it.

We need to consider that such a move to takeover America would easily require more than a million troops to pull it off, and even more to secure every city, town and village in America. I once calculated awhile back that if the entire military was mobilized on the ground, the most the military could have in place would be about one or two soldiers per square mile all across America. This is hardly enough to secure America, whereas in cities they would need hundreds of soldiers per square mile or even more.

We have most of our entire military engaged in Iraq, which is about the size of the state of Texas. The Iraq war was never completely resolved and now we're pulling out of it, albeit slowly. America is many times the size of Texas, and the American people as a whole are heavily armed as well.

A military take-over of America just isn't realistic. We need to ask ourselves, "WHY would a foreign power want to be involved in such a takeover?

Why would any other country care to participate?

What would another country get out of it?

Are there countries in the world where foreign troops are assisting a government take-over like?

And if so,for what purpose?

If the country is placed under martial law and the economy is destroyed, what purpose will that serve?

Surely the NWO already knows it's far easier (and cheaper, since everything always comes down to the buck) to change laws and policies in subtle ways as it is now than to collapse the economy and start over. The UK is a great example of this. In the article's Red Dawn like scenario, a military action would only breed contempt and create independent counter-revolutionaries, that would cause "insurgent" fighting to go on for decades.

I think all of these factors need to be considered when serious talk of a military takeover is considered.

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#1. To: All (#0)

... The UK is a great example of this.

There's a big difference between us and the UK. The UK allowed itself to be disarmed. They are now defenseless. That will not happen here.

There is only so far our "leaders" can go to enact their agenda. They are hitting the brick wall right now with health care.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   8:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#1)

You're right. The only thing "they" can always rely on is the goobers are willing to borrow and spend trillions overseas in search of new enemies to bomb.

As Elliott Jackalope said yesterday:

The whole debate is pointless, and here's why: Third world countries cannot afford nationalized health care, because they're far too poor to pay for it. America is, as of now, a de- industrialized, post-industrial country with practically zero manufacturing and practically zero ability to produce anything that anyone else on the planet wants. Even the goods that get sold around the world from "American" companies are being manufactured in China, and that's where all the wealth is now going.

So ultimately, this whole debate is a strawman, a useless exercise in breast-beating and gum flapping, because we'll never have nationalized health care. That's something only first and second world nations can afford. A third world nation like America can't afford anything like that.

Gosh, wasn't NAFTA and CAFTA and GATT just wonderful? Boy, I sure do like living in a third- world country, don't you? It sure is great to live in a place where wages don't pay crap while everything costs a fortune. Yep, nothing like it. Just can't beat it.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-08-14   8:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Sam Houston (#2)

You're right.

That was unintentional. I was thinking more of the resistance they are getting, not the cost of the program being out of reach. I didn't even consider that when I posted it.

The cost factor is probably the main factor, for the reasons you list, with resistance being only a part of it.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   8:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-08-14   9:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA (#1)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-08-14   9:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

It all begins with dumbed down pubic education, really indoctrination, to get the masses to think that the FedGov is their mommy and daddy, and they're successfully doing so now. Believe me, they will have everyone absolutely clammoring for permission to euthanize their parents and grandparents for economic purposes via one form or another, all contrived and generated/caused by them, which will go over the heads of the morons like the a U2.

I used to think that. Resistance to the health care "overhaul" is giving me hope that people aren't nearly as shallow, stupid, and sheeplike as most of us thought.

This dumbed down education doesn't seem to be as successful as they thought it would be. We might still be a minority but we seem to be a stronger minority than I thought. They are still plugged into the system and think their representatives give a damn about what they think, but that will be proven a delusion in short order when their representatives do what they want to do, and citizens desires be damned.

Consider this: We don't know how many people are aware. We see people going about their daily business and wonder what their views on these things are. We have a tendency to look at them like they are sheep waiting to be sheared. But we can't read their minds. They may know more then you or I and be better prepared. We just don't know. Although I have met like minded people face to face just by BSing with them, I don't make a habit of discussing these things.

IMO we are about to gain a lot of converts.

And BTW, I dont blame the education system, I blame MSM and their TV programming and their cultural programming. That is nothing but illusion and delusion on a huge scale.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   10:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2009-08-14   10:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA (#6)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-08-14   10:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

You obviously aren't tuned into the younger generation, ... under 25 e.g.

You're right. I'm not.

But for the life of me I can't see it lasting another 20 years.

We'll be lucky to make it to Christmas.

If I can break out of the public education mold, there's no reason why others can't. There's nothing special about me. Those that can, can help. Those that can't, (or won't) I don't want anywhere around me.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   10:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#7) (Edited)

A military takeover is not necessary to impose martial law or it's equivalent. First of all, law enforcement would be four square behind whatever took place.

LEO is outmanned and outgunned.

I live in a town of <10,000.

If only 1% show up dressed to kill, that is about 100 men, give or take.

That, vs a pigsty of maybe 20 pigs.

So, my town being typical, this will also apply to other cities.

During WWI newsmen critical of the war effort were jailed, as in WWII. During the Civil War I hardly need remind folks of the outrageous assaults on liberties like freedom of the press that occurred in Union States. During the red scare people were imprisoned for thought crimes and their careers deliberately ruined by the state. Most Americans were behind these actions when they occurred,

True.

But people were, IMO, different then. They thought the state could do no wrong. People seem to be fifferent now, not nearly as trusting as they were.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   10:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#10)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2009-08-14   10:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA (#9)

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#13. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

Hang in there and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.

If I didn't, I'd be scared to death. All that money down the drain... All those things destroyed. All those idols, smashed.

Because I do, I think about it but don't worry about it.

Not loving the things of this world is not a problem for me... I just want to be left alone by those in "authority".

Now if I could only stop dropping the "F" bomb. Oh well, we all have our problems to deal with.

The question will be what it will be and who's in charge after that. I can only assume a very fractured/splintered nation w/o the current equivalent of the FedGov.

That's the question.

All I know is, if we go down, freedom dies for the entire planet. We're all that's left. Therefore we will not go down.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   11:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ghostdogtxn (#11) (Edited)

LOL. Maybe the people you know. Watch "jaywalking" in reruns or read the statistic that 10% of US high school age kids can't identify where the US is on a world map.

I didn't say they were smarter.

I said they weren't as trusting.

When it comes to book smarts, people are dumber. Dumber as in willfully ignorant, not a lack of basic intelligence. Most don't care to learn what they weren't taught in school and the way I see it, that is a function of the will. They aren't forced to do it, so they don't.

I've seen some of those tests that they had to take and pass in the past. They weren't easy.

but the vast majority of your fellow citizens would gladly turn you in if an "official" agency posted your picture and said "terrorist".

Sure, if we struck now.

This is what bothers me about those that think because we aren't fighting now, or haven't done it already in the past, that all is lost. It's all in the timing, IMO. It won't happen on our timing, it will happen when the time is right.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   11:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA (#14)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2009-08-14   12:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ghostdogtxn (#15)

This is true. Everyone in this country that loves freedom is fighting in their own ways. And since nothing happens in a vacuum, we are all getting results, no matter what we do. We just hardly ever see the results of what we do.

It does seem like it isn't happening fast enough for our tastes, sometimes. We have a sense of urgency that most people don't have. Yet.

It's interesting seeing how things are shaping up.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-08-14   12:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA (#16)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

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