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Title: Do You Miss Bush Yet?
Source: floppingaces.net
URL Source: http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/07/23/do-you-miss-bush-yet/
Published: Aug 15, 2009
Author: floppingaces.net
Post Date: 2009-08-15 11:09:27 by longnose gar
Keywords: bushnationalairport, bushnationalpark, bushonthedollarbill, bushnationalmonument
Views: 899
Comments: 55

We had an honorable man in charge, a man who saw the big picture and cared about America. A man who respected our armed forces and who fought to right injustice in a very personal way. A man who wasn’t afraid to believe in God and believe in our country. A man who tried very hard to do what he thought was right. A man who put country first and really meant the buck stops here. Our liberal contingent treated him like dirt, like an enemy and betrayed our country by undermining him and supporting Anti American forces. He never lowered himself to personal attacks or petty politics. He healed the dishonor Clinton brought to the presidency and showed us courage, conviction and compassion.

His chief mistakes were in trying to meet the otherside halfway and allowing too much Government spending. I only hope we can find another President with the integrity and determination to protect our country that George Bush showed at home and abroad.

We don’t have a a President now, we have a matinee idol. He is full of hatred toward our country and is bowing and scraping to our enemies to ingratiate himself. The fascists and dictators are the ones he has always admired. He wants to be like them and bring about the changes that will let him rule America like a dictator with no one able to question or resist. Its up to us to resist and remove this corrupt and traitorous administration, to remove the Democratic majority that brought him to power and is letting him flaunt our constitution and due process. An dual citizen from birth whose allegiance to our country is not in evidence in any of his actions he was fraudulently elected and his actions, contribution records, and academic records need to see the light of day.

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#1. To: longnose gar (#0)

LOL you have got to be kidding.


"If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

farmfriend  posted on  2009-08-15   11:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

LOL you have got to be kidding.

The only remedy for this abuse is to donate....I mean give Goldi a new server and hook it up for her. We used to think this poster was Eric Dondero an ex Ron Paul aide fired for shenanigans, but I think it's really John Robinson. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-15   11:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mininggold (#2)

We used to think this poster was Eric Dondero an ex Ron Paul aide fired for shenanigans

Eric Dondero (not me) RESIGNED because of Ron Paul's appeasement attitude towards Islamic terrorists.

longnose gar  posted on  2009-08-15   11:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: longnose gar (#3)

Eric Dondero (not me) RESIGNED because of Ron Paul's appeasement attitude towards Islamic terrorists.

Yeah right. But he really didn't want Bush killing more American kids based on a false premise. You are free to enlist though.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-15   11:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: longnose gar (#0)

We had an honorable man in charge

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randge  posted on  2009-08-15   11:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mininggold (#4)

But he really didn't want Bush killing more American kids

Bush killed somebody? Did he shoot them, knife them or strangle them?

longnose gar  posted on  2009-08-15   11:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: longnose gar (#3)

Eric Dondero (not me) RESIGNED because of Ron Paul's appeasement attitude towards Islamic terrorists.

Dondero was booted out for being an idiot, making statetments such as this: "My perfect candidate would be a fusion Libertarian-Republican person running on a Pro-Defense, Pro-Drugs, Pro-Torture, Pro-Gitmo, Pro-Sex Rights platform who has nationally televised abortions on the campaign trail. But this is probably just a pipe dream."

I find it interesting that you continually defend this POS. One reason could be that you are, in fact, this POS. Can you cough up any other reason for such idiocy?

abraxas  posted on  2009-08-15   11:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#7)

Dondero has made it very clear why he QUIT (not booted from) working for Dr. Islam

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...Then September 11, 2001 hit. My boss, Ron Paul, all of a sudden changed dramatically. Whereas before he was a reasonable non-interventionist, he was now rabidly so.

I must say that Ron always knew how to play the game before 2001. He always campaigned as a die-in-the-wool rock-ribbed Conservative Republican. Coming from the Libertarian Party there was always suspicions about him on this. So, he went the extra mile within the District to allay such concerns.

He also campaigned as a "Bush Republican." I recall two specific events when Ron publicly backed Bush for President, quite enthusiastically; Once during a big GOP dinner in Wharton, and another time during a Bush for President fundraising in Corpus Christi. He also had Bush's photo on the wall at our District Office in Freeport.

I should also note that I personally spoke with Karl Rove twice in 1996. After Ron won the GOP Nomination, mainline Republicans were unsure as to how to treat him. We reached out to the Bush people. After my conversations with Rove, he put out the word to key Houston-area, Austin and Victoria Republicans to back Ron Paul. All of a sudden like a tidal wave all the GOPers came on board our Campaign.

Though privately, Ron leaned non-intervenionist, publicly he was always Pro-Troops, Pro-Veterans, Pro-Defense and quite Patriotic, particularly in his Campaign style.

He made extra sure to attend as many Veteran's events as possible. And when he couldn't go, he would always send me, as the only Vet on staff to represent him. He always made it quite clear that I was to emphasize "my views on foreign policy" more so than his non-interventionist views at such events. And I did.

But after Sept. 11, things changed. He became morose. He became bitter, and quite pessimistic.

I had to literally beg him to support the vote authorizing the President to send Troops to Afghanistan. I actually threatened to resign if he did not vote that way. And another key District Staffer, practically threatened to resign, as well. At the last minute Ron voted in favor of the Authorization. I suspected he only did it, cause he knew if he hadn't he would cause the Republicans in the District to oppose him, and he wouldn't win reelection.

But 9/11 served as a wake up call for me. I started questioning how it is that I could work for such a man.

Before it was always just a fun-loving disagreement; debating in the car from event to event to pass the time.

Now, I saw he was quite serious, and cared even less for how others, even constituents took his views on foreign policy.

Ron and I grew apart. I served as his Travel Aide less and less in 2002/03.

Finally one day in the Summer of 2003, he called on me to accompany him to an event in Victoria. He was acting quite strange in the car. He kept prodding me on foreign policy. I knew he was trying to get me to debate the War in Iraq with him. But I kept my cool the whole trip.

Finally, when we reached Victoria, I made a slight comeback, that I didn't think his particular view on the War was correct. He jumped out of the car and lunged at me. Poking his finger into my chest, he looked me in the eye and said, "I will have nobody working for me on my staff who supports the War in Iraq, even you." I'd only seen this look on Ron maybe once or twice in all my 12 years working for him. He was clearly quite angry with me.

I knew he was trying to provoke me so that he could have justification to fire me. But I kept my cool.

For 6 months after than we didn't speak.

Finally, Chief of Staff Tom Lizardo suggested that Ron and I not talking to each other was not helpful to the "atmosphere" in the District offices. I offered to my friend Tom to resign. We discussed a date, two months out, and a compensation package and I agreed.

I've been asked by others if my former boss is an Anti-Semite. My answer is an emphatic NO. I am half Jewish. I am familiar with Anti-Semites. Ron is not one of them.

But I would say he's very insensitive to issues concerning Israel and for other concerns of Jewish Americans.

Houston Jews were always suspicious of Ron Paul. But Ron could always point to me as his "Jewish Staffer." He would even send me to Synagogues in the District and to Jewish events. But I do remember one time, when a group of Houston Jewish Young Republicans wanted to lobby the Congressman on some issues. I begged Ron to meet with them. He was very hesitant. He finally agreed. But the meeting turned out to be a disaster. The Jewish YRs came all the way from Houston, and all Ron did was berate them in our District Office about how the Israel Lobby was too powerful in Washington, and other issues. He also got defensive when the Jewish YRs expressed concern over Palestinian violence against Israel.

I ran down the hallway after the meeting chasing the group, and apologized profusely to them.

After 9/11 Ron also became much more upfront in his anti-Israel views. He'd even criticize Israel in public speeches which would make me cringe.

Ron Paul and I agree on about 95% of all domestic issues. We disagree on a myriad of foreign policy and defense issues. Still, he was my boss. He was paying me, so I was obligated to toe the line.

This is not why I think less of him today.

Rather, what concerns me most was the fact that for many years he played both sides of the aisle. In the very Conservative South Texas CD, he was always Mr. Red, White, and Blue. If he couldn't make a Veterans event, he made damn sure that his one Vet on staff could go, even if it was just 8 VFW guys meeting for a couple hours 3 hours drive away. Ron was very careful to portray himself in the District as Pro-Troops, and even Pro-Defense.

But after 9/11 and most especially after the War in Iraq, he played up his non-interventionist side to a national audience. This while still keeping the facade of Pro-Troops/Pro-Defense in the District. As late as last year I got a constituent mailing from RP with 4 pages of nothing but Patriotic/Pro-Troops/Pro-Veterans information from the Congressional office. I suspect the reason why RP has gone south on foreign policy for the national audience is simple: To gain more dollars from a National fundraising base, and to gain more National media attention from Liberal media sources.

In closing let me just say, that I don't believe his views represent the views of Congressional District 14 any more. The District, which I live in, is quite considerably more Conservative of foreign policy/defense issues than Ron Paul.

longnose gar  posted on  2009-08-15   11:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: longnose gar (#8)

Your head is up your ass like all other Zionists.

robnoel  posted on  2009-08-15   11:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: longnose gar (#8)

blah, blah, blah.........Dondero Bovine Excrement

Given that last quote I posted by the POS, his words on the issue are not worth reading and certainly not worth believing. You still haven't answered my question.

You're making the case that you are in fact this POS Dondero stronger with every post.

abraxas  posted on  2009-08-15   11:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#4)

You are free to enlist though.

They still don't take open homosexuals, so hes SOL.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-15   12:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: longnose gar (#6)

Bush killed somebody? Did he shoot them, knife them or strangle them?

Bush wasn't the CIC? My mistake then.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-15   12:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: longnose gar (#0)

You are either on drugs,need to be on drugs,or are doing satire.

Please tell us which so we will know if we should be laughing or feeling sorry for you.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-08-15   12:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#12)

Give the name of the person Bush killed and how he did it and what proof you have. Did he stab somebody?

longnose gar  posted on  2009-08-15   12:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: longnose gar, anyone sane (#0)

If anyone wants to know why I think most conservatives are retards, and that their new sense of liberty is queerer than a three dollar bill, its beliefs like this.

I was at a family get together last night and my family is very conservative and I had to sit through an hour of hearing Glenn Beck talking points, and Sarah Palin worship. It had to walk away when I heard many agree they wish they still had Bush.

And they were talking about socialized healthcare. Who was it that campaigned on, and then implemented the largest socialization of healthcare in the last 40 years? George W Bush, and medicare part D. Fuck conservatives they are mostly retards.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-15   12:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: longnose gar (#0)

Do You Miss Bush Yet?

No, but I do miss Reagan.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-15   12:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rhino369 (#15)

Who was it that campaigned on, and then implemented the largest socialization of healthcare in the last 40 years?

The Clintons in the 1992 election.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-15   12:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: longnose gar (#14)

Give the name of the person Bush killed and how he did it and what proof you have. Did he stab somebody?

Since I don't worship politicians I will be content to give Bush total responsibility for the US dead in the wars he initiated up until his last day in office. Obama now gets credit.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-15   13:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rhino369 (#15)

You're confusing neocons and members of the liberal-wing of the Rs with conservatives. I guess Goldwater might have been the last conservative this nation has seen.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-15   13:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PaulCJ (#17)

Please operative word was "implemented " Clinton's health care plan died as stated before modern day conservatives are a bunch of loosers

robnoel  posted on  2009-08-15   13:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: PaulCJ (#17) (Edited)

The Clintons in the 1992 election.

Who was it that campaigned on, and then implemented

And also I don't believe Clinton ran on healthcare. They just tried to ram it through. But what do I know I was 7 years old in 1992.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-15   13:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PaulCJ (#17)

The Clintons in the 1992 election.

What was the Clinton socialized healthcare legislation that was "implemented", called, pray tell?

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-15   13:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

I miss Bush.

He was so easy to dislike, so easy to want to pound on, even to hang.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-08-15   13:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

You're confusing neocons and members of the liberal-wing of the Rs with conservatives. I guess Goldwater might have been the last conservative this nation has seen.

They outnumber you at least 10-1, they get to keep the name.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-15   13:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mininggold (#22)

What was the Clinton socialized healthcare legislation that was "implemented", called, pray tell?

Right now. Obamacare is the old Hillarycare rapped in a new name.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-15   13:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rhino369 (#24)

They outnumber you at least 10-1, they get to keep the name.

You are a liberal, and you are claiming to speak for conservatives.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-15   13:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: PaulCJ (#26)

You are a liberal, and you are claiming to speak for conservatives.

I don't consider myself a liberal, and I don't think any objective consideration of my beliefs would label me on either.

I'm not claiming to speak for conservatives, I'm grouping them. You by the way are the neocon/liberal kind he is speaking of.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-15   13:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: all (#0)

(article) Do You Miss Bush Yet?

Bush was 1000 times better than Obama
O's admin is bringing us fascism

but it seems to be our destiny to have Obama now
I do not yet know the reason, I guess we will discover it in hindsight
perhaps it is so liberals will have wake-up call

it is best Bush is out of the White House
the relentless Bush-hating was a drag
and I bet he is overjoyed to be private citizen now and have a life

I wish George Bush well
I believe as President he tried his hardest and did his best
he just made a lot of mistakes
the war on terror is huge mistake he made
not bringing the clinton criminality to law is another one
the bank bail-out was another big mistake

palo verde  posted on  2009-08-15   13:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: longnose gar (#6) (Edited)

Bush killed somebody?

Bush the "Texecutioner" has the honor of ordering more executions than any elected official since statistics were started in 1690. Between 1970(when the ban on the death penalty was lifted) and 2000, 1000 Americans were executed, nearly 154 by George W as governor of Texas. With his crafty attorney,Alberto Gonzales, preparing the (short)dossier on each candidate for death, Bush(with his limited attention span) was proud of his ability to decide on death in less than 4 minutes per case.

He did, however, pardon Henry Lee Lucas a man who bragged that he murdered nearly 400 people. Henry Lee,an avowed Satanist who partook in ritual murders and cannibalism.

octavia  posted on  2009-08-15   13:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rhino369 (#27)

I don't consider myself a liberal,

Your statements on this forum speaks for themselves.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-08-15   13:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rhino369 (#24)

They outnumber you at least 10-1, they get to keep the name.

Thievery can't be stopped, but it can be properly identified. Paleoconservatives were noninterventionists, neos are internationalists. If your family doesn't understand history, I'd advise you to limit your contact. They're infected and basically useless in the upcoming battle.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-15   13:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#31) (Edited)

Thievery can't be stopped, but it can be properly identified. Paleoconservatives were noninterventionists, neos are internationalists. If your family doesn't understand history, I'd advise you to limit your contact. They're infected and basically useless in the upcoming battle.

Words are understood by their commonly understood definitions. Most self described conservatives are the neocons you describe. Almost all non-conservatives call those people conservatives as well.

If use the world conservative everyone but a small tiny segment of goldwater types will assume you mean Bush style conservatives.

The number of paleoconservatives who aren't really necons, or are who aren't led by the nose by neocons is tiny. Look at the 2008 primaries, and 2008 election. Ron Paul, the paleocon, got a tiny fraction of the vote, and many of his voters weren't even paleocons but libertarians and liberals.

Goldwater conservatives is dead. Palin conservativism lives.

You can claim they stole the name, all you want, but nobody cares. Conservatism is a terrible name for an ideology. Get a new one.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-08-15   13:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: longnose gar (#0)


Beware!
This guy may be prowling 4um:

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Critter  posted on  2009-08-15   13:50:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Rhino369 (#32)

Look at the 2008 primaries, and 2008 election. Ron Paul, the paleocon, got a tiny fraction of the vote, and many of his voters weren't even paleocons but libertarians and liberals.

Liberals were tucked away in Paul's effort?

Can you point to some?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-15   13:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Rhino369 (#32) (Edited)

You can claim they stole the name, all you want, but nobody cares. Conservatism is a terrible name for an ideology.

I'm not anything, but by you not knowing basic political definitions, and how they've changed over the year, doen't help you in whatever it is you're trying to accomplish. Beck, Palin, Hannity aren't conservatives to anyone who has been around long enough to know the difference. You might try tell that to your family, but then again it's probably best you don't since you don't seem to have the temperament or desire to educate. Ridicule comes easier.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-08-15   14:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: octavia (#29)

He did, however, pardon Henry Lee Lucas a man who bragged that he murdered nearly 400 people. Henry Lee,an avowed Satanist who partook in ritual murders and cannibalism.

that would fit with bush's luciferianism.

christine  posted on  2009-08-15   14:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: longnose gar (#6)

Bush killed somebody? Did he shoot them, knife them or strangle them?

How many people like Saddam Hussein personally kill? None, retard. He gave orders to his bitches, just like Bush did. And Bush ordered a lot more killed than Hussein, which he why he should swing, too.

There's no place better thanTurtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-08-15   14:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: longnose gar, all (#0) (Edited)

Notice the paradigm being presented to us by operatives of the two-party fraud. We spend eight years watching the republicrats grow the size of government more than any time since the Great Society, not to mention setting up the infrastructure for an outright police state. Then, when people are so sick of the Bushite, the two party fraud presents us with a Democan who will be even worse than the previous Republicrat, knowing that history shows that the ruling party will lose the election to the minority party.

Now, the republicrats come out and start their revisionist history of the Bush administration and republicrat rule. The two-party fraud is setting things up so that Obama will piss everyone off so much that after eight years, the people will be ready to once again vote for a republicrat. It's a vicious cycle.

Do I miss Bush yet? Why should anyone miss Bush yet? Most of what Obama has done is nothing more than an expansion of what Bush started, to include healthcare. Can you say Medicare, part D? There is a reason why the republicrats aren't presenting an alternative to the Democan health care initiative. They are in cahoots with the democans.

It is the job of people like longnose gar to try and distract people from what is really going on by posting bushite like this article.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-08-15   14:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: PaulCJ (#25)

Right now. Obamacare is the old Hillarycare rapped in a new name.

Hillarycare was rap? lolol. Of course it is.... how do they think it was "put together" so quickly. And like the last ....they want to work out the details after it passes.

But why won't you admit that Bush passed the largest increase in socialized healthcare since Johnson and medicare. Scared???? If you practice blaming the pubbies too for their gallant efforts in taking us down the drain pretty soon you might become good at it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-08-15   14:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: longnose gar (#0)

Do You Miss Bush Yet?

$hit,,,,after 8 months of comdrade Obama, I miss Cheney.

"America without her freedoms, is like a body without a soul" - Adam Kokesh

Flintlock  posted on  2009-08-15   14:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: longnose gar (#0)

Do You Miss Bush Yet?

No, I get it on a regular basis.

All of a sudden dissent is no longer patriotic.

4 givan 1  posted on  2009-08-15   15:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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